Did lifting help at all
>>76831188It might have if I got into it during high school. The damage is already done and it's irreversible.
>>76831188With feeling more confident and raising T to stand up for myself? OfcWith social skills? Nah lol
>>76831199>stand up for myself I’m at college where there’s no real bullying but only subtle bullying by people whom you call - muh friends. If it helps in getting spine straight against these dipshits I’m all in for it then
>>76831188I got bullied verbally more than physically because most kids would avoid fighting me (i was "big", read fat but always had large bones/shoulders) but most of the mental damage in my life came from my parents abuse and women avoiding me like the plague and being disgusted by me (even when i lost weight and got lean, you can fuck off whitepill trannies)
The opposite actually- people always “check me” or do subtle shit now because they must assume because I’m big Im down for a fight or that type of person (even though I’m pretty much an autist who just happens to lift)when I was a 68kg dork I was pretty much left alone I guess they thought why even bother. It’s annoying desu, but I live in a white trash area
>>76831205> women avoiding me like the plague and being disgusted by me (even when i lost weight and got leanYou are the first person I’m seeing who didn’t pull bitches even after being lean, did you get to sub 15% bf atleast or are you calling 20% bf as lean?How was the reaction from your peers and friends, I bet they respected you much more now
>>76831233I'm not gonna reply to anything besides the friends part because i know it's hopeless and once i give information you'll find a way to discredit it and running around circles telling that i shouldve bulked instead or whatever useless whitepill garbage.Anyways, my two friends are always supportive, sometimes people call me big and in two instances kids would pass by and jokingly do a most muscular pose near me (i'm not a skelly anymore), my mom is a nagging bitch who complains that i'm not as tall as the men in her family despite malnourishing me (in multiple ways besides overfeeding me) as a kid and spending most my childhood sickly and preventing me from doing any sportsHope that helps
I used to get bullied by the blacks in the gym but I eventually moved
>>76831188It made me more of a sissy
>>76831188Yes, making gains in literally any aspect of your life will stop you from (rightfully) feeling like a pathetic loser.
>>76831202I mean it should make it easier to say “dude that’s not funny”. You don’t have to cuck to your mates just to keep them around.
>>76831246So you never got lean and you're a fatty for life got it
>>76831391Whitepill tranny btfo i'm not playing your dance and song, women dont care about leanness btw your face and height are all that matters
>>76831188Yes. Much of my anxiety and self-doubt stemmed from people treating me like a bitch or not respecting me because I appeared very confident on the outside, but simply didn't look the part. Once I got bigger, no one said a bad word to me anymore. Now, most people I meet treat me on eye level and with a lot of respect. I no longer seek validation, I don't try to please other people, I don't try to be perfect in any way, I'm no longer afraid of saying the wrong thing or coming across a certain way. My biggest problems with social anxiety and low self-confidence were that I was afraid that people would judge me and constantly perceive me as inferior, and that is no longer the case.
>>76831202Pretty much this, in school you're mocked and segregated for your physical attributes, but beyond that you're just mocked and segregated for the lack of social skills and the self-esteem issues that it caused.
>>76831188Not really, lifting often put me at more odds because a lot of low esteemed individuals want to constantly check how tough they are.What stopped bullying was extreme escalations of violence.If they push at x escalation, I jump 2 steps above that.Been like 4 years since i green texted the story last on here so here we go>be me 15 >be bullied not even sure why>dude threatens me and punches me a few times>in the lunchroom i poor milk on his head>get beaten up>few weeks later I drop food on him>get beaten up>one day i smash one of those seat-desk things against his back and knock him down and start smashing his forehead against the ground>get beaten up later >take a bass drum stick mallet and catch him in the hallway and choke him out in front of the entire 7am everyone waiting for bell crowdFor reference those bass drum sticks are thicker than normal drumsticks and long. So i was able to hook it under his chin and lock it in my elbow creases while i got my hands on the back of his head.Zero way for him to get out of it and it was like riding a fucking bull he tried to body slam me against the ground, but just kept holding on until he passed out.By this point this had become such a regular occurrence that basically it could not be ignored.They tried to push charges, but we had months of documentation of pictures of me coming home with black eyes and bloodied up lips and shit. School refused to do anything because it was outside school when it happened.Cops refused to do anything because no evidence.I was home schooled after that.Joined military, anger issues, calmed down years later.I work in music now and have a qt girlfriend and dogs.He lives at home in his mid thirties and was a girlfriend beater from gossip talk I heard.
>>76831440Wrong lol also you're basically saying humans are inherently lookist
>>76831188It helps but it's not the whole solution.
No
>>76831188Lift all you want but you're still a faggot lmaot. bully
>>76831699I will crush your windpipe big boy. Imagine thing the panic in your eyes. Delicious.
>>76831202you know in colllege you have the option to just ignore people you dont like right? not like in school where you were confined within the same room for 6 hours a day with modern teachers who absolutely do not give a fuck
>>76831728>you know in colllege you have the option to just ignore people you dont like right? Yeah I’ve done that, they’ve done that to me too. But hear me out, where’s the fucking fun in that. It’s about to end in a year and I need my intimidation revenge man to man. It’s time to be a fucking bully anon, 3kgs of more muscles is all I need, wait and fucking watch. And yeah wish me luck.
>>76831188a little bit. but not nowhere near as i expected. when you are used to get pushed around it doesnt matter if you look like a tank or not vs a true bully. he can smell your insecurity. its a deterrence to the part time bully though.what helps is fighting back as good as you can. you need to train verbally and body language more.
>>76831188I've never been bullied my entire life with the exception of 1 coked out 40yo spic and 1 42yo drunk spic. Both of which wanted to size me up being 6'3". Everyone else has either been nice to me or didn't care. Most ball busting has been friendly. And I'm an autistic fuck who was into MLP back in the day (not wearing merch but if someone asked about bronies I would say I watched the show; even asked the tech guy to burn some songs to a flash drive).How do you people manage to get to that point of getting harassed?
>>76831246Your problem is Self esteem not self worth.Unironically use hookers. They did wonders for me in building my self worth and self esteem with women.Everyone's "body count to get bitches out of your system" is different, mine was around 16, but at the 22 mark I feel sexually retired and everything after is just nothing Once you git gud at sex (positive feedback from them, and self esteem) the only thing left is social because you understand your value.For me I'm mid but half the girls think I'm beautiful, muh dick is average but having one slap your butt after a session because you did such a good job is a kind of kino I hope you get to enjoy.
>>76831188i got more confident in my body but it didnt really do much for other stuff.like i got more confident showing my naked body for girls but i am still not confident in how good i am in bed.
for myself it caused an uproar of emotions on how drastic everything around me changed after consistently doing it
>>76831188it did not. i fixed it though. took til my late twenties. i remember it settling in as early as first grade. sad but i’m free now
>>76831727I can tell you've been bullied. Sorry but those revenge fantasies will never become reality, just move on, loser.
>>76831912NTA, but fondly holding onto memories of you bullying and fantasizing about still doing or actually still doing it is in the same ballpark of pathetic. It's the exact same insecurity but manifested differently
>>76831906How did you fix it?
>>76831188I was already strong so those that bullied me usually understood that I could fight back and flatten them, those who tried never managed to actually hurt me enough for me to consider fighting back, escalating wasn't worth it and would have just gotten me suspendedThe worst that happened was a random dude who approached me, buttheaded me, except he hit my forehead instead of my face, and he immediately turned his back to brag to his friends "Yooooo duuuude! You saw that?!!!!", I only got an itchy forehead from that
I never got bullied, but I'm not very good socially at the best of times. I'd describe lifting like this: It will get you through the door, but if you don't have any charisma, it doesn't mean anything. I don't have a particularly deep voice, and I guess the way I talk doesn't lend itself to loud places (typically longer, more thought-out sentences and such). The result is that even though I can approach people, and people will approach me, within about five minutes they'll realise that I'm not a very fun person, I guess, and then we'll just kind of part ways. However it is good if you're a bit weird because people just assume you're doing some kind of joke they don't get, for instance I enjoy hogging karaoke and just belting out songs as loudly and badly as I can, people think it's funny and then come over to me afterwards, only to realise me no talk good, and soon leave. Interesting situation to be in.
What is this pussy ass faggot thread?
>>76831812>when you are used to get pushed around it doesnt matter if you look like a tank or not vs a true bully. he can smell your insecurity. its a deterrence to the part time bully though.I used to be pushed around but when i got the right friends and changed my ways, rarely someone will disrespect me. But i really believe getting big with a good haircut made my hunter eyes more appealing and people don't really fuck with me.
>>76831188>before lifting guys want a piece of me because I’m “a mark”>after lifting guys want a piece of me because I’m intimidating and they can’t deal with it
>>76832534Found the bully who peaked in middle school
>>76831188Never got bullied in my whole life as I've been told I have very disturbing body language. Was a dyel skinny skeleton back in HS but was already weird then. Now I'm jacked and still weird so I never get picked on.Still extremely socially retarded but can't be helped, I grew up isolated in bum fuck nowhere
>>76831835>Unironically use hookersI did and couldn't get it up, i dont have porn and gooning skill issues inb4 you start projecting about that'
>>76831188lol no, I even did around 8 years of boxing. Sorry to tell you anon but they lied to you, its entirely an internal development, best thing you can do its gaslight yourself into confidence because you can raise 100 pounds over your head.Still, I like to exercise so I gained a hobby I guess.
>>76831188It helped a bit. I'd definitely say I'm more comfortable in my skin and able to just "exist" in public around others, something that used to always be distressing under nearly any circumstances.Unfortunately I feel like psychologically the damage had already been done and obviously no amount of lifting can overcome the internalized feelings from a lifetime of poor self image, social rejection, and isolation. Like yeah I can go to the grocery store without having a panic attack now, but I still can't relate to or feel comfortable engaging with any of the people I meet there.
>>76832584real
Experience and mental models are the only way you beat this Get experience, build mental models through experience, winThat's how you do itNothing else will kill the anxiety
>>76831188Its helping me but I had a normal childhood. Most of my anxiety comes from trauma during the late teens/early 20s which made me self isolate for a long time. Lifting is pushing me to come out of it and I feel like I deserve better but we'll see.
>>76831188I fixed my low confidence before lifting, anxiety never went away even with lifting though. Lifting however did help with discipline, even when I had a lot of stuff to do I wouldn't skip lifting day and I think that did wonders to my self improvement
>>76832843FDamn. I have no idea how to cure that, but for me I had no problems getting hard with a literal 2/10. Are you on antidepressants or some kind of medication, cause if so it's the culprit not your genetics. Dr Josef talks about how bad that is for most people on YouTube
>>76831188No. You'll still have social anxiety but with slightly bigger muscles.What will help is a good therapist. But its going to take a lot of hard work. Changing the outside is easy but changing inside is hard.Start reading this and doing the exercises to give you an idea of what to expect and where to startwww.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Social-AnxietyAnd dont listen to these 4chan losers with their "therapy is women and gays" , "its a jewish scam" etc.You already lost years of your life, dont lose the rest of it because you listened to internet clowns that just want you to fail.
>>76833158>>don’t listen to people on here telling you therapy is a scam, you’ve already lost half your life etcIncredibly rare based post on this board.
It can help with confidence a little bit. Social anxiety or fear of confrontation not so much. I don’t really have problems with aggressive people but I keep to myself, I’m 6’3” and have a bit of a resting bastard face. Also live in a pretty white area.
>>76833158t dr shonenberg kys
>>76833158It's very dependent on the therapist. Finding your person is hard, and 99% of therapy is to help you come with the conclusion.My attacks are just primal instinct not designed for urban mousetopia and feeling isolated. therapy can't fix that for me
>>76831188I never dealt with bullying, but I'm still anxious and making it hard for small talk.
>>76833184I've never had a jewish therapist so what's this supposed to even mean?
>>76831188I had gutter level self esteem throughout school but became confident in my late teens early 20s. The I became a fat alcoholic whose confidence dropped but am working on getting back to the sexy me but without my retarded brain. It's an up and down thing apparently. Once I get good looking I might slide back to the gutter and got to be vigilant about that
>>76833187Yeah getting a good therapist is the key.First guy I got kinda sucked. He got transferred to a different clinic and the chick I got next was absolutely awesome.Then after a year or so with her. her husband got accepted to medical school or something and moved out of state.The chick I have now is mediocre, but I only go every few months just for "post treatment maintenance" so to speak and not the weekly sessions i was doing for actual treatment before my disorder improved.As for the rest of your gibberish about primals and moustopia I have no idea what the fuck your raving about but you sound like you should see a therapist about it
>>76833158>>76833168>>76833197>>76833215
>>76833119I might just be coping but i felt utter disgust with the chick and felt like i dissociated the entire time, her demeanor, her being slightly chubby, how open she was etc also she had a tattoo which even while trying to masturbate kills my boners completelyI cant imagine myself with a woman that's not as emotonally and socially retarded as i am or woese. I feel like it's a good defense mechanism keeping from getting used by some gold digger if any feel enough pity to use me
>>76833255Forgot the most important detail, i never took any psychologist prescribed medication in my life and the last type of medication i ever consumed was codeine two years ago during my pneumonia alongside some antibiotics
>>76833254t. doesnt have depression, never went to therapy and doesnt even lift.Retards like you are why mental hospitals turned in to torture chambers 100-200 years ago.They said exercise cures mental illness so they'd force them to exercise and do hard labor.When they only got worse, they said "you're just not working hard enough" so they beat them until they died from exhaustion and rhabdo
>>76831188anxious wreck mpst of my life. started lifting at 30. it helps a lot to know for a fsct that you bench more than 99% of people you meet.
>>76833255>broke 4channer on neetbux thinks gold diggers are going to trick him into sex and steal all his wealthlmao this fucking place really is the poster child of serious mental problems
>>76833299Either you struggle with reading or are playing dumb on purpose
>>76833288you're a whiny little bitch lol no wonder you go to therapy
>>76833311yes yes we all know how cool and tough you are because you dont have mental problems that affect the quality of life.But yet for some reason you're so triggered by people you never met seeking help that you post memes about it on an anime pedo image board.
>>76831188Nope. Worsened my body dysmorphia on top of that.
>>76831188It did. I don't feel like a retarded twig walking the streets anymore, now I'm a retarded trunk.Didn't help with my social anxiety tho, just made me feel ready for fights at any moment.
>>76831188A small amount, but I still have bitch face and am a pussy inside.I did boxing and mma too, but still a pussy, just slightly less so.The best thing I did was cognitive behavioural therapy, counselling and meditation. Mental healthy requires mental activities.
>>76831440This>>76831459No, he's saying they are when you're young, but not when adult.>>76831202>>76831383You gotta practice by being more sociable, but also you will accept over time that you won't ever be 'witty' or funny as some others, and some people just have the gift of the gab.
>>76833359>cognitive behavioural therapythis is the key.And like said above - changing the outside is easy, changing the inside is hard.
>>76831188no. test E did
>>76833381to add on to this. lifting is a hobby not a cure or solution. Test E did make my social anxiety disappear basically. never had low confidence or never was bullied tho
>>76833388No it didnt. Unless you were clinically low T to begin with. Or you never had actual social anxiety. Normies think being shy or a little nervous around strangers is social anxiety, but its not.Of course its placebo and it works
>>76833374>No, he's saying they are when you're young, but not when adult.They start complying with rules as adults due to brainwashing. The personality thing is just an excuse
>>76833393got cut off for some reasonI was saying if its placebo and it works then consider yourself lucky
>>76833395It's not, plenty of uggos are good socially because they're funny, especially men, and plenty of attractive people can be completr social piranhas. It's not always the case, but it's not uncommon. For example: I've had a few chick's at my factories I've worked in fall for me, and I've never struggled too much with getting women because I'm in shape, but I struggle to get the respect of men and women older than me because I'm passive and not particularly witty or funny. This has lead to me being mocked and ostracised by men in the engineering teams I've worked in, despite being handsome enough to get women, and also made it hard to make new friends.
>>76833254I can't see it, where is it?
>>76831188I was neurotic and imagined everything as a slight against me. Then I got some really close friends in middle school and became sociable, charming even, then my friends were gone after highschool, and I returned to the spiteful mutant freak mentality.I lived like a Prince in a fairytale kingdom for 6 years. Now I have become the swamp ogre again, the wandering outcast.I used to go up to random people just out of boredom and try to make them smile.Now I am afraid to talk to other men, let alone women.
>>76833465>Just be a clown to barely get human treatmentBrutal
>>76833255That's why I said hookers anon. Pay for half hour to save money and build your confidence.Women aren't delicate or scary, and hookers are some of the nicest women I've ever met unironically (few ok ones)
>>76833215I'm in therapy and they're a bandaid.For me I have this primal urge for pain and pleasure so I need outdoors or something otherwise I lose it.This is because I'm not made for urban safe mouse Utopia (documentary, look it up)
>>76833576yeah yeah you're such a badass anime warrior superhero you cant bear to live in modern peaceful societyGo join the Foreign Legion or the Yakuza or something then. But we both know you wont because your just a giant 14 year old pussy bitch
>>76833590I'm a literal zogbot you stupid nigger. Rucking helps me stay sane, and when I'm tired I walk without weight
>>76833598of course you are.
>>76831188YesBut I was already tall.
>>76831188Nah, my anxiety is genetic. Not fixable. Was never bullied or anything. Lifting made me happier though. Becoming strong enough to not need help from other people and to know I could win whatever fights I would need to gave me peace, and made it easier to be a recluse.
>>76833158AA was my therapy, my sponsor was a good guy
>>76833631yeah I coped like that for a long time too.First off unless your a nigger, you're not getting into any fights as an adult.You dont need help from other people until you do. Then you're going to stuck somewhere alone with no one to call or even care about.I couldnt even get a routine colonoscopy because they wont even do the procedure unless you bring someone with you to take you home. Not even taking an uber or bus was acceptable. No one wants to be a recluse in their house all day alone every day. You just dont want to go do things because social situations cause discomfort. And the discomfort of isolation is less painful and scary than the discomfort of socializing.Read this to start understanding just how fucked up you are:https://www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/~/media/CCI/Consumer-Modules/Stepping-out-of-Social-Anxiety/Stepping-out-of-Social-Anxiety---Module-3---Overcoming-Avoidance.pdf
>>76833608>t. Unemployed keyboard warrior
>>76833571I cant see how that helps at all. Wow i'm a virgin loser and next thing i fuck some cheap meat std ridden whore and i'm still and incel loser. Tremendous.
>>76831188running helps to reduce how much i ruminate on things
>>76831188I'm an autistic manlet so nobody is intimidated by me but a black 19 year old (female) complemented my body, so that makes me feel like a real man
>>76831188Not even a little bit no, I could wake up as a supermodel and it wouldn’t make a difference.Also it’s full blown schizoid now.
>>76831188No, but martial arts did. It helped me to remain calm under stressful situations.
>>76833656Nah, I understand it all already and my brain is beyond all that. Even alcohol can't suppress my anxiety, I tried that and it has no anti-anxiety effect all the way until black out. Gave up. Not worth. I can take care of myself.
>>76831188Did you guys receive serious bullying?Even bullies get bored after a while I've found.I personally got much more permanent damage from my first romantic steps in my teens, made me cope about everyone being so shallow.I always saw bullying as something natural and I was a little asshole myself to others anyway.
>>76833744Sounds like winning to me
>>76833656Not him and I agree with you about the avoidance thing and how important it is to have people around you.But the "not getting into fights as an adult" is not necessarily true and it does tie into the needing friends part.It's good to be able to do damage even if you never end up needing it, if your wife comes home one day and tells you that one of the male parents harassed her in the park where she took your kids to play you can't really sit down and talk it out with your wife, you won't even want to.You will be going to the park to seek that guy instinctively.Now you either can do the damage yourself if he tries to act tough or you bring a friend with you to help and maybe control the situation a bit if things get out of hand.But not confronting and as a result, very realistically, not getting into a fight with the guy is the avoidance part.
>>76833288I want to give you shock treatment to cure you of your faggotry
>>76834063the 4chan dyels are definitely in a tizzy today
>>76831188Just a little because I look much better. However my biggest issue was my parents I just wish they showed me an ounce of love and support and I still have an insatiable craving for that. However, realising that it's a skill issue on their end and not mine did help because I no longer blame myself for feeling unloved.I think 95% of the time anxiety happens because of your family/shitty school aka the people you spend most of your time with.
>>76831188Getting fit helped. Random girls talk to me in the supermarket all the time now. I still cant get my brain to make coherrent witty replys, but that a whole other issue. Why isnt there a gym for the mind.
I’m 191cmI am the bully
