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What do you do?
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>>76802423
Abandon ship
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>>76802424
This. I married her for what she looked like then, if she gains a fuck ton of weight I am going to divorce her.
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>I'm very concerned about your health, love. No cardio = incoming Diabetes
--> Before menopause.
>Trust me: lifting weights helps A LOT to overcome low bone density, hon...
--> After menopause.
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>>76802423
Die I guess. Had a good (bad) run.
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>>76802423
Depends on how comfortable the comfortable phase is. I don’t mind a little thickness.
>pic related
Too comfortable. I guess I’ll just try to persuade and/or manipulate her into being healthy. If that fails, then I’ll consider cheating or divorce or self-decapitation.
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>>76802423
kinky sex with that pig: tie her up and force feed her donuts with buttfucking her
if she really loves me she will do it
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>>76802423
>2 years
clearly i need to add a lot more calories to her diet because that is a pathetic amount of weight gain
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>>76802423
I would have left long before getting to the stage 3 picture.
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>>76802423
>fat woman remains fat for 4 years.
Interesting.
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>>76802423
>What do you do?
Plap every day
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>>76802423
I would have put that bitch on a diet and exercise program after the first 10 pounds.
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>>76802423
Can women really fall off that fast in 2 years? When I was purposefully trying to bulk I wasn't even able to gain that much weight. Also what's up with such low quality images in 2025?? How does this problem persists? Are people purposefully corrupting images? For what purpose?
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>>76802423
Accept that they look like that because OF YOU
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>>76802423
>Got married
>Didn't immediately knock her up
R u retarted
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>>76802423
this is my life. if she keeps it up i will eventually leave. it has severely damaged my opinion of women in general. if i leave i will not marry again. i hope she can work it out but i have no strong feeling that she will.

inb4 just make her lose weight, you virgins have no idea; read classic literature and you will constantly find these authors writing about the exasperating experience of discovering that you have absolutely no control over women at all. that’s why these tate/bilzerian types are always with whores instead of trying to find and establish relationships with real women: deep down even they know that if they do this they will have to come to terms with the fact that women really just do whatever they feel like, and there is literally nothing you can do about it. i would say most marriages dissolve because either the man is unable to provide or because the woman just does whatever she feels like in the moment and that this is not wife/mother tier behaviour
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>>76802423
What the hell is this pig eating?
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Use her for anal exclusively and find a side chick
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>>76802457
based architect
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>>76802423
She'll lose the weight if you divorce her, guaranteed, to make herself look good for the man who replaces you.
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>sexhaver lovehaver wifehaver problems
<shrugs in incel>
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i can just tell my husband he's getting a bit heavy and he will understand that i don't mean it as an insult and, while i won't leave him over it, he would still try to lose weight because he cares about what i do and don't enjoy and wants to make me happy
and vice versa, i would and currently am doing the same for him for the same reasons
maybe you should just try dating men instead
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>>76802423
Don't get married, dipshit
Needing a woman a woman to help take care of your life is the most cucked thing imaginable
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>>76802511
Yes. My gf went from a 9/10 to a 5/10 in the span of a year because she ate her feelings away. She lost it again and kept it off but it really sucked going from a gf that turned heads everywhere to a fat girl with a pretty face.
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>>76802423
I understand the weight gain from child bearing, but outside of that you should have known better before marrying her. If your wife becomes a glut pig then thats on you. Why do thing make up is called war paint. Stop think with your dick and stop being gay.
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inbe4 pierce brosnan picrel
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>>76802423
Looks do matter. You may love them but become physically repulsed by that which used to attract you. Plus, its a one way ticket to metabolic syndrome and heart disease. So the real question is, does she love herself if she treats her body like shit? It's not expected for the partner to carry her emotional weight. That is textbook codependency.
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>>76802423
He didn't fall in love with a fat chick
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>>76802511
>Can women really fall off that fast in 2 years? When I was purposefully trying to bulk I wasn't even able to gain that much weight

That's probably because you were still trying to eat somewhat healthy. Getting calories in is easy as fuck if you don't care about what you eat. You can double your daily calorie intake just by getting a large starbucks drink with 100g of sugar every morning and drinking full sugar soda with every meal
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I stay with her for a decade, wait for that hate for herself builds and leave her as a broken man.... in theory.
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>>76802423
gf is serious about health and longevity, and we're not having kids. I've told her over and over again how I think people who get fat after getting hitched don't respect their partner, let alone themselves. I don't want to live with and love somebody that will destroy themselves. I think she knows she can't put me through what my overweight parents put me through. I won't be able to stay.
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>>76802823
This but unironically
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>>76802423
She looks a little porky in the first picture, lighting is bad as well.
I'd have to be with a woman that actually works out.
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>>76802423
Make sure she keeps gaining and crack them cheeks every night
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Get her a kit of Semaglutide for Xmas.
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>>76802423
Stop fucking her until she loses weight. But usually it's the woman that loses the libido first so it might not work
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>>76802423
Get her pregnant, duh.
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I started drinking, then I started cheating on her, then she caught me, then we got divorced. It's actually one of my biggest regrets since I've been forced to discover how vivid my imagination is being condemned to masturbation now that the divorce financially ruined me and thus could've easily just closed my eyes and pretended she was thin when I was shooting a wad in her mouth, with the other regret being I discovered from a friend she not only lost the weight and got implants and fucking looks better than she did when we met, but now has an OnlyFans where she fucks blacks half her age. The theme she goes with is "unfaithful interracial MILF".
>oh my fucking god your cock is twice the size of my husband's
>my husband never fucked me like this
>my husband never made me cum

I will not survive my forties.
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>>76803364
The Author's Barely-Disguised Fetish
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>>76802531
you know what, i am not pretending to know your position, but what i knoe about life, the hard earned lessons i can leave you with this. Let go, whatever it is you are clinging to, whatever fear you have that brings your heartrate up and occupies most of your strength to go about your business. The harder you cling the more you choke the life out of whatever you sought out to protect. Preemptivly embrace and accept the L, the worst possiblr outcome. Just be alright with the fact that it will happen. From that place onwards and only there will you have permuated the environement with soil fertile enough to have anything you desired in the first place to grow. Ive been to the most mind breaking places, qcceptence is the place from which you can actually start the maneuvers that can possibly bring about the care or protection or the imparting of love on those you want to do/ have those things happen to. Now practical points. Ive been fat, leaned out, lost my way got fat again, currently on my way to leaning out for good. What i have seen is that everything starts with you and it ends eith you. Not in a natural hierarchy way or a chicks vs x way no. Whatever is in you and is you that you carry into the world and therefore thats the chemical reaction you get. So, lean out, just do it, move at night unseen unheard. Never discuss this goal, do not give advice just be, embody and that and only that, the paving of a previously not existing way, that very pioneering of a path is where your wife may or may not want to follow. Thats where you can only controll yourself, not others. If she truly wants anything good for her and you shell do whats necessary. There are so many perspectives to consider but so few words to express it. Change your self image, change your self talk to be absolutly the mf you always wanted to be and be content with the man you are. Basicly become Napoleon of your life. Anything by Robert Greene will help you get there
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>>76803364
where your focus goes there the energy flows. You can only controll yourself not others. Even when beating the other party into submission the second you go to sleep they break out of your NVA prison and be gone. Frankly, yoir standards are low. You HAVE to allow yourself to own the lesson you learned here. Do not blame one or the other, none of it is personal, its just signals you now have the oppertunity to make into what you want them to be (serve you or hang you). like i told the bloke above you. You first forgive yourself. Atm you are in a lengthy court session in which you are giving yourself all kinds of life sentences, wouldnt it be nice to have the authority to get out of jail free ? You can, its your authority and by it you can get yourself out of your selfmade prison. Fogive yourself, then improve your self image in accord to who you want to be and live your life as (results), see the merit in what you did and why you did it, you and i are human, no more no less. We make mistakes, not knowing yourself and what you want you cant possibly expect to handle the outside ina way that get you what you want. Once you got a heavy and certain enough WHY you do this, embark on the journey, its a leap of faith, make your moves and allow yourself to live a good life. Manouver there, everything worthwhile is hard to come by. and to you i say as well, Robert Greene material is an essential to unfuck your life and get a grasp on how to repurpose what youve experiemced so far and how to make those exp work for you. The 50th law in particular is a book you should absorb, 10 times over. There are so many important considerations you wouldnt make due to lack of exposure to them in our life organically and to those essntials nobody taight us. You can seek out the ability to win, you just gotta wanna go there and actually go there
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>>76802423
Make it clear that you despise fatties early
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>>76803364
link to her leaked OF? I need to coom and this got me going frfr.
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>>76802423
>marriage for love
hahahaha, marriage is for procreation and/or for strategic/diplomatic/monetary reasons such as to smooth over blood feuds or protect dynasties and enterprises.

your wife is not your friend, she's your breeding and strategic partner.
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>>76803570
Pedos deserve to be hanged.
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>>76803618
Pedos are hung*
ESL retard
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>>76803364
I don't believe you, but you can always kill her. I don't understand why people don't years after a messy divorce
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>>76803653
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>>76803570
Pedos deserve to be hanged.
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>>76803364

Youre just devastated cause it's fresh my brother. I used to date a mixed chick who had D cup tits a fat ass and a v taper. Over time she fucked me less and less and it became bi weekly. I eventually broke up with her, and when she started dating again I was devastated about all the cock she was now taking. The more I thought about it though, I realized it didn't matter cause she wasnt willing to make that change for me, and any girl I ended up with would at least make me feel sexually wanted. Then we talked again a year later and she had genital herpes from the guy after me.

Your wife wasnt willing to make the change for you, and wouldnt have, so fuck her. Now she's literally fucking the demographic that is highest for STD's and if they impregnate her, 2 out of 3 black men dont stick around.

In a year you'll be back on your feet, and even if you're living in someones basement you'll find a bitch who wants you, and will make the effort.
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>>76804082
It's hebephilia you uncultured swine
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>>76802511
Of course it's possible. I gained 10kg in 3 weeks when I was pigging out
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>>76802423
Does love mean paying the constant medical bills for a cunt who has been larping this whole time?
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>>76802457
Total architect death
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>>76803364
Fuck. A wiser man than I once wrote
>Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks
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>>76803561
Finally a knower.
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>>76802423
Then when they finally get the message and they lose weight, they are in their mid to late 30's with less collagen in their skin so when they do lose the weight it;'s saggy and disgusting. Surgery can;t fix it. Nothing can fix it.

>My wife went from 50kg to 95kg in 5 years then back down to 60kg and now has large flaps of saggy skin everywhere.
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>>76802531
I know this feeling, friend.

I could be fucking the brains out of skinny Asian girls but I promised I would spend the life with this woman, even if she becomes a jabba the hutt. But finding excuses to not fuck her more then once every few months is getting hard bros
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thanks for the reads fellas
feeling gratitude for the divorce from my former hamplanet
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>>76803364
i still don't get the terrorism /fit/ gets. people literally come on this board to try to demoralize people every single day for decades.
i didn't understand bullying when i was young, but i do now.
you are people who hate people who are simply trying. literally crabs. i wish i could punch your face until your skull caves in.
you're losers because you don't even try, and attack people who do try. i want you raped to death, all limbs cut off and just used as a living fleshlight for the rest of your life.
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>recent ex was getting fatter
I'll give it a few months but I do hope she loses weight or she's never gonna find someone else to give her kids.

As for me, how the fuck do you keep your gf/wife not fat?
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>>76805633
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>>76805656
see >>76802832
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You marry someone that you know. Aka you should already know that they enjoy working out and what their motivations are (if that's important to you).
My wife just likes working out. I don't need to tell her to do it, or force her to eat healthy. We're also not autistic about it and will enjoy a drink and a treat-me meal when we're in the mood.
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>>76805672
not a redditor
i just hate you fucking crabs losers, i hope you kill yourself
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>>76805693
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>>76802423
Literally just told my wife she was getting fatter and that of she cares about me being a sexually satisfied man who isn't interested in other women, she'd work on her body for me. She'd put in little bouts of effort now and then but never for more than a month straight without me pushing. She was content to be "not fat" until about 6 months ago when I literally just said, "Look, my love, you know me. You know my loyalty, my priorities. We've been through this and that. We've grown stronger in x ways. This relationship is an amazing, time-tested, fulfilling thing, the most meaningful thing in my life. ...also, literally every woman everywhere has a hotter ass than you and you know it."

Denial stopped being possible and she's been progressively overloading split squats, pistol squats, and Cossack squats for months now.

Man up and say what you think. If she can't handle that, she's neither a partner or an equal.
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If you haven't made it clear how much physical / sexual attraction matters to you by the time you're getting married you already fucked up. Maybe you just didn't realize it, because you really loved that person. You still get that one last chance of being brutally honest and letting her know that you will leave her if she doesn't get in shape again. You can even offer making some positive changes yourself in exchange if they really make you a better man. I missed out on that last chance, because I just cheated on her and wanted the relationship to end anyway, but I probably could have saved it with more honesty, and if not, the outcome would've been the same.
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>>76805708
Edit:
I said more than that.
>I appreciate you for x, y, and z.
>I enjoy every minute and I've never regretted this relationship for a moment.
>I respect you more as time goes by. You've come so far and you're more competent and capable than you ever were.
Etc. We have a good thing. We go out of our way to show we think about eachother. Food is always ready when the other is coming home. Whatever it is.

But, also, as I told her, I got sick of her bony ass pelvis stabbing my pelvic floor and 12 years of sex with the same woman was too long without her growing any curves.

She listened and has shown months of consistent effort now. All I'm saying.
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>>76805708
>Man up and say what you think. If she can't handle that, she's neither a partner or an equal.

>>76805725
>more honesty

>>76805730

thanks for these posts
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>>76802423
>ugly slop slag
>less sloppy slag
>slampig slag
Here's your solution: Marry women that present themselves respectably and not like actual sex workers or circus clowns.
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You make it clear beforehand
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>>76805704
There's someone out there for you, too.

Me and my wife started out relationship when we went on a trip together. The day before we went there she stayed with me at my hotel and we went to the gym. Good start.
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>>76802423
>Realizes marriage is a life long commitment
>Abides by the idea of no way out
>"Im not trapped you, you're trapped with me"
What happens when you're not Chad and have been settled for.
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>>76802423
just break up lol i have seven girlfriends, six of them are 10/10 German blondes.
what moved me to not give a shit anymore was my first wife who gave birth to my first son
she wasn't beautiful to begin with and then just got fat
she always was a downer too
unsuccessful self hating anxious people only hold you back
go far away from everyone, especially women, who don't take care of themselves
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>>76802423
When you marry you're supposed to look hot for your wife/husband, so this is a break of the marriage vows.
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>>76805775
why did you marry her in the first place and did you vet her properly? Just for the looks?
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incel here, explain to me how marriage works, why didn't he keep beating her until she start doing what he wants or divorce him?
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>>76805787
she was a virgin and part of the same orthodox church as me so i thought it's a trad marriage and everything is going to be as planned and it started that way, but i soon realized, that she literally just exists
complete passive, no will to live
no passion, nothing
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>>76805801
Well why didn't you get church counselling by the priests? Ortho churches seem to stick to normal gender roles. And why did you fail to lead her as the leader of your household? Sounds like you need to do some self-knowledge work yourself, do not put all the blame on her, very feminine.

Sounds like you completely failed to vet her properly. Did you even take pre-marriage counseling with a priest what to expect from marriage? I feel mostly sorry for your son who has such a rough start growing up in a broken household, you are supposed to do what's best for your child, they are helpless.
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>>76805810
because i realized you're all slaves to some manmade religion
ever since i broke free of this spell i feel joy 24/7
with multiple perfect looking women by my side, beautiful children, we get stopped everywhere and people adore us
you can't save weak people
it's just genetics
she was virgin for a reason
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>>76805816
I hope this is bait for your own sake, being a hedonist is pathetic and living like a debased animal breaking up your family like that. You are no better than a troon.
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>>76805801
This happened to me too. We waited two years for marriage. Excepted a tradwife, and after our first, she turned into a woman who just sits around and does nothing every day while I'm working my ass off. Absolutely sick of her making the house a total mess and living in filth.

One of my ex's got in touch with me and her house was immaculate and she took good care of herself and dressed nicely. Found so much motivation to push forward with my life goals, realised my wife doesn't inspire me or support me at all. Made me question everything. I'd just gotten used to mediocre and somebody who doesn't even try and accepted it as normal.

>>76805775
Based.
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>>76805827
see, you have manmade terms in your head, i just trust my God given instincts
you're a loser who believes in what other people tell him more, than what your own mind tells you
you're enslaved
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>>76802531
/thread

This is why finding a woman who was raised with exceptional character is really your only option. You’ll see that men are happiest in societies where striking women is permissible but unnecessary. Nobody actually wants to have to constantly threaten and rebuke somebody to get civil behavior out of them but the threat needs to be present, enforced, and accepted as give and take. Mine literally nags nonstop. I don’t know what else to do. I watch our kids full time and work less than 25 hours a week to produce a full time income (contracting) so she can work 50+ hours a week at a desk job and avoid all home responsibilities for literally half my pay. It makes no sense from anyone’s perspective but hers and the minute I come home everything I do is treated like an inconvenience or praised and then “playfully” critiqued. She can never JUST say “thanks for dinner”, or “thanks for doing the laundry”. It’s always followed by “next time you could use a little less salt” or “the kids pajamas don’t fold that way but I’ll show you next time”. I haven’t touched video games, had a beer with friends, or left the house, by myself, for a social occasion for years and it’s all because I had unprotected sex with a psycho princess.

Ironically, if the threat of hitting her were present I wouldn’t feel the impulse to dive on her and mercilessly strangle and pound her hah visage to a pulp 3times a day. I haven’t willingly laid down on her in 5 years and our kids are absolute spoiled brats because their father hasn’t the slightest bit of authority and their mother will give them anything to keep them quiet for a few minutes.

Just keep lifting. Don’t touch a woman unless you would happily suffer this kind of misery every day for love of her, because that is exactly what you might be signing up for.
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>>76802423

Cheat on her with men like a normal person
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>>76805829
yeah, i feel like I'm aflame with motivation 24/7 because of how beautiful and inspiring my new women and children are
i could barely take care of myself and my ex wife and one child back then
now i do not fear anything and i push through every hardship easily
i also thought i had ed because i could barely fuck her
now i can fuck them all in a single day
it's insane what difference the people you surround yourself with make
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>>76805837
>She can never JUST say “thanks for dinner”, or “thanks for doing the laundry”. It’s always followed by “next time you could use a little less salt
This hits close to home. Mine doesn't even say thanks.
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>>76802531
because women are more natural than men
men you can easily brainwash and give them religion and laws
women pretend to follow them but their instincts win
just be natural
impregnate the most beautiful women you can and enjoy life
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>>76805827 look at:
>>76805837
this is what awaits you if you're religious
we had so very many men in the church who were like this
suffering because of their faith that something is gonna happen if they pray
just remove these people from your life and don't EVER associate with losers
losers will drag you down and ruin your life
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>>76805827
This is a naive point of view. I always resented my father for leaving but my experience made me understand he was completely right for doing so. A miserable father in a shitty marriage isn't much of a father either. Why ruin two lives? Because society says so? Lol. Fuck society, fuck normalfags, fuck social expectations. I'm here for one life, this is my life.
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>>76805841
Too relatable. Keep living your best life, brother.
>it's insane what difference the people you surround yourself with make
That being the average of 5 people thing really do be true. Your girl is a huge part of that. Make sure she's a winner.
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>>76805837
You should turn her inside out ha ha
Seriously though you should probably just hit her

>>76805844
Women don't like to feel indebted. This is why it's better to ask her for things than to do things for her
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Men that complain about their wives is just a public IQ check.
>bla bla she ended up boring
>wife fat
>we waited two years
This is how everyone knows you're a retard. People snicker behind your back. Not because of your wife--because of you.
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>>76805963
you must be really fat to know the sweet just by its sound
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>>76802545
>>76805450
The jewality of man.
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>>76805970
>another idiot failing to converse in English
I swear these retards are too stupid to even attempt google translate
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>married an adult woman
>year later im married to whiny, spoiled child in a body of overweight woman who straight up refuse to work on herself
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>>76806034
newfag detected
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>>76802423
y’all need to get married first LOL
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>>76802423
Did we have children on this scenario?
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>>76802423
Withdraw from her financially in equal measure. "If you really loved me, it shouldn't matter how much I earn".
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>>76806040
What the fuck is this post. I genuinely hope you're a weirdo making a terrible attempt at humor instead of a 67 iq brown who thinks he's on twitter.
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>>76806122
NTA but do you think the average guy here even has the option of getting married?
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promote peace and its nice to see japanese east asian men fuck blonde white girls, brunette white girls, ebony black girls, ginger white girls, asian girls, brown girls, latina girls, mixed race girls, and etcc
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>>76802424
That's not a ship, that's a fucking aircraft carrier.
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>>76802423
depends, has she been bred yet? if not, then leave
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>>76805862
>That being the average of 5 people thing really do be true.
What are you talking about?
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>>76802511
If you can't gain weight, you're eating too much protein and not enough carbs/fat
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>>76802531
>You have no power over women at all
How low is your IQ?
All that reading and you never read the phrase "social engineering"?
Anyone can be manipulated, it's the only way shitty corporations persist
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>>76803363
>Comparing any woman to the greatest woman of all time
It's like comparing yourself to Ronnie Coleman
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>>76805810
>>76805827
This post was most definitely written by a woman, or a very young, naïve and fervent religious man
I am religious too, very devout and go to Church weekly, but I am also no fool on the nature of women. Do you sincerely think, given that you are not a woman yourself, that women are equal to men, and able to take accountability for their own shortcoming instead of blaming everyone and everything else?
Let me explain something elemental to you. Men are biologically hard-wired to take responsibility. We are made to develop competence and abilities through competition, by way of play, and to then take charge when we are the most competent and capable people around. If something goes wrong, that's on us. The buck stops with us, so we better make damn sure things go well. Almost every single culture that has ever existed on the face of the Earth has had initiation rituals to test how far along his development a boy was, and to declare him a man if he was competent enough.
Women are not so. They become women through 0 effort of their own. They do not compete, at least not directly. They do not work hard to make the transition from girls to women. Nature hands it to them for free. Their task is to decide how to spend their capital, not to build it up. This is why the essence of femininity is liberal. I digress.
Because the process of adulthood is a passive, non-involved process, women's mentality reflects this. They are biologically hard-wired to reject accountability and responsibility. They reject duty. They can barely handle being loyal. They can barely handle not stuffing their face with garbage 24/7 and ballooning up to morbid obesity. They are like little children mentally.
Now this has been understood for millennia by men, and this would be all fine and dandy if we didn't live in a gynocentric society that hoists women to the same unearned and unnatural status of equality with men.
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>>76806200
>cont.
Women by nature seek resistance. They want a man who can tell them "no". Picture living in a house. How do you test the strength of the walls to make sure the roof doesn't cave in on you one day? You push against the walls. If they give, that's a sign you need to GTFO.
Women naturally push men to test their mental and social strength.
One small issue. It is today ILLEGAL to stand firm and resist a woman's push. The law, which is far above the means of a single average guy to meaningfully contend with, will come and fuck you up the ass if you resist this push. Women, by virtue of the special relationship and status they enjoy from men, and the judicial equality they are given by the State, have social power that is far, far greater than their male counterpart.
Any means our ancestors would have had to correct and discipline women's childish behaviour has been made illegal.
"Be a leader". That's illegal.
"You failed as a man." It's illegal to be a man, an ACTUAL man, and not its modern, pathetic ersatz that serves as little more than a slave to women's whims.
"Seek counsel in the Church." The religious establishments are totally dominated by women. They are NOT sanctuaries for actual traditional gender roles.
Modern society has made the very idea of marriage untenable, and the trends reflect this. More divorces, less marriages.
Women getting fat, letting themselves go and not caring is only the bud on the tip of the branch on the tree that is modernity. It is a symptom of modern times emancipating women to the point that they totally dominate the social order, and men have 0 recourse to enact their will on the world (read: women, who are a personification of the natural world).
Your view on things will only net you a failed marriage, bitter divorce, or worse yet, a life of servitude, spent serving some broad's delusional nesting instincts like a worker ant foraging its fingers to the bone for the childish desires of an underserving creature.
Wake up.
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>>76806040
Oooooo got 'im
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>>76802423
If your wife isn’t submissive to you, and does exactly wish you tell her to, then you are not in a masculine frame. When you lead your woman properly, she does as you say, and she is happy to do so. When men fall into their feminine energy, women will let themselves go, usually becoming fat. This is almost always the man’s fault, for being a spineless cuck of a man
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>>76805608
she just didn't drink enough water and lost too quickly. oops. sucks to be married to a retard I guess lol
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>>76806171
you are the average of the 5 people you most often interact with
so if you interact with 5 losers all the time, you're a loser yourself
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>>76802423
Ok now show what he looks like
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>>76806208
>when a nigger whose never been with a woman watches one manosphere video by a mullatto grifter
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>>76806034
Lurk more fag
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>>76806038
>another brainlet's first year on 4chan
Don't worry, Timmy. You'll get used to it.
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>>76806115
Doesn't work when you're married. You can cut her off, but she can still get to the assets in divorce. Well I guess you can put everything in XMR which is honestly a good strategy.

Even with an airtight and enforced prenup, you still split assets owned and income earned DURING the marriage.
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>>76806200
>>76806204
Good posts anon
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This is what happens when bitches think they've got you trapped, and she'll never change. Too late for that anyway; that skin isn't going to tighten up enough had she lost all the weight. She already burned through the best years you'd have ever had with her.
You've got time to do things strategically.
>liquidate everything you can that doesn't give you away, gradually. If ever questioned, "why'd you sell your jet ski", etc. it's because you're saving up to get "us" that forever home we can raise a family or whatever.
>Put it all in crypto. Have a trusted friend/family move that money onto the exchanges and get it off of there into your own wallets that you hold the keys to without ever being tied to any of your legacy banking accounts.
>Could say you gambled it and spent it all on hookers and blow behind your wife's back for all she could likely prove in court, and the money sure as fuck won't be in any bank that's probed. Can always "lose" the keys if discovered as well; what a tragedy; it's what sent you on this downward spiral.
>sell the house, so you can move into a bigger nicer house since your new promotion.
>Promotion? Nah, you quit that job, but you've got to move out of state for the super duper promotion.
>move to a shitty trailer, with bullshit lot rent for the lolz, 0% down on the mortgage, in a state that's not going to fuck you increasing alimony after the divorce when you get back to your normal line of work.
>work some wagie gig in the new state to establish current income that year.
>you could file for divorce first, but she'd soon enough file herself after the decreased standard of living she's presented with; good chance to throw the "If you really loved me it shouldn't matter how much I make" line back at her fatass. Plus "he's broke" being the reason stated to her lawyers, and in court if she's stupid enough, only plays into your credibility that you don't secretly have 500k on the block chain.
Play the long game, like she did with you.
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>>76803195
>image
Fucking based.
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>>76806314
only around 10% of divorces involve paying alimony.
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fag board. i fuck all your wives
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>>76806314
Please, don't pay attention to the wild schizos. They get a little wild sometimes.
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>>76806271
God invented gambling for a reason.
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>>76806271
>you still split assets owned and income earned DURING the marriage
I suppose you're posting from North Korea. In the civilized world, you split posessions n asserts n savings according to what you brought in the case of a divorce.
But you sound like you wanna take the hard earned monety of a rich girl's dad.
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>>76802443
Pretty much this
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>>76802423
Adios muchacha
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>>76805837

My marriage improved tremendously when I accepted that the woman I married was basically an evil clone who had killed and replaced my girlfriend (metaphorically, for you autists). It was like any notion of respectful or loving treatment died the next day. Even our honeymoon was married by a random bitchfest. My wife later admitted she was bitching over nothing and had no reason to be mad. Not that she apologized, unless you count "I was tipsy" as an apology.

It's not healthy or happy. But it's functional to accept my wife is a hostile party in my household with whom I sometimes have adequate sex. A few years in I realized she wasn't just being so bitchy and disrespectful because she lacked self-control or empathy, or because circumstances were difficult. She had been wonderful right up until the wedding, so she has the capacity to at least fake those good qualities well enough to fool me. What I realized is that she actually disagrees with the basic premise that she ought to treat her husband at least as well as she treats a stranger. The moment she no longer had to, she stopped.

My fault for marrying a woman with divorced parents. If I had known the full story about how her mother treated her father, I would have run. She's doing exactly what she was taught. So check on your girlfriend's parents. Get to know them well enough to see them behave naturally together. If she has a good mother, then your girlfriend will follow her example (and your mother in law will have your back when she doesn't).
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>>76806516
This is why you don't marry and beat tradcucks who say you need to with your belt. They can't fight you until they get their balls from their wife's purse anyway.
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>>76806516
auto-redirect: >>76805963
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>>76806597
>They can't fight you until they get their balls from their wife's purse anyway.
kek
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>>76802423
Pound that fat bitch doggy while plunging two fingers in her asshole, three knuckle deep. That "what you do"

Demand a blow job every Saturday morning while you jiggle her tots and belly from the side, that's "what you do"

Bring home take out for her. Dont take her out. Thats "what you do."

Faggots around here...
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>>76802823
Same, but I'm probably coping hard.
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>>76806711
Based. I would do the same. She still has a cute face and good genetics.
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>>76806314
You started off ok then spiraled into retardation. Why destroy your own life and career just to make her divorce you? Just do it yourself you pussy.

Throw everything in XMR, say you lost it on shitcoin roulette. Bury your keys or give them to a trusted friend. Don't nuke your entire life like an idiot.
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>>76806349
I don't believe that
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>>76806857
he's right. alimony is not the payment most guys get saddled with its child support alimony is a rare payout
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>>76806407
>says he lives in the civilized world
>talks like this
>>you split posessions n asserts n savings
That's why I mentioned a prenup you buffoon. A well structured prenup protects your assets from BEFORE marriage. What you own that is co-mingled, acquired while together, or earned while together is split.

Easy example: I have $100k in assorted investments before marriage. I have a house with $100k left on the mortgage. I get married, divorced 5 years later. During that 5 years we have $100k in a different brokerage account and various bank accounts. We sell the house, pay off mortgage. She and I split the proceeds from the house less the remaining mortgage. We split the new $100k in investments/cash accounts. My original $100k of investments is still mine, plus any growth, as long as I didn't continue to contribute to it during the marriage.

Trust me, I'm correct on this (in most states anyhow). I did significant research on how to structure this and what happens to comingled assets when I was thinking of proposing. I held off because she was getting fat, then broke up later because she got quite fat.

>But you sound like you wanna take the hard earned monety of a rich girl's dad.
First, it's money you ESL retard. Second, how would that even work? It's the dad's stuff not hers. Third, that sounds fucking awesome and yes I would if given the chance. I've always been great with parents and they love me. Their daughter is where I fall short.
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>>76806516
>What I realized is that she actually disagrees with the basic premise that she ought to treat her husband at least as well as she treats a stranger. The moment she no longer had to, she stopped.
>My fault for marrying a woman with divorced parents. If I had known the full story about how her mother treated her father, I would have run
Sorry for you anon. Hang in their man.

This is excellent advice though. I bailed on my GF partially because the longer we stayed together the more of her mother I noticed in her. Her parents had a shit relationship. You can't even fix them from that.
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>>76806880
>in most states anyhow
What country do you live in? Russia or Mexico, I assume? Unless you're actually from NK, but then I doubt you'd be on this board.
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>>76802423
It's somewhat convincing to me that trying to make someone not fat is more difficult than making someone stop using recreational substances.
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>>76802423
im not in a relationship but everytime a woman lets themselves go the man is also usually overweight

is it true that if the man lost weight, the woman would eventually follow?
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>>76806954
not necessarily my aunts are all cows and their husbands are all relatively slim
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>>76802511
The secret is sugar and other processed carb/fatty snacks. A 2oz bag of chips is almost 300 calories. 12oz bottle of milk is 230. If you're trying to gain on healthy food it's actually kinda hard.
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>>76806857
not only is alimony rarely awarded, in most cases it lasts only a few years so only 1 in 500 of men in the US are paying alimony at any given time. it's just that one guy can't stop bitching about it.
solution? don't marry bums.
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>>76806986
I'm from Kentucky and the hillbillies come in two types. Real hefty cornfed guys with the nickname Bubba, and the rail thin type that somehow still chugs mountain dew and can lift twice as much as you. Both of these types always have wives that are bigger than them.
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>>76805837
>work less than 25 hours a week to produce a full time income (contracting) so she can work 50+ hours a week at a desk job and avoid all home responsibilities for literally half my pay

That hits close to home. My friend is that woman while her husband makes double her wage with a 1.5yr old at home.
She brings work home with her ALL the TIME and it's killing her marriage.
They can easily afford her to stay home full time with some downsizing.

It's pathetic how Western women are so desperate to chase superficial shallow things over their own family
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>>76803067
I can't imagine her going from a 9/10 to 5/10 with just weight gain. You're leaving a lot of crucial details out.
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When I lost my job and started making dogshit money doing freelance stuff, and the money wasn't working out, I was panicking like fuck. Debt rising in my name. Etc.
Then I woke up and realized how much of a fucking psycho my wife was and that the divorce would easily result in about 0 alimony. Huge blessing in disguise because now I'm free from a fucked up work situation and I'm free from my ex wife. Not as fit related because she didn't get fat, she just turned into a bed rotter that went out of her way to consume and regurgitate the most stressful content she could find. And started continuous drama with her family and chimped out when I didn't 'support her'. And more.
One of the last straws was when I was feeling really down and depressed and just needed some alone time. I curled up in a blanket and laid down on the floor since it made me feel better. I just needed some darkness and a warm feeling for a bit so I could get back up and get back to work. But she came in, with my phone, and recorded video of herself laughing at me while I was curled up. Made me realize the woman I'd been sacrificing my health and sanity for didn't love me. She didn't give a fuck about me. It's sad to think that I loved so much and she didn't, and was more than happy to humiliate me. She still thinks it was funny, and not fucked up. She still hasn't apologized for it. I see the photos on my camera roll sometimes and it reminds me why I decided to be done.
I feel sad because I really thought for a while that if I loved and if I acted nobly that she'd at least see some of it. But now she's only improving herself and taking care of herself because I left. She's also being much kinder and rational. It's a shame, because I know there's some women out there that would see me for who I am and what I'm willing to do for the family, but I don't feel like risking it again, and don't want to give myself to anyone in that capacity anymore.
I'd rather fuck noncommittally, and die alone.
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>>76806894
What country has states you dumb nigger? I'm correct and you've provided nothing to the contrary.
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>>76807080
not everyone is a chubby chaser, Ernesto
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>>76806865
>>76807009
Huh alright. I don't know a ton of divorced guys but the couple I do had to pay alimony on top of child support. They all were/are pretty high earners so maybe that's it.
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>>76807082
>that one nigga that nuked his marriage cuz he couldn't take a joke
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>>76802423
Keep feeding her
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>>76807146
well 10% is still 1 in 10 it's not nothin' but still not common for most divorcees
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>>76807146
If there's a big difference in earnings between spouses, there will probably be alimony. That's why you don't marry down. Guys start earning a decent amount of money and they try to leverage that into marrying someone much more attractive. It's generally not a good idea to have a big imbalance of any kind in a stable marriage. Sometimes it works, but when it doesn't the wife comes out of the marriage a lot better off than she went in.
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>>76807080
NTA but it's completely believable. Let's say she's 5'4" (average US height) and weighs 130. That's smack dab in the middle for BMI. She gains 40lbs and she's at a BMI of 29, on the cusp of obese. She gains 50lbs instead of 40lbs and she's a BMI of 31 and is obese.

40lbs in a year is ~383 extra calories a day. 50lbs is ~479 calories. That's 1 sugary starbucks type coffee a day. Maybe less depending on what you get. That's a 12oz can of pop and 2-3 oreos. That's candy bar and a scoop of extra pasta at a dinner. Very easy to have a 400 calorie surplus and not realize it.
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>>76806725
Absolutely. Eventually, she'll come around and decide she wants to lose the weight. After she does, get the implants up to DD to fill out the skin. There is ZERO losing here. Also, she looks reasonably tall - start putting kids in that fat bitch.

All these princesses complaining about a fat wife - a fat wife is a good thing, not a bad thing. Put that bitch to use.
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>>76807156
lmao wish it was just like that. It'd be easier to deal with the long term disillusionment, certainly an easier cross to bear.
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>>76806954
Yes. I was fat my wife was not fat, but just kind of out of shape. I got lean and jacked, she became insecure and then she got awesome muscle mommy fit, and now we are both lean, fit, gorgeous and still in love.

I think the man has to get jacked and lean. I started to get a LOT of attention from people for being very muscular and lean. Just "thin" isn't going to burn that fear of losing him deep into her wicked soul.
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>>76807080
Semi relevant pic. It's really easy to add a couple hundred calories despite not "eating more food"
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>>76807210
>a fat wife is a good thing, not a bad thing. Put that bitch to use.
>t someone who isn't married and doesn't have a fat wife
You'll be judged by everyone you ever meet together, especially if you aren't fat yourself. A fat wife brings you down. More importantly how are you going to "put her to work". She's fat because she's lazy and has bad habits. What do you think she's going to do with kids? She'll instill the same laziness and same bad habits.

A fat mom that's 40-50 years old but has kids out of elementary school is fine. A chick that's fat before she's even pregnant is going to raise fat kids and that's just cruel to the kids.
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>>76806208
post body
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Why don't you guys just do active things together like hiking, skiing or rollerskating together so date night also doubles as getting physical activity? Make fitness part of what brings you together rather than being complacent.
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>>76807405
You've clearly never been around one of these women. Their laziness is unmatched there's a reason they get fat and it isn't because you didn't happen to offer them to go on a cute hike that would magically peel their glued asses from the couch and go get fit

These women stop living aside from eating, talking about food, getting food, and screen time
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>implying marriage
all women are whores
your wife is a whore
just not for you
i'll continue fucking attractive whores in their 20s who will eventually settle down and drain the resources of some sad sack of simp pathetic enough to overlook the fact that his wife and the mother of his children is a fucking whore
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>>76805810
Eve walked among God himself and still led her husband to sin. Why would this random woman be any different?
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>>76807405
Because the girls that let themselves get to looking like this will complain the whole time and make things miserable. My ex would want to go for walks together. Great. But then not even a half mile in she'd want to turn back because she's tired or her feet hurt or some other excuse.

Girls that enjoy physical activity don't let themselves get massive.
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>>76807469
Post tits, hole.
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>>76807567
>skinny women look good
Irrelevant since 75% of women are fat.
>most married men after a few years are the reason women divorce them.
>still blames men when women initiate 70% of divorce
You know the rules, hole.
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>>76807607
lol it's like seeing a time capsule post from 2015
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>>76806271
>Well I guess you can put everything in XMR which is honestly a good strateg
this
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>>76802423
Just fucking hit her you fucking pussy. It's what she wants and it's what you want to do.
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>>76802423
>I want you to be healthier and to look your best. Let’s be the best versions of ourselves, eat healthy and work out regularly!
If that fails, time to have a frank conversation, and don’t be gaslit: beauty is not skin deep, but it does include the skin. Letting herself be unhealthy and fat is not the person you want to be with.

If she still refuses, time to bail.
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>>76802531
This is why it’s not enough to pick a sexy woman. You also have to look at whether she attempts to maintain that figure. If not, she’s just lucky and as she ages/has kids etc, she will let herself go.

Nothing should scare you more than a young hot chick who says “tee hee, I hate working out”. She WILL get fat.

Same goes for the passport bros bringing their hot chicks back to the US. A lot of girls are hot in other places simply because of the diet and the walking. But in the US they won’t work out, they will eat the crap their American friends have and they WILL get fat. You gotta make sure they actually like to work out and be healthy. They should provide clear indications they value their health and beauty.
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>>76807550
While not bloating up to the same level, I've seen men absolutely hit the wall at mach speed from eating like shit and abusing weed and alcohol.
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>>76807621
>retort is literally the first one in the image
Kek called it. If you want men to be better maybe you should shame your fellow women into not being hogs
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>>76807736
Well yeah. I’m not saying they don’t. But the do fall apart with less frequency than women
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>>76807694
Only sane reply in this thread
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>>76807791
>doubles down with no argument
Again your “rebuttal” is “reeeee you won’t get to fuck a hole”. There’s more to life than hedonism.

I’ve got plenty of pussy in my life. I could have married my ex and knocked her up and she would have loved that. But she turned into a pig and I have standards.

Now, care to offer a real counter argument and not a woman argument?
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>>76807949
>Now, care to offer a real counter argument and not a woman argument?
Cool so that’s a no.

This all started because you said
>men look even worse after 2 years of marriage lmao
Then were disproved by facts. If you have something factual to counter me, I’m all ears. But we both know you don’t.
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>>76807122
Many? Australia, Brazil, Germany, India, Mexico, Nigeria just off the top off my head. If you're counting other autonomous administrative regions I can think of Russia, Canada, Japan etc.
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>>76802423
>What do you do?
Well the "love of my life" wouldn't do this so I would leave her to find the actual love of my life.

At least assuming this was a conscious decision to give up. If she got depressed or some shit I'd try to help her through it.
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>>76802423
>if you really love me it wont matter how I look
I would go to SHIT, refuse to bathe or clean myself, scatter my hair like a moron, wear horrid clothing, and get ridiculous temporary tattoos.

Show them the stupidity of such a dumbass comment.
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>you're supposed to love her no matter what she does
>but she doesn't love you enough to be sexy for you
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>>76809124
It’s two screws and it’s off
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all you need to know about fat men vs fat women is
1. the woman in the OP pic would still have a hundred Tinder matches every day, and
2. every porn site has a bbw category
women win, men lose, welcome to the 21st century.
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>>76802423
The problem isn't aesthetic, or anything related to attraction, it's a health problem. She'll be at massively higher risk to heart disease, and many other weight-related diseases. She also is much more likely to develop poor mental health because of being fat

For her own health and satisfaction in life, she must get thin again
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>>76809131
women can't solve practical problems
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>>76808723
>idiot sperging out over what should be a simple conversation
You will die alone.
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>>76802535
This guy gets it.
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>>76809131
Use torx head bolts and she’ll be stumped
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>>76808715
>deflecting this hard to avoid admitting he’s wrong
Why don’t you start talking about prenups again?
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Marriage is fattening.
Divorce is the only successful diet to lose marriage fat.
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>>76802423
just get fat yourself, it will speed up the process that ends in her eventually leaving you for BBC anyway
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>>76802423
I hate fat people, but im currently dating a woman who has a PERFECT amount of fat and muscle. If she gained and ballooned up my calculations point to her being very plappable. God, her pussy is so fucking tight and sensitive, i love borderline raping her, and she does too. WAGMI
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>>76802423
lock her in the basement
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>>76803195
>image
yet she got permanent ink graffiti instilled on her flesh? i'd say her opinion is overlaid by making retarded vain choices like that just as much as a fatty's is by their retarded dietary choices.
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>>76807469
Found the woman
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>>76802511
Yes. Most have fucked up hormones from birth control and then gorge themselves on sugar and fat with 0 exercise. It stacks FAST and I stopped having sex with my wife because of this. I'm sure she'll figure something out, or leave me. I'm happy with either at this point
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>>76802423
Gaining that huge amount of fat, certainly her hormones have been affected, therefore her brain function, she is no longer the same woman you married.
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>>76809481
>brainlet cope
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>>76805633
You couldn't be more right, and that's why the board and the rest of the site in general are dead. Bad moderation combined with literal tranny discord raid servers and demoralization bots from world governments are what killed it
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>>76805708
This is exactly the right answer, and it's not even hard to figure this out, but the weak men in this thread would rather cry into the void than show a little backbone and confront their wives (second mothers) that might start respecting them if they did
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Help your gf. Be there for her
No one sane turns into that
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>>76802423
I honestly don't know. I'm a sucker and bad at getting other people to do things I want so I'd probably either put up with it (if we have children) or divorce.
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Sad to see that a lot of the anecdotes ITT also match what I’ve seen from my social circle. Seeing the marriages my friends are in and it’s universally dire. I haven’t seen one relationship where I envy my friend for dealing with the insane amount of bullshit American women carry. The “””best””” wives in my social circle is a fat polish woman who at least popped out 2 kids and has no tattoos (but has a very caustic personality, getting into fights with my friend daily) and a Chinese woman who is skinny and fit but wants to delay children until she’s 40 since climbing the corporate ladder is very important to her (she’s 31, with a masters, and only making 60k). I don’t envy my married friends at all minus the children they have - I want to have a happy family of my own and I literally have the $$$ and house to do it, but I can’t stand 99% of women now outside of a quick nut. Yes I go to church regularly, but these church girls are basic bitches wearing the badge of “Christian”, rather than actually trying to follow what Christ said. And despite what I said earlier, I haven’t used a woman as a cumdump in three years because I am trying to follow Christ. I like to fantasize that there’s a woman out that does try to be a good Christian (obv not seeking perfection, but orientation). Ultimately, gluttony and slothfulness are sins, so I hope there’s a woman out there for me that practices what she preaches. I have met women that seem to have depth and almost certainly wouldn’t get fat after marriage/kids, but they have all been 35-45 years old which is sadly too old for my desire of wanting to have 4+ kids.
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>>76811809
Go ahead, point out exactly what was wrong with what I said? It’s your chance to shine, prove me wrong.
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>>76811303
Good point. I’ll add that she almost certainly got on or off birth control which aggressively fucks with hormones.

I can’t put into words how much I hate jews for ruining women with birth control.
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>>76805695
>crab
If you deal with jews enough on this site you'll recognise that the above post was a cuck fetish. Kikes love them.
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>>76807037
gotta be eastern kentucky right, its the same in wv
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>>76802423
Imagine being married to a guy who depresses you so much that you gain 100 lbs.
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>>76802423
You should never allow your woman to become comfortable in the first place, make her feel loved but also remind her that she can be replaced whenever you want
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>>76802531
Same man, I've gonna through the exact same shit and I will never put up with it again. If a girl starts getting fat I'm going to make damn sure she knows I'm not attracted to that.
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>>76802423
She would look better if she just bought some new pyjamas.
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>>76805708
>without me pushing
Nigger she's a woman, she wants you to push her
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>>76805837
>so she can work 50+ hours a week at a desk job
This is the problem, you give her plenty of cash, but you aren't giving her the life her body craves. 50+ hours of male-style office bullshit is stressing her out and killing her ovaries.

>avoid all home responsibilities
That's not how women work, women are made for home responsibilities, and they love nothing more than spending time with their children if they haven't been pozzed. All of your problems seem to stem from the fact that your wife wastes 50+ hours a week serving a man who isn't you.
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>>76807702
>Nothing should scare you more than a young hot chick who says “tee hee, I hate working out”. She WILL get fat.
weight is 99% diet, 1% activity.
if anything athletic chicks tend to get fatter because being active gets them used to eating big. then they stop working out but keep eating big.

every woman I know who didn't get fat with age is only moderately active if even that, but they all watch what they eat. on the flip side, things to look out for imo (red flags):
>any masculine behavior, be it tattoos, smoking, partying, rougher sports
>drinks soda / consumes sugary crap in general
>already chubby or used to be (if you can find old pictures of her)
women who meet any of these criteria are almost guaranteed to blow up before they even hit 30.

the number one green flag:
>her mom didn't get fat



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