What's better for breakfast bulking? Butter or avocado spread? I know both are high calorie.
>>76758295Avocado contains many more minerals and vitamins as well as fiber
>Caloriesworthless metric, look at macros and micronutrients, if you do that, you might notice that eating both, on different days, or at different ratios, might end up being better and good for you.This CICOtranny nonsense is why OP made this shitty thread, never trust CICOtrannies, always sage and hide CICOtranny threads.
avocado if you have the time to make it yourself, the prepackaged stuff is kinda slop. butter otherwise
>>76758535>timeit's 3mins in blender lil bro
>>76758295Both are fine
>>76758523You can gauge calories while caring about micro nutrients too retardIf we cant calculate calories then by your own logic micro nutrient profiling is scandalous as well
>>76758295Tried this today. Pork liver pate, its got alot of vitamin A.
>>76758544I don't need to ever gauge calories because it's a worthless metric.I don't understand this board sometimes, they can figure out how much weight they can lift without lifting too little or too much, but they find it extremely impossible to just try adding 10g of carbs to a day to see if anything changes.Could it be that they don't actually lift?>hurr durr durr durr 10g carbs? You could've just said 40 kcal!40 kcal doesn't tell me if you added fat or crabs, stupid DYEL skeleton.
>>76758578Are you that same guy that screams in CICO threads about not counting calories, but then counts macros by the gram which is functionally doing the exact same thing?
>>76758583>CICOtranny still doesn't understand that it's not functionally the same thingIn your own words, explain purpose of bulking and what makes you gain muscle mass and why fat growth is unavoidable, you have 10 minutes for this assignment, worthless DYEL.
>>76758593Oh shit, it is you! You fucking jackass.>purpose of bulking is to gain muscle mass. Gaining fat while bulking can be minimized by balancing macros appropriately.And hey, just to remind you, if you're counting macros by the gram you're already doing CICO. Just because you don't finish the equation doesn't mean:>4kcal / g protein>4kcal / g carbs>9kcal / g fatYou're effectively measuring temperature in Celsius and saying Fahrenheit isn't real, and you should be laughed at for it.
>CICOtranny didn't understand my questionOh well, we'll talk when you get off your fad diet and your brain resumes normal function.
>>76758535bro wants me to grow a fucking avocado tree
>>76758631>lil bro afraid of functional strength training in his backyard
>>76758625I answered your question accurately and properly. Your willful refusal to process words in a row on your screen that don't support your (absolutely fucking retarded) hypothesis does not make you a better anything.Imagine counting grams of macros and still saying nuh-uh to the most basic math anyone interested in fitness learns on day one.Don't bother replying, you got completely btfo and slunk off into the woods to cry the other day and I don't have the energy to do it again.
>>76758648Show me where in your previous post you explained what makes you gain muscle mass.By the way, it's okay if you just respond to admit that you don't know, and I can't blame you, DYEL skeleton.
>>76758651Here, I'll tell you what. Why don't you provide the answer you want to hear?
>>76758660I accept your concession, DYEL skeleton.Don't respond to me again with pseudoscientific bullshit if you can't even spend a weekend studying biology and learning the process that's vital for being physically fit and healthy.But hey, you're a little drooling mouthbreather retard who thinks that one made up unit is equivalent to tracking actual macros, so I cannot blame you for being filtered by a process that has over 10 points to consider, your brain is fried the moment you try to think of 3 macros instead of one pseudoscientific bullshit number, so it's okay, fine, do whatever you want, I don't care if you stay DYEL skeleton for the rest of your life, I told you everything you needed to know to get out of the cult you're in and only you can save yourself now, your choice and your loss if you make a wrong choice, not my problem.
>>76758669Explain to me the rationale and methodology of your macro tracking strategy.
>>76758295fruit
>>76758675Eating real food and not slop or some retarded fad diet is one of many reasons.Fiber is a good example, it provides 0 kcal, but CICOniggers never talk about it.
>>76758683Now who's not answering the question? You're up in >>76758578 saying to add 10g of carbs, which is exactly the same as saying add 40kcal of carbs. How does this slot into the rationale and methodology of your macro tracking strategy?
>>76758698>40kcal of carbs>of carbsso you're tracking macros, just in retarded pseudoscientific bullshit way and not proper mass way.You're the one using fagrenheits when celsius is superior, DYEL skeleton.
>>76758700Help me see the light. Tell me, how much do you weigh, how many grams of each macro are you shooting for each day, and is your goal to gain, maintain, or lose?
>>76758706My goal is to eat more than 0 kcal of fiber today, since I'm trying to make CICO work.
>>76758578You cant measure carbs either by your own logic, how do you feasibly separate the carbs in milk ? You can separate the fat from the water but how do you proceed for the rest
>>76758710idk bro, lets freeze dry it and burn it then pretend it doesn't matter because we measured energy release through temperature difference and now know made up units that work exactly the same in living organisms that break those nutrients down without fire.
>>76758707Well, that's not what I asked, but it's worth saying that if you're getting your carbs from healthy sources like fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, then fiber shouldn't be something you have to strive towards. If you need to focus on fiber for satiety, then something is fundamentally wrong with your diet.
>>76758723>If you choose fiber rich food you don't have to strive for fiberAdd a spoon of sugar to a glass of water, drink it, wait 15 mins and read your retarded post again you worthless nigger.
>>76758728So now you're talking about sugar water? I still want to know the rationale and methodology of your macro tracking strategy. You don't seem to actually have a plan other than "make sure to get enough fiber" so far. What's your fitness goal, really big shits?
>>76758752Yes, you're in critical condition where your brain clearly doesn't work, try reviving it with this method, if it genuinely doesn't work, you might just be too retarded to have a meaningful discussion with.
>>76758759I am, despite myself, attempting to get a coherent bit of rationale supporting your position out of you. You don't seem to have any.You could easily shut me up by explaining your rationale and methodology for your macro tracking strategy. Thus far I've got "fiber" so I'm forced to believe you live on metamucil alone.
>>76758763I don't need support or any defense, you're simply retarded if you think that I'm wrong.
>>76758809You don't have a support or defense. If you did, you'd post it instead of going on tangential rants. Therefore nothing you say on the topic of nutrition has any merit. CICO wins again.
>>76758824I'm not going to waste my time on this for the same reason I don't waste my time convincing flatearthers of anything.They are happy looking at feet and seeing flat ground, and same is with CICOtards.
>>76758828>CICO - well reasoned foundation for an effective diet that will support amy fitness goal, grounded in logic, real world science, and proven over and over again to be correct>this guy on /fit - actually seems to be following CICO but refuses to accept it and just goes on a merry-go-round of poorly constructed non-sequiturs when asked for anything resembling logicAnd you're calling CICO adherents flat-earthers? That's amazing.
>>76758842Who are you quoting
>>76758844>he doesn't know greentext isn't reserved solely for quotations
>>76758854Who are you quoting
>>76758866>I guess you're done now?Enjoy the metamucil.
>>76758295I cannot afford avocado.
