>can do 8 pull ups>can't do a single muscle upI've watched every single tutorial video on the internet, I just can't fucking do it. What the fuck is wrong with this exercise? Is this shit even worth it? How fucking strong do you have to be?
>>768120668 pull-ups is not a lot unless you weigh 300 pounds.
>>76812066Hey bros, why is bench press so difficult?>Can do 5 push-ups as a 315lb fatass>Can't bench press 315lbsI even watched videos of people benching 3pl8. What the fuck is wrong with bench press? What a waste of time.
>>76812066literally begginer exercise. You are also a novice with 8 pull ups. id say dont bother untill you can get 10 super clean pull ups (preferably 15) and 20 dips. other indicator would be like +40-50% BW pull up 1rm, no your BW is not an excuse because the big guys in pull up game tend to pull more than the ligther guys i.e you being big is you being fat in that case
>>76812066It's not that hard and is mostly technique.Use bands to learn the technique and take it slow otherwise you will fuck your shoulders up, like I did when learning it.Spam negatives and explosive/high pullups. Focus on gaining strength whilst learning the technique with a band.It took me a few months, starting from a five pullup base. When I finally got it, albeit with absolutely dogshit form, I was so fucking stoked.Now I do no momentum, false grip muscle ups as my warmup for pull days.
>>76812087>40-50% BW pull up 1rmReasonable enough, but 1rm pull-ups are a recipe for injury, so I'd say stick to bodyweight pull-ups until you can do at least 10, then start training sets with +10kg and +20kg. Also do explosive pull-ups.Anyway, it's mostly about technique.
hardest part is getting used to pulling with the false grip desu>t. washed up overweight climber
>>76812066Now try one-handed pullupsIf you can 8 of normal ones, surely you can do 4 one-handed lmao
>>76812123trying to 1rm out your muscle up is more dangerous than 1rm pull up
>>76812076>>Can do 5 push-ups as a 315lb fatass>>Can't bench press 315lbsunironically what's the difference? if you were 315 you wouldn't be able to do 5 push ups. if someone at 315 can, they probably can bench 315.
>>76812066I can do 8 pull ups with 15kg/33lbs hanging from me and I'm still learning proper muscle ups too. It's possible to get them with less strength, but it'll require a lot of momentum and will look shit. Proper ones take a lot more strength than you currently have.
>>76812344*8 pullups with that weight with a wide grip, I could probably get up to 12 if I did them with a closer grip I'm stronger at
>>76812341Your feet touching the ground take off half the weight during a push up
Do weighted pull ups, once you can do 10 to 15kg of extra weights, you can do a muscle up.
>>76812786Actually, a pushup starting from the floor is about 75% of your bodyweight and reduces to about 60% at the top of the rep.
>>76812076because push ups are only about 70% of your body weightso your 5 push ups is 100 kg for five, not 3 plate for 1
