High blood pressure, how bad is it really?It seems to be very bad and one of the biggest contributors for early death and serious health issues like stroke, kidney and heart failure and MMy gp almost had a meltdown when I rejected to take pills to address the problem on the grounds of me being still in my 30s and them not being able to actually find the reason for the HBP other than "genetics".That said I want to throw the kitchen sink at this shit so please give me some advice on what to do, I don't smoke, drink booze or coffee, I run 3x a week and will start fasting and try to fix my diet since although I'm not fat 180 @5'10 I'm somewhat heavy and eat lots of sugary garbage.Thanks.
Same situation here. Bp is normally 160/110 then goes into 180/120 when I'm stressed which is always, but "you're too young for bp meds" even though I'm a healthy weight and eat relatively clean.
>>76803863>180 @5'10You're overweight. All you need to do is stop eating sugary garbage.
>>76803863The biggest threat is increased risk of stroke. You can fix it through weight loss. Check out a supplement called rawolfia in place of pharmaceuticals. A daily childs aspirin is good too.
>>76803863> how bad is it really?You can literally have a crisis and die before medical help can arrive. Take the fucking pills moron.
>>76803876Holy cow pretty much the exact same value, I thought it was white coat anxiety but I get the same readings at home.My gp was adamant on prescribing me pills despite my age. >>76803888I had the same problem when I was a 15yo twink and got yearly physicals for sports.>>76803889>increased risk of stroke"if you get a stroke at 40 I hope you die, but you likely won't and will become a burden on others". This was what my gp told me.
>>76803914If I start taking pills at 33 I'll be taking 10 pills a day by the time I'm 50. >Some common side effects of high blood pressure medicines include:>Cough.>Diarrhea or constipation.>Dizziness or lightheadedness.>Erection problems.>Feeling nervous.>Feeling tired, weak, drowsy, or a lack of energy.>Headache.>Nausea or vomiting.
>>76803863If its that high and you already run you probably actually need the meds. Losing weight will probably help some. You can try taking more potassium, walnuts, and garlic but it probably won't do too much. First thing they tell most people to do is lose weight and then cut your salt. Lowering your salt won't lower your BP that much, its like 5-8 points. More short intense cardio sessions (like a few minutes of intervals) and a lot more potassium helped me. I shoot for a 3-4:1 ratio of potassium to salt instead of the 2:1.
>>76803863practice deep breathes
>>76803863>eat lots of sugary garbage.stop doing this. if you can't do that then at least eat some fiber every morning to try to counteract some of the damage. you don't have to give it up entirely just have sugar on special occasions and don't make it a central part of your diet.
>>76803933My grandparent is 91 and he has the same complaints. Tough it up faggot, or you can risk an early grave I guess.
>>76803863>>76803876Try ashwagandha brah
>>76803975Thanks man.
>>76803863The fact you're coming to 4chan for medical advice tells me its over for you, plus the webm. You are going to die from being a poltard.And yes BP meds won't actually save you from the consequences of high BP. Increase your potassium intake. The RDA is IIRC 3500-5000 MG. Get it from potatoes, leafy greens, fruit, fruit juice.
>>76803863>I rejected to take pills to address the problem on the grounds of me being still in my 30s and them not being able to actually find the reason for the HBP other than "geneticsyou're a fucking retard.
>>76803933>If I start taking pills at 33 I'll be taking 10 pills a day by the time I'm 50.ffs you're a stupid one.If you dont take the pills you'll be needing more when your 50 if you live that long>>Some common side effects of high blood pressure medicines include:no they're not common. And if you get side effects, get this - you can stop taking them and try a different med. Wow imagine that will ya
>>76803863>>76803876First thing you have to do is to mix 2parts of a table salt (natrium chloride) with 1 part of potassium chloride. Start using the mix instead of a table salt. You shouldn't supplement potasium as a stand alone supplement as it can fuck you up. You should consume it with food. If you eat junk food, stop and start cooking yourself. Most of hbp cases are just electrolite disbalances, mostly deficiency of K and Mag. Take magnesium supplement for a good measure. If yiu get too much of it, your body will just get rid of it. Magnesium busglycinate would be the best for you.Without enough potassium your muscles in the arteries turn into bone cells. K reverses that. Mag relaxes your cardiovascular system.The other important thing is nitric oxide. For that you need a beneficial bacteria in your mouth to turn nitrates into nitrites (so stop using mouthwash) ans rich in nitrates foods. Just one caution with nitrate rich foods. They often have a high content of oxalates. So consume them with calcium rich foods to prevent kidney stones. And prioritize high in nitrates, low in oxalates foods like arugula over high in oxalates like spinach. Nathan bryan has a lot of info on this topic.These two fixes alone will do more than any pill available.>>76805248>>76805265You both are fucking retards. High bp is a solved issue while yhe official medicine refuses to accept that and still prescribes harmful drugs. Didn't you ever wonder why animals don't get hypertension? Like ever?
>>76803863Do some hard runs once a week if you arent last the point of heart issues, hard lifting is also good but seriously dont keep it high and push it unless youre healthy.
>>76803863Uh eat more fish and keep the saturated fat to consistent like once a week each for butter steak eggs etc
lol just take the lowest effective dose so you don't die thirty years early. Hypertension will fucking wreck you
>>76805488Based forbidden knowledge anon. Will look into that. Thanks bro.>>76805496I run intervals like every two weeks, today is supposed to de 1 minute repeats. Running isn't the problem.>>76805541>30 years early Is HBP really a death sentence? I seem fine, blood markers are normal and EKG, stress test, kidney Doppler came fine last time I did that (4y ago).
>>76803863>My gp almost had a meltdown when I rejected to take pills to address the problem on the grounds of me being still in my 30s and them not being able to actually find the reason for the HBP other than "genetics".What pills? Statins? You should go to his house and kill his family in front of him.
>>76804026You are such a dumb bitch. Stop commenting. >Just take the heckin pharma pills meant for old sick people! I would do it cause I suck!
Check your endo system and kidneys first. Nebivolol is relatively free of side effects. This shit can indeed be retarded genes from your fucking parents.
>>76803863You need to take medication until you lose weight>>76803876There are new hypertension guidelines, you need meds, use telehealth if you have to. Callondoc or telyrx are both good and cheap
>>76805744Not really forbidden. Every health influencer constanly share infor about how effective potassium is for lowering a bp. Tyere are many quality studies showing it. Just the official medicine doesn't recognize that supplements can do anything... which is insanely retarded stand.And for nitric oxide, there was an insane craze about nitrates in meat (they double the chance of an extremely unlikely caner). Media pushed it, despite even processed meat with nitrates not causing any increase in cancer rates if vitamin c or flavanoids added to that processed meat (meat processing compabies have to add it by law). Also veggies, especially greens containing thousands times more of those nitrates than any processed meat and people were eating those greens without any issues. We even evolved a special gland to store those nitrates and slowly excrete them in our mouth to feed the beneficial bacteria. Still, every doctor believes that nitrates are bad and should be avoided, because they were told so in a medical school.Btw, take some citrulline or eat a watermelon/melon. Your body will turn citrulline into argenine which will boost your nitric oxide as well. Your blood pressure will drop withing half an hour. But don't overdue itm too much citrulline will push out lysine, which will weaken your immune system. Or just supplement lysine in addition to citrulline. I take citrulline before the workout and it's an indlsane boost in endurance. I feel it.
>>76805961>You need to take medication until you lose weightDo you even know what medication it is? How can you say this with so little knowledge? And why would you?
How are you guys getting your potassium? I eat a banana or two a day and and an avacado. How can I get enough to help? I’m skinny but my blood pressure has been high since my dad died last year. Is it worth taking a supplement? >>76805248Is it bio available in spinach? If I cook it does the help or no?
>>76803863Elite bodyguarding genetics right there
/fit/izens with high BP are probably not being honest about their alcoholism
>>76805979Gotcha, I very much appreciate the advice. Thanks again.
>>76803921>how bad is itit's lethal, yes. You should take it very seriously and make serious changes to fix the underlying conditions expressed by it. Hopping on pills is an 'easy' fix that brings numbers down while letting your health continue to degenerate.your GP says hurtful things because she is frustrated, because she gets kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies for proscribing useless shit to you, and because she gets funding based on metrics that you've made worse for her. Just imagine how she talks to parents who don't even refuse vaccines, but want to delay them until the child is old enough to potentially describe for a jury what brain inflammation feels like.you do not have a GP. You have a drug dealer. If she didn't at least try to bargain with you, to have you take pills for a few months while you make your (rolling her eyes:) 'lifestyle changes', then she's not thinking of you at all.How would a black market drug dealer show up if you showed up and talked to him for a bit and then walked out without getting hooked on anything?I used to have constant hypertension, and now am more worried about brief bouts of low blood pressure. I lost weight, stopped eating garbage, started lifting. Fastest results were from dropping the energy drink and soda addiction.>I don't drink coffeeon this GP's advice? Caffeine constricts your blood vessels for a bit, but then relaxes them, and coffee comes with tons of benefits. Chronic hypertension is the problem, not brief bouts of it that you'll also experience while lifting a weight.>adviceSit less. Move more. Get a standing desk. Pace while thinking or doomscrolling. Get a wobble board for the standing desk.Get a home blood pressure cuff and take yours at different times of the day.For sugary garbage, get some easy vegetables, fiber, or protein and eat that first in any meal. At least take a walk immediately after eating, do even a little exercise.Magnesium citrate's best: it punishes excess.
>>76806089Enjoy your aortic dissection
>>76807023>If she didn't at least try to bargain with youShe didn't, she kept ranting about information and got salty when I said pills were just going to mitigate the symptoms and not fix the problem.>on this GP's adviceNo, I've never drank coffee, maybe a bit because I had always been told it was bad for hbp but the main reason is me not liking the taste nor needing it to go on with my day.>Standing deskAnon I'm a tradesman, I spend my day moving around a lot. Like almost 10k steps before even going for my runs.>At least take a walk immediately after eatingThis is an actual problem because although I move a lot during the day, after finishing work and going for my run I take a shower, have dinner at around 7:45pm and then just lay on bed from 8:30pm till waking up at 6:50am.
>>76803863Read peter attia - outlive and you will take the meds
>>76803863Get tested for sleep apnea, decrease sodium intake and increase potassium intake, drink more water, make sure you sleep well, avoid stimulants, find a way to manage stress, stop eating like a retard, do some walking.
