Completely serious question. Don't want to roid personally but don't care if she does. Is it easier to convince a normal gym-going girl to do this?
>>76827150Katka sexo
>>76827150How gay do you have to be to like this
>>76827696I have a brother who everyone suspects is gay and the only gf he ever told me about could bench press him. Probably a coincidence.
>>76827627true...
>>76827150You're probably better off just hanging out a raided out dude, they are all pretty much on the verge of transitioning anyways. A gentle nudge and then you'll have your varbie. The chance of finding a real woman to look like this is needle in a haystack shit.
>>76827150i want to look like this and i own anavar but ive never taken it because i hate the idea of getting tranny roid voice
>>76829089Are you a girl? What do you look for in a guy if yes?
>>76827150The old advice of treat a whore like a lady and a lady like a whore is probably applicable. In this case, treat a big muscley girl like a dainty little girl flower and you're in.Most of you twinks cant pull it off, however. Im 6'4" and 280 (not shredded, but shitty Division 1 tight end levels of leanness and very vascular), so I can pull this off. So the fact is, even a 185 pound woman is small to me.
>>76829247Wouldn't this only work if they're attracted to you anyway? If you try to treat someone sweetly when they're not attracted to you they'll just think you're a creep.
>>76827696I don't want fatfuck genetics weighing down my lineage, sorry.
>>76829207i am a woman yeah. and i am exclusively attracted to twinky faggot looking guys, muscles on men i like honestly make me want to puke. i have never had a crush on a man that i didn’t later find out to have anorexia. but i assume since you’ve not a /fa/ nigga you don’t want to look like that, so good luck
>>76829809Interesting; that's the opposite of what I usually hear girls that want to look like this like. It's actually how I prefer to look, but I think my face is too manly to pull off a real twink package unfortunately. Thanks for your input.You should give a cycle a try though. I'm not sure if it's genetics or just being careful with your stack but some girls out there actually get pretty jacked and don't take on the voice sideffects. Pic related. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nXvdtdoMHk
>>76827150It's easier to convince a fatty. Most normal gym-going women won't go fridge mode. >>76829089then manage it properly? Do you have a doctor is who is onboard and have your blood work figured out?
>>76830143>It's easier to convince a fatty.Tell me more. How does this work?
>>76830155high maintenance, but most lonely fatties will do anything to stave off the loneliness. Literally invite them to the gym and see if they will keep at it 3 weeks. You will need to drag them there every time, but you need to keep them off the cardio anyways, so enjoy your babysitting.After 6 months of the dreamer bulk the pounds will melt no matter her diet and she will be sad about the stretch marks, and mentally destroyed by the uneven fat loss. Pretty easy to convince them to do the rapid muscle build and convince them it is the only way to look normal. They will become mentally unstable and not be pleasant to be around most of the time. This is the case for most women who look like this because of the PEDs, so this is just accelerating what is going to be present anyways. You should also be prepared of the sexual dysfunction. You aren't fucking them more than once a month, but again, same story with the non-fattie version.
>>76830186Sounds like it will take a long time, but makes sense. Have you done this before or observed it? What did the women in question think of the process/transformation? Were they unhappy with it and doing it mostly because they were told to or did they eventually "grow into" the process?
>>76827696Really really?
>>76827696the problem is the deeper voice and risk of infertility, so the sex will be gay
>>76829089Somehow CrossFit chicks manage to do this without getting the voice or other stuff from what I've seen, idk how they do it but maybe their methods could work. If u find out do report because I don't get how they manage to avoid the bad sides.
>>76830547The goal was different, but yes I attempted. Most fatties are already unhappy since they usually have an eating disorder for a reason. They do it mostly because they become codependent incredibly quickly. She cried a lot. I would catch her in her vehicle sobbing and eating a candy bar. I unfortunately became a human during the process and also built her self confidence and got her into school. We broke up because she became a terror and decided that her life was unfair. She constantly bitched about her life being too hard and blamed me for her problems. No such difficultly complaints when she worked at the liquor store, but I had to find her a career path because I wanted the package. She immediately stopped going to the gym post breakup. From what I see on social media and the shared gym apps, she will be back to fattie status in a year, probably two for her old 300+ weight. I would guess she will back to the woman who cried herself to sleep every night, but I can't be bothered to keep tabs on her to find out. I am not doing it again. The work/reward is shit. I would recommend fucking some rando gym slut and use the internet to fill in the rest.
>>76829089>>76829809One more question for you actually; what made you want to look like this? Was there a particular moment or idea that caused it?
>>76831715I'm convinced that there's got to be some sort of genetic element to this, like there's no way that some coaches know the exactly right dosage to take and everyone else is just clueless or retarded. I've seen figure and bikini competitors that sound like rock monsters from Rock Raiders and then you have women like Margie Martin that are 4x as big cut as these other girls are hard yet still sound normal.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u2Ti2NyL28
>>76833266>are hardare soft* but whatever.
>>76829089Do you want it enough to fuck up your body permanently? To what end, picking up one of these sniveling closet fags? Hope you aren't too attached to your period, you won't be having it anymore while your bf is below 15%. Go learn how to be a real woman and forget this varbie shit.
>>76833627Go learn how to be a real man and forget this lookism blackpill incel shit
>>76828969Roided out dudes are basically the male version of bimbofication. It's uncanny and weird but I think "Gabbi" Tuft is kinda hot now. The kind of man who does this to himself after years of repressing gay/bi tendencies would probably be a freak in bed. I just can't lie to myself by calling them a woman. Why can't we have a society where some guys just have bodies like this but still accept themselves as men?>>76829089>i hate the idea of getting tranny roid voiceI have met several FtMs recently. Their voices are deep but there's no way anyone will ever see them as men. It's not on the level you think it is. I'm a guy thinking about taking exogenous test/PEDs sometime over the next few years. I've gone back and forth about it a lot. Bottom line is, I can't have the body I actually want without it. I don't want to be enormous or a pro bodybuilder. I just don't want to be normal.
I love big, meathead women
>>76833677> lookism Trannies are not allowed to post
>>76833918/fit/ is a lookism board
>>76833710amen br0ther
>>76830186>>76831864Why would it be easier to convince a fatty and not somebody that already goes to the gym to start bulking and just taking it further and further?
>>76835340To prey on their insecurity. Sociopathic behavior. Imagine being that controlled by a closet-gay fetish
The universal opening line when approaching a bodybuilder male or female is any variation of "do you compete?" "are you preparing for a show? you look peeled". You can then discuss diet judging, coaches and bodybuilding gossip. Actual bodybuilders are the most approachable people you'll encounter in a gym they're desperate to talk about their hobby since no one else in their lives gives a shit.
>>76835340Not really easier to do, just more availability and easier targeting. Fatties are going to take more time and be more of a pain in the ass. Finding a woman at the gym and then have to figure out if she can't be convinced to bulk like that. Most women aren't going to super bulk if it doesn't make them happier. Most fit women already have that stupid too bulky fear and spend all their time doing hip thrusts. So you can spend two years hunting or you can just hit the larger pool that is far more likely to do it. If you are full monster mode then yeah, you can just dominate some idiot and she will probably do it. Here is an example:https://youtu.be/PNqBu4ehQEw?t=562Time stamped for Kolton explaining the background. I assume /fit/ would do better and handle their gear properly.
>>76827150"Hey, nice lifts"
>>76827150A-a-re y-you an arch-ch-aeologist? HahaCuz I h-have a l-large b-bon-
>>76827150Since this thread got derailed by coomer I'll try to reply to the best of my ability with my experience of working for 5 years at a sports facilityMost of these fit girls are just like other girls and from what i noticed at my workplace the guys they tended to date where either athletic/jacked or on the skinnier side (think ottermode). But the irony of it all is that very rarely did these people meet at the gym. So if you think you'll get a girl like that by approaching them at the gym, you're sorely mistaken. It is actually the worst place to try to get laid/ a partner. When I talked with couples a lot of the time they either meet on dating apps or social gatherings so pick your poison, given that you are attractive enough of courseMy best advice would be to work on yourself and your fitness goals and girls like this will come as an after effect, even if you're ugly having discipline and health will boost your image in the eyes of others. It may be boring and basic advice but it is so because it works
>>76835622Interesting. I thought they found this annoying since you'd think that would be everyone's lead-in.
>>76827150You can't nefotiate attraction - she is or she isn't, every woman has slightly different tastes but they agree on some things.
>>76829286Yes, if you do it that way, like a "come-on". As with any woman, start of with normal chit chat. "Hey, are you using that bench? Thanks" Later segue to other more normal shit and just sort of drop it in there, asking about about diet and food choices is always good - assume she eats like 100 grams of protein per day and when she corrects you, just be like "Well, youre a woman so I know its less, I just dont know the numbers" or somethign like that. Normal shit, but just come up with ways to reference her smaller size.Do NOT do this with weights on the bar - "Oh my gosh, I am so much stronger than you" is not a cool thing to say to a muscley girl benching 155. Thats a lot ofweight for a woman, and unels she is over 200 pounds, she probably worked hard to get there. Dont insult her.
>>76837030Not if your actually knowledgeable. The "do you compete" opening is good because it can swing to powerlfting or bikini/figure/wellness and jsjut opens the door to talking knwoeldgeably about traing - i.e. sets, reps, frequency, recovery, diet etc. The surest way to look like a douche is to ask what exercises "hit" a certain area of the body.
>>76830121Is this from that gym in Tallahassee?Also "Go take a shower and clean yourself. I want to eat your ass and pussy for dinner."
>>76830121>>76832469holy shit you losers actually think a woman typed that out.
>>76827150"Hi, my name is Anon".
>>76838322i’m sure im not the only woman on fit who would be down to roid>>76833266not sure if she has but i bet at least some women have gotten that tranny voice surgery where they thin out your vocal cords, probably infeasible without insurance paying for it though>>76833701 ftm voice is exactly what i’m afraid of, its nails on a chalkboard screetching and i could absolutely not do that for the rest of my life. im not particularly feminine either so everyone would probably think im non bonerey. i dont want people to be uncomfortable around me.
>>76839381>ftm voice is exactly what i’m afraid of, its nails on a chalkboard screetching and i could absolutely not do that for the rest of my life. im not particularly feminine either so everyone would probably think im non bonerey. i dont want people to be uncomfortable around me.Who cares how other people feel about your choices to pursue your goals? If you want to be big, be big. Pic related has a deep, brolic voice, but I think it's soothing and kind of sexyhttps://youtu.be/pV52fPV3VZc?t=26
>>76839859>Who cares how other people feel about your choices to pursue your goals? If you want to be big, be big.Nigga don't groom people into doing stuff that would potentially yield effects they don't want I say this as a person that's all for women working out and roiding but if someone says they don't want roid voice then don't go at them with the "ohh it's your goals don't care about other people go get it yass qween!" bs, don't try to portray a literal fetish as some kind of ebin positivity bs that's just not a fair way to approach the discussion and you're misleading someone Captcha ONIONS V4 kek
>>76839869>"ohh it's your goals don't care about other people go get it yass qween!" bs, don't try to portray a literal fetish as some kind of ebin positivity bs that's just not a fair way to approach the discussion and you're misleading someoneMaking an informed decision about measured PED use is different from worrying about what some goofy asshole who will never touch a weight thinks about your body and your voice. I'm sure there are completely natty chicks who get side eyed by other women.
>>76839381>im not particularly feminine either so everyone would probably think im non bonerey. i dont want people to be uncomfortable around me.Why get jacked at all then? People are gonna feel that way before you even open your mouth.
What happens if you unzip her belly
>>76839381yeah the troon voice is a major turn off unless ur a gay man
>>76839883>worrying about what some goofy asshole who will never touch a weight thinks about your body and your voiceBut this isn't the case here, she herself said she doesn't want the roid voice so why try to convince her it's ok under the pretense of "chasing your goals" when it's actually just a fetish for some people? Again I'm all for women roiding but we should be honest about this, female roid voice in general is not a good/wanted effect and the only people into it are muscle fetishists. Anything else would just be lies imo.It's not just>some goofy asshole wo never touched weightsthat dislikes it, probably 99% or more of people do, including those who lift, and even if we agree that one shouldn't base their decisions on what others think, it's an effect that goes against the innate femininity of a person and understandably even they themselves can therefore dislike it. The same way a man usually wants muscles and to be seen as big and strong, a woman wants a soft voice to sound feminine.
>>76841027sorry didn't mean to sage
>>76829753Fatfucks are fed, not bredYou decide if your kids are fat, not cellular dna
>>76841078And who does the feeding? The fatfuck that had the kids. The (non-genetic) heritability of obesity is extremely high because unhealthy, weak, flabby parents create unhealthy, weak, flabby children through habit and not knowing how to work out or regulate their eating. I've seen it myself via a minivan bowed-out by a fatfuck mother and her fatfuck kids rolling into Miccy Dees to pack on more poundage.Just say NO to fatfuck fucking.
>>76827150Tell her you really enjoyed her singing in Skid Row.
>>76836120Thanks for writing this up anon, it's very helpful. I've always been a little skeptical of the "just approach women at the gym" approach because it always seems like nobody is actually there to socialize and most people have their headphones in, etc.Dating apps are a bit of a tough one for me. I guess I get more attention than some people because there are people out there who get absolutely zero attention while I at least get a little bit (though generally not from people I'm attracted to, even if they're totally normal and honestly pretty decent-looking / cute girls sometimes). I guess I'll just have to continue leveling up physically at the end of the day.Probably the hardest bit will be finding these women in social settings that aren't the gym where I can really sell myself, since I think I come across better in-person than online. Not sure where to go for that sort of thing since I doubt that people are really looking to hook up at fitness expos, etc, either.
>>76842973>doubt that people are really looking to hook up at fitness expos, etc, either.Idk about that but I also think going to one couldn't hurt, more so thank hooking up I think potentially people could just be looking to meet fitness people in general there. But I've never been so might be way off, if there's any anons here while been to fitness expos please do chime in.Fwiw in that one video shared here like 2 weeks ago there was a guy married to a female bodybuilder who said they'd met at an expo/bodybuilding competition iirc. And he didn't seem like he himself lifted either. But could be an exception.
>>76827150The other Asian baddies thread got deleted Just needs some armpit hair
>>76827150So you want to groom girls into your sick fetish for your own pleasure, you are no better than a discord tranny.
>>76843175But that's literally what girls are for.Find one you like and train her to please you.
>>76843222Ur supposed to make babies and marry her, not turn her infertile with drugs.
>>768432624chan incels have this strange fetish where they are concerned about the fertility of women who would never touch them because its very important to them that their husbands get them pregnant.
