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>Where do I start?
https://old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index

>additional info, experiences, advice, Q&A etc.
anabolicminds.com/community
professionalmuscle.com/forums
evolutionary.org/forums
thinksteroids.com/community
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>>76776985
roidtrannies are the biggest copers in the gym
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Want to try HGH next cut, where do I read more about it so I do it right and don't fuck anything up?
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>>76776991
Forums
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>>76776991
https://old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/growth_hormone
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>>76776991
It's hard to go wrong with HGH honestly
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rate
his
stack.
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I am down to my last three vials of Test-U, I've been running that since it was cheap and available, I basically blast 500 and 250 every other week which has been smooth for me based on steroid planner.

I've got my weight under control and I am entering Normal BMI.

I'm thinking of moving to Test-C on week 2 and adding Clenbuterol-37mcg, Liothyronine-25mcg, Yohimbine-5.4mg.

Any problems with that? Or should I just toss the test u vials.

Thanks in advance
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>>76776991
My sweet spot is 3iu ed. GH is amazing.
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>>76777312
All that to not fill a M tshirt
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>>76777326
>blast every other week
what
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>>76777556
500mg week 1
Week 2 none
250 week 3
Week 4 none

It was recommended with test u by my doc to help with lows after my surgery (orchiectomy)
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>>76777597
just pin once a week man, your doc is retarded
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Is cjc-1295 a meme? I don't want to hop on hgh just yet and would rather get a small boost for things like sleep, better recovery etc so was thinking of trying cjc-1295 non dac before bedtime
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>>76777604
Sure. I was doing once a week but, since it was test-u, I kept getting higher T tests, so I used ateroid planner and ran it by the doc.

Anyways. I feel good now, this the questions I have regarding moving to test-c
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>>76776991
chatgpt
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>>76777624
Anything that isn't HGH that tries to mimic it is going to be at best 25% as good.
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thought about ripping some tbol as my first roid to help with cutting + endurance gains for a triathlon in 16 weeks, thoughts on timing and cycle?
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>>76776985
So I'm a 24 AMAB whose going through a massive gender crisis right now. For the record nothing major has been a sign for anything, the closest being mtf transformation fetish and a stereotypical princess dress I wore for weeks earlier this year. But that's off topic. Lately I've been in a trans discord chat and love the people there and feel included for the first time in my life... the issue is my own identity. They've given me the Button question and my thinking is "no, I would want that safety net in case I don't like it" I guess my question is, is that a sound line of thinking? And if so what repercussions is there from HRT good bad and ugly? Currently I'm not doing anything transition wise but my mind is a mess, far more than usual and I need assistance to help the issue. My brother is telling me to start taking steroid to fix my issues but i feel hrt would be better and more accepted
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>>76777855
That's good enough for me, I'd like to give CJC-1295 a try

Any side effects I need to be worried about?
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>>76778344
dawg you need to speak to a therapist that's well versed in what you're dealing with, not hormones. hormones arent magic. they dont fix your head, make you beautiful, or plan your whole life for you. i don't know where people get that notion from, but it's 100% wrong. i tell everyone the same thing.... if you're even the slightest bit unsure about it (not to be confused with being nervous about massive changes to your body), then don't take hormones. having said that, there are lots of anecdotes from guys about what you're thinking, or people being gay/bi/ace/whatever, then all that being totally undone when they started testosterone. so, no drugs now, get hormone blood tests done (maybe testosterone, estradiol, prolactin, shbg), see if something is off, and find a therapist. if you can't afford a therapist, you cant afford hormones, so dont bitch about it
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>>76778344
You're past the age where HRT will meaningfully make you look like a girl.
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>>76777326
So do I toss my test-u and move to test-c or can I mix? GPT says it's ok.
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>>76778344
Wtf is "The Button" question?
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I'm 33, got my bloodwork done and total test is 665, free test is 124 pg/ml, everything else in ideal/optimal ranges.

I've been lifting casually since I was like 16, but about 3 months ago I sold my company and I am more or less "retired" now, with lifting as my core focus/goal. Since I don't work I've been able to keep my stress levels pretty low and recovery has been good. I am probably intermediate level in terms of strength, though I don't look like I lift - I'm mostly average looking with some muscle definition (quads, shoulders, back, abs). I do a PPLPPLx routine, happy to share if it is of interest.

At what point should I actually consider taking test? I can easily get it through my doctor, but I don't want to introduce any complications given I am still making progress naturally. Should I look to strength milestones, aesthetic milestones? My diet is pretty good, but I'm sure I can clean it up a bit further, I just feel I've done the "80%" already so further refinement would be very small incremental progress - though maybe should still be done. I'm skeptical I need to lock in 100% before ever doing a cycle. That being said, at 33, I still have some time but not a lot, so I'd like to make progress sooner rather than later.

QTDDTOT hasn't provided useful feedback so just wanted to get some additional input.
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how harsh is anadrol on hair compared to other orals?
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>>76778861

The button test is a mind experiment that has helped many transgender people transition. I dive into a little bit of deep trans lore to help you explore how people come to terms with their gender.
>>One day, you are given a button to press. With that button comes a set of rules and instructions. You can press this button only one single time. If you press it, you will become physically female. All of your family and friends will have always remembered you this way and you will have no social impacts to your life for making this decision. Once you press the button, it will disappear forever. Do you press the button?
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>>76779112
i would
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If I were to add low dose (100-150 mg) tren on top of 200 test, would p5p and nac be enough to protect my health from it or would I need other supplements?
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>>76779239
>protect my health from it
From what?
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>>76779248
Well those are for liver and high prolactin.
What else could get fucked from tren?
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Did anyone go to dermatologist to treat steroids acne? Did it work?
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>>76778344
this is bait
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>>76778436

I too enjoy things that are 75% worse than comparable products for the same price.
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>>76778344

Didn't read but stop being such a faggot. Your ancestors are not amused by your antics.
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>>76778973

The answer is always now. Do it now.
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>>76779112
If I kept my strength and all women who I'm interested in turned gay, honestly probably if there was some guarantee I would be an attractive one
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how do u guys inject so quickly i use 23g and i might just be a pussy but yeesh doing my outer thigh takes a bit ti slowly go in
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>>76778344
detroon that was posting here a few months ago, don't do it desu
if you are going to do it, get jacked on roids before you think about hrt, see how it affects your confidence and composure of your body
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>>76779906
this. i was in the same spot, started 750 test, and put on 30lbs in six months. Pct'd for surgery, and am now on test+tren. before my first blast, i dieted down to 178lbs, and managed to fit in to size 31 jeans. now i'm 211, and could probably do size 30. also i'm finally starting to not look dyel. gettin mires is fun, and i show off when i'm with the wife 'cause she likes makin bitches jealous. plus it's motivated her to get in better shape, and she's shot right past fitting into clothes she hasn't been able to even think about in many years, straight to needing to go shop for a whole new wardrobe
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>>76780017
try warming the vials before you draw
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>working as hard as a profesional athlete for a chance someone may find you more attractive is cool on /fit/
>wanting to not work that hard but still be more attractive so you shoot up roids is also cool on /fit/
>doing just enough exercise to be healthy and happy is absolutely not cool on /fit/
honestly you're all kinda just fuckin' stupid.
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>>76780304
no i mean piercing my skin and going into the muscle is harsh if i dont go slow i always jerk or tense randomly
takes 30m just to get to the injection point
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>>76777326
What sort of retarded shit
I swear you fucking chuds will do anything not to just do a normal blast jfc
Kys(faster)
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I’m cruising on about 180mg per week and did a test today, levels were about twice the top of normal range

Can I have plastic surgery at this level? Any reason why not?
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>>76779732
dermatologist will tell you to come off the roids or give you Accutane. Here I saved you hundreds of shekels , you're welcome nigger.
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>>76780538
Yea well that ain't happening my balls don't produce enough test on their own so I need at least TRT.
Should I try and flip it with accutane?
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>>76780317
ah gotcha. youll get used to it. 23g is pretty big too. 27g is plenty. i use 31g slin myself, for drawing and pinning
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>>76776985
Can girls really not stand to be alone for 3 hours a couple of times a week? Get a hobby or something, jesus.
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>>76780559
which ones you use? i been using some 23g 1.5" IM dog syringes but if what you use works i may as well swap
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getting back on TRT for a couple months. I have some anavar laying around, should I throw it in or wait until a blast?
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>>76780626
Draw with a 23 inject with a 27.
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If I start taking tren how long will it take for me to die?
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>>76780770
Two weeks
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>>76779893
>same price

Are you high

CJC1295 is like 20 dollars a vial where are you gonna get hgh that cheap

Bro is roidbrained
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Can you inject veterinary chorionic gonadotropin?
They sell it for animal use, but I literally can't find any difference between this veterinary gonadotropin and HCG
It looks like it's quite essentially the same hormone
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>>76781023
Okay, there's also this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equine_chorionic_gonadotropin
Some veterinary gonadotropins have "gonadotropinum chorionicum" mixed with this horse shit

Continuing the research
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>>76781039
But then here's an example of chink gonadotropin for pigs which is just HCG
https://www.nshf.com/products/dqs.html
(You can't order there, they only sell in bulk)

So there are different kinds of veterinary gonadotropin solutions and mixes, but there are just HCG vials for animals too
So there's that
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>>76777701
Just pin 125mg once a week
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test
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>>76780374
>lay off the 19 nors you gatekeeping faggot.

Reminder:

>a dbol only cycle is fine, golden era athletes didn't have test or tren, or pct, and they're bigger than everyone in this thread
>bloodwork is for redditors, just listen to your body
>1-2 cycles a year is fine so long as you pct right and have a life outside the gym. You are not a professional athlete, and you're not serious about this. If you were you would be doing instagram shoots, racking up followers and chasing sponsorships.
>the nigger who is calling you retarded for asking for advice on steroids in a thread about steroids is a bnc nigger whose life revolves around gear
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Cialis (tadalafil) for lifting?
Found a very sweet offer and ordered 100 tabs
I don't have dick issues, but I tried it before and it's a funny drug
Tried it for lifting before but I didn't really notice any effects during workouts
What about you?
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let's say im 82kg at 13-15% bodyfat and my goal is to get to 82kg at 10% bodyfat, whats the quickest/optimal way of getting there with minimal side effects? i have tried ligandrol before, had great results during the cycle but lost a lot of water weight after it, currently on week 4 of 40mg anavar+5mg lgd and feels a bit underwhelming, barely different from lgd alone cycle.
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>>76781157
i tried cialis to fix dick issues that appeared in the later part of my sarm cycle and i didnt notice any effects on lifts or endurance either. strangest thing it did was sharply improve my mood though. i would low dose it for the mood alone but it's expensive where i live for some reason.
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anyone used enclomiphene instead of clomid before (or just in general i guess)?
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>>76781153
You will die from stage 4 cystic acne
I'm sorry but this is how all roidtrannies end up
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>>76781166
Drop faggot sarms, you're just wasting your time
Just start pinning T
>ooohhh needles scary
Trannies can pin and you can't?
You either pin or stay natty
Sarms are nothing
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>>76779017
All steroids safe for testogel are unsafe for your hair.
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>>76781224
what if i dont want to take PEDs my entire life, can i pin for a cycle and then do a PCT to recover to my baseline test?
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>>76781302
Yes
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>>76780561
Women need to be peed on constantly or else they dry up.
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>>76780626
the largest i've used was a 25g 1.5 inch 3ml, and i'd pin vg. i was also pinning 2.7ml though. now i pin daily, and the 31g 5/8 inch 1ml insulin pins are plenty. i order from adwdiabetes, but i think some states require a prescription for diabetes supplies
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>>76780956
tranny is back with 36iu kit for 150, sooooo that's less
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>>76779818
i never read anyhting about the button option, anon must be deep in the trans rabbit hole
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>>76781023
They have different sequences so there is no guarantee that a CG from a different specie will have affinity for the FSH receptor on your balls.
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>>76781798
Also here's test P for sheeps which is just test P
https://www.nshf.com/en/products/bingsuan.html
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>>76781965
Yeah small molecule hormones like testosterone are pretty well conserved across mammals even if their receptors (which are proteins) differ in sequence somewhat; the signalling pathways remain conserved

On the other hand HCG is a protein hormone made up of 237 amino acids, with a molecular weight of ~37,000 Da, which is more than 100x the mass of a testosterone molecule (about 300 Da). Because HCG is a protein, it has a bespoke sequence of amino acids, which in simple terms determines its structure and interactions with the receptor. In different animals, this sequence will be different, which is why equine CG might not work on you (or it might, or it might have different functions like it could hit your thyroid or adrenals more for instance).

Having said that, because equine CG is a foreign protein, your body will recognise it as an antigen and build antibodies against it, which will block its functioning, so it's also possible that equine CG will have zero effect on you (and potentially a blood clot risk)
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>>76782042
I already addressed that
Horse cg is somehow different
But for pigs they apparently use your normal hcg
Also I wouldn't believe pajeet google ai because it has given me different answers to the same question worded differently
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>>76781153
The TRUTHNUKE that BTFO'd the gatekeeping roidtrannies.
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>>76782085
Pigs don't have the equivalent of hcg because they're too evolutionarily distant from us, however hcg happens to activate their LH receptor just fine so that's why it's given to pigs

>manmade horrors beyond comprehension
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>>76777312
if your stack is longer than your bodycount you're fucking it up real bad, man.
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Can someone teach me how to dose and inject test?
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>>76782418
start with these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbH4dioF3k0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9t5aT9-3Hg
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Going to wean myself onto a Test+Anavar cycle then wean myself off over the next 20 weeks.

Chances of keeping some gains from the roids and not just my own training?
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>>76782488
>Chances of keeping some gains from the roids
More than zero
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Whats the most dangerous steroid that will give the best gains?
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>>76782849
tren
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>>76782868
Whats the most dangerous steroid that won't do shit for gains?
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>>76782872
idk, dangerous ones give you dangerous gains
those that don't give gains aren't dangerous
and they're not really "dangerous", just have more sides you have to deal with
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>>76782896
I bet if I injected myself with pure cholesterol I'd be fucked
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>>76782902
It probably won't do shit other than clog up your arteries
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>>76782910
Sounds pretty dangerous to me
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Gonna blast synthol
Fuck working out
Just gotta look big
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Joined /fraud/ last week and Im starting to think my body does not like the gear I got (test e in mct oil). Ive been pinning my ventro glute and that shit just hurts all day and even the next day. Should i try more test e in a different substrate? Or go to test c? Ive read that some people have poor reactions to different test types so im wondering if its that or if its the oil that is bothering me. Also curious if this is just “virgin muscle” and not something to really worry about at this point.
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>>76783221
anything visible in the oil? try warming it before drawing. what gauge needle you usin? try pushing the plunger waaaaay slower-- like 30-60s to pin it all
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Good morning
Death to fake natties
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>>76783221
are you relaxing? when i would shoot in the first few weeks i never relaxed and would hurt all week
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>>76781352
couldn't find the tranny with the hints you've sprinkled. my girl was taken out last month with the busts. still have half a year stocked up so i'm not too worried. best i've found is 700iu for 500.
may i have another hint
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How many days after the last pin should I go to dr for bloods to get on trt? Sick of importing.
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yes bitch
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>>76783263
Nothing visible in the oil, ill try warming it in the sink next time though. Using a 20g to load and pinning with a fresh 27g, i feel like it already takes me 30s+ to shoot because of the small size but it does require a lot of pressure, like im pretty much pushing the plunger hard as i can without bending the needle. Ill try slowing it down and see if that works.
>>76783561
The first pin hurt the worst but i think i was half flexing because i was nervous of missing the ventroglute, that one hurt like a mofo. 2nd pin was relaxed and same area and hurt much less but still sore. I tried the other side for my 3rd which was relaxed and that hurt more than the 2nd but not as bad as my first. Honestly i could manage some soreness but this shit feels like i got smacked the day before with a hammer after a couple of hours and stays painful until the next morning.
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>>76780956
I just bought 10 360 iu kits for $1350 total which comes out to $13.50 a vial ($0.37 an iu) and will last probably a year and a half. I run 4 iu when cruising and usually around 8 iu on cycle.
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>>76783796
Also, those kits tested at 40 iu a vial so it’s actually an even better deal than that. I have around 7000 iu of gh and my average cost is right at $0.50 an iu for the entire stash.
You just have to look a little harder
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>>76779112
>All of your family and friends will have always remembered you this way and you will have no social impacts to your life for making this decision
>YOU WILL HAVE NO SOCIAL IMPACTS FOR MAKING THIS DECISION
Is this a joke? Is this the psychological bait they use to convince impressionable youths and older idiots into trooning out? The literal exact opposite of the buttons effect happens 99% of the time when someone transitions, so I really hope I'm misunderstanding this "button" experiment.
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>>76782902
>>76782929
I have a better idea. Inject bleach IV
That will surely be pretty dangerous
The question is what does this all have to do with steroids you asked originally?
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>>76782872
Mibolerone aka cheque drops
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Not exactly /fit/ but anybody tried Semax/Selank, what was your experience?
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>>76777312
>roiding for this
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>>76783596
meso underground forum. not sponsor. i think the only thread on that entire site with 4200+ pages of responses. very controversial right now. telegram only, even though they had listed other contacts. they are delivering, but latest batches do not yet have jano tests. Q
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>>76783683
what esther is your test? wait for it to die out, then do shit to crash your test-- dont sleep (absolutely do this -- works best), get drunk the night before, work out HARD the day before, run six miles before the draw, then wash some donuts down with coca cola an hour before
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>>76783762
oh like... warm warm. never over 160F though, so don't leave it in boiling water. a lot of people use candle wax warmers (just put the vial on it), or those self heating coffee cups (usually they have a button to set the temp). i keep my shit in the uninsulated garage, and oils get thick in the winter. i'll toss the vial in a shallow bit of water in a pot, and put it on a burner for a bit. turn burner off before boil, then let vial sit. or even just hold the vial with your armpit while you watch videos. the point is warm oil flows easier. also you 100% should not have to push so hard. when that happens to me i either need to focus on relaxing the muscle, and/or adjust the depth of the needle. you'll still be applying pressure to the plunger, but you shouldn't have an indent on your thumb from pushing
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>>76783799
oh the tests came back? glad to hear they were high. lots of eyes on that one
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Women don’t like menacing looking men.

>>>/wsg/6017193
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>>76785099
i like to look menacing not for women but for other men
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Any tips for injecting HCG? I read its supposed to be subcutaneous instead of going into muscle, so what ive been doing is pinching my skin and pinning straight down into that. Im a little unsure how deep i have to go though, I go in a little bit and when i inject it leaves a tiny raised bump where the fluid was deposited, very similar to what a mosquito bite looks like. Its obviously going under the skin but is this deep enough or does it need to go even deeper so that theres no raised bump? I rub the bump right after which makes it pretty much go away so im assuming its distributed properly but I wanna make sure this shit is actually getting absorbed.
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>>76779902
>muh ancestors
Why do people give a shit about this?
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my bp is 152/90 on test e 500x1 a week, should i split it into 250x2 a week or cut down back to 350
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>>76785544
doesnt take much fluid subq to cause bumps. you good
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>>76785881
take your ai, nigga
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>>76785886
yeah i should order it…



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