Is OHP/DB Shoulder Press even worth the time and effort?You're already working the Front Delta whenever you Bench. It's a small muscle. Wouldn't adding more Lateral or Rear Delt exercises be more beneficial?
>>76781797If I had to choose between vertical and horizontal presses, I'd choose vertical.
OHP hits ur upper back, upper traps, a unique part of the tricep not hit on bench press, and it trains your core and serratus, OHP carries over to general strength too.Dumbbell OHP is good, but it becomes a problem to dumbbell press 2 large dumbbells at the same time, so 1-Arm Standing Dumbbell Presses are better for long-term progression than a standard seated dumbbell pressOverall the best OHP is with barbell, with 1-arm standing db presses coming in 2nd.
barbell bench is a stupid useless exercise for anything but competing in powerlifting. OHP is the way, and the strength carries over. I OHP 175 for 3x3 as of wednesday and the last time I tested my bench (despite not training bench in literally half a decade) I put up 225 for 8
AD press
>>76781801>>76781809>>76781820not OP, but you actually suggest that OHP is a better exercise than Bench? i always skipped OHP for the reason OP suggested
>>76781857I don't have to choose, but yeah. It's more functional and big chest is a new thing. Early "strongmen" and ancient statues didn't have big pecs.
>>76781866might switch Flat Bench for OHP and see how it goes, thanks Anon.
>>76781857yes, if you only do one it absolutely should be OHP over bench. bench is a competition lift
>>76781809>Dumbbell OHP is good, but it becomes a problem to dumbbell press 2 large dumbbells at the same time, so 1-Arm Standing Dumbbell Presses are better for long-term progression than a standard seated dumbbell presswhy is doing one at a time better? might start doing this if you think it will help me make gains.
>>76781797ohp and db shoulder press are different, shoulder press is generally better for bodybuilding, ohp for strength
>>76781797There's no reason to do OHP, sadly. Even olympic weightlifters ditch OHP for flat bench. If you want more shoulder focus then do incline bench and if you want even more then do front/lateral/rear delt raises.
>>76781797DYEL general
>>76781797>its a small muscleFor you
just do shoulder circles
>>76781820do you still do other chest movements?
>>76781797Incline bench then spam rear and side delt isolations.
>>76781797i want to fuck that ass
If I had to pick, I’d rather do OHP+Cable flys than Bench + front raisesBench never gets me the level of pec tension and pump that I get from flyes in the same rep range
>>76781820>despite not training bench in literally half a decadeSo no chest excercises at all or do you subsist on push up and db press
>>76781797Chat is this real
>>76781797>is one of the four core lifts even worth it?
>>76785166You are the type of a retard that never questions anything, aren't you?>m-muh four core liftsDecided by who?
>>76781797is this scratch and sniff by any chance?
>>76781797vertical presses are better than horizontal presses for aesthetics and shoulder health >You're already working the Front Delta whenever you Bench>It's a small muscle.yea but no one has enough front delt. it's a small aesthetic muscle > Wouldn't adding more Lateral or Rear Delt exercises be more beneficial?you can't load 135+ pounds on a lateral or rear delt raise
>>76785368Decided by God Himself you cretin. Maybe one day you will actually start lifting weights and you will learn the truth.
>>76785723Praise be! Any of Gods creations will inevitably intuit themselves into Powerlifting with accessories as The Path of Light.
I have not touched flat bench in the past 2 years, I do barbell OHP twice a week. Bench is gay. OHP is king.
>>76785723>Decided by God HimselfHe was a jew with BPD in the Bible, so by default no one should listen to his yapping.
>>76785368By science itself (Mike Israetel and Jeff Nippard)
>>76781797Definitely. I've been progressing on my DB shoulder press and thought I could do the same weight for the same amount of reps on a barbell. I was wrong and ever since I switch between them on my upper days
i didnt know there were pussies that hated ohpdo you just do science based midget lifting and do twistarinos on the cables or some shit? like what do you even do thats os much better?(rhetorical question btw do not ansewr i do not give a shit!)
>>76786566You sound gay and childish.
>>76786582Ok, cool. Thank you for letting me know asperger's robot. By the way my good sire, what was it like getting bullied in highschool?
>>76781797If you're trying to get more side delt recruitment just do BTN press instead.
>>76786566they so stuff like machine shoulder presses (lol)
>>76781797My favorite shit is military press, i dont really see many other people doing it or strict. Also db shoulders a ton of people are doing incline bench, sure it still builds shoulders and better than others at certain aspects but every lift shouldnt be a pissing contest thats how you limit gains.
