Bros I literally can't fucking quit alcohol. Are any alternatives like weed edibles in the form of beverages good?
have you tried not pouring it into your mouth you fucking retard lmao
>>76759366Weed is for lazy gay niggas, take mushroom tea.
Last weekend I was supposed to lift but instead was drunk instead so I guess so
>>76759366yesfpbp (fourth post best post)/thread
>>76759366As long as you don't drink too much too often and you're not drinking while lifting you should be fine. I've hit many PR's while hungover
>>76759366Only if you’re a low test weak twink
>>76759366Yes, it completely inhibits protein synthesis systemically. So each time you drink your muscles atrophy. Alcoholics lose virtually all their muscle mass over time.
>>76760895>Yes, it completely inhibits protein synthesis systemically. So each time you drink your muscles atrophy. Alcoholics lose virtually all their muscle mass over time.Checked thread to see if there were any lying AA teetotalers, sure enough.
>>76760909Okay buddy
>>76759461>niggasthis is a hard r board
beer is a satisfactory gain of carbs so anything in moderation, like shaving
>>76759366try a hallucinogenic like salvia, ibogaine, or datura, they often help people lose that ridiculous urge and reprogram their retarded brains.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R3pfsUgtL9A
>>76759366>Are any alternatives like weed edibles in the form of beverages good?If I include those I end up doing both
>>76759366You can try to limit use, at least.Like, don't drink in the 24h before and 24 or better 48h after training. It basically means, if you're training 3 or 4 times per week, you could drink once per week (and keep it light too, you have 1 day to flush your system), maybe 2 times if you're training 2/week (but that's weak as fuck).That's because alcohol WILL blunt the growth effect from the training, do you want to sweat in the gym, just to... NOT get the muscle growth effect? That's demoralising.Weed might be even worse, it's not well researched but it's very possible it fucks up muscle innervation. So you'll grow some muscle, but it will be of lower 'quality' (meaning, it won't be easy to get the full expected strength out of it). Which sucks too.That's why we have so many coffee and tea threads, that's all we can actually use.
>>76759366Just do amphetamines
>>76759366If im fiending i just like a few shots and one or 2 chaser drinks before lifting so im hungry
>>76759366If you're truly an alcoholic (like me) then sobriety is the only thing that works. Some people can get California sober and that's great but when I tried that I was back drinking within the week. It has a lot to do with abuse/atypical childhood so the brain doesn't develop coping mechanisms properly. I hear there's a genetic component as well although I'm not sure the science is settled on that.
>>76761258>That's because alcohol WILL blunt the growth effect from the trainingThey gave mice the equivalent of giving a 200lb man 4L vodka per day and it didn't do shit.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4393167/
alcohol only kills gains while your liver is digesting the shit, so unless you're drinking 24/7 or have cirrhosis, you'll be fine>>76761126>datura>>76761261>amphetaminesniggers, do you want OP to be devoured by the shadow people?
>>76761273as long as he can manage to eat properly its the healthier option
>>76761285>eat properly>on amphetaminesthat shit is harder than the workouts themselves kek
>>76761285t. shadow person
>>76759366Alcohol is terrible for you and ideally is completely avoided... but it's also fun and makes socializing easier. I barely drink now that I'm old and married, but it was a big part of my life (too big) for most of my 20s and early 30s so I get it. If you truly cannot stop drinking, the sinclair method can help. Look into naltrexone, an inexpensive generic that essentially blocks alcohol from feeling good for 24 hours. Willpower alone is best, but if you're struggling with an addiction then your focus is on beating it with any method available.
>>76761855>Look into naltrexone, an inexpensive generic that essentially blocks alcohol from feeling good for 24 hours.is that what they put in blue moon
>>76759366You gotta ween yourself off from it otherwise the withdrawl may take your life. Baby steps.
>>76761272>didn't do shit.wtf did you except it to do like mice could go to the gym you massive drunktard faggot
>>76761126Salvia's a good ideaAll the crazy >whoa man dont tip me overtrip reports are from guys taking huge bong rips. CHEW salvia bros. Start slow with a small pinch and dont be a retard. Thank me later
>>76759366I use 2-4mg of THC to quiet my demons If you do too much you just make other demons
>>76759457FpbpAlcohol legally can't enter your body without your consent
>>76761873corn syrup
>>76759461Niggers
>>76761266What happened in your childhood?
>>76759366Nah alcohol doesnt really fuck you up if you limit how much youre getting drunk and when and if you have a functioning liver.The drunker you get the worse it impacts your health exponentially, dont take ibuprofen in pain pills or with steroids it kills yoir liver.
>>76759366Read pic related OP. I read the one for smoking and it made me quit instantly and I never craved a smoke since. No scare tactics or shaming involved. That was 3 months ago.I read the one for alcohol but that was a few days ago so can't say for sure if it works yet (the other one 100% did). In any case, it's just a book, so it's worth a shot.>>76759457That's not how addiction works, nobody decides to be an addict>t. recovering alcoholic>does it kill gains?In every conceivable way. Missed workouts because of hangovers, shitty nutrition because drunk, and it directly stops the muscle building process at the biochemical level.I became a fatass because of alcohol. As of last year, I crunched the numbers, and it was responsible for AT LEAST 15 kilos of bodyweight (!).
>>76762266>Missed workouts because of hangovers, shitty nutrition because drunk>gets blackout drunk>passes out without eating pizzas>wakes up at 2am, eats healthy tacos>goes to gym at 2pm slightly hung over>it directly stops the muscle building process at the biochemical level.Whatever lies you need to tell yourself to go cold turkey are fine, but keep to self.
>>76759366I drink daylight until dark and have been making fast gains. Just drink lots of water and get your daily protein. If anything alcohol is good for gains. Right when the buzz hits the music gets me ultra pumped and going to failure is super satisfying.
>>76762385if you're getting hungover and raping your sleep schedule then you're not going as hard as you could in the gym or at life in general.>it directly stops the muscle building process at the biochemical level.this is a fact and just repeating it doesn't invalidate itdruggy cope + post body
Rob gronkowski would go out drinking the entire night before practice. Go to the stadium, get an Iv to get his fluids back, and then go dominate in the morning.Personally my entire high school track team drank like fish and we were perfectly fine. I literally never go hung over. Now that I’m not running a jv 5:30 mile and I’m older I have to seriously watch my alcohol consumption. Even a few beers can throw me off. So basically like with anything health related if you are near your athletic potential you can do basically anything including heavy drinking.
Wade Boggs: The American baseball player claims he once consumed 73 beers on a flight from Boston to Los Angeles before a gameDon’t fucking drink if you are an out of shape fat loser who runs a 9 minute mile. If you are basically a pro athlete and have friends that like to party drink like a fish it’s probably good for you.
When I was younger I'd work out through hang overs or moderately drunk if I had to, replace carbs for booze, damage control with cardio and high protein low calorie meals and make a shit ton of progress through alcoholism.It's different now, tho. Hangovers last for two days and are debilitating. Performance drunk sucks and I'm not able to do the things I have to do if I'm skipping carbs cause I drank last night nor have time to add an extra hour of cardio to make up for half a six pack.You can definitely make gains through an alcohol addiction when you're young and tough but as you get older it takes so much willpower and strength you might as well just drink less.
>>76759366Early to mid 20s ur fine, as long as it fits macros
>>76762512>>it directly stops the muscle building process at the biochemical level.>this is a fact and just repeating it doesn't invalidate itIt's not a fact. Alcohol kills anything in vitro at 95% concentration. It doesn't kiil shit sub 1%, and doesn't stop muscle synthesis either. Teetotaler propaganda is full of lies.
