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This guy was right all along. Training is bad , you don't need training to be healthy if you eat the right foods. Training increases cortisol

cortisol = survival mode
which ages you and kills you faster
raw meat and raw dairy with some fruits is all you need.


All gymcels are full of cortisol and panda eyes , eating grain sludge and avoiding the sun and lifting man made metal to get an unatural unhealthy , unsustainable physique.


Prove me wrong . I'm waiting.
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>>76802045
>lifting weights is survival mode
Maybe if you're a pussy that has never done sports and been hiding indoors his whole life. Nice admission of being a noodle armed weakling you fucking bitch.
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I would take him and Phillion seriously if i didn't know they both are ex-roiders who couldn't make it or build a proper physique and hopped off to grift on "calling out" gymgoers
In another world goatis is shilling his diet as optimal for powerlifting and phillion is suckling alex eubank balls
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>>76802058
you still haven't disproved any of my claims
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>>76802045
The reactions from the gym slaves are exactly the same when you tell girls you hate pitbulls. Their brain just short circuits and they go off on emotionally charged rants
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>>76802051
doing sport causes heart attacks. Doing sports is not natural
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>>76802061
what is that even supposed to mean
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>>76802059
I just did, you monkey say training bad, me say training good. Goatits = B.T.F.O
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>>76802045
>Literally spends all day sitting on his man made computer using technology to bitch about anyone who intimidates him

Sad
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>>76802077
gym slaves are not intimidating anyone , they are infertile and will die at their 40s (without a family)


Fucking retard.
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>>76802082
Just like goatis lol
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>>76802045
you body needs movement because otherwise you lose lean tissue like muscle/bone and your lymphatic system doesn't flow
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>>76802100
Yes, natural movement like walking
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>>76802082
>Looking up to a weak online beggar

Sad
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>>76802106
Walking is unnatural, humans in nature skip
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>>76802106
indeed 80% of the time it should be low intensity movement
the gym idiots do it the other way around hehe
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>>76802121
Yeah, if you're 90 year old grandad
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>>76802128
are you saying now you need intensity?
i dont get it
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>>76802045
He's wrong about exercise. Exercise improves blood flow to the brain, blood flow to the skin, and general well-being.
There are many people whose bodies produce lots of stress hormones regardless, and they need exercise to calm down, or they'll be unable to get proper sleep.

His only "evidence" about exercise being bad for health comes from studies made on extreme endurance sportsmen like marathon runners, cyclists, etc.
And even then, all the people in these studies, and the examples he provides of people aging a lot from exercise, are people on a carb-heavy plant based diet.
Most of the damage could be blamed on eating plants, drinking alcohol and coffee (ages you like shit), and not enough animal products.

He's right in that most people are overdoing it, but going for a 10-15 minute run twice or thrice a week isn't going to kill you.

Lack of exercise causes the brain to deteriorate: https://youtu.be/DsVzKCk066g
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>>76802100
nigga you need to lie in bed motionlessly for weeks to experience atrophy
gymcels unironically think that if they skip a day of self-torture their bodies will shrivel and turn to dust
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He forgets that most people arent nepo babies and cant afford this lifestyle which makes his premise of harrassing people to get into it stupid, but then again he adresses the issue of why a lifestyle of fucking milk and meat is hard for the average person and i agree with him on this part except that he gives no answer like every other grifter basically
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>>76802140
indeed

>>76802141
im not your nigga, bro
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>>76802045
>prove me wrong
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpfg-5qWWIE&pp=0gcJCQMKAYcqIYzv
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>>76802138
I'm saying you are an artificial man made slave, like goatis the internet loser slave
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>>76802165
ok i will take this to heart, random man on 4chan
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>>76802160
>the body adapts to low energy conditions and draws less oxygen
>AAAAAAAAAAA THIS IS WORSE THAN DEATH NOOOO I GOTTA ROON AND LIFT WEIGHTS AND TAKE ROIDS
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>>76802189
Hello slave internet beggar
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>>76802292
>Just lay down and rot
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>>76802045

I don't need to prove you wrong cause you dont actually have a fully formed argument. The entire concept is poorly thought out, and extremely thin. Cortisol is released during ANY high intensity excercise, it's released during swimming skiing, rowing, cause in that case youre arguing that doing excercise in general is more damaging than doing nothing and eating fructose, cause any doctor or nutritionist would call you a fucking retard. Personally though id just tell you to get the fuck off my board, as it's fit, and youre arguing against excercise, im sure Pol needs a new whiny vegan.

Alternatively if youre arguing against excercise cause it increases cortisol then you should probably quit your job too, sell your car as well, cause cortisol is the stress hormone, and both of those things cause spikes in cortisol, and don't release endorphins unlike excercise, which does.

Im sure this subversive shit works with mom and dad at the dinner table but on here you just said like a uninformed cunt.
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>>76802354
still didn't debunk my claims . Congratulations , now go lift your man made metal and torture yourself
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>>76802045
the proof is in your bitch tits mate, buy a fucking ad
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Kent Carnivore is basically a non-insane version of Goatis
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>>76802363
because i said the truth ,? training aka self-torture increases cortisol and kills you ?
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>>76802045
exactly . The jews promote training so they kill you prematurely
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>>76802376
Why would jews want you fit and fast. Gymcelling is indeed slave culture but i dont think slavers ever fed their slaves properly or let them do anything beyond menial basic slave tasks
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>>76802350
Just lay down in a coffin like a vampire and try to move as little as possible, and you'll live 500 years bro, I pinky promise bro it's real.
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>>76802364
There are so many other carnivore influencers that do such a better job than him. But he was the first to denounce veganism and start a movement against it a decade ago.
He might be nuts, but he's saved literally thousands of lives by talking them out of veganism and exposing their lies.
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>do nothing at all and live to 100
>become strong, big, beautiful and live to 80
oh no... anyway
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>>76802045
Training reduces stress, stress ages you. Checkmate.

But yeah, overtraining can hurt your health mister obvious
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fuck off jake the asshole
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>>76802045
do people even take him seriously
why do I still see him everywhere after all those years
at least back in the day people knew he was a lolcow
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>>76802045
His theory would be valid if humans existed in a bacta tank with 0 external stressors. Yes, in the long, two exactly identical humans, both in simulated environments, one stress-free and one with cortisol and other stress responses hormones, the stress-free one's body would degrade slower and live longer.
That is ignoring two things.
One, is hormesis. Our bodies adapt to stress. Repeated stress does less and less damage over time.
Two, is the fact that our world DOES contain external stressors. The #1 cause of death for elderly citizens (65 and above) in my country isn't heart attacks, it isn't cancer, it isn't any disease, it's domestic accidents: slipping and falling in the bathroom and denting your skull in and dying.
Accidents are what kill most people who are in good health, even on a "modern" diet contained sanitized carbs. Training your muscles dramatically improves your chance of surviving any accident, be it from a motor vehicle, in a domestic setting, or at work.
You are adapting to stress. Stress is what kills us. You will never, EVER completely get rid of stress: might as well adapt to it and take control instead of running away and surrendering.
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Animals play and exercise with their young and by themselves to stimulate their brains and body and prevent atrophy. This pretty much debunks his claim of exercise being "unnatural".
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Isn't this the guy who said the youngest girl in the Epstein island was 13 so that makes it ok?
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>>76802507
eating grain sludge and protein powders is not eating properly.
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Killjoys who get paid by jewtube for posting videos moaning about how others spend their freetime need to kill themselves
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>>76803514
If i was rich and part of the elite, i'd too be drowning in young pussy. Rules and concepts like right/wrong exist only for the plebs.
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>>76803650
Exactly.
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>>76802045
LITERALLY GOOGLE "COLIBACTIN" LOL

Goatis is shilling all-natural ass cancer. Not working out also makes it worse, kek.
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>>76803660
>Microbes exist because uuuh.... because.... because jewishman told me !!! He cant lie to me wtf
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>>76803666
You can literally grow visible colonies of them, like IDK how 5chins getting so dense these days.
>IS AIR REAL? I HEAR IT'S JUST A TALMUD PSYOP!
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>>76803358
Animals are too busy finding food and hunting wnd can't afford to waste energy playing around
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>>76802045
>Just eat raw meat
How many parasites this nigga got
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>>76803772
Do you cook your lettuce? Did you know that lettuce is more likely to contain parasites than raw meat?
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>>76802360

I actually did one better, I proved you have no argument. I asked if you were arguing against all excercise since it increases cortisol, or just activities that increase cortisol ie every day life. You just brought up weights again, which as previously established swimming increases cortisol. Instead you just reiterated your water on the brain troll shit, which means you either dont believe this either or are two stupid to form a salient point. Either way im done wiping my ass with you.

Ssssage.
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>>76803779
Even piggy meat?
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>>76804030
Yes, in fact pig meat is the safest meat to eat raw if you are in the USA/EU.
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>>76804046
Would've thought it was beef that's good to know
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>>76803779
The difference is that you can just wash your lettuce to make it safe to eat. That won't work with raw meat.
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>>76804072
>The difference is that you can just wash your lettuce to make it safe to eat
Completely wrong.
But anyways it's not like I'm telling you not to eat raw lettuce kek I eat it and don't care about muh parasites.
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If someone's EVER been a vegan, its enough to discredit everything they say afterwards.
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>>76802045
hey sverige, looks like you made another thread about yourself without buying an ad. did you fail to get more donation support from your loyal subscribers? please take your grifting back to youtube
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>>76802045
Idk, I know I would have six pack abs on paleo if I would follow it properly. No need to take it further.
You would have to spend easily $1000/m on groceries or else kill six deer a year and own a cow.
Does jerky count as raw on this diet? Herodotus said some people by the sea live on nothing but sun dried fish.
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>>76802045
Did you know waking up also increases cortisol?
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>>76802045
Hair transplant
I'll wait for your response OP
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>>76802061
True but with calling powershitters fat
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>>76804070
>Would've thought it was beef that's good to know
You just got psyop'd, at least the raw beef only gives you ass cancer at worst.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichinosis
>Trichinosis is mainly spread when undercooked meat containing Trichinella cysts is eaten. Wild meat is more likely to contain the parasite. In North America this is most often bear, but infection can also occur from pork, boar, and dog meat.
>Trichinosis can be fatal depending on the severity of the infection; death can occur 4–6 weeks after the infection, and is usually caused by myocarditis, encephalitis, or pneumonia.
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>>76804342
>beef only gives you ass cancer at worst
no it doesnt. clinical trials have disproven this
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>>76804483
>no it doesnt. clinical trials have disproven this
1. clinical trials were mostly run on people SMART ENOUGH TO COOK THEIR FUCKING BEEF
2. clinical trials still found beef causes a ~15-20% increase in CRC, but this mechanism is mostly through PAHs/HAs/AGEs which are from OVERCOOKING skill issues
3. you still didn't Google "colibactin" which is a carcinogen from e. coli which gets killed by cooking, so the complete tards who don't cook their meat at all won't get enough ass cancer that way to be statistically significant in a whole population until we go full Idiocracy and elect Goatis president
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>>76804496
>clinical trials still found beef causes a ~15-20% increase in CRC
the largest rct i know showed no difference
>There were 201 women with invasive colorectal cancer (0.13% per year) in the intervention group and 279 (0.12% per year) in the comparison group (hazard ratio, 1.08; 95% confidence interval, 0.90-1.29).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16467233/
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>>76804513
>the largest rct i know showed no difference
>>76804513
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16467233/
>randomized controlled trial conducted in 48,835 postmenopausal women
Uh...
>Systematic Analysis of the Differential Effects of Red Meat on Colorectal Cancer Risks: A Meta-Analytic Approach
>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12029-025-01247-3
>Results
>Beef consumption was significantly associated with increased CRC risk, with a 30% overall risk increase (95% CI: 1.10–1.54). The association with colon cancer (CC) was marginally significant (RR = 1.19, 95% CI: 0.99–1.43, p = 0.0585), while the link to rectal cancer (RC) was not statistically significant. Pork consumption was associated with a 17% increased CRC risk (95% CI: 1.09–1.25), with similar, nonsignificant trends for CC and RC. Lamb consumption was weakly associated with an 11% increase in CRC risk (95% CI: 1.02–1.21), though this was based on limited studies (n = 6), and no significant associations emerged for cancer subtypes.
I eat beef, I just cook it *very* autistically at low temperatures with a massive cocktail of edible chemoprophylaxis agents.
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>>76804539
uh anon those arent rcts...
>Of the included studies, 18 (66.7%) were case–control studies, and 33.3% were cohort studies.
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>>76804551
Somehow, through magic science wizardry, your paper with not quite 50k subjects is better than mine with over a million?

What if the old bitches in your paper just had S-tier cooking skills? A lot of old bitches up on that Martha Stewart shit. I bet my beef is negatively associated with CRC, as loaded up on chemos as it is by now.
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>>76804539
>>76804496
Sad, grilling is the tastiest.

What temp do you want to avoid going over?
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>>76804560
>your paper with not quite 50k subjects is better than mine with over a million
yes it is. methodology is important as well. obviously youre not going to be convinced by that so heres a 60+ million person paper which must be the truth because thats a bigly number of ppl
>The magnitude of association between red and processed meat consumption and all-cause mortality and adverse cardiometabolic outcomes is very small, and the evidence is of low certainty.
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M19-0655
>Saturated fat in red meat has been associated with the onset of atherosclerosis. However, this hypothesis has been based on observational or animal studies, instead of randomised controlled trials, a standard study designed to identify the causal relationship.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8881926/
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>>76802045
Eat grains, and save the environment and the animals!
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>>76804560
>>76804574
this whole paper is worth a read if you want to understand why but this is the short of it. bear in mind this author was on the IARC panel of the WHO that claims red or processed meat cause cancer
>Despite claims by the World Health Organization (WHO) that eating processed meat causes colon cancer and red meat probably causes cancer, the observational data used to support the claims are weak, confounded by multiple unmeasured factors, and not supported by other types of research needed for such a conclusion. Although intervention studies are designed to test the validity of associations found in observational studies, two interventions of low-fat, low-meat diets in volunteers that failed to find a benefit on cancer were not considered in the WHO decision.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7015455/
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>>76804579
Yeah, well they said that shit about cigarettes and lung cancer too...
>"muh cooorooleeetion!"
Aside from colibactin in undercooking skill issues, picrel explains the mechanistic problem with overcooking skill issues. Enjoy losing your hair to a hillbilly oncologisting wielding FOLFOX in the 2030s listening to "MUH CURRALSHIN!"

But here's some actually useful info cited by Jewgle's clanker, instead of just being full doomer...
>Ginger and curcumin can inhibit heterocyclic amines and advanced glycation end products in roast beef patties by quenching free radicals as revealed by electron paramagnetic resonance
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0956713522002316
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>>76804597
>Yeah, well they said that shit about cigarettes and lung cancer too...
>>"muh cooorooleeetion!"
not even remotely comparable. orders of magnitude difference in the strength of associations. nothing you posted is based off human data now. HCAs and AGEs may be a nothing burger
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>>76804597
>>76804602
heres the comparison to the cigarettes lung cancer association
>How does this compare with known carcinogens? The increased relative risk of lung cancer from smoking cigarettes is 1000–3000%. The increased relative risk of liver cancer from eating moldy grains contaminated with aflatoxin is about 600%. In fields outside nutrition, the usual threshold for confidence about relative risk is in the range of 200–400%. At the higher end of that range, one can be guardedly confident but “we can hardly ever be confident about estimates of less than 2.0, and when estimates are much below 2.0, we are simply out of business” (Shapiro, 2004); relative risk of 2.0 translates to an increase of 100%. So, an 18% increase equals a relative risk of 1.18, and this score falls substantially below the threshold that epidemiologists in other fields generally accept as worthy of further investigation.
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>>76804602
>HCAs and AGEs may be a nothing burger
Uh...
>https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/instant-coffee-drinkers-may-face-higher-risk-of-this-eye-disease-study-warns

>>76804605
>epidemiologists
Retarded specialty that doesn't even know what pepetides are.
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>>76804607
>now resorting to paper mill chinese university "science" known for widespread fraud
its so tiresome. still no good evidence HCAs and AGEs arent a nothing burger
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>>76804625
>still no good evidence HCAs and AGEs arent a nothing burger
Hulk Hogan dying at the average age of an ancient Koraen nullo, aside from the steroid abuse (Hey, Arnold! still around).

But yeah, here's some more Chinese paper mill bullshit to read cuz Daddy Trump dun Old Yeller'd NIH:
>Advanced Glycation End Products and Health: A Systematic Review
>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10439-024-03499-9
>Advanced glycation end products (AGEs) have garnered significant attention due to their association with chronic diseases and the aging process. The prevalence of geriatric diseases among young individuals has witnessed a notable surge in recent years, potentially attributed to the accelerated pace of modern life.

>Heterocyclic Amines in Meat and Meat Products: Occurrence, Formation, Mitigation, Health Risks and Intervention
>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/87559129.2023.2221346
> Heterocyclic amines (HAAs) are common contaminants in thermally processed meat products and Maillard reactions play an essential role in their formation. The production of HAAs highly relies on precursors in raw meats and processing conditions, which can be modified to attenuate HAAs.

>>76804563
Under 250F is fairly safe, but cooking in acidic solutions at 165F is S-tier.
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>>76804670
>still not a clinical trial in sight
you just keep moving goalposts and coping. what happened to red meat anon. My study is bigger so I'm right. Jesus Christ you're a larping moron
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>>76804688
Also literally the mechanistic reason why hulkster looked so abnormally freakin' walled near the end, aside from roids/tanning/natural aging also.
>Advanced glycation end products: Key players in skin aging?
>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.4161/derm.22028
>Advanced Glycation End Products in the Skin: Molecular Mechanisms, Methods of Measurement, and Inhibitory Pathways
>https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/medicine/articles/10.3389/fmed.2022.837222/full
>The Receptor for Advanced Glycation End Products Is Highly Expressed in the Skin and Upregulated by Advanced Glycation End Products and Tumor Necrosis Factor-Alpha
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X1532738X
But yeah sure just raw or charred or whatever meat, I'm just trying to spread awareness for shilling my upcoming anti-carcinogenic JewT00b cooking series, kek.



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