>>76805736
Have you tried putting more weight?

>>76805736
I can go until failure on horizontal leg press using only one leg at a time(I can easily max it out if i use two)

>>76805736
Drop most of that shit and do squats. Your first working weight is the maximum weight you can squat for 5 reps.
Then drop one plate off each site and do AMRAP. Keep doing this until there's only one plate left on each side.
If you really push until you can't anymore rather than until the burn gets uncomfortable in the last set, you've reached true failure.
This is the drop set strategy. You can also try clusters.

>>76805736
Nice bait

>>76805736
Let's see your huge legs and shredded 8 pack then. You do have those right?

>>76805736
High recruitment lifts are like that. You want to really take it to failure work into either a progressively smaller rom like start with a full squat then a 3/4ths then a 1/2 then a 1/4 squat. Or limit rest times a lot talking really short rests like the minimum time you need to get 5 more reps (with a 12-15 rep weight). You'll run into a much more "complete" sort of failure after. Find those grindy last reps. Then you'll be able to get there more reliably with a full set probably the next session. Willpower in this almost like a skill or knowledge you have to really know/believe absolutely that the last rep is there through testing to get your body to go there. It's not as natrual as people make it out to be, the natrual assumption should be that you're always working with one or two in reserve unless your last rep was grindy. You don't need to train like that all the time but it should be the default assumption there was indeed something left you just don't know how much until you've experienced it. You're probably going to have to do this every time you go weight in anything if you want to tap into low-volume routines.

>>76805736
You're a pussy. Simple as. Increase the weight so you're doing sets of 5-8 instead. You'll still grow fine but now you only need a few reps to hit failure

>>76805736
Can you keep going or not? If yes, you haven't gone until failure, if no, you've gone until failure. Of couse you can train any muscle to failure. What a stupid fucking thread kill yourself OP.

>>76805736
Lactic acid builds up and starts to burn, you puss out and stop before failure. Simple as.

Dorian yates talked about this, your upper body muscles have a definite failure point whereas the lower body ones just start burning but you keep grinding reps

Tbh there are very few mfs who reached failure on squats and you probably shouldn't try it

>>76807154
Right. OHP is the best example of this, because you aren’t grinding out reps. The bar either goes up or it doesn’t, and there’s no intermediate reps between being able to do another rep and failing a rep.

With squats, you can grind out a few shitty ones near the end.

Don't pussy out lmao.

it's clear that anons itt have not attempted true 10rm and 20rm squats before. lower body failure is 100% possible, and recommended

Humans are designed to use their legs until the thing they are chasing is incapable of escape.
They're not designed to do biceps curls until the thing they are chasing is incapable of escape.

>>76805736
>leg press
why not just squat

>>76807298
>lower body failure is 100% possible, and recommended

Definitely on a leg press or a hack squat machine, not on a barbell back squat unless you really really know what you're doing and have spotters and safeties. Too easy to snap your shit and once you snap your lower back you're fucked. Even an SI joint injury will put you out of commission for ages, and that's what happened to Yates iirc so he had to switch to leg press.

>>76805736
Cardio>Squats

>>76807367
>spotters AND safeties
if tou ask someone to spot you while already having safeties, Im just gonna assume you're gay

>>76805736
They're not. Just stop being a pussy.