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Will there be a big difference between these two lifts? If so, which is better?
Or are they effectively the same?
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>>76800998
Anon the bar is 45 lbs by itself
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>>76801076
Yeah but the bar is supported by your hands, and the bar is supporting the actual weight, so you can basically subtract the weight of the bar.

This is why people say they bench two plate, not two plate plus the bar. The bar doesn't exist essentially if your hands are supporting the bar and the bar is supporting the weights.
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>>76801249
It’s like having a dildo in your ass; if a dildo is supported by another dildo it’s basically like there’s zero dildos in your ass.
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you're forcing your weaker arm to do more work by using dumbbells
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>>76801249
>subtract the weight of the bar.
You're fucking retarded & need a remedial physics class.
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>>76801249
No anon, you count the weight of the bar. Assuming the total weight is the same on both movement, they are a little different: Because of the wrist angle is can stimulate your arm muscles in a slightly different way, and you can cheat less or more depending on how you do them.
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>>76800998
>Will there be a big difference between these two lifts? If so, which is better?
i don't use free weights for biceps with great success :D nor triceps for that matter :D
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>>76767661
>>kneel beside bench, rest elbow on bench put powerband under outside foot and hook powerband on thumb and wrap it through wrist (not palm, it's not wrist flexion excercise - it's biceps) so that it pronates your forearm by unwinding, and put your pinky into your shirt pocket - full internal rotation of shoulder
>only that i have put folded rug under powerband on wrist to make the lever arm for supination bigger - very nice, that's the way to go :D
>and i was about to do triceps with support under elbow with dumbbell - load doesn't go through shoulder at all and it dawned on me
>this pictured pose of dead roided and oiled up retard is exactly how i'm gonna do my triceps from now on - and i was right, it feels amazing, and nothing feels wrong :D
>sit on yer arse bend over so that your elbow is at knee level, spread legs apart, step on powerband with opposite foot and hook powerband on wrist, extend elbow, THE BEST
>course it is kinda awkward to lever through biceps side of elbow so use pad/ pillow in-between, and glute medius gets tired on supporting leg so i lodged other arm between my knees to spread the load that i'm delivering to triceps via powerband

pictured the position of arm when supinating fro biceps against powerband resistance

there's another version pending but needs evaluation - lie on the floor and supinate/pull from the side while humerus rests on the floor
the idea is that it will straighten long head shoulder biceps tendon with obligatory relaxed delt, but like i said it needs evaluation and i am too busy atm, soon though :D
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>>76800998
If the guy at the bottom is what you look like from doing dumbbell curls, I think I'm gonna stick to the barbell.
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>>76800998
>Lifting basically zero weight vs lifting basically zero weight
No, anon, there's no big difference.
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>>76801574
>>76801565
zero lifting bot, all the muscle hypertrophy:
>>76801534

>whodathunk eliminating wrist and shoulder at the same time would isolate arms
>not me
well u pretend to be retarded at all times bot :D
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>>76801249
>Yeah but the bar is supported by your hands, and the bar is supporting the actual weight, so you can basically subtract the weight of the bar.
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>>76801249
Yeah?
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>>76801631
ahahah so funny
it doesn't matter - rubber is better :D cause it alows resistance for SUPINATION
>>76801534
>>only that i have put folded rug under powerband on wrist to make the lever arm for supination bigger - very nice, that's the way to go :D
and the key is soft delt so that long head biceps shoulder tendon can slide freely

with "lifting" retardo heavy stick or dubbells humerus is held in place with flexed delt - that's why it doesn't grow shit
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>>76801249
>you can basically subtract the weight of the bar
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>>76801249
bruh
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>>76801249
anyone have the pic of anon bench pressing 5 olympic bars at once? Guess he was benching 0 kg



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