What is the official /fit/ verdict on Lyle McDonald?
>>76764164He is dogmatic and is often a prick, that said I think most of what he has to say is correct and he gives good advice.
>>76764164>chink swordslol who's this dweeb?
>>76764164Why does his first name rhyme with DYEL?
>>76764164He's a mentally ill, histrionic jew (or something similiar) but he's right about basically everything. There's a reason why Mike Israetel and all of the other "science based" faggots seethe over Lyle eternally. Solomon partnering up with him and putting out content was a very good move.
>>76764164If he’s so smart why he’s so dyel?
He talks to a very specific groups. If you are part of those groups you should listen to him completely. He is a smart dude. If you are 99.5% of /fit/ you should ignore him. If you are the 0.5% congrats on meeting your body weight goals while ignoring aesthetics and selecting a sports that is mostly unemployable and the general public doesn't give a shit about.
>>76764164He's less wrong than anyone else at current when it comes to training natties.What makes him annoying is that he offers a lot of things that work well in isolation but a lot of them don't work well in conjunction and you really have to get an ear full to know which and why. He desperately needs someone to edit down his stuff into an app or some kind of decision tree that spits out coherent routines if he wants to get back his ranking. Because the sooner people can get up and rolling with this stuff the sooner they'll see results with it and the less they'll be hanging on every indecisive word of the "science-based" lifting advocates that clearly aren't offering the same quality of insight.
>>76764336Agreed. I think the particular way that he's mentally ill is actually what makes him so obsessed about figuring out the correct information for fitness.
>>76764164He’s ONLY shit on Diet Advice.This dude would get ragdolled by Barry Sears just like how Sears Zone Diet aka 40/30/30 Diet ragdolled all of the Fad Diet Creators.Ketogenic Diet is so cringe.Plus, he’s ironically dyel and wrong about ACTUAL High Volume Training like German Volume Training or Ultra Super German Volume Training.
>>76764359He's right about it since it's equated with the effective reps model. With GVT you use a weight that's like 60% of orm (20rep max) your first set is literally 10 reps in reserve and as the set progress with short rest times the RIR decays. So the first 4-5 or so sets are mostly warmup. Being that reps within 5 of failure are the ones that elicit the strongest hypertrophy response it still winds up being around 3-4 to failure sets worth in the end. This isn't going to do anything above and beyond conventional training unless you're a wuss who never approaches normally.
>>76764164Alot of what he says makes sense
he won
>>76764164never lifted in his life, never trained anyone. everything he knows comes from reading online articles on his computer. completely worthless.
>>76764347>>76765040CORRECT. renaissance periodization is the ONLY true /fit/ resource. jared feather is proof of this he is IFBB pro with a physique that will get drooled over on CBT while mike has coached many pros and helped THOUSANDS via the goated RP Strength app.
>>76764164Good on nutrition, 50-50 on training.
>>76764336He's iranian which are not technically semites (arabs jews and some other minorities) but spent millennias exchanging with semites and influencing each other that they might as well be considered semites, hence why he comes accross as a schizo jew
So where do I start with this guy
>>76765078Mcdonald isn't a very iranian name.
>>76765100True, it's unfeasible to change your name and last name.
>>76765085dont waste your time and start here:https://rpstrength.com/
>>76765101>those are a 50 year old man postsJesus...
>>76765164Please understand, that he never really got over all the people saying what ended up being essentially the same as what he was saying the whole time, ended up making millions of dollars and he didn't.
>>76765101lyle is my favourite bipolar individual
>>76765085i would just watch his videos with solomon nelson
>>76765247I just find it somewhat weird and somewhat funny that a 50 year old would be shitposting like your average teeanger edgelord. This would have been unthinkable fourty years ago. Ellicits more a reflexion on current society than on McDinald's character per se.BTW, Lyle is correct about 90% of the time.
>>76765273Reflection.I don't think it's weird or even out of charater. There's always been a kind of caustic subculture on the internet and even before the internet. Nerds were mean as shit in 70-90s. This kind of victim class blameless nerd stereotype is almost entirely manufactured by media (which was likely written by nerds who wrote themselves that way)
>>76765273He's mentioned that he was on usenet in the early 90s. So he's always been here. Different from boomers who use facebook.
>>76765247maybe if he had actually lifted people would be more willing to listen to him. but yeah it's an utter travesty of justice that a supposed fitness authority who doesn't even lift doesn't receive much attention or recognition.
>>76765273Lyle is right 90% of the time, but the problem is that so are most of the people he criticizes are also, and in debates/discussions he admits that they'll agree on more than they'll disagree on. The issues is that he holds others to a standard he doesn't hold himself to - or rather, that he presumes himself to be the only one who understands nuance when all that's really happening is he's reading everything everybody else does through an intentionally unnuanced lens.When Lyle is misunderstood or says something out of turn, oh well that's just because he's generalizing, he would change things up or do different things if coaching irl, or for himself, etc. But then if he watches a random slop video he thinks he knows everything about how that person would coach without any room for nuance.Oh, also Lyle's constant harping that he's the only one who knows what training to muscular failure is really like is really embarrassing.
>>76765344That's because training has been figured out 6 decades ago and everyone will tell you basic shit then sprinkle it with their own dogma to sell it as the holy grail
>>76765344He's actually went over that a few times. He's mentioned how's he had adapt what he was coaching to just accommodate Sumi kind of natrual propensities and weaknesses.
>>76765350This is exactly why I don't understand why lyle spergs out so much about it though.I would say he could have been really successful just by playing the 'a lot of training you see is only good for people on gear - here's how to optimally train naturally' angle.But realistically, the fitness entertainment sphere is so fucked with people's perception of who's on gear and what it results in that he would need a guy twice as jacked as solomon pretending he was natty to be the face of the channel. People can only get fitness followings if they're roided to the gills.
He's one of the only people in fitness who truly know what they're talking about and can provide actual useful advice. He really shows how utterly retarded the other grifters in the subject area are.
>>76764164Utterly based and usually correctAlso has an athletic background (BMX and inline skating I think?)>>76764233>dogmaticIs he though? He wrote a book on keto but doesn't advocate ketoism, just says "here's how you can use it to cut" for exampleObviously he's strongly opinionated>>76764347Huh? Are you talking about powerlifting? He literally tells the general public to use machines and not squat or deadlift because they're more investment for less gains. He does coach powerlifters but he'll coach anybody really>>76764336>Solomon partnering up with him and putting out content was a very good move.This, Solomon is obviously using him to build his own counter brand, but it is perfect for Lyle to have a long form space to rant, with Solomon asking good questions>>76765085His site is bodyrecomposition.com, he has lots of articles but they're hard to search on the site so use google. Can start with his training to failure series to see him shit talking israetel, or his beginning weight training series to see his discussion on beginner training
>>76765101If israetel wasn't such a faggot Lyle would be a quality lolcow
>>76765399How come him and solomon didn't call out greg on the podcast they did when greg went on his turk sales pitch, about how their debunking all of brad's studies means that the studies showing turk doesn't do anything are also debunked?For the 2 autistic 'call it like they see it' guys, they didn't seem like they wanted to call it like they see it then? Almost like the agenda is 'hate mike israetel' rather than actually the straight shooting facts image they want to cultivate?
>>76765418Shitness is politics at this point, if you watch these people for advanced esoteric information you're a moronthere's no reason to call out greg when greg can always pick the more lucrative lukewarm side of jewratel instead of associating with a persian schizo and his buttbuddy
>>76765350>That's because training has been figured out 6 decades agoI used to consume tons of fitness content looking for the perfect training programs and principles to base my training of. I stopped when I realized that for about five years I hadn't watched nor read anything that influenced my way of training. Everything just confirmed what I knew or was just bullshit.Nowadays, in the rare ocassion that I watch fitness content is mostly for entertainment purposes, like putting a video on the background while I'm cooking or doing chores.Basically every fitness guru out there is reciclying shit over and over or involved in internet drama.
>>76764164He's a faggot. I have no interest in anyone whose main focus is starting shit with other people instead of promoting their own thing. He looks like he's never lifted in his life so any advice he has is more useless to me than even the gayest science-based prick. I've literally never watched a single vid or heard a single word he's said.
>>76765101>I'll scratch off the dot to see what I fucking wonLYLE DO NOT REDEEM
>>76765101He hates Indians just like me.BASED
has anyone had experience or thoughts on his RFL (rapid fat loss) method? literally just eat protein and as few carbs and fats as possible, so basically just chicken breast or white fish with some vegetables for stomach filling volume.
>>76764164based and right on almost everything
>>76765672it just works for everyone mentally willing to do itbut if you're really advanced/ a competitor then do UD2
>>76765672Done it a few times it works but it's brutal i doubt most could adhere to it longer than a few days
>>76765752how long did you do it for? I was thinking about trying it for a week or two on my cut. I'm highly motivated by fast progress.
>>76765761Two weeks on two weeks off. But the most sustainable pace for me was around the interval I'd get groceries at 5 on 5 off.
>>76765413>Are you talking about powerlifting?I have ignored all his bodybuilding stuff just because it seems like carry on with feud with Mike Istaetel. If I wanted youtube drama I'll watch some braindead titty monster. I am talking about things like training skaters, wrestlers and other olympic types. He can't seem to get out of the mindset. What he says is accurate if you are already athletic, have insane amounts of control and most importantly your goal is lean strength. He obviously changes his tune when it comes to body building, I suspect it is more of the same expectations that couldn't be met by somebody who isn't employed through sport.
>>76765040He trained the olympic skating team and has spent 20 years training private clients
>>76764164Yet another internet jew who's peddling his bs. They're all the same, just pick whichever you vibe with the most and have fun.
>>76764164Never heard of her before /fit/ started mass shilling, plus he looks like a Jew you cannot trust. My verdict is stop being obsessed with some random internet personas.
>>76765672I've been doing it for almost 3 weeks now1 refeed a weekI'm a little bit more lenient with fats, but it's still mostly trace amounts (a few grams of butter for frying, 2-3 walnuts sometimes, maybe a bite of dark chocolate), carbs come mostly from vegetables and probably wheyit's not as hardcore as it sounds, you can function perfectly alright once you get used to itfat loss has been fairly noticeable, I lost around 4-5kg, a lot of it being water/glycogen though, but it definitely works and doesn't waste your timethe mental aspect of knowing you can't eat anything fatty or starchy is the worst, but you can make a few tricks and tweaks to make it more bearable (like turning your whey into a jello pudding, eating soups with gelatin, abusing MSG, artificial sweeteners and so on)
RFLD is the GOAT cutting routine, though he is updating it after people gave feedback.Other than that, I have no opinions on him.
