Remember what they took from you
im pretty sure rfk is bringing this back
>>76782423Why'd it go away?
>>76782423oh I remember
>>76782423sometimes i dont get you morons here on /fit/. this was chemically made at some university lab and everyone takes it without question.
>>76782516dmaa
>>76782516da jooz, probably
>>76782516It got used as a scapegoat for retards with untreated heart-defects dying. >dey used da spooky bodybulder pawder! literally hitlermeth or somethang!1!!It had less side-effects than caffeine and it actually fucking worked instead of just making you feel sick.
>>76782516Same reason most things that actually work go away, because of retards.Take Ephedrine (OG ingredient for HydroxyCut and Rip Fuel) for example, the staple of all pre-workouts and fat burners until it was banned in 2004. Why was it banned if it was such a great product that actually worked?>Be football player of football player intelligence>Get on pro college team>Fellow football player gives 1 dose of Rip Fuel for practice>Amazing practice, 10/10, coach loved me>Wait, if 1 dose makes me preform better...Pic related>Footballmath.jpg>Takes 10 doses for 10x preformance>Walk out into 110 degree Southern State heat>Heart explodes>Die>Parents and College blame Rip Fuel and Ephedrine>No more Ephedrine. If you know anything about medicine, basically the same thing is true there too. Most substances are designed today to be abused and taken in x5 doses by retards which is why 99% of over the counter medicines have the same base ingredient.
is superdump250 still on the market?NOXplode?
ephedrine should be a common household ingredient. restricting it did nothing to meth makers. it's all a charade. the various industries selling caffeine products is the real reason. soda, coffee, etc. gimme back my mormon tea you jews
>The death of Claire Squires, a runner who collapsed near the finish-line of the April 2012 London Marathon, has been linked to methylhexanamine. The coroner stated that methylhexanamine was "probably an important factor" during the inquest. Despite, according to a friend, having been diagnosed with an irregular heartbeat[30] and advised not to consume methylhexanamine, it is believed that she consumed the substance through drinking an energy drink, which was subsequently reformulated to exclude methylhexanamine.[31] like half of banned otc drugs end up being some retarded media circus like this. someone does some daredevil unhealthy shit with it while having preexisting conditions and dies, and their rich jew family cmapaigns to have it banned like theyre doing any good in the worldits probably not healthy for you but a ton of shit isnt
>>76782423I love Jack3d so much it's unreal
>>76783001>restricting it did nothing to meth makersit did, the industry shifted to p2p meth manufactured at industrial scale by cartels. it didn't do much to the availability of meth and p2p meth tends to be way worse for you, but it definitely affected meth makers
When you understand authoritarianism and the nature of government, all its actions make perfect sense.>>76782724Retards will always exist, but they do not have institutional power. Those in power plan to ban all the things they don't like well before a retard gets in the news for overdosing. The role of the retard in society is merely to provide a cover story the authoritarian can use to avoid revealing their true nature
>>76782423Are there any pre-workouts even close to it today?
>>76783243Yes, the days of the mom and pop independent American meth brewer are over, succeeded by big corporate cartel labs.
>>76783840A lot of people swear by this, but I've never tried it because it's like $100 a tub. It's a "proprietary blend" too, so fuck knows what the scribe ingredient is
>>76783909>100 dollarsThe fuck?
>>76783909Scam.
>>76783909ingredients look less than stellar, and they don't even disclose how much of each. aside from caffeine and nootropics, look for some decent pump ingredients like citrulline, nitrosigine, vasodrive-ap, no3-t, agmatine, glycerol, etc. mak sure you know what you are buying and the price is up to par with the ingredients listed. it ain't no rocket science.
>>76782423I mourn the loss of both PPA and Vanadyl Sulfate. Both did great things for me, but both were pulled from the UK market within a few months of me starting to use them.
>>76782516Nobody actually told you the real answer, so I'm going to tell you. A soldier in Afghanistan took this and got heat stroke and died, and they blamed it on the supplement.
>>76782584Lovely.And...Androstene DioneYou could just order it online.
>>76782724EU is starting to limit retinol in skincare products, because children started ODing on tiktak burning their skin.I don't even
Are there any good pre-workouts with DMAA or DMHA?
>>76784170In the UK you're lucky they still give you the right to purchase hate caffeine doses above 50mg.
>>76784293I remember various products from AST behind the counter at my local health food store - I did one cycle of the 19 Nor 3 Andro, after a brush with death and a long layoff. Went back for more and the whole range had been pulled.
>>76782423This particular brand was treated like an illicit holy grail downunder after a miner died and the gubmint banned our gains from us
>>76782423What was the OG Jack3D like bros?
>>76784569dark labs has one called maniaco with 300mg DMHA. seems a little overkill imor*ddit has a list of DMAA and DMHA options on stimjunkiepreworkouts
>>76782516Meth
>>76784589Why are you talking shite, m8?
>>76783018There should be an intermediate level of prescription products that require only a single physical to make sure you don't keel over and die the first time you take them, and once you've passed your check you can just go and purchase them.
>>76785036Thanks.
>>76782423what are the exact ingredients? does anyone know or where can i look it up?
>>76782423Just get bog standard amphetamine. EZ
>>76782428Qrd?
>>76782584This one makes zero sense. How is it any different to vodka redbulls?
>>76785681>where can i look it up?Ever heard of google?
>>76782423This and driven by craze I was like 18-19 taking this shit. Was amazing time to be alive.
>>76785835How is a dominoes pizza different from a pizza you make at your house
>>76782584Goddamnit things really did used to be better
>>76782423Now the strongest supplement-legal stim is this dynamine stuff. Idk how good it is for you.
>>76784755Lotta good stuff has ben taken away for sure. Once it was discovered Mark McGuire and others were taking Androstene Dione, and other things Im sure, they pulled it.I just inject Test C twice a week now. Fuck it.
>>76785946Lol no
>>76785958McGwireAnd he was a BIG motherfucker too...
>>76785976it works alright, it's about like ephedra but legal to put in energy drinks
>>76782724Many drugs are banned for this reason as well. All it takes is one retard to misuse something and it's gone forever. Though if you dig deep enough, you will find many obscure substances that are completely legal - mostly from plants you can grow yourself.
>>76786029>you will find many obscure substances that are completely legal - mostly from plants you can grow yourself.Well? We're waiting.
I got some raw DMAAhow much goes into a serving?
>>76786182depends on your weight/tolerance. if you dont have experience, start with 25 mg and work up from there. its quite potent
>>76785072Do you have a permit to rebuke that anon?No?Then fuck off.
>>76784569I like Dark Labs Crack OG for DMHA pre and El Jefe Guerilla for normal pre
>>76782423>>76782613>>76784569>>76785036how the fuck can you guys sleep on DMAA? I literally felt like I was on ecstasy when I took the shit It turned me into a fucking superhero but then what do i do after?
Can you even buy pre workouts with DMAA these days?
>>76786319You can buy it on roid sites
>>76786334Link?
>>76786319It's perfectly legal to buy. Carolina chemicals sells it. You just can't buy it in a product for human consumption.
>>76786309take in the morninglift in the morningdrink a lot of water the rest of the day
>>76786001OK?
>>76786045pretty much all seeds are legal to own in EU, even dangerous ones like the ricin bean, where a tablespoon of those seeds are enough to kill an adult...You can just order 100'000 seeds casually lol. though once you grow some psychedelic plant, some MIGHT be illegal to own, but laws regarding obscure weird druggy plants aren't that enforced - you'd need to be stupid like making public facebook posts about selling psychedelic drug plants. and even then you might just get a fine or something. >Psychotria Viridis and Banisteriopsis caapi - basically ayahuasca is made from this, one plant gives the DMT, the other lets you digest it. it's weird that you can just order these seeds online and grow them lol. Psychotria has other psychoactive species, not sure how those would work though.>Lophophora williamsii (peyote cactus) and Trichocereus macrogonus var. pachanoi (san pedro cactus) - two cacti with mescaline you can also grow from seed, but takes a while. many flower shops unwittingly sell peyote cactus, also I've seen old grandmas selling them on facebook because their flowers are beautiful.>Myristica fragrans (nutmeg) - a common spice sold in grocery stores, can be used as a deliriant if u want to trip (not a nice trip though)>Areca catechu (Betel Nut) - a seed from a palm tree, that gives a stimulant effect once chewed. people in asia use it. >Entada Rheedii (african dream herb) seeds - a gigantic bean you can grind into powder, that is said to give psychedelic dreams if smoked before bedthese are from the top of my head, I used to spam chatGpt about this shit a lot some time ago. but yeah just google these plants, look for a seed vendor online and go wild. or just go down the rabbit hole and google alkaloids, which plants have them, which plants MIGHT have them, and theory-craft how you can spend 2-3 years growing some amazon jungle plant to experience a mild weed-like sensation for 2-3 hours.
>>76782640>It had less side-effects than caffeineAre you just trolling?
>>76782516It had that 1,3 Dim in it that ACTUALLY worked, but the fucking downies in the military took 10 scoops and their heart said >fuck this and gave out. Then the gubbyment said "we can't have this shit! It makes us look bad," and banned it.
>>76786620*In comparison to the ridiculous caffeine dosaging in today's neutered pre-wrokouts that contains the equivalent of chugging down 4 monster cans in one go. DMAA was just a better bang for your buck for my body at least. I cannot speak for yours.
>>76785887I'm not sure what point you're trying to make... Neither pizza is banned.
>>76786622Retards.
>>76787122The point I was trying to make is that one product is made available already premade
>>76787122Then why are you asking questions if you already know the answer?
>>76782423Man.....
>>76786266It's not even illegal to buy and use steroids in the UK. So why would you make a retarded comment about caffeine being banned? The US is far more stringent than the UK when it comes to regulating drugs.
>>76787561alright, you were warned, but it's off to the clink for youPlease open your door for the nice bobbies outside so they can arrest you. If you do not, they will be forced to come back another time.
>>76787599>yank conceding to the mighty anglosad!
>>76782423Do you even need preworkouts? I get all shaky and anxious on them. On lower weights it’s fine but when trying for PR i feel it messes with my focus and balance. Even coffee and caffeine pills.My lifts feel best when i do them early in the morning after sleeping well
>>76787561Technically it's illegal but decriminalized. So they can and do seize. Also getting any of the adjuncts like HCG, AI/PCT is illegal.
>>76787122>Neither pizza is bannedYou can literally go buy Four Loko right now
>>76787122retard
>>76782724ephedrine is still legal just buy bronkaid from any drug store
>>76785946dynamine is just a different compound similar to caffeine that's been isolated from coffee or yerba mate or something idkdoesn't really feel all that different
>>76782423Never tried it.
>>76782516Retards being retards.
Any good preworkouts these days?
>>76784973I took 2 scoops one time in Afghanistan because the boys were doing that murph work out. We ended up doing a double murph and weren't even tired. Imagine doing a workout so fucking good you remember it for 13 years.
>>76789485Damn........I feel jealous.
>>76788506the legality of ephedrine varies state to state
>>76788515It's a caffeine booster the army invented, it's not naturally occuring.
>>76782428Really?
>>76789485KINO.
>>76782423No.
>>76782423I remember mixing this shit with beer and vodka in college lol
>>76784973I remember feeling like a million needles poking me. I actually liked the feeling. Workouts were never better. Got my 1rm squat to 355.
>>76791918Goddamn!!!
>>76785096This would be nice. You could apply that to things like test too. Like you can only get a bottle if you have bloodwork with you.
is there some other compound that gives the same benefit/effect as DMAA but can be purchased OTC?
>>76792437not same but similar. yohimbine
>>76792641yeah i can see that but it seems lackluster overall
>>76782423They used to have actual anabolics in tainted supplements, isnt this basically an amphetamine?
