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>>76848831
did a nice braaplek this morning. feels good man

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Did a funky overtraining LR today because I have nothing better to do. Pretty groovy 1E 4M 1E 2M 2T 2M 1E 4M 1E. I know it's not optimal and I'm
slow as shit but I do not care.

>>76848835
Incredibly based

white whores only

What's your favorite brand of running gear? Cycling has the big name brands but then also a bunch of smaller stuff that makes really good gear like Attaquer and Eliel. I'm looking for stuff like that.

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Damn crosswalk cost me my 6 min mile.

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>Strained my achilles or got tendinitis a week and a half ago
>Couldn’t even walk and my tendon and ankle were majorly swollen
>Compressed and strapped up my ankle
>Kept rooning 10+ miles every day
>It’s almost healed 11 days later
Is the solution always to just keep rooning unless something has snapped or you broke a bone?

>>76848831
i love black women

Eh, way, way, way, way too long of eye lashes.

>>76848835
>160bpm Average Heart Rate
Enjoy your no gains from all that junk miles.

>>76849040
Heart rate training is a meme for casuals who don’t want to push themselves. You get faster by running faster. End of story

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>>76849059
Damn straight. If you cannot run a 5k at your 800m pace, you will never make it.

meine gotte

did 92 miles maybe more this week

fink most ever

remember last time i did 90 i fink was fairly new to doing.longer stuff and ii was exhausted by end

but this.time i feel alri albeit will be doing couple easy days now

but last time was mostly just easier stuff

diss time its mental coz had a 5 mile easy day and speed interval sess and like a few days with tempo work

and i stillnmade 92.and feel better than last time. just shows the improvement gone from doing the long distances and acclimatistion of the body to high mileage

absolutely.

bloody mental

propa phwoarin aint i

the days were summat like

14
21
16
14
5
7
15

15 today

and whats weird i actally felt quite fresh coz of the 5 and even though 5 included tempo and track

but fing is even.when i do hard workouts i feel more rested after because the mileage on the day is relatively very low

since doing lots of long distance runs my body is very much like used to doing 12-14 miles and.not really feeling tired umless.i.upgrade it to include tempo efforts

actually fink i touched tempi pace on 4 of the days. today included coz felt fresh but had hard styff yesterday too

anticipT will feel slovenly tomorrow so next 2 days defo garn.be like 5-6 mile short runs

woops meant 7 included tempo and interval

i lie that wasnt even tempo i did that day it was more like maybe 10k pace with some faster bits some slower bits, basicallt all out over 4.miles to the extent i can on streets whoch is really impossible coz you have to stop for corners and i have like sustained incline on one bit which just kills the speed

and then did the 15 intervals straight afta

may have only been 3 tempo days nit sure. trying to work out if i did on day 1. that would make 4. cant rember. i fink i did because i feel like i rember anticipating the 21 miler would be rough because not fully rested from day before but dunno

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still slow af, but pb'd my 10k today

>>76849188
Funny meme but the guy in the middle is fine, it's just people are way too anal about it.
>>76849222
Congrats anon!

>was extremely hungover for parkrun last week, terrible time
>didnt drink once for a whole week, first time in years
Let’s see what happens at parkrun tomrrow

just planning new training week

M: rest
T: Junk miles
W: Junk miles
T: Junk miles
F: rest
S: Junk miles
S; Junk long run

>>76848954
No absolutely not. But sometimes yes. Particularly with tendon injuries.

>>76848884
My favourite is whatever is on sale. I have stuff from all the big brands they're all basically the same.
There's plenty of boutique brands but I've never tried any because I ain't paying €80 for a simple pair of shorts. Rhone, Tracksmith, Ten Thousand. Rab. They look nice anyway if you don't mind splashing the cash.

so what are you actually rooning from anons?

The only valid training zone is zone 1.

>>76849954
zone 0 = not running
zone 1 = running

there are only two zones

>>76850007
There's actually 3 zones
zone 0 = not running
zone 1 = running
zone 2 = junk miles = having fun = not running

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>>76850145
You are both wrong:
>zone 0 = not running
>zone 1 = warming up
>zone 2 = slow, dull, borimg, no speed gainz
>zone 3 = junk miles
>zone 4 = speed and mental gainz
>zone 5 = GOTTA GO FAST!!! MAJOR SPEED GAINZ!!!
>zone 6 = afraid of distance (aka sprinting)

>>76849946

A mundane life mostly. I like competing for podiums and being among the best in my age group. Im terrified of a basic life of sitting around not doing much of anything, talking about stupid shit and drinking. Its a fate worse than death to me

>>76849946
(You) because you creep me out.

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>>76850219
>guts for distance running

GUT for sprinting

>>76850584
David Rudisha has gained closer to 100 lbs. he is legit obese these days

Nice gym session today. 50 minutes mixed cardio then some squats and RDLs. Easy run tomorrow, dare I say it, zone 2.

>>76850772
>zone 2
Enjoy your heart attack you junk running fuck!

>>76850772
>not doing zone 5
You are never going to get fast.

Need cute slime 18-20 year old runner twink BF to be my
> mature for his age
prince

Any hybrid Chads in here? Currently 158lb, bulking to 180lb while training for a full troon.

>>76850959
>Bulking
>To 180lb

Holy auschwitz mode

>>76850967
I'm a dwarf (5'9) and not fat, so 180lb is a lot.
>>76850972
yes, it's over. I doxxwd myself.

>>76850967
this is a running thread amigo. I'm bulking to 160lb which will be easily the heaviest I've ever been

>>76850967
my best running weight is 155. Ive been between 175 - 180 before and Im a lot slower

>>76850977
Already triangulated your location. Sending my team of black rapists to your house as we speak.

>>76850959
I'm curious how much you can squat at that weight

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If anyone plays Pikmin Bloom feel free to ad me! It's a fun game to play while running.

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Earlier this year when I started running, my 5k time was ~45 minutes

>>76851022
Very good. Did you lose weight? What mileage you doing?

>>76851003
>house
Nigga I make 70k/year I'm never going to own a house
>>76851010
at 158lb? 1rm is probably like 185lb (clean, good depth). Squatting is a cursed lift for distance runners. I'm much better at deadlift. Mainly focusing on upper body hypertrophy atm though.

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Ordered new shoes (from Nike) on Monday. Still not delivered. Life is suffering. Was looking forward running in them at the weekend.

>>76851028
lost some weight, 30-40 miles / week

>>76851035
I did 90kg for 4 reps today weighing 150lbs. I find squatting great for running. I'm coming from a pure running background with no real strength training before this year. Definitely feeling stronger and more robust in my stride these days. And little niggly injuries are way down.

>>76851035
>Nigga I make 70k/year I'm never going to own a house
wtf dude the black rapists are already on the way. Whose house are they fucking going to??

I'm worried it's going to be slippery outside tomorrow morning, what can I do so I don't slip and fall when running?

>>76851067

damnit anon they're here. They sound angry and aroused and Im not sure what to do

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>>76851098
>They sound angry and aroused and Im not sure what to do
It'll be easier for everyone if you just relax.

>>76851098
>They sound angry and aroused and Im not sure what to do
Bro you train for this RUN away

>>76851072
run on grass or trails. if you're running on the roads run literally on the road where the cars have been driving.

>>76851067
I live in wetback country. Black men are not safe here. I have nothing to fear.

>>76851130
>Black men are not safe here.
Why are so many of them going to Columbia then? Not saying that's where you live but apparently a lot of black men who date abroad go to Columbia I guess cause its cheap or something.

>>76850959
I was able to hit 1/2/3/4 this summer running 70 miles a week but then I bulged a disc doing OHP and haven’t squatted or deadlifted since July

>>76851235
>squatted
the correct past-formation is squot

>>76851247
It's actually Skwat, and not "squat" but "sk-WAT"

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I think my tapering needs work lmao. Running Philly marathon Sunday but was too busy to run consistently this month, just hammered long ones when possible.

>>76851254
skwuht did you say to me?

>>76851278
You're a squid now, you're a kid now.
YOU'RE A SQUID
YOU'RE A KID
YOU'RE A SQUID
YOU'RE A KID
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke05YELaAgA

>>76851235
That is ver impressive, mirin'. Sorryabout the injury.

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tomorrow im gonna roon 26 km even if it kills me or even worse; having to slow down my roon to a comical degree, i failed to cross the 26 km mark TWICE and i won't fail a third time >:(((

Is it stupid to recommend a max cushion neutral trainer as a first shoe to a c25k enjoyer? I read the reviews and those made pretty stiff and stable these days

>>76851514
There’s lots of debate around heel striking/fore foot striking that people will swear was is right and one is wrong. but the bigger factor seems to be over-striding while landing which leads to more injuries. I think the max cushion shoes tend to make new runners more comfortable with heel striking and that heel striking is more susceptible to over striding. Nothing inherently wrong with max cushion, just watch your form.
Another thing to look at is the “drop” on the shoe. That’s the difference in height between the toe and heel. Max cushion also tends to be higher drop which also tends to lead to heel striking. But you can find low/zero drop max cushion.

>>76851514
i got the asics gel kayano 32 or whatever they're up to. they're very well cushioned. they're for mid-foot strikers. They're horrible to walk in due to the cushioning but great for running. they're very stable. they're typically recommended for fatter/ heavier cunts. I rate them.
t. only been rooning about a year

>>76851514
>>76851764
i started with brooks ghosts (wore them for years as general purpose/ walking shoes), they're good vanilla but didn't have enough padding for when i first started trooning outside. I then got brooks glycerin GTS, but didn't like them. Both of them are for heel strikers, which I finally worked out I am not. Once I swapped to a mid strike friendly shoe everything felt better.

>That horrible feeling in your nose and throat when you inhale the cold winter air
Summerbros....

>>76851883
It's supposed to be late Spring in this city but the temps have been the same as they were in the middle of Winter kek and everyone's been getting sick kek. Can't wait for real warmth to arrive

>>76848831
Didn't he play for the lakers?

>been rooning for a week now (15 miles with some rest days)
>shoes were too loose these past few days (I didn't realize they felt good)
>got some blisters on one of my toes and on the bottom of one of my feet

My next run they will be snug. It also felt a bit weird running today like each of my steps were different and chatgpt said all of that stuff is attributed to lose shoes. Perhaps with properly tight shoes I can go a bit faster.

>>76851183
Isn't there a decently sized black population in Columbia? Also everyone likes latinas

>>76852013
>Isn't there a decently sized black population in Columbia?
No idea
>Also everyone likes latinas
I don't, they are second hand Indians as far as I'm concerned

>>76851997
I think tomorrow I will go buy some more running clothes. 1 kit is not enough.

>>76851997
>>76852029
>looked at local running gear store
>there's a 2/5k soon

I could do it. I mean it would be easy to just show up, make a donation and do it. I could buy some cold weather gear tomorrow and then register. They said it's for runners and walkers so with my 5k time at like 32 minutes I wouldn't be last. I really could go do it. I have been thinking about it. Maybe if they mention it when I go tomorrow I'll do it.

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>when you run a city marathon and stay in a “fancy hotel” (by black people standards)

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>>76851014
added

>>76852102
I never got the appeal of wallpaper.

>>76851072
run in trail shoes

>>76852162
In the bathroom of all places.

>>76851756
>the bigger factor seems to be over-striding while landing which leads to more injuries
Ironically, overstriding doesn't lead to injuries while forefoot striking because you absorb and dissipate the impacts with your calves.

>>76851883
I love winter rooming, the cold air acts as coolant for my shitty lungs ruined by years of smoking.

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>>76851072
Wasn't much slippery in the end, just a few frozen puddles here and there. I was just a bit worried because yesterday evening when walking the dog it was already a bit shiny on the ground.

ig the cold is motivating though. Weeee.

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Should I buy Stryd?
I live on area of little hilly, I think running by power instead of pace would be good.
Money is not an issue.

>>76852759
High cadence forefoot striking just moves the injuries to your foot and ankles. I was over striding with heels and switched. Still get injuries but in lower leg now.

>>76848831
>It will feel like you're going slow, you are; don't worry about setting good times for a couple of months
no... i want to progress faster...
i'm about to start week 4 of c25k and already feel like i could "run" for 20 minutes

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>saturday long run

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>>76851495
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
just 4 more km until I can say I can jog 30km

aren't you guys too skinny from all the cardio?

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>why yes I DO listen to teenage white girl pop-music on my runs
>how did you know?

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>>76851036
these badboys just came. Nike Ultrafly. already done my run today but just walking around in them they feel very nice. lightweight but sturdy. the grip on them is insane. wouldn't pay full price but half price looks like a very good deal.
sadly the nice summer tan is completely gone. milk bottle legs for the next few months.

10k run today 42:45 nice and easy. few beers now and a rest day tomorrow. we go again next week.

>>76853257
im not even trying to be mean anon but they look like those shoes clowns wear with the comically round tip of the shoes

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>>76853268
the toe box is a bit wide. hopefully that's not a problem while running. they look alright from a side profile anyway. not that I really care what they look like.

>>76853257
why are you legs so far apart

>>76853082
That weird. I only ever get foot and ankle injuries when I trip over something and end up bending my foot in ways that it was clearly not meant to lol.

>>76853287
Wide toe box is good, narrow toe box is designed by malicious actors who want to clip your wings.
Fly high, anon. Godspeed.

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>>76853230
You don't have to be skinny. I'm bulking right now. GOMAD, 5000-6000 cals/day.
>long troon

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>>76853156
Saturday long roon is the best though

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You can see where I started to run just by looking at my weight loss. Literally started mid-August. First week I did 4 miles, now I'm up to over 30 and still adding every week.

>>76852048
>went to local store today
>asked about their warm gear (didn't use that phrasing)
>they had 1 long sleeve and 1 pair of pants
>walked out

I see local shop are the same as cycling. It's easier to just buy online.

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>>76854106
seriously lmao
>went to one two months ago or so looking for some short shorts
>oh we just have a few on sale because the winter collection is coming in
>ask if it isnt still warm enough for the short shorts
>oh yeah you dont need the winter shit yet at all

like why the fuck do they not just carry the "summer" shit year round. I haven't seen serious snow in years.

And indeed the amount of clothes they do have is abysmal. Like why even bother.

I also checked out H&M's sports section today, which is honestly not bad if you don't know it's a shitty ripoff of the better quality shit Uniqlo sells. Guess I will have to check uniqlo for some cold weather shit soon.

Any recommendations in general? Long sleeve shirts? Thin zippered jackets? Those arm socks? I feel like for legs I can just keep wearing shorts forever. Women in Russia wear skirts in freezing temps too lmao

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Not a bad run today.

>>76851235
How fast/far were you running with those numbers? That's a decent accomplishment.

>>76854289
long sleeve base layer $20
long sleeve top $20
cheap ass gloves $5

that will do as long as it's not raining. could add a hat and snood for extra warmth

>>76854366
NTA anon but I'm not gonna buy cheap stuff. A bit of enjoyment of the sport, for both cycling and running is having nice gear. I'm a short and staggeringly ugly and hate the way I look. I refuse to buy nice clothes for myself because who tf am I gonna show off to? When I'm out riding or running though that all changes. I can look down, or in the mirror and think to myself "yeah I look good, I like the way I look" and that gear is the ONLY clothing that gives me that feeling, even when I've had to dress up nice for events is the same feeling of disgust. So I'll spend the extra money to get nice stuff, so I can feel good about myself for however brief that is.

>anons don't know the basics of layering

What ever happened with the bare foot running craze and all those five finger and super minimalist shoes? They were huge what like 5-10 years ago and now it seems to have died out.

I enjoy rooning but I think being overweight is causing issues, especially with my knees. I have really thick running shoes, I make sure my form is good but my knees get sore after I run, I think it must be that I'm at least 15-20lbs overweight. Even if I take a break for weeks, the soreness comes back after one short run

I don't know, is that why I'm having issues?

>>76854413
it wasn’t the cure all it was sold as. A lot of the benefits oversold and a lot of the negatives undersold. (The born to run book still a decent read though). That said, zero-drop and minimalist shoes have their market. And I think more people are moving towards shoe rotations that include lower drop/minimalist shoes

>>76854413
Almost all got injuries after buying into the lie that was Born to Run. McDougall, just like most such as Dr. Cucuzzella, don't take major variables into account like the fact that the Tarahumara have certain adaptations from the start due to their genetics that enable them to run well without injuries in minimalist footwear. It encourages forefoot striking, which has a much higher injury rate than even heel striking because it causes a lot more stress on muscles like the tibias. The adaptations you get from this can be good as it can support your stride, but it's something you add in sparingly.

>>76854413
I don't think they were ever huge. They were kind of a meme so people were aware of them but the number of people actually running in them was always tiny.

>>76854413
zone two is the new craze now anon.

>>76854669
>reading posts about how to get faster on r*ddit
>you would expect the answers to be "just run faster for longer bro"
>everyone says just do more easy runs

I'm not an expert and I just started running but that doesn't seem right.

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>>76854444
i am probably that overwieght and do get some soreness, but it is just the general soreness that comes with exercise, anon. This soreness gets less and less the more I exercise, like DOMS e.g., I went on a holiday and didn't roon or do anything for 3 weeks. I started exercising again 3 weeks ago and only now has the soreness and DOMS and whatnot associated with starting again settled down. It is normal. unless you are getting sharp, stabbing, acute, intense pain during and after I wouldn't stress too much.

>>76850584
Usain Bloat

>>76854683
it is a method that elite and professional athletes, who train all day most days because it is their job, use which has been latched onto by amateur/ recreational exercise enjoyers. The meme is how it is pushed on these amateurs and beginners by the industry grifters.

>>76854713
I thought it may be something like that. Ah the pros, who spend 90 hours a week running do it so it'll work for me, who spends 6 hours a week running.

Newb with sedentary job here. Do I HAVE to strength train to get rid of shin splints or can I slack off with less load or something?
I swim and I'm thin but overall my body is untrained.

>>76854683
The idea is that the best way to get better at running is run more. And running slower allows your body to recover faster and run more miles. In zone 2 you can work your aerobic base which is a big part of running.
I do agree though people have become too spastic about it and for most people starting out just running is the best. Just run at a pace that you aren’t immediately out of breath and occasionally mix in some faster pace and running up hill and you are golden.

>>76848831
>>76848831
BLACK WOMEN SEXOOOOOO

>>76854737
I did lots of shin stretching and calf raises (bodyweight) and also heel walks back and forward to failure pretty much every day for a while and the shin splints went away. another one was also making sure my cadence is decent >170. When i first started I was bouncing along stomp stomp smashing my shins. but like every cunt says over and over, start off slow and start off with short distances and only increase by a small amount each week. c25k goes alright. the halhigdon in the preamble has some good ones too.

>>76854683
Here's the facts, anon:
>volume trumps intensity
>distance events rely more on your aerobic system than your anaerobic system
>zone 1-2 develops your aerobic system the best
>it's better to do a lot of easy runs that allows you to not only get volume, but also build your aerobic system
However, you just started running. Don't worry about the zone shit. Infact, I'll tell you to not worry at all if you are not doing long (2hr+) runs. Just learn to pace better so your pace is consistent throughout your run (with few exceptions like hills.) Once you start doing 4 runs a week with one of them being 2 hours or more, then worry about zone shit because you are very likely doing distance events or doing an activity like boxing that requires a big aerobic base.

Now, that's not to say intensity is not important. It is. I will tell you, even if you are low volume, to do some harder intensity. There's a way to do it while on lower mileage. They're called fartleks. When you are able to do 30minutes straight with a consistent pace, add them in during one run per week.

>>76854866
>fartlek
i just started doing the braaplek session. they're pretty pretty fun.

What's a 1:40 half marathon finish sound like? What about a 3:20 full?

>>76854968
You hear those cowbells, woos, and the MC announcing names and stuff.

>>76853245
time for your upgrade hoss
https://youtu.be/4jixHk6N0_4?&t=116

>be doing long run
>stsy in zone 2
>get to final mile
>1/4 mile left
>heart rate goes into zone 3
>all aerobic gains lost
Fml.

>>76855211
all junk

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I'm debuting on half-marathon tomorrow. Wish me luck fags.

>>76855237
Yes. Just spending a little time in zome 3 just killed any progress I made during that run and set my aerobic base back. I feel ashamed.

>>76855364
Good luck!

>>76855396
happens to the best of us anon. the dreaded z3 wipeout.

>>76855364
beat my time for me ty

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>Haven't rooned in 6 weeks
>Just recovered from covid
>Took 28 mins to do 5k in the rain, lungs burning after 2k

>>76855364
Enjoy pal

>>76855552
It could be worse, you could have ADHD finish your 5k and 10k runs and feel great only to then get bored, crash and burn and have to start over again.

>>76855552
coupla weeks and you'll be back in fighting form again anon. nae stress nae bother

any other anons running philly today wake up and 2am and unable to get back to sleep? just me? hahaha

>>76855706
That's very normal, anon. Though for me it's usually right now at 3am.

>>76854688
Fair enough. I guess I just fell for the psyop that running destroys your knees so every little pain scares me

Bought a weight vest now I can get my zone 2 in by pacing around the house or walking instead of going on my epic runs that destroy my pinky toes

>>76855706
Yeah that's literally me right now so I'm pacing with my weight vest

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That's a fairly small amount of fuel for a 10-mile run, I'd say?

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>>76850219
Guts mentioned

>>76855803
you selling noodles on the way or what?

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Philly Marathon starts in 2.5hrs, rate my kit

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>Hurt leg running
>try running after it has recovered
>turns out it was still sore when running
>keep going because I think I can manage and don't want to miss out on a run
>cripple myself
>1 week later still very sore
I'm not going to be able to run until next year am I

>>76855954
bitta zone 2 will sort you out m8. it is good for what ails you

>>76854713
the only meme is that this is a new breakthrough in training methods. it has always been the way to train for distance running and always will be. every non retarded program will have the bulk of the running made up of easy runs and a long run. the difference in training programs comes from the interval sessions which remains open for debate. obviously threshold is the flavour of the month at the minute.

>>76854737
Why would you not do your strength training? Stop looking for shortcuts. Don't think of it as something extra that you have to do. It is an integral part of the training plan not an addition to it.

>>76855803
what brand are those shorts? I like the look of them

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>>76850219
>guts

>>76855873
Prediction: DNF due to over fuelling

>>76855873
Does Philly have drop bags every 1/2 mile? You may need six gels MAX, very likely only 4.

>>76855993
Lmfao I had
>10g creatine at 4:30am
>1.5 bananas, 3 pieces of bread, admittedly lots of peanut butter, and a Coke at 5am.
>2 scoops C4 (~600mg caffeine?) at 6am
Going with 90g/hr for 3:15:00, so
>3x Maurten 160
>5x Liquid Gu
>2x Maurten 100/100caf, and 1 extra 100caf gel just in case
I’m 225lbs trying to maintain 7:25/mi average so I’ll likely go through 1000+ calories in gels by the end
>>76856001
I don’t think so, just water stations every 2 miles or so with weak Nuun electrolyte cups.

>>76856050
good luck lad

>>76856050
Good luck. Hope the trots don't strike you with how much you ate prior.

>>76855980
Those ankle-foot-lower leg routines are excruciatingly boring. You spend 40min 3x/week doing gay little exercises that don't feel like you have achieved anything or exerted any effort. I tried them for a month. The result, same as before. Maybe I underestimated how taxing running is and how far behind being sedentary has set me, but still I expected better.

>>76856184
I don't think you need to spend that much time on them. 10 minutes is plenty. And you can do them sat in front of the tv.

>>76855873
lol why do you need all that, youre not gna use any of it

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>>76856063
>>76856172
Thanks bros. I ran out of gas at the end, got 2 black toenails, legs were just gassed. Still at 6’2” and 225lbs, I ran 3:18:17, 9:04 faster than last year. I’m gonna take a couple months off from running, getting married in February, so I’ll work on losing 20-25lbs over the next year.

any rooners with asthma here? I just started running seriously this year (was lifting most of my life) and my progress is so slow. I take breyna everyday and i use my albuterol before my runs but still feels like my lungs hit a wall. Can barely run faster than a 11 minute pace per mile or i just start coughing and dying. Any medication thats made a difference for you guys?

>>76856699
sounds like your asthma pretty severe

knew someone who ran with asthma but it never stopped them running very fast intervals even though i think occasionally running triggered episodes where they were wheezing or had to stop or ended up slowing down during sessions

>>76856676
Thats a really solid race bro, especially at your size. Its impressive

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>>76855396
>>76855490
>>76855552
>2 hours 20 minutes @ 6:45/km
Not too bad. No injuries and shit.

>>76856676
good running for a big man

>>76856676
Excellent job, anon!

>>76857099
As long as it was fun, the speed will only go up from there

you guys use strava?

>>76857099
Just as >>76857456 said. Fun is more important. I'd rather have a very fun race than a PR. No injuries or issues during the race makes it fun. To me, that's the allure of the marathon.

>>76857609
Used to. I was only using it for Elevate. Now, I'm much more aware and just use Garmin Connect to view long term stats. I think I could always go back to Golden Cheetah, or whatever program is the most useful now, if needed.

>>76857633
Yes I have a normie friend that recruited me there. He gets tens of thumbs up on his roons from his extended friend group, coworkers etc. I get one (1) from him on every room. It's kind of funny desu

>did first treadmill roon today

It's completely different than being outside.

>>76854866

idk man I started by doing zone 2 shit for 3 months on a treadmill then joined a run club, 3 months of that and I'm doing 5ks faster than half the mid 30s guys who have been slogging at it for years. I usually only do 5-10k max depending on the day but when I went for a time PR I pretty easily kept up a comfortable z2 pace for 90m, 2hrs felt easily possible but I decided not to risk overdoing it.

>>76857931
just good genes innit

>>76854413

For people with a wide midfoot these were a god send.

I ran in five fingers a lot like 15 years ago. Later I ran in the saucony kinvara a lot, back when it had minimal drop.

Sadly it’s hard to find minimal drop shoe with a wide midfoot (not just wide at the toes). I ordered/returned 15 pairs of shoes a couple weeks ago looking for a minimal drop that’s wide in the midfoot. Doesn’t exist anymore.

Considering getting the five fingers back in rotation. Though last time had some nasty cuts/blisters in areas where the seams were.

fat fuck here, 178cm 94kg.
Started running about 6 weeks ago, bought a Coros watch.
It says my resting heart rate is average 43, but I really don't think I'm fit enough. Is 6 weeks enough to get that low or do I need to see a doctor?

>>76856184
Skill issue. You're doing them wrong.

>>76856699
no clue if this will really help your asthma issues but there's a chance it'll help you out some
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH1bPAzb9d4

>>76858118
>Is 6 weeks enough to get that low or do I need to see a doctor?
i would suggest a finger and a stopwatch

>>76858185
47 with the manual method while sitting on the couch.
I should probably see my GP

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>Long roon in the foothills of the Southwest
>Somehow the easiest roon I’ve ever done

>>76858118
kinda sus for a fat fuck desu

have you been heavier than this? Maybe you just have a yuuuge heart from that or maybe from being fit once upon a time.

Is there any point whatsoever in trooning zone 2 bs if you won't be increasing your volume? Like for example if I only have a set amount of time for trooning each week and my limiting factor isn't recovery.

>>76858805
Depends how much you're running and how hard the hard days are. If you're doing 4 or 5 runs per week I'd still do at least one of them easy. 3 runs then I probably wouldn't bother with an easy run unless you feel like it's needed.
Just don't do retarded shit like making every run a time trial.

>>76858805
yes go hard but your body may not be able to take it if you dont have that good aerobic and conditioning base already

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8k progression
I ran in my Ultraflys. Good shoe but I thought they would be more super shoey. Very stable and grippy. Comfortable right out of the box didn't need to break them in. Not at all like a carbon road shoe but I guess they're fast for a trail shoe.
Definitely wouldn't pay full price for them. But half price was a good deal. 9/10 would recommend.

>>76859544
PHWOOOAR

good post diss wun

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Ran my first marathon, bros

>>76859702
G FUCKING G SUB4 MATE

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>>76856676
Am I cooked chat ?

>>76859951
>>76856676
Excellent time, anon!

>gas at the end
It happens. That's the thing with the marathon: almost everything has to be dialed in. Even then, random events can come up e.g. my first marathon, someone tripped on a pothole in mile 1 they didn't see because of the huge amount of people running the race.

>2 black toes
Two badges of honor.

>married in February
Have a fun time with that!

>Am I cooked chat?
With your long weird foot: yes.

>>76859702
Congrats, anon!

>>76859702
was it a sprint to break 4?

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6 months in finally reached my first major PR goal, sub 30 5k. And that's a solid sub 30 too, zone 2/3 injury free. After that finished up another ~5k for a solid 10k, idk how close i am to sub 60 10k, I lost track of laps.

first 3 months progress was great, the last 3 months sucked my ass, juggling cardio progress, recovering from injuries (knee, then shin splints), strengthening, correcting form, adapting to pavement instead of gravel, trying to put on muscle and lose weight, etc.

190 5'10" so still a good 15lbs of fat to lose minimum. Plenty of muscle to put on too. Just so relieved I'm basically injury free now and can put in an hour run easy. with that PR I'm already in the best shape of my life and the next 6 months are gonna be smooth sailing. I like winter running but damn can't wait for spring and summer. And next fall actually.

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>>76848831
anons I'm (21M) looking to run my first 5K race since high school in May and want to hit a sub-20 as a super ambitious dream goal for myself. I started running again early October and I'm just now getting to an 11:00/mi easy pace for ~20-25mpw. I also strength train (maintenance now after lifting a lot in college, so not too intense) and do yoga. I've pretty much only been doing easy runs with a longer run on Sundays, but idk how long it should be before I add speedwork. Is my goal time feasible? Am I training properly?

>been rooning almost 2 weeks now
>just set PR for 1 mile (9:10)
>just set PR for 5k (31:04)
>it still fucking sucks

I guess the saying in cycling "It never gets easier you just go faster" also applies to running. I can't wait to be able to do 5k without my heart screaming.

>>76860388
6 months is so much time. You can make massive gains. I would not wait that long to race. It's only a 5k, I'd do one soon enough to see where you're at. Doesn't have to be a proper race just smash a 5k in training and see what you can do. Then you will have a better idea of what paces to run on your speedwork and tempo runs.

>>76860577
It absolutely gets easier. But you gotta get fit first. 2 weeks is nothing. Long way to go but it's worth it. Just keep the consistency. Don't be trying to run a PR every week.

>>76860577
The real gains come 3 months into it, tho. Building up an aerobic base takes time.

>>76860704
>The real gains come 3 months into it
nta but what the FUCK
why does it take so long

The best part about running is getting to look at women's butts.

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>>76860721
I feel you...
I'm not fat just so you know. Everyone always assumes I am when I show them this.

>>76860750
>bottom 10% for your age

I wonder what metric they use to calculate this? I assume it's only people who sign up for the app. The only people who sign up for fitness apps are well, fit people or those trying to get fit. I assure you you're probably in the top 30% or some shit.

>>76860756
nah 34 is really fucking bad lmao.
when i started my vo2 was 45 and i was hitting 180bpm at 13:00+/mi

>>76860756
Yes it's bottom 10% of Garmin users.
Read somewhere 34 is the lower average range for non runners. So still quite unfit

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>>76860770
Ever since I started my vo2 has only gone down. Very demoralizing actually. Don't know what I'm doing wrong.

>>76860388
ddamn

comfy pic

>>76860778
did cavemen worry about vo2? of course they didn't
don't worry about that nonsense anon

almost finished couch to 5k but my legs are barely recovered from these 28-30 min runs even after 2 days

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>>76860796
Slow down, take it easy, at the end of the week if you aren't read to jump to Emi's 10k do the last week of couch to 5k again.

>>76860835
wtf she winked at me

Today was one of those days.
>run to the park by the river
>3 sets of pull ups
>3 sets of curl ups
>3 sets of deadhangs
>3 sets hanging leg lifts
>watch deer grazing between sets
>run home the long way
>deer on the path slowly part as I run by
Yeah.

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>Anon fell for the VO2max stat on his watch

>>76861061
>women
>in my running club
That's enough to make me not want to join...

I ran 18 miles yesterday and feel like shit today. I also pulled when I got home. Is that normal? I have my first marathon in 6 weeks. My fueling was crap

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>track tonight

>>76861272
corr what you be daein?

foxes look cute diss time of year in their floofy winter coat

fink that what it is

either that or seein some fatass foxes about

did 3 big hills today

~600m at 8%
~600m at 9%

and these were back to back
i literally ran up and down the same hill twice in succession

then did 400m at 9% which actually was a 500m hill but extra bit brough average down to 8%

i also ran up the hill twice but once at start run once at end and the route at end was different and only like 4.5% on average albeit obviously longer

overall roon was 20miles

i modified my route in end coz legs were prematurely hurting which fink was coz of the hills (basically stopped and turned back direction i came which us why i went up that second hill twice)

i dont usually do big hills on loong roons

but love hills

feel good
feel likeim good at em

feel like they make you better rooner

usually shorter roons i also have a 1km hill at 7.5% incline average

>>76860770

Been really confused by vo2. Been running a 5k everyday since oct 2 (no prior running experience) and at the start it was about 35min down to 30 the last few weeks. My heart rate is usually average 155-165 for the run and my vo2 is 35. I’m 34, 210, 6’3”. Kinda chubby and just quit smoking cig’s in September but I’m surprised my vo2 is so poor and hasn’t improved at all

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They redid the asphalt on a kilometer stretch of my favourite route and now I no longer have to dodge massive craters. It's amazing.
Finally got in a 10km "long" run on sunday. Going to try 12k this sunday.

>>76861674
>got in a 10km "long" run on sunday. Going to try 12k this sunday.
literally me. same days same distance

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Are there any recommended cheapo (~$100 AUD or less) running shoes for newbies?
I'd like to pick some up with the african american friday sales, to go running with my dog.
I've got wide feet and don't strike with my heel when walking.

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>>76860756
No idea. Finally improving though.

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>>76860756
>>76862230
Actually looked around a bit, there's these charts. It does say "garmin users".
And then there's the pace chart that says I run faster than 19% of users. And then charts that say I run farther and for longer than 99% of users, weee...

>>76848954
Tendon injuries heal fastest when bloodflow gets to them (blood carries the good healing shit). Thing is, staying stationary gets them almost no blood. That's why PT exercises often involve stimulation of the area, stretching, or a lesser version of the main exercise (eg. unweighted heel squats) themselves.

So yeah you risk snapping your shit up but you got lucky

>>76862237
the one on the vo2max page itself is just based on general statistics. The insights thing is only for people that have insights enabled and also have a running (can be calculated from walking activity too though) vo2max at all, so it's skewed towards higher performing people, I just don't know by how much, because as you say these people run like 5km per week or some shit. Guess not everyone logs every single run they do.

>>76862303
tl;dr
data is a bit shoddy so just to be safe imma recommend only feeling pleased with yourself once you are better than 99% on all charts.

btw losing weight is the best method of improving vo2max lol

>>76862195
probably get a pair of Pegasus on sale somewhere.

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ran 30 mins for the first time ever, only 2.44 miles

>>76862562
congrats bud - 30 minutes straight was one of my favourite milestones. that's was me feeling I'd made it as a runner. I can barely remember most of my marathons over the last 20 odd years, but I remember watching my timex showing 30 minutes that first time.

>>76862866
Thanks, this milestone definitely feels different than lifting ones. I'm kinda kicking myself for not just going for 5k right there, I really felt like I could have done it.

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>finally found the running jacket that I loved but was discontinued online
>it isn't second hand/used
I'm not going to wear it running. This one is going to be everyday use, unlike my previous two which one I used for running, the other everyday wear.

>>76863047
what are you doing to your jackets that they need replacing so often? These things are durable as fuck and still look the same 10 years later.

>>76863643
The tranny chemicals wear off and then suddenly the waterproofing isn't there anymore.

>>76863643
The first outside layer is not very strong and tears easily. Both of mine had multiple holes in them from multiple instances like the time I was trail running and tripped. It's only water resistant. The fabric on the inside wear out pretty easily.

my knees hurt...
i just wanna run every day but my knees keep hurting...

>>76864928
I have a couple of jackets that are like brand new years later but I guess I don't wear them that often. My waterproof cycling jacket that gets the most use is a bit beat up but still wearable.

>>76864928
>poorfag can't afford Amiri

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Did all this with a 20 pound weight vest. Was fun. Jogged most of it but the calisthenics make it look slower.

What do you guys wear to run outside in the cold? Also when it's cold and wet?

>>76865561
base layer + long sleeve top is usually enough.
hat and gloves if it's a bit colder
wind proof jacket if it's freezing
I have a pair of tights but rarely wear them. Legs always feel ok once you get moving.
goretex shoes are waterproof and warm.

have a waterproof jacket but hate wearing it.

Did 16km/10 miles today. Longest so far, a bit less than 2 hours.
Discovered the path I wanted to take and that looked good on google map was closed by random ass construction work 6km in, it's a tiny road between two villages so there was no other reasonable path.
And as I went back to just run on the same segment between my town and the first village several times, I found out this village I keep running through is going to get a shitload of roadwork too. rip good spot. All the other paths fucking suck even when it's dry (because they're fucking cobblestone paths, or just weirdly very used tiny roads with no space on the sides) let alone in winter now it's wet and muddy all the time or are just big roads, so fucking annoying.

>>76865592
Thanks, any specific item recommendations? I have gift cards at REI and figure might as well spend them now. Last year I was injured during the winter and only did occasional treadmill runs to see if it still hurt. This year I'm feeling better, but what I have isn't really sufficient...

>>76865727
I just buy whatever is on sale so have a big mix of every brand. They're all basically the same I think. Just avoid the cheap shit. Like if Lidl or Aldi are doing running gear it's usually absolute junk.

>>76865727
long sleeve shirt that is tight + thicker tshirt over it is absolutely kino.
was rooning this setup at -1°C and had no issues

make it shirt + longsleeve + shirt for even colder or more comfy temps

>>76866029
>shirt + longsleeve + shirt
at that stage just buy warmer clothes. no way that is comfortable compared to a nice jacket

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>>76861348
I'm the same level as a guy 70 pounds heavier who smoked. It's fucking over...

I've been running for about 2 weeks and been using the Ghost 17s. I don't really care for them, I really liked the Ghost 14s when I ran sporadically a few years back but the 17s just aren't seeming to do it. Maybe I just need to keep running. I picked up a pair of Novablast 5 to try out since it'll be nice to have 2 pairs of shoes anyway. Any of you anons use the NB5 or maybe both?

I'm also getting all my cold weather gear soon and wanted to test it out but it's supposed to snow. I've never ran in the snow any tips? It shouldn't be anything crazy.

>>76866308
watch for ice, and look into getting spikes.

>page 10
h-hello?

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>>76866078
could be worse gnomesayin??

>>76867814
No, this is page 2.

>>76864916
You can reproof clothing with certain products you add to the wash cycle. See Nikwax.

my fitness is gone after stopping 2 months, so fucking demoralizing

>>76868220
you'll get it back and be faster in another month or two, don't quit fully, being flabby and winded and low neurotransmitter levels sucks

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>middle distance training
how do you train for this? i wanna get a good 2km time because conscription selection is coming up, but i dont really know how to train. I can do 1.6 km in 7:20 minutes, but i'm completely gassed at the end. I only really did long distance running and at that point it's just a matter of pushing yourself just a bit more, but i feel like i need a different approach for this. Should i try to keep this pace and glue a bit more distance on it, or go for a 2km and try to speed up more and more every time?

Note that selection criteria for conscription are shockingly lenient (cut off is 2000 meter in 12 minutes or so) so it's not really that important but i dont just want to scrape by.

>>76868405
Run for time. Go easy don't worry about the pace. Build up to 30 minute runs a few times per week.
Then start working on your target pace for the 2k. I would go for sub 8 minutes, so 4:00 per km. You are not a million miles away from that and the longer runs will help you get there. Do intervals at 4min pace or a bit faster.
for example 10x400m or 6x600m with about 90 seconds recovery. nothing fancy but it will get you fit enough

>>76868433
thanks senpai
Got any good program for interval training?

>>76868516
literally just do a full retard sprint for like 500 meters or so at the end of your run when you feel like it. Do more of these sprints with some cooldowns in between if you can't get the nauseous maxhr feeling (which must chase) anymore.

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Set PBs on the 10k, 10 mile, and half marathon today. It was my first half outside of my marathon training.

Feels good Turkey Trotbros

>>76868516
There's a million different sessions you could do. I'd aim for 4k total distance. Anything that adds up to that. 10x400, 4x1000 or mix the distances up something like 1200, 1000, 800, 600, 400 would be a nice workout. Try a few different ones and get a feel for the pace you can handle and what recovery time you need.

Shitfuckcunt I hate this gay world I should've started running before I became a perpetual 5min/km boomer unccel. It's literally impossible to improve at running if you start after the age of 25.

>>76868724
You can learn all you want about running and pass that knowledge onto your son

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>>76868724
t. quitter and pussy

>>76868724
It's harder if you didn't play any sports in school but any cunt can improve if they train right.

>>76868778
>t. can't read
This only highlights the problem. Some 70yo mummy can easily mog me because he started running when he was 5. Meanwhile I'm destined to forever be slow because I started running in my late 20s.

>>76868778
>finishing over 4 hours
bruh just go home have some dignity

>>76868724
Just run lmao, I aim to be that old creepy guy who's always running with one ball hanging out of their shorts.

>>76868843
nta, but if its your first Marathon and you finished regardless if you ran the whole time or not I'd say that is an accomplishment.

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*solves running in your path*

>>76869391
THE ULTIMATE RUNNING PLAN. YOU GO FASTER GUARANTEED OR I LET YOU FUCK ME IN THE ASS JUST $199.99 PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL NOW NAD I'LL SLASH THAT PRICE IN HALF YOU ONLY PAY 2 EZ PAYMENT OF 99.99 YOU"RE BASICALLY STEALING FROM ME YOU STUPID CUNT WAHT ARE YOU WAITING FOR


>So what's the plan?

Just run more lmao, fucking faggot

Hello guys. You may have missed my exciting reports in the recent months. Previously I had gone to run something like 5 times but I haven't posted since then. One reason for that is even I realise my posts are not that interesting, I did go for a few runs, but I've been mostly doing callisthenics instead as my exercise in the great outdoors. Today I gave running another go.
I already regretted doing it when I had trouble getting off the tram, cornered by homeless and had to tap the guy in front of me on the shoulder because he couldn't hear me. Then usual walk to park, run was nothing special, 3 laps in 10 minutes, 5-10 minute rest, 2 more laps in 7 minutes. Bit of sun but cold. Drinking fountains in the park didn't work, maybe because it's freezing. Walk back then a few pullups.
Might be my last time for a while, winter is coming, but also I'm trying to lose weight and I'm thinking of not doing any exercise because I think it fucks up my metabolism, even if just because I eat before it to have energy and after to replenish.
I've been feeling more shit than usual recently and I think it's after eating carbs. So I measured my blood sugar after I got home, didn't eat anything, it was 7.5 mmol/l. Weird because it's never been that high even when I'm feeling shit, and I wasn't even feeling that shit this time. Is it because I wasn't drinking and my blood got thicker, or is it normal for it to go up from exercise? Supposedly you can't even feel your blood sugar level. So why am I feeling shit then?

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>>76869498

>>76869498
running makes you feel less shit and make you lose weight
run more

What are my odds of getting into Chicago marathon? Anyone done it?

>>76849102
/Tennis/

>>76866304
I have Ghosts for walking and Novablasts for running and they're bretty perfect.

Anybody know where a bro can get Novablasts for $100 or less? $250 for 2 at Asics is the cheapest I see anywhere.

>>76869307
> regardless if you ran the whole time or not
It's ok to not get it on your first try. It's not ok to use dishonest language like saying that you "did" a Marathon when you didn't run it. I "do" a Marathon in my car twice a day.

>>76868686
phwoar propa good diss one

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>>76868724
not with that attitude

I started this year at 29. Definitely seeing improvement and these are just some random runs I picked. HR is lower, pace is faster, distance is higher. I am probably not training efficiently and I only do like 20k per week.

>>76868778
as this pic shows, you have like 2 decades in which you're not decaying yet. maybe you don't get better as fast as a 15 year old but you can definitely get better. Anyone would probably get significantly faster from weight loss alone.

I got like 2kg heavier btw so my gains are muscle or technique.

>Once you can comfortably roon 6 miles/10km, start thinking about a goal in terms of race distance and time, and look for a training plan for that goal (see below for suggested plans).
I literally just want to do long easy runs with no plan forever though

>>76868724
I broke 18 minutes starting in my mid 30s you faggot

>looking for advice on running gear (shoes etc)
>every says "DuDe JuS gO 2 Ur LoCaL StOre"
>go to local store
>a homeless person has more running gear than them
>ask them about shoes and gait analysis and all that other shit people say
>"uhhh yeah uhhhhh we don't do that here but uhhhh there's some shoes over there you can look at"
>walk out

>>76869391
Cannot wait to see the many completely burnt out using this method.

>>76870196
Gait analysis is a meme. They have you run on a treadmill. One of the problems with a treadmill is that it can change your natural running style. Personal example: my main style is midfoot strike, while I'm a forefoot striker on the treadmill. During that, my heel doesn't touch the ground at all. It's just an unconscious thing fir me to do, as I can tell myself to not do it, but I zone out while doing it.

If they're doing the gait analysis outside, fine since it's the natural environment that you will be running in.

Afa shoes: just wear whatever is comfortable.

>>76848831
>Should've gone for a morning /roon/
>didn't
Last night's party is converting to fat cells RIGHT NOW and I can't do anything about it

>>76869992
Lolwut

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>>76869952
yes indeed sir

I hate your sport, but I have worked very hard to learn how to run as part of being a functional human. No shade, just not my thing.

I was late for my meeting and started jogging there. It was only 1.7 km/1.0 miles. First time in my life that I was limited my pace because of not wanting to sweat rather than being out of breath. It felt really fucking good especially since it was -5C/23F.

>want to run
>37C degrees outside
fuck off

my rooning friend is moving away soon
i'll miss her

>want to run
>8C and sunny
yes

>>76870877
is she cute?

>>76871232
incredibly cute and fit tomboy
we cuddle sometimes but it hasnt evolved past that unfortunately

>>76869498
>>76869507
Been feeling extreme shit lately too tbf. I guess it's the season, idk. Makes it hard to run.

>>76871248
no...

>>76868778
Actually shocking that it remains so consistent until the late 40s

>>76871257
My motivation to run is always so low even though I know I will enjoy the run and feel better after. Just getting out the door is the hard part.

>>76871363
you don't have enough things you want to escape yet. give it some time

Ordered some shit off nike.com on wednesday and they finally made a fucking shipping label. I seriously believe they are just going to be sending some women's size vaporflys and then i have to return them and pay full price.

155 eur for vaporfly 4s is pretty good tho right.

Anyone have experience quitting smoking while having a consistent routine but struggle to improve because lungs?
Wondering how much i handicap myself and if my lungs wont struggle as much.

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>>76871381
black friday innit. they're dealing with thousands of orders per day. I'm still waiting 2 weeks later for my gymshark delivery.

anyway back on the thresholds. 4 x 6 minutes. a little bit fast as usual

>>76870784
i never get days that hot so when they do come around i love running in them because its just such a novelty running in 37

but obvi it would be a nightmare if it was 37 every single day

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I just spent 100$ on compression socks that were on sale

>>76871799
used to get numb feet sometimes when running hard but just went away on its own as i improved

>>76871363
chuck your trainers across the street and go get them

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>>76871799
I am currently wearing my perfectly good quality cheap ass More Mile ones that I paid €15 for about 5 years ago. Still going strong

>new gear is supposed to be here today
>hasn't showed up yet
>wanted to go out and roon with new gear
>daylight hours are quickly ticking down

I may just wait to the gear then go hit the treadmill so I at least do something. Maybe there will be a cute girl in there I can make uncomfortable.

guess who just bought new running shoes

>>76872284
What did you get?

>>76872355
novablast 5
a girl recommended them lol, i'm a newb

>just found out about dressmyrun

This is an absolute game changer. I always struggle to know what to wear, no longer.

Now that the honeymoon period with EU5 has worn off what GSG are you looking forward to next?

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