>Who is /fat/ for?For duck draggers working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros) or LoseIt (great for both).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 1g per lb of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and burn fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body burning away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat hyper-processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gyno & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious thread: >>76807756
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Anonymous case study quiz>A patient walks into the doctors and says he wants an opinion on some behavioural abnormalities. He's bought 500$ worth of candy for the christmas season. This was during a fast where hunger pangs were at his strongest. This obsession about food and denying himself led to obessive googling and purchasing of junk food. Said subject claims it gives him a sense of power and control having his purchased goodsin the house but remain uneaten. He claims that his family will eat a lot of it since they are coming over during a period of weeks. However, said subject will not log how many calories are in them all. Claims its due to time constants but he will likely find theres simply far too amny calories for his family to eat even 10% of his purchased goods. Subject remains defiant its not incongruent behaviour and is typical holiday behaviour.Does patient need referring to eating disorder clinic? Y/N
That fat shit who spent 600 bucks in candy is ngmi
I posted this in the wrong thread by accident.>2 dumbbells>1 bar>6x5kg>4x2.5kg>6x1.25kg>7.5kg kettlebellI got given these by a bro to help me get fit, I'm 182cm/102kg (5'11.5/225) - 23.5% BF (96cm/38inch waist).What do I do with them? I was too embarrassed to say to him I don't have a fucking clue.I've been walking a lot on days when it's dry, but I want to train as well. My 38 jeans are loose on me now so I might have lost an inch.
>>76809848>23%bf>38 inch waist Lmao lil bro is built like a traffic cone
>>76809852mans nickname is cube because he built as tall as he is wide
two words for yougarlic bread
>>76809852That's what the online calculator said. I have no idea.
>>76809848If your ceiling isn't low you can OHP, you can also floor press, do bicep curls, cleans into front squats, rows lots of stuff. weight will get low for most of the exercises fast but you might enjoy it and decide to join a gym>>76809852He's just like me frfr
>>76809848You could do clean and jerks to get you started, which will be a good way to build base strength for the full body. You could also do bodyweight exercises, and put the plates into a backpack to help you progress, like wearing it while doing pushups.
the scale........has been silent these past few weeks
>>76809860Agoraphobic, walking works because I can do it alone. Thank you.>>76809862I need to progress to doing a pushup.
>>76809870Aye totally understand, I am lucky and just leech off of my brother's homegym.
>>76809870Unless youre autistic or schizophrenic or something else that is not really 'curable' you should force yourself to go to the gym, it would provide positive results over time, even if you spazz out and have a panic attack the first time. If you can accept you're going to be seen as the 'strange guy' at your first gym then you can let go of worry and then join another gym after you get more comfortableif you are autistic or schizophrenic you can still cope better with your condition
>>76809870>I need to progress to doing a pushupYeah just look up a beginner routine on youtube. You will quickly get stronger and you'll be glad to have the weights.
i could never get into lifting because i have snapping elbow syndrome on one of my elbows sad but we can only play with the cards that we're dealt with
>>76809878being around people is like a weight on my chest and it feels like I'm dying. Undiagnosed but something aint right.>>76809880Thanks for this.
>>76809897Do you drink alcohol or any shit like that?I had serious panic attacks as an alcohol drinker. It was so bad I dropped out of college. Years later I can now do group sessions of therapy with strangers with barely a register of anxiety. Its a skill oftentimes you have to learn to develop
so hungry...
starting weight: 118.1 kg 20/8current weight: 97.4 kg 8/11goal weight: 70 kgheight: 179 cmmethod: rolling 72s with water and coffee
It turns out all I had to do to lose fat was consume less calories
>>76809975This is a fact too many fatties refuse to accept
>>76809880I thought wide grip was harder than normal?
>>76809975I love watching shows where fatties play stupid/decieve/barter about CICO. That shit is hilarious.Btw where is the guy who didn't eat like a pig for three days?
>>76810040The range of motion is smaller. Same with bench press.
Sometimes i snack on an uncooked pasta screw or two
>>76810111Witnessed holy singles
>>76809844Patient is terminally autistic and needs to be put down.
third day blood on my toilet paperim not even a homo
>>76809848>182cm>102kg>96cm waist>23.5% bfMeanwhile I'm sitting here at 180cm 92kg 100cm waist and 27-28% bf. I get that everyone's different or whatever but fucking hell.
>>76810272>6ft vs 5'11
The slopking is still making his favorite stuff.Giant portion, super tasty, easy to make (takes a bit though).686 kcals for picrel52g protein105g carbs8g fatLife is good
>>76810283182cm rounds down to 5'11" too though.
>>76810272I'm 193cm, 107kg, 93cm waist. Not sure of true bf%, but it's comfy.
>>76810286>686 kcals>okay-ish protein>fuckton of carbs>no fat>""""good""""lmao okay
>>76810291Sounds like athlete in cut meal.
>>76810291>keeps you full for literally an entire day for 700 kcals>Somehow that's "bad"You do you anon, wishing you the best with whatever better way you figured out.
>>76810302>keeps you full for literally an entire daylikely story buddy
>>76810320Well it's all I've eaten yesterday except for a coffee with milk and a sugar free energy drink.Do with this information as you will.
all the nuns do anymore is pig out. when nickado avocado dies from organ failure the subversion will be complete.
>>76810330>he only gets 52g protein and dayoh no no no no no
>>76810342I'll live.
Do you niggas think it's possible for me lose these love handles? Or I'll have to resort do surgery?
I have an incredible desire to eat a shitton of ice cream right now.
>>76810370Put the fork down and start training
>>76810370you're still skinnyfat
Man I can't wait to eat normal food like a normal person again, and not worry about calories or portion sizes ALL the time.I have a bunch of food items I've been salivating about for months now that, while I could easily fit it into my diet, it would make my portions so small that I would either go hungry or it would put me at maintenance or close to it.Basically I've become hyper fixated min/maxer almost. If it's over 110-120 calories per 100g, I ain't touching it.
Are there any accurate devices for measuring daily body caloric expenditure (based on heart rate weight whatever)? Like most people i struggle with accurately estimating how much i burn every day (eating is fine thanks to myfitnesspal and religiously weighing everything)
Got some good ass pizza in my house and I'm gonna break my 72 hour fast with it I don't care how long I'm going to spend on the toilet afterwards
>>76810400so wdym
>>76810434No
>>76810434No, not really.>Like most people i struggle with accurately estimating how much i burn every dayDo what I do, and assume most people do as well; overcompensate. Eat 1500 calories a day (which is what is recommended to most normies as it's well within safe levels) and make those at least 80g protein, unless you're aiming to become hueg beefcake.If you REALLY want to find out how much you burn every day you should very strictly eat a set ammount of calories a day, and by the end of the week see if you gained, lost or maintained, then adjust accordingly.
>>76810425I mean you can pretty much eat whatever as long as you do it OMAD style and don't worry about protein for a day, unless you're like, 5 feet tall.
>>76810425I just went on a short break where I ate at TDEE, and I was even able to fit donuts or takeout into my diet with no problem. Maintaining the weight is going to be real easy as long as I stick to what I've learnt.
Stop being fat
>>76810425 bad news bub, when you stop obsessing you will pile it back on, this restrictive diet mindset is for life. Its the same for all us food addicts
>>76809808>on a 2000cal diet>decide to smoke weed for the first time in years>get insane munchies>have no candies or snacks in my house >proceed to chow down a full bottle of multivitamin gummiesfuck my chud life ngmi
>>76810425I'm at LEAST 18 months away from truly being able to eat normal food like a normal person again (in HEAVY moderation, of course). Thankfully I'm so deep in keto right now looking at other food doesn't even faze me
>>76810502that's what I'm banking on. This thinking of being about to "go back to normal" is just the fat me talking. By the time I actually get to my goal weight I'm not gonna even want to reincorporate those foods back into my diet
>>76810551Nigga you're gonna die
>>76810567don't threaten me with a good time
>>76810551I smoked weed for the first time in years, but I never got hungry and just noticed how dirty my house was, so I spent the next 4 hours cleaning it.
>201 today still no vascularity>flexing so hard I'm at risk of shitting my pants>legs still estrogenmaxxxedA guess a few weeks til 195
I have eaten so much i am literally shaking right now, help.
>>76810581how tf do you have abs at 201
>>76810588Not being a midget
>>76810580Lucky you, weed turns me into a complete slob, glad I remembered why I stopped smoking it.
>>76810588BY FLEXING REALLY HARD. They aren't abs, it's just fat loose skin drapping over them.
>>76810591well im a slob in my regular state of mind so thats probably why lol
>>76810391Bros I did! I ate the ice cream!!!!
>>76810637what's your height/weight rn
>>7681064069 inches, 214 pounds
>>76810637Post body
>>76810644no need. it looks like shit but I know I can lose like 20 pounds in the next 80 days so its ok.
>>76810646You need to lose a lot more than 20lbs
>>76810649I know. But I have a goal weight by a certain date (mid 190s by February) and I know I can get it despite the ice cream that I had today.
>>76810652I love ice cream too bro...
Thoughts on this diet for weight loss? I’m intermittent fasting from about 3:00pm to 8:00am.Going to the gym 3x per week and running a short distance 2x per week. Currently weigh 98kgs
>>76810664>75g of chickenThat is like one bite of chicken
>>76810654If you don't want to be retarded like me. Make yogurt, fully strain it, then mix it with protein powder, fruit, and some milk. You get something that satisfies ice cream cravings like 98%. Its not the real thing but its close enough.
>>76810670Forgot to mention that you freeze it. Or just freeze the strained yogurt and make a thick smoothie afterward.
>>76810670Eh I have an ice cream machine, I just dump in a couple cups of whole milk and 3 scoops of chocolate protein powder. It freezes too hard and the taste isn't amazing but it scratches the itch. It's like 900 calories for the batch with 108g of protein and I split it up for two days.
>>76810669True it could probably be more
>>76810664You want more protein, 150-170g a day especially days you work out. Peanut butter is cursed for a cut but up to you. I'd eat like a 250-300g chicken breast for your dinner instead of 75g.
>>76810664It's fine, don't fall for the protein meme.
>>76810704Post body
>>76809808Anyone else have a problem with pushing too hard? Like I'll try exercising for an hour and be knocked on my ass after.
>>76810709Pussy
>>76810148Welcome to weightloss. I couldnt even shit one day because when I tried pushing it would just squirt blood out of a tear I made the day before. Glad it healed up in a couple of days, but constipation and hemmys are not fun. One cant get better without the other getting better first. Its a nightmare.
>>76810664What would meal 2 be? Looks ok to me. I usually eat 100g-130g of meat when having it, like a 250g steak will do me two nights worth of meals.
>>76810723Fug, I didn't eat any fiber I guess for like 3 days cause I was too lazy to make veggies. Lesson learned veggies every day.
Think i'll have light tea, two boiled eggs, two pieces of toast with butter. Tally up over 400cals, what even is this.
>>76810732Me and my girlfriend have 2 meals we prepare in different half’s of the week, so it changes week to week but it’s usually around 450 calories or so.
>>76810709Ingest electrolites, take creatine and eat more protein (also 8h of sleep very important). My first mistake during my first attempt was doing none of those things just going extremely hard at the gym which left me exhausted, injured and in a perpetual state of muscle soreness.
Fatty ContestCaptainPlanet121.8kg
>>76810733Nothing sweeter than a lazy box of good quality cherry tomatoes.
>>76810056A sad, sadistic, person will look down on you for your hat... but I understand. I feel the love when I see people and their worn down hats....
>>76810709Cardio might help with that. If you're not egolifting and know progressive overload principles you can make a good split plan that suits you.Takes me weeks to get exhausted, I do 6 workouts a week, around 120min average. I started with cardio, the vascular endurance it brought helped a lot when I entered a gym.
>>76810741>two pieces of toast with butter>fat losspick one lmao
I have eaten 6000kcals today. What the fuck is wrong with me.
>>76810896Please tell me what did you eat today
>>768108986000kcals worth of sweets, chocolate, crisps and pizzas.
>>76809844>A moth walks into a wendys and says he wants an opinion on some behavioural abnormalities. He's bought 500$ worth of candy for the christmas season. This was during a fast where hunger pangs were at his strongest. This obsession about food and denying himself led to obessive googling and purchasing of junk food. Said subject claims it gives him a sense of power and control having his purchased goodsin the house but remain uneaten. He claims that his family will eat a lot of it since they are coming over during a period of weeks. However, said subject will not log how many calories are in them all. Claims its due to time constants but he will likely find theres simply far too amny calories for his family to eat even 10% of his purchased goods. Subject remains defiant its not incongruent behaviour and is typical holiday behaviour. the cashier says, "that sound like you need a doctor, why did you come into a wendys? the moth said "because the light was on"
>>76810896Sounds like you're a growing boy with quite an appetite, hahaha, have another piece of pie, son.
>>76810896you're 400lbs, that's what's wrong with you
>>76810911Ah, I love how this becomes a /fat/ meme & pasta. We're at the Eden of culture. Very nasty and rancid culture.
why is a bag of popcorn 400 damn calories
>>76810974I used to eat the prepopped kettle corn ones that are like 1200 calories full bag :^) In one sitting.
>>76810977geez anon, how big were those bags?
>>76810982they have 2400 cal bags at HEB , about the size of pillows
>>76810974On the bright side, those 400 calories have more mass and are more filling than those kettle jalapeno chips that haunt your nightmares.
>>76810974that's pretty goodlast year I was eating one almost every day and still losing weight
I am not going to weigh myself for 13 days. The stall doesn't exist if I don't acknowledge it. I'm just going to keep my head down and keep doing my diet
>1 week of under maintenanceWhy does it take longer to lose weight but I can gain 20lbs in 2 weeks?
>>76811075Yes. Step into the dark side! The side of reality without compulsing over a scale number.
>>76811105it's so difficult to do, but I'll find a way. Currently have my scale tucked away in a box in the back of my garage just in case I crack and try to weigh myself beforehand
>>76811100your body isn't designed to lose weight. your body is extremely optimized to gain weight
>>76811100Because of technological advances. If we ate the same shit as the great apes, and used as much calories foraging, hunting and gathering... Yesterday I learned findings about a certain species of dinosaurs to be totally wrong, mixing the findings from another distinct species. Let's just say it broke all trust I had on the Jurassic Park being acurate. Cause guess what? It was the mighty T-Rex!
>>76811116>If we ate the same shit as the great apes
>>76811116bahaha you're only just figuring this out now? also why the fuck would we want to eat the same as great apes? our digestive systems are completely different
>one week until my shipment of tirzepatide arrivesI'm ready for one year of nothing but eggs, tuna, beanz and bags of frozen fruit.
>>76811120Because it's satire to the cave-man shilling on /fit/.And no, we wouldn't want to eat like that, gee. In ways we still do, but all processes have been refined to produce bigger, better, faster. Hence the "because of technology".
>>76811122
Currently 190If I dont look handsome at 150 and ripped im gonna rope
>haven't eaten like a pig for 4 whole daysare you guys proud of me?
>>76810041I was out walking all day
>devour Wendy's double and extra large cokeShieet..atleast I didn't eat much today, only a kebab and some fries.
>>76811156peak ngmi
>put on excessive weight>lose excessive weight>get state-funded skin surgery>get opioid prescription during recoveryIs this a feasible way of feeding my habit?
>>76811159Yes.
>>76811153Nice! We are proud.
>lock in a few years ago and lose 20kg (110 down to 90) doing OMADs and 48s>fast forward to today>pretty much back to where i started just from not paying attention and gaining a bit here and therei had no idea i have to keep doing this f o r e v e r
>>76811174just stay on omad for eternity
fatty contestxocoadl175 cm, 116,3 kg
>>76811174Well, you don't. You're sort of outsourcing the experience. You focus on timetables and unsustainable ways where you should be learning about your body and yourself. Sort of like the mind-muscle connection, but more unilateral with who the true authentic you is, how your body works, the impulses, all.
>>76811174yeah mate it's rootedi've gained and lost weight more than I can remember but I'll try ...>chubby, "puppy fat" stage till 13>gradually gaining till 19, never weighed, probably peaked to 270lb>lose weight down to 175lb at 20>get back to 230 at 22>get back to 160 at 24>get back to 190 at 26>get shredded at 140 at 27>balloon up to 320 by 30>get as high as 370 at 34>currently cutting at 310I hate my life
whoever recommended doing OMAD yesterday I appreciate it, actually worked out really well. Made a huge bowl of food, ate until I felt full, then put the rest in the fridge for tomorrow.
>>76811184height?
>>768111965'9"
I only drink water now. My body is screaming for diet coke
>>76811200oof
>>76811201Why not drink it then? Has almost no calories
>>76811201just drink seltzer water, that's helped satisfy my addiction to diet coke
>>76811118Kek
>>76811203trains me to go for sugar
>>76811204makes me burp and brap
>>76811229so does diet coke
>>76811238yes that's why I drink just water
Hit my goal weight of below 170 yesterday. Forgot to come here to post. Was 200 in mid August. Feels good bros
>>76811240Just water? Atheist version of holy water?
Cauliflower pizza makes me fart so fuckung much. They stink too
>>76811253Nice congrats brother
>>76811260So much that it's...>unreal?
How does this even work with his leg. His shin bones would have to be curved back, it doesn’t make sense
>>76811278who gives a fuck?
>>76809961How many calories do you eat on the days you do eat?>>76810664Personally I would cut the peanut butter, still have it as a treat if you really enjoy it but maybe don’t make it part of your mealSwap banana for a less calorie dense fruit or vegetableCut the protein shake out, and use the calories to have more food with meal 3. I only use protein powders when I’m not on a diet.As long as it works for you though, it’s all fine as long as you’re at a deficit
>>76811286I give a fuck faggot
>>76811254
after weeks of not using cheat meals on keto and losing all slop cravings I finally forced myself to eat a donut it was good
2 weeks till diabetes specialist check up... I hope I lose more weight bros...
>>76811346>cheat meal>goodYou're only cheating yourself.
>>76811348ive already reached my goal weight retard
>>76810664>800 calories of carbs>820 calories of protein + fat>a single meal with meat, and its fucking chicken breastno wonder none of you retards can stick to your dietcut the fucking carbs and eat more meat holy shit
>>76811349see you in a couple months when you have to do it all over again
at what BMI do you become human?
>>7681136234.7 and then every pound from there increases your humanity.
>Go to bed to skip forward in time to ease the wait until dinner>Get 4 hours of sleep if that>It's 4 am>Dinner isn't until 2 pm>I've had 1 meal this whole week
>>76811385>Go to bed to skip forward in time to ease the wait until dinnerI used to do this. It sort of works but the avoidance prevents you from developing will power.
>>76811394>the avoidance prevents you from developing will powerThis is true for most, but as I said, I've had 1 meal this week so far. I'm doing pretty well in that regard. It just really suuuuuucks to wait this long, especially since it's nice and dark and cozy now, and making food at night is top comfy.
>>76811407why not eat 0 meals? then all your problems would stop very soon, instead of dragging it out like this
>>76811417This will be taken into consideration, thanks.
>>76811287around 1600
>>76811427what is 72s?
>>76811433The amount of hours he’s fasting for, so anon’s only eating every 3 days
>>76811442wow that is hardcore. I just eat breakfast and dinner.
>>76811433The fatties way to show penance to the true God-Emperor of Mankind for their misbehaviors and worship of the Chaos Godess of Slaanesh, the Lady of Excess, and somehow becoming the cultists of Nurgle simultaneously.
Anyone trying 67 hour fasts to try and harness meme magic to improve weight loss?
>>76811364so basically, when you're closer to being overweight than morbidly obese
>>76811464Yes.At least that was the case 6 years ago. Might've changed since then.
So how are you guys going to handle december, and christmas-new years specifically?Personally I'm already done by then. Traditionally I don't eat with restrictions during that time even if I am on a diet, but I've also never been over 29 BMI so take that for what it's worth.Being a REAL fatty on a diet must be hell during that time, especially if you're family oriented with lots of get-togethers.
>>76811487My hard goal is by Dec 27 'cause that's when I go on my single's mingle. So I'm hoping to treat Dec 25/26 as any other day and limit intake, but with turkey.
>>76811487eat whatever at get-togethers, but eat nothing else on that day or the nextmaybe the next two days if i think i actually ate three days' worth
>>76811487Take a break and enjoy the holiday and your family, just don’t do anything retarded like eat a whole box of chocolates in one go, and don’t have the ‘fuck it it’s Christmas’ mindset over the whole of December.Traditional Christmas dinner isn’t even that high in calories
>>76811513This. I'll take a break but continue immediately after the holidays. I recommend the same for all fatcels. Dont be like "I'll start on Monday" it's not gonna work you are never gonna start again
Fatty ContestFatdew119.5kg
>>76811201The more it screams and cries and shids itself the more you know you're gmi.
>>76811487My "normal" plan is to allow myself to indulge a little and not worry about it. Maybe eat more turkey than mashed potatoes for e.g. thanksgiving, but otherwise just enjoy myself. I mainly just have my core family and no frens so it'll just be 1 dinner. My crazy plan is to fast the day before and then toss that deficit into the Thanksgiving/Christmas budget so that I can just eat how I've been eating the previous years, but still maintain a strict deficit. The reason it's crazy is because the fast might make me want to binge eat. Thanksgiving will be my guinea pig day, and if it works I can just always stealthily be on a deficit for any occasion.
>>76811201Wtf is this obsession with Americans and Diet Coke. Literal poison
>>76811581>Wtf is this obsession with Americans and slop of all kinds. Literal poisonFtfy
>>76811580>My crazy plan is to fast the day before and then toss that deficit into the Thanksgiving/Christmas budget so that I can just eat how I've been eating the previous years, but still maintain a strict deficit. The reason it's crazy is because the fast might make me want to binge eatWhy not do it the other way around? Seems like the much better option. Fast the day after, which will be really easy when you've eaten a solid meal the day before. Less risk of binging
>>76811580You definitely don't have an ED
>bulking on ketothis shit makes me feel like an animal>no cravings for junk food anymore >hunger pangs are sharp and strong >cant snack because keto snacks are all expensive as shit (besides cheese, but im tired of that)>have to cook all my meals and eat as much as I can
>>76811660
>>76811625Because I'm a retard and need/want to feel pain before I can allow myself to feel pleasure. Your strategy is probably more sustainable though, so I will probably do it for Christmas and see how it goes.
>>76811625>>76811674I will definitely do it for Christmas*
>>76809928
>>76811660snack on eggs and self made jerky
>>76811701>eggsim so fucking tired of eggs dude I was eating 3-4 of them a day while cutting, fuck thatI must've gone through like 40 egg cartons in the last year
>>76811660Pork skin snacks also are a thing.
Fatty ContestName: Dzonathan GavertWeight: 98.25 kgOverall progress:https://tinylink.net/1JdoyMotivational Song of the Day:https://youtu.be/K-l9SC7HICA?si=vIUifsnjq6SdHdpE
>>76811711>3-4 a dayI eat 5-8 eggs alone for breakfast and snack on em whenever I get 'ungry between meals
>>76811731how are you not tired of them?
>>76811741I dont know :P
>try to lose weight for years>keep listening to average advice and videos about weight loss>"weight loss takes time, you have to do it slowly">"you just have to be in a mild caloric deficit for a long time and then youll be good">try all of this. Im a fuck up so I keep screwing up, having moments of weakness, keep getting fatter>decide one day fuck it. Im gonna go as hard as possible on weight loss like a fucking psycho>2 full meals a week, small bowl of meat and salad every second day when not doing 3 day fasts>work out every single day, cardio, weights, pick up old sports. doesnt matter how sore I am, keep going.>start finally losing weight>fat fuck friends and family keep telling me Im gonna die doing this>keep trying to force me to eat more garbage, keep refusing and upsetting their obese class III lard asses>lose a little under 13kg in a month and a half>going to an insane extreme is somehow infinitely easier and more comfortable for me than doing the sensible shitcan someone explain why Im like this? Whats wrong with me? Why cant I just be normal?
>>76811902i'm also doing surprisingly fine on an extreme deficit+labor jobmy guess is that if you're a hunter-gatherer and not eating much despite working your ass off, you're probably going through rough times so your body stops distracting you from doing what you need to dothis is probably wrong but sounds plausible enough to me
>>76811902same experience for me. intense shit is 100x easier, and your body reacts better. Fat is there for periods of starvation, it makes no sense that people would have constant access to "only" 1000 calories a day, which is why you're always hungry during deficits but not during fasts.>hunt an animal>shit load of food for a week>starve for 3 days until the next kill>repeatalso, family are the worst. especially the fat ones, everything is unhealthy and dangerous to them... except being fat.
> plays drum beat on drum machineKeto. Beto. Keto. Beato. It's all in the rhythm of the ketone beatone. Just listen to your liver, and you'll slither. You'll stop the wither, and snicker.
3 am on a saturday, pitch dark at the park alone doing pull ups while listening to tiktok remixes (a dog started barking and i almost shat myself thinking i was about to get robbex)
I fucking hate that my gym closes at 5 pm on the weekends.I am too much of a night owl.Can't even go super early, because they are only open at 9 am.
>>76811966sounds like a shitty gymswitch gyms
>>76811487By then I'll stop trying to lose and just aim to eat at maintenance, I think. My BMI's 21.5 and ponderal index 11.2, getting close to underweight on that one.I think I'll be fine, I'll just try not to eat too much, and keep exercising as much as I do.
>>76812016>ponderal indexWtf, never even heard of that before.>10.22>PI interpretation: underweight.Oh...
>>76811902Kek I legit drafted a 60 day challenge for myself where Im going to quit a bunch of "addictions" all at once. I always do better on those, even in the long term, than trying to kick stuff one by one. I think despite it technically being less fun than living in fattiness and hedonism, the brain gets a kick out of improving in real time vs bit by bit.
>>76811928this makes a fucked up kinda sense.Also fat family members are such a god damned emotionally manipulative nightmare. What the fuck is their problem? Why is it that if you try fix yourself, say nothing bad about them, start making progress that they have this insatiable need to make shitty comments about you or try get you to fail by continually tempting you?
At what BMI have you definitely, undeniably, gone too far in the other direction?
Cake.Also 23kg down.
>>76812063don't worry fatty, you're nowhere near that point yet
>>76812063you are years from crossing that bridge
>>76811902>brand new diet plan!>lift the hood>its just CICOBro you're just doing extreme measures to stick to calories in, calories out.Feast and famine, during your eating days you gorge yourself in thousands of calories. During your famine days youre at a 100% TDEE calorie deficit. You can only fit so much into your stomach at once. Arguably you cant get more than 3500~4000 calories a day on your feast days, but thats still 7000 ish calories. Then the famine days are just raw calorie deficits.Youre actually doing more harm than good, as well, because your lack of consistent eating is reducing your protein availability. I reckon youre not eating 100% protein meals on the feast days.You're losing fat, but also losing muscle too which is probably why the weight loss is extreme. Your body consumes your basal TDEE whether you want it to or not, your body repairs muscle fibers and cells whether you want it to or not. Muscle will be reabsorbed on that clock.
>>76811660bruh just eat salami and cheese slices
>>76812088>Arguably you cant get more than 3500~4000 calories a day on your feast days,I can do that in a single meal, easily.
>>76812088>>its just CICOhow do you retards still exist in the big 25 (moving onto 26 btw)>In groups of four, men and women in their 40s and 50s, some of them lean and some overweight, overate for 30 d by 1000 kcal/d (4186 kJ/d) more than they needed to maintain weight. On an average dietary mixture for Americans they gained a mean of 2.68 kg, and on a diet high in carbohydrate (60 per cent of energy) they gained 2.73 kg. However, on a diet high in protein and fat (70 per cent of energy), they gained significantly less, 1.75 kg. On all three diets the subjects should have gained 5 kg, if adipose tissue has an energy density of 6 kcal/g, and had there been no adaptation. There was adaptation, as evidenced by an average 7 per cent increase in thermogenesis, which was measured by 24-h direct and indirect calorimetry. Energy balances were calculated from: bomb calorimeter values for food and body waste; change in fuel stores from body composition measured by densitometry; and daily expenditure estimated from the net food intake needed to maintain body weight during a 30-d control period.
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>>76812102>There was adaptation, as evidenced by an average 7 per cent increase in thermogenesis, which was measured by 24-h direct and indirect calorimetry.So eating more protein increases calories out .
I burned 1,000 calories on the exercise bike today. As long as I keep doing this, once I'm done losing weight I can basically go back to eating like a fat bastard and not be fat at the same time.I've discovered I don't hate exercise, but I really hate fasting with a passion.
>>76812119>le everything is CICO braintwister>"FASTING? YEAH THAT'S JUST CICO">"LOW CARB? DOESN'T MATTER, ALSO JUST CICO">"INSULIN? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?">"LET ME EAT 2 DONUTS A DAY INSTEAD OF 3, YEAH I CAN FIT THAT IN MY MACROS. ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS CICO">"WTF WHY AM I STILL FAT??? CLEARLY IM NOT CICOING HARD ENOUGH"
Calories don’t even exist. It’s a man made unit of measurement because someone burned food in an oven and think the body reacts the same way
>>76812136>this measurement is only approximate and therefore I can eat 10,000 donuts a day
>>76812146ironic because the only people that care about "calories" are the retards using it to justify eating 10 donuts a day because it's in their "macros"
>>76812147Actually the people who care about calories is literally everyone trying to lose weight.
>>76812102Because weight loss is always CICO.Whether you want to admit it or not.Starving yourself for too long is just dirty bulking, but in reverse. Of the weight you lose, around 25-35% of the weight loss is muscle mass. Considering the thread, you are NOT working out at the intensity required fo push that down to only a 10% portion of your weight loss being muscle.Your body does not store protein as it does fats. You essentially use up your protein the second its needed, then the body converts it into glycogen for storage. After 24-36 hours of low protein intake, your body starts breaking down muscle tissue that isnt being used. Your body only uses so much protein a day, based on needs of activity and repair, the rest is just shit out or converted into fat.Your study you posted also still promotes CICO. They consumed past their calorie limits and they gained weight. Some just gained slightly less weight.You cant cheat CICO, its even in the thread OP. Its basic energy conservation. All youre doing is claiming you're bulking for eternity if you go above your TDEE when all you're actually doing is cheating yourself in your diet plan.
>>76812150>its even in the thread OPpost body
>>76812147whats your obsession with donuts? do you often think about donuts on your meme diet?
>>76812161they're the stereotypical fatty food literally the worst possible shit you could eateven pizza, fast food, or burgers are better. at least those have meat.
>>76812083>>76812071Yeah, but answer the question
>>76812155>meme and "post body!"Concession accepted.
>>76812027Yeah apparently it's better than BMI if you're either very tall or very small.
it's been 4 months since i tried losing weight. i've been fat since i was a kid and, in july, i just decided i was going to lose it. down from 117.4 to 94.5 today.thank god i never liked sugary soda and all that shit in the first place, i just ate too much.
>>76812224Same. tbf I think we got it harder because we can't just cut soda and easily dodge however many calories.
>>76812224I have a similar story. Also too many carbs, like pasta.
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>>76812207What is "very tall" in this case? Like skyscraper 199cm+? I'm 189.
>>76812251Honestly no fucking idea, but one of the BMI calculators I used once told me I was very tall and BMI could be inaccurate and it suggested ponderal index instead, I'm 6'4".
>>76812256Interesting. Thanks
>>76812162okay but a normal person would think to eat just 1 donutwhy do you think anyone would eat 10 donuts?
>>76812244same; i made spaghetti bolognese every week. it was delicious but it had to go.
>>76812284see >>76742512
>Fast for 5 days>Feel like death, like I'm about to drop any second>Eat 700 calories>Feel like I didn't fast at all and can fast 5 moreThe body is a weird machine.
>>76812292>everyone is shitting on himgood
>>76811581You've clearly never had a large Diet Coke from an American Mcdonalds before. Shit is liquid crack
>>76809808How old were you when you grew out of the weight loss meme?
>>76812065are those poppyseeds?
>>76812408Yes. Poppy seed cake is the best cake.
>>76812088>I reckon youre not eating 100% protein meals on the feast days.Feast day meals for me are a 200g steak, 3 boiled eggs with a side of spinach or lettuce and a tomato depending on what's cheapest. If I'm still hungry then I'll add in some cream cheese slathered on a celery stick. For some reason this works and I dont feel hungry afterwards. Not sure if that's good or not but hey it works for me.>You're losing fat, but also losing muscle tooprobably but I'd rather have to rebuild muscle from a healthier position than continue to be a devastatingly fat fuck who cant even jog for 20 minutes without being out of breath. Weirdly enough I've managed to lift heavier in the gym recently than I have in the last 5 years, although not really that impressive considering how weak I was previously and I've noticed a positive difference in my stamina levels between last month and this one when it comes down to my endurance both when doing cardio and with the sports I've picked back up.I feel sore most days since I now do some form of workout every day but I dont feel even close to as debilitated as I was 10kg ago. Also for some reason feel less tired all the time which is nice. Never got that when trying to do slow and steady stuff.I see no reason to stop what I'm doing until I'm down like another 20kg because its working and I feel much better than I used to by a long margin.
160kg. Lost ~35kg, not sure how much. Was with some friend group last night, among whom there was my crush. Just realized she will never love me no matter what I do. That unrequited love made me lose weight, but also took the only source of happiness from me, the food
>>76812491look at this chad having friends
>>76812491>Flexing like you have muscleskek
Holy fuck trying to eat well in a deficit is a nightmare>gotta eat enough protein or youll lose muscle>make sure to eat enough fat for hormonal balances>eat enough fibre>dont forget to not eat too many carbs or youll bloat such a fine line of what you can eat without going over your deficit.
>>76812491>Was with some friend group last night, among whom there was my crush. Just realized she will never love me no matter what I do. That unrequited love made me lose weight, but also took the only source of happiness from me, the food>doing it for a womanlmao, do it for yourself idiot. who the fuck cares about a womans opinion, shes probably getting railed by 3 guys every week (some browns too). imagine caring about such a person.
>>76809808day 7 of my fast we gonna go for at least 2 weeksi had my first bout of cravings last night but i held strong
>>76812532what a pussy, i've been fasting for 28 days now. gonna OMAD on the 30day mark and do a 1 month water fast.
>>76811487by not having any family and few friends
>>76811487By having impulse control and being able to say ''no, thanks, i'm watching my diet''.
>>76812536>>76812532Post bodies
>>76812549no because i am still fatI can post a youtube video of me benching 300lbs for reps if you want
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>>76812553>I can post a video of some guy benching 300lbs
>>76812557it's me i could leave a comment from my account for you to confirm
>>76812511Imagine being 6'4" and still being retarded chud incel. >>76812516Ikr, but man's gotta hope>>76812530I can't G, I hate my life. Always didAlso no, I hate all women, but she is different, I do have access to her chats from time to time and there aren't many guys in there and nothing serious. Plus, no darkies in my country, thankfully
>>76812564>I hate all women, but she is different
>>76812540>"oh look at anon, he's 'watching his weight' hahahahahahaha"guarantee you crack
>>76812564>I hate all women, but she is differentLOL. stop coping.> I do have access to her chatsSTOP. seek help.
>>76812565I knoww, I am the cynical one usually. That's why I never cared about women, except for this one
>>76812564>I do have access to her chats from time to timeStalker alert
>>76812396I never grew out of it, I shrunk in.
>>76812564>calling other people a chud incel>but hates his own lifekek failed normalfags make me laugh
>>76812581I called myself retarded chud incel?
>>76812527yeah but once you figure it out it's easy
>>76812583my bad the way you worded it sounded like "imagine being retarded, chud incel"
>>76812591You are a retarded chud incel though
>>76812593yeah but I don't hate my life. I'm sorry for you.
kinda wish I was fat again so I could lose the weight all over i've gotten addicted to the feeling of progressnow all I have is lifting, which is like 10x slower than fat loss
>>76812591Np G. I love toxicity of this place. >>76812594Also I didn't write that
>>76812598Yeah i wrote that, not you. Stupid faggot.
>>76812597>which is like 10x slower than fat lossUse roids
>>76812599mental illness
>>76812602Yes you are mentally ill
>>76812600Common Physical Side Effects>Skin and Hair: Severe acne, oily skin, increased facial or body hair growth, and accelerated scalp hair loss (male pattern baldness).>Cardiovascular: Hypertension (high blood pressure), harmful changes in cholesterol levels (decreasing HDL/good cholesterol and increasing LDL/bad cholesterol), cardiac arrhythmia, and increased risk of heart attack or stroke.>Reproductive/Hormonal: Suppression of natural testosterone production, testicular shrinkage, reduced sperm count and infertility, and gynecomastia (male breast tissue enlargement).>Other Physical Effects: Night sweats, problems sleeping (insomnia), a sudden, violent cough immediately after injection ("tren cough"), and local inflammation, nerve damage, or tissue death at the injection site due to potential contamination. Neurological and Psychological Side Effects>Mood and Behavior: Increased aggression and mood swings ("roid rage"), anxiety, depression, and manic behavior.>Cognitive: Potential brain damage, affecting thinking and memory. Organ System Risks>Liver: Potential liver toxicity and injury.>Kidneys: Kidney stress, potential damage, and failure.>Immune System: Suppression of the immune system.
>>76812603I'm not that anon but you are definitely mentally ill
>weekly weigh in>up 6.2lbsthis feels fucking wild. supposedly my muscle mass went up 4.3lbs but how realistic is that in a single week?
>>76812540>By having impulse control and being able to say ''no, thanksNgl anon, intentional or not that sounds like you're being prideful about it ITT. Since you're here I assume you are or at least were fat. Simmer down
>>76812606>Bro i'm totally not himPeak mental illness
>>76812608Even on every roid in the world that is impossible. You fat shit.
>>76812608Water weight for lots of reason. If you tell me exactly what you did different this week I can try to explain.
>>76812611>writes down "irrational distrust of others"Interesting. Anything else?
>>76812615>Starts larpingInteresting. Anything else?
>Burnt the F U C K out of my mouth todayGod fucking damn it. It's literally blistering and painful as fuck.I wasn't going to, but fuck it I will fast tomorrow, let it heal completely first.
>>76812614Yeah that sounds more likely. I did start eating more in the morning since I've been lifting heavier, but also my sleep has been turbo fucked because of work
>>76812530tbf started for someone else, because I'm an idiot. But now I just enjoy running and I can't run if I'm fat, so I'm doing it for me, tyvm.
>>76812471>probably but I'd rather have to rebuild muscle from a healthier positionSo are you planning to lose all the fat prior to building muscle? Or start recomping as you've lose some weight? What is your reasoning?
>>76812623Could we as simple as you eat more carbs than usual. Or that you had more salty. Or that you worked out muscles you haven't in over two weeks and they are inflamed. Lots of possibilities.
>>76812617>fatso vs cookie>fatso wins by devouring cookie>cookie deals damage to the walking fatso snake's reverse anus by burn>unbeknowst to the fattie the cookie used deception to get into the landwhales' bloodstream>red 5 launches heartstopper into the artery>fatso won the battle, cookie wins the war
>>76812641Very cringe post
>>76812641Are you german by chance?
Not sure if right topic to ask but I'll take the risk, just tell me to go fuck myself if it's not the right place to ask.Anyone got experience with open air fitness park?I've been looking for some but I'm having great difficulties finding any.Of course I'm not expecting some grandiloquent shit, but I figured it'd be a good addition to my hikes and jogs if I can someone manage ot branch one in the routes I use.Hell, just being able to do some pull ups would be great.
>>76812664Well that depends on your location, doesn't it?
>>76812670Sorry I realized I wrote my post like a caveman, let me rephrase:Have you ever visited one and made use of it? What was your experience with them? Are they worth it?
>>76812627Im losing as much fat as possible and working from there. I'm recomping as much as I can while I go but the priority is lose fat. My reasoning that I've already had confirmed is that the less fat I am, the more mobility I gain and the easier it is to build muscle doing the proper movements and actually being able to execute on motions as opposed to having to find a fat person way around how I'm doing things. Already having a reduced gut size has made almost all lifts and exercise I do easier.
>>76812645Aww ;',(>>76812654Thank heavens no>>76812671Yes, they are good. Any form of resistance training is good. But there are better options.
>>76812696>Yes, they are good. Any form of resistance training is good. But there are better options.Yeah pretty much what I was thinking then, still, it's good to have them.Thanks.
>>76812065Forgot to go shopping
>>76812701I used the parks to compliment my home workout routine. Then I just got the gym membership and stopped working out at home & using the parks.>>76812695So you are lifting and excercising. From your earlier post I understood you're not. Going from fat to thin, and then from thin to muscular is a lot harder than you might think. It's not that efficient either.
On one hand, fast progress is quick and motivating, but on the other hand, if progress is the only thing to motivate you then you will have a hard time when progress completely stops.
I just ate 3000kcals worth of chocolate and sweets and now I feel like I'm having a stroke
>>76812730Just ate 700kcals worth of potato dumplings and same, we're in the same boat
>>76812743same same, I just ate 300kcal of soup
>>76812749same, just drank 0kcal of water
>>76812707where the fuck is the meat?
>>76812769Meat is the devil
>>76812769Ran out and didn't buy it on saturday.
>>76812120Be very careful on that route, the ‘calories burned’ on the display of cardio machines are often vastly overestimated, 1000 calories is a hell of a lot of work, it’s going to be very hard to do that daily
>>76812776>Ran outTalk about fresh meat
>go from 220+ to 199lbs..>feel fatter now than I did thenevery part of my body feels soft brazas like a dogs coat that's hanging off a tiny bit off the flesh, i do not like this at all
>>76812803someone once told me that weight loss is about it getting worse before it gets goodkeep it up bro
>>76812806aye will do thanks for the advice/kind words braza
my back hurt so much today ;-;
Fatty Contest Big Frigate197.8 lbsStill maintaining, wanted to get down to 170-175 but I've been floating in the upper 190s since JulyOn a positive note my lifts are actually increasing at a good rate now
>>76812877Any day you don't gain weight is a victory in my book
honestly, i wasn't able to lose weight until i started living on my own family (specially parents) are the biggest gains goblins
i'm tired of craving food, when does it stop
>>76812900it doesn't try eating more filling foods.
>>76812900that feeling NEVER goes away fully, you can only lower the intensity by eating more fiber/protein/fat and cutting carbs. It's just part of being alive
It's a cruel Joke that God m8 goyslop the tastiest
Does losing fat help with hooded eyes?
>>76812150>Because weight loss is always CICO.You have to be more precise with your wording. For example: changing nothing in your diet except reducing salt intake will cause weight loss, as you'll hold less water. CICO stays the same in that scenario.
>>76812972>God made goyslophe doesn't knowlaughingfrog.png
>>76811487Last year I started my weight loss around October. Lost a good 15 lbs. Then Christmas hit, I ate a fuck ton of junk when I went home... completely derailed my diet. I started up again back in March and I've lost 70 lbs, but I am actually afraid of going home since im 30 lbs from my goal. This year im just gonna have to do my best to stick to OMAD, but do maintenence. I just cant resist my Mom's cooking...
>>76812973Ive always felt hooded eyes looked better on men.
bros, maintaining a 500 kcal deficit is getting harder now after a month. i'm averaging 700-800 kcal deficit but even if i do only 500 kcal deficit the hunger doesn't subside like it used to. the hunger is getting stronger. and it seems i hit a plateau. my first week long plateau.i know they can last up to 3 weeks as the OP says but damn it they are frustrating.
>>76813061You have a couple options: first, actually average 500kCal a day. Second, eat more AND burn more calories. Third, Ozempenis
My brother is on Tirzepatide. Made really good progress, going from over 280 to 205 in 6 months. He was talking to me about how he wants to get off of it when he hits his goal weight of ~185 (he's 6'2" and [used to be] muscular/strong).Going off the medication seems like a bad idea to me. Seems like the much smarter move would be to drop down to a lower dose for a year or indefinitely while waiting for his metabolism to recover. All the studies show people regaining a large chunk of the weight after coming off GLP-1s.What do you guys think?PS: How do I convince him to slow down his cut to <= 2 lbs per week now? He's still cutting at ~3 lbs per week and is burning lots of muscle. But all he really cares about right now is the number on the scale, not maintaining muscle.
Fatty ContestxXx_Dem0nL0rD_xXx182.6lbCaved slightly at the end of this week both in fitness and diet. I'm going to use my failure as motivation to make it to Christmas without any lapse in diet and any significant (>2 day) lapse in exercise, even if it's something as simple as just walking a mile.
>>76812950>that feeling NEVER goes away fully>it doesn'tit's so over, guess it's time to drink more water
>>76810581niceaim for 12% bodyfat
>>76811147yes. very proud!
>>76811184wagmi
>>76811457yeah. there is an anon rolling 72s and keeps posting about it
>>76812715>From your earlier post I understood you're not. How? I explicitly stated I was lifting?
>>76813058I've noticed people looking at me more weird/disgusted as of late, especially if we lock eyes. I've gained a fuck ton of weight and went through a lot of changes as a result double chin, rounder face, hair loss, beer belly, fat thighs so that could be it too.
>>76813081it doesn't go away but it can be managed somewhat easily. Satiating food helps and if you can handle the taste really dark chocolate satisfies. Fruit has also helped me in losing fat, just make sure to pick the stuff in season.
>>76813157Yeah thats just being fat. I got those looks when I was 260 lbs. Now that im 180, women actually smile at me now. Its nice.
>tfw I will never be pretty even once I get leanAnyone else forced to uglymax?
>>76813073idk but the main advantage of ozempic seems to be that you can get back on it any time you want
>>76812491just lose the weight anyway.being able to wear socks and tie your shoes without groaning is worth it.
>>76813171I miss those times. Well people didn't smile but they didn't look at me with disgust either. I'm "only" 225lbs and barely obese with 235lbs being my heaviest. idk how the really fuckin fat deal with it.
>>76813182ive always been ugly i don't really care about what being fat looks like to others anymorei just want to be able to run and move easily
>>76812900>>76812950>>76813081What, not even when you stop eating at a deficit?
>>76813184seems dumb to get on and off instead of just staying on and keeping the weight off
>>76813155I don't know, it's very contradictive. First you claim that you would rather build it after losing weight, then you go on and on about lifting as a fat blob. But it's the first claim that lives on, and the rest of it sort of justifies why. Read it yourself.
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want another bananis too much potassium bananate harmful for you?
>>76813194I wish to harness my inner stoic like you.
>>76813208If I don't count my calories I will way overeat, even on cheat days I can go way over board. I've downed an entire family sized box of nutty buddy's (3720 kcals), a taco bell taco 12 pack (2200 kcals), and a shit ton of soda (easily 1000 kcals), and still wanted more. Buffets are a no go for me anymore.
>>76813244i'm not stoic i'm mentally ill and defeated
>>76813245Same here. I can hit 8k+ calories without thinking about it
>>76813256yeah I do get a chuckle when people say bulking is hard. I know they're talking about clean eating, but dirty bulking is so easy to do.>CAPTCHA SHR4T
>>76813264
>>76813208personally i either have to eat at a significant surplus to feel full and not crave food, or i have to fast for days and drink a lot to forget about foodeating "normally" always leaves me frustrated and craving for more, but that might be skill issue of not eating the right food
>>76813274did Peanut Butter ever help. I gained a lot of weight because of it. I could eat pounds of the stuff.
>>76813189>shoesI have always been relatively able-bodied so can't relate as much. Even now at 160kg i am doing mma 3 times a week (although my cardio sucks and i am dropping hands after 3 rounds).At 170 i was able to do decline pushups...
>>76813392bro, you don't mind the the fucking basketball in the way between you and your shoes whenever you bend?
>>76813244If you have audible or know how to pirate ebooks. I recommend listening to "A Guide to the Good Life" by William B Irvine. If nothing else, you'll learn more about ancient Greek philosophy but in all likelihood you'll find something in there that you can bring into your daily life to make it better.
I survived yet another day of PSMF. A little more than 4 weeks done, another 2 left to go. Sometimes, when my dopamine crashes, it can really fucking suck mentally, despite weekly refeeds.
