Is there even a point in bulking as a natty?Why the heck did I listen to /fit/?
>>76767173Fucking jej, imagine working your ass of to reverse the before/after pictures.
Did your numbers go up?
>>76767182it was a torture to get that lean>>76767197barely
>>76767199All you had to do is walk around every day and do a bit of cardio, cutting is so fucking easy, and so is staying lean.
>>76767173Height/weight for both before and after.How many calories did you eat before and how much did you eat during bulk?
>>76767214it's def not that easy to stay 10-12% bf for a long period of time>>767672175'6 130lbs before pic now i'm like 150lbs, I was eating 1500cals on the before and now I'm up to 2000/day, bulking ain't worth it.
>>76767199Sounds like you had bad macros Post stats and lifts
>>76767227You’re supposed to lift when you bulk so you build muscle and not just get fat.Im not trying to be funny, the surplus makes you feel stronger and your numbers shouldve exploded.Yes there’s zero reason to bulk if you arent going to try to push more weights.
>>76767173sexy daddy
>>76767227Bruv you just fucked up your bulk. 10kg in 2 months is way more, of course you gained a shitload of fat. Gaining 10kg in a year is already a lot at your size.Cut back down and gain no more than 1kg a month ignore the 1-2 kg of water weight you get from bulking/cutting.
>>76767258*way too fast
>>76767173because you fucked up by not doing the training part right. usually shoulders and upper pecs are covered in fat when ur bulking so that's ok, but ur arms are so fucking weak. spam ur arms until you have 18" at least that goes with ur dull torso.
>>76767173i hope you can afford ozempic / mounjaroenjoy cutting :)
>>76767173Nigga just eat healthier, salad chicken rice etc and lift more for back into fit. People do this every year.
>>76767240>>76767258>>76767266I was pushing the weights aggressively and lifting hard 5-6x a week, ez bar preacher curl went from 34kg to 40s and bench 70kg to 85-90 for 2 reps but I feel like my physique got worse
>>76767173see you in /fat/
>>76767278track calories and eat a 200 cal surplus not a big one
>>76767227>130lbs before pic now i'm like 150lbsSo you decided to gain 20lbs in 2 months and were surprised when you gained almost all fat? Did you think gaining 10lbs of muscle a month is normal?
>>76767278how not how much you lift. if you wanna learn something, study it and come up with a plan. learn how to isolate the body part you wanna grow and then you can add compound for some weight. once you are done training your triceps, you should not be able to straighten your elbow and vice versa for ur bi's.. i'm about to head out to gym myself and it's already depressing i will have to see 90% of the male population there hitting their arms but don't even know how to lift properly.
>>76767427kek
>>76767227If you gained 20 lbs in two months by eating at 2000 calories somethings wrong.How did you get to such a low body weight?If it was through extreme dieting you may have fucked up your metabolism.
>>76767173>bulks>wait a minute I didn't want to bulk
>>76767173okay so just cut and hopefully you put on muscle getting down on yourself is woman behavior, you more than likely put on muscle so just cut and youll see you put on like 5 pounds of muscle like what is this thread also you are dyel as fuck embarrassingly so
>>76767227>130lbs before pic>130lbsFucking lmao
>>76767199what ? you're not even that lean on the first pic, maybe your diet was shitty
>>76767173>Is there even a point in bulking as a natty?No. It's never worth it because losing weight is very hard and gaining weight is very easy.>Why the heck did I listen to /fit/?Because you're a retard who believes what he reads online.
all Im going to do is get lean, then eat a bit of ground beef, a potato or some protein shake/oatmeal before bed after lifting. everything else has to still be clean and inside your regular macros.
>>76767278That's good, you might have gained 1 kg, maybe 2 of muscle in 2 months which us great, but that's still for 8-9kg of fat. You want to get a ratio of muscle to fat of about 50% on your bulks. You would never have gained 5kg of muscle in 2 months, that's around 100g of muscle gained per workout. You're not putting a quarter pounder worth of muscle on your body per workout even on steroids.Cut down the excess fat you gained, and bulk maybe 1kg per month.t. 6'2" 98kg at 18@bf, started at 65kg 5 years ago. It takes time and if you rush the process you get fat
>>76767227>5'6 Jesus Christ
>>76767227> 5'6 Listen pipsqueak, if I EVER see you scittering around my gym I'm finding a foam roller and pushing it towards you Prometheus style. If you try to hide in those squat cage holes I'll get a fumigator.
>>76767278>bench 70kg to 85-90 for 2 repsThat's good progress for 2 months bro the other anons are right in that it was just a short timeframe and the surplus was probably too big Still mirin tho
>>76767173
>>76768144>t. 6'2" 98kg at 18@bf, started at 65kg 5 years ago. It takes time and if you rush the process you get fatYou take steroids. Not possible to gain 30kg of muscles, even if you train 5 years.
>>76768464I'm 6' and went from 110lbs to 170 shredded in 6 years. The guy you're replying to is likely to underestimate his bf% a bit but it's not unbelievable.
>>76768468You started with anorexic weight but still don't believe your story.
>>76767173fucking kek.why did you look at yourself on the left and decided you should really bulk up?
>>76768472So you believe the fact I started anorexic but not the fact i'm currently big and lean? I can easely prove the latter.
>>76767173Looks like you fucked that bulk up real bad, son
>>76767173>Is there even a point in bulking as a natty?This is the funniest thing about it. Professionals will bulk and cut to squeeze out an extra pound of muscle in a year, but that's because they have the discipline, time, and gear to do so. Natties don't have any of that shit, so they just get fat and the muscle gains are nominal, if at all.
>>76768478>I can easely prove the latter.Yet you've yet to do so. Interesting.
>>76768580I wasn't asked to post body. Also I have no pictures of my past skinny self so I can hardly prove the 110lbs claim, feelsbadman I could have had a pretty cool before/after...
>>76768464I'm natty and I don't think I'm underestimating my bf, not by much at least (still have blurry abs). I also didn't gain 30kg of muscle, I gained 30kg of weight. I started underweight with very low bf at around 10-12% (so about 58kg lean mass). 98kg at even say 20% bf is about 78kg of lean mass. If you don't think a 6'2" guy can gain 20kg of lean body mass in 5-6 years, you're ngmi.
>>76767173why don't you guys listen to greg?greg says don't bulk, maintain
I'm hunked up as well, anon... I guess it's time to cut it up, you guys blackpilled me, i actually thought to continue eating into january
>>76767173Yeah, conventional bulking doesn't make sense for a trained natty. Gaining more than 0.5kg a month would probably already be a gamble IMO, since the muscular gains are super slow after a certain individual threshold. The only way to progress past intermediate levels w/o bloatmaxxing is to patiently grind your routine at whatever level of volume/intensity fits you best and can be maintained over time, while keeping the weight gain very slow. Bulking hard is dumb and maingaining is usually a waste of time, but so is cutting if you get too fat. Best to maintain stable hypertrophy with minimal fat gain over the longest possible time.
>>76767173Just cut dude, not that hard.>>76767227>5'6 130lbs before pic now i'm like 150lbs, I was eating 1500cals on the before and now I'm up to 2000/day, bulking ain't worth it.Fucking how? I'm the same height and I had to eat 3000 kcal a day to actually bulk up from 144 lbs to 160 lbs and that took me 3 months. Went from 14% to 20% BF.
omg you're supposed to gain 1kg a month, not five
>>76769942Nta, but some people have unironically shit metabolism. I'm 6'2, I'm a tradecuck, I walk a lot, I work out 2-3 times a week, I squat 4plates atg for reps. My maintenance is only 1800 cal, I lose weight at like 1500, I start gaining fat at around 2100. It just sucks.
>>76769877youre a twink bitch eat more
looks better in the after to womenlooks better in the before to menpick which physique you want wisely, gayboy
>>76767173girls like the right pic morethe more you know
