Neckbros, GTFIH>The neck is the singular most aesthetic and important muscle for facial attractiveness as well as potentially being the most important muscle for preserving your life in case of collisions, falls and fightsHow is everybody training neck here? Any favourite exercises? What sets/reps have you found to work best? What frequencies are you doing?Personally I train neck curls every two days, 3 sets of 12-16 with a 25lb plate on my forehead. Only have a 16" neck at the moment but training to grow it more. Ideal would be around 18"Post neckpills, neck exercises and tips below
I tried the neck harness. Went from 20 reps with 25 lbs to 20 with 50 and saw no increase. Fortunately just from lifting my neck grows.
>>76861993I train neck every day on the Promaxima 8 Way Neck Machine.3 sets of 20 reps for:Flexion currently 97.5lbsExtension 60lbsLateral Flexion 90lbsCurrent neck 17 inches no pump no flex, 18 flexed
>>76862013>Flexion currently 97.5lbs>Extension 60lbsWhoops weights backwards for these
>>76862000Were you doing extensions and flexions or just one of the two? Never tried the neck harness since curls and extensions off the bench works for me to be honest
>>76862013Sick machineHow does it compare to doing it lying flat on a benchI would imagine you have less stability no?
>>76862060Machine is much better, the force on the neck is the same through the whole movement. Doesn't change as a factor of the angle of your neck and gravity. Feels very stable there is a chest pad and hand holds to hold on to. I've tried the plate on my head on a bench then moved to a neck harness with a weight pin then to neck harness with a cable machine. Then got this used for the home gym. Harness with a cable machine is comparable though but I felt I could injured myself more easily with that set up since to get into the starting position its already pulling against the direction of the movement. So your neck is in constant tension during the whole set. Where as on a dedicated neck machine the range of motion is defined and static. You do a rep and there is a stopping point where your neck isn't under tension.
is it just me or is isolating your neck retarded. How are you not hitting it when you hit shoulders?
>>76862101you must have a massive home gym if you can dedicate space for a machine as niche as thathow have the gains been on the machine vs other ways to train it? 17" cold is already a large neckI home gym too but have very little space so I do the plates on the forehead, might get a neck harness in the future if I can get one for a good price>>76862108how do you hit it while training delts? do you swing your head back and forth while doing OHP? kek
>>76861993I just do yes no maybes in addition to practicing martial arts. Neck curls are really only necessary if you don't engage in sports requiring the neck.Clinching in MT and BJJ standup will be more than enough to give you a thick neck.
>>76862427>do you swing your head back and forth while doing OHPFelt it a little when combining ohp, bent rows, chinups.Lately i do dumbell seated ohp and barbell and dunbell shrugs and dwlt work and moved back to a seperate day and i hit my neck every shoulder workout. Possibly going lighter on dumbell shrugs to gst that full rom shrugging all the way to the top is probably whats doing it, in combination with everything else of course.I find that programming for me involves finding lifts that work together to hit what i want.
>>76862443a thick and sturdy neck is an absolute must in any martial art or sport, wrestling, striking, doesn't matter, you need a thick trunk of a neck to perform and avoid injury as much as possible
>>76862492yes I agree. But your neck will develop from training the martial art and a simple minimal risk exercise like yes no maybes.
>>76862427biggest thing for me with the dedicated machine is that i am more consistent in actually doing it every day, i think neck harness + a cable machine is just as good for gains honestly just have to be a bit more careful.
>>76862522true, I noticed in the home gym that the biggest thing is readiness. If an exercise is hella work to get set up, no matter how good it is, eventually I'll stop doing it. Thankfully plates on the forehead doesn't get any easier or quicker to set up
Hmm might be a bit shy of 18 inches flexed but the tape was eating into my neck fat. :^)
>>76862448you're a dyel using "but I use my arms during squats to stabilize the weight so that's enough" logic. you feel blood pumping through your neck, but your neck isn't doing shit during those exercises, not even isometrically
>>76861993this shit is basically wrestling and fighting training
>>76863309I haver never got doms in my arms from squatting
>>76863319soreness isn't necessarily an indicator of growth though, just fatigueI think the "your neck gets volume when you train delts/traps" thing is the same as the powerlifters who say you don't need to isolate arms to grow them since they get volume from presses and pullsLike yeah that's technically true but how much growth are they gonna get from that? Not much if at all
>>76864534It's even worse logic. Your neck doesn't get volume when you train delts or traps. Your sternocleidomastoid isn't being tensioned. It's retarded. Growing your traps can create the illusion of having a thicker neck because it pushes your traps push the tissue in your neck up, but the musculature of your neck isn't actually being grown
>>76862443 type "if training neck extension, should you also train neck flexion" into an LLM. the answer is yes. if you're only neck training is lots of resisting collar ties and then only light work for every other direction you are causing severe imbalances.>>76862108 because you pretty much aren't, except for your upper traps. there are many things that can cause pain beyond good training.
>>76861993I just do muh Mice Thai-Thins, ayy team inceff nech n' doesn't even scared of CPAPs.
>>76861993Just do anything, neck muscles are atrophied for most people and will grow very fast.I wonder why they're atrophied though, I doubt our ancestors did anything that would make the neck much bigger
>>76861993Its not, normal neck looks the best. Only trans men have necks like left, and right neck only f1 driver and wrestlers and it looks goofy.
>>76864949>it looks goofyyeah if the rest of you is small in proportion
>>76863309And yet it grows as a result of them
>>76865172post neck then. nobody believes you. we all know you're saying that as a cope because you're too lazy to train neck and to figure out where to put it in your routine, so you say "it grows from working delts (???) and traps"using that logic I could tell you to stop isolating arms and there is nothing you could say against that without contradicting yourself.besides this is the neck training general. if you don't train it, just don't fucking post here. how complicated is that? jfc
If you don’t train neck this can happen to youhttps://imgur.com/gallery/bogdananonicle-probably-complete-this-time-RoS7nY6
>>76865385>>76865385The person saying post body wasnt me. Ill post my "fat" bod tho lol. Just finished a 4 month long dirty bulk. I didnt do neck or shoulder work until recently unless you count compounds that sorta hit on back day. I find lifting heavy hits hits my neck enough for me personally but im sure youll find plenty of things to criticize me for
>>76865410Im so retared u cant see my neck lol. I will take an actual neck pic when i get home
>>76865410nigga you are hunched over, have big traps, have a beard and are moderately adipose, in fact you look like you have no neck at all.
>>76865754I only value your criticism if ypu ppst body with it
>>76865754Btw this is me at the end of my last cut. Competely relaxed posture and normal.
>>76862013>8 way>only does it 4 way
>has tattoos>ashamed of themlol every time
>>76865856You have to adjust the seat for the other 4 ways. It's too steep of an effort curve.
>>76865410>>76865852that's awesome captain egghead happy for you or whatever but what the fuck do these selfies have to do with neck training or proving you have a big neck ergo that your methods and beliefs word in relation to neckuscular hypertrophy
>>76866128>>76865414
>>76866128Trying to take a neck shot in public with beard and clothes on is difficult. Btw i prefer to be called mr potatoe head. And I never said i was right and anyone was wrong. I came into the thread and asked a question and answered a few and anons got mad for some reason.
>>76865852>posts about great neck gains itt>posts selfies that don't include neck>posts about exercise that don't hit neck at all. confuses muscular tension with clogged arteries in head>posts "at the end of last cut" picture while still being around 15% bodyfatsection 8 housing vibes.
>>76866217You seem angry and hostile and ive been pretty polite
fix ur posture first
>>76861993neck bros can you fuck up your neck with free weights training? i started training neck, left to right, up-down, circle right, circle left once a day and after 2 weeks i started feeling this lump in my neck and when I lay down I feel like blood is not coming to my brain. I wake up in the morning with my eyes red and like I had been in a coma.Went to the ER and did bloods and everything was fine, I have a neck MRI in a few days. can it really be neck workouts? this is the only thing i fucking changed in my life and now i feel like i'm about to die. i'm retarded the whole day, my hands are cold af. wtf is going on?
>>76866236also had this really sharp pain in the top left of my chest, not on the heart. (got it checked anyways and structure was normal and 0 stress related proteins). It went away after a few days. Few days ago out of nowhere my body started shaking like I had a fucking seizure (never had one ever). This all out of nowhere, the only thing i'm grasping for is the neck training that i started 2 weeks before being sick. It's literally the only thing that I changed. Can it really be?
>>76866236sorry i mean weight-less training, i was just doing normal neck training without weights
>>76866236its either pinched nerves (vagus etc) or obstructed veinsin the latter case blood is literally pooling in your brain, making it swim in a soup of waste products after a whilealso the spinal cord going through this narrow tunnel of neck vertebrae is nothing to be fucked with - I reckon that some of these weighted neck excercises are actually dangerousI did mild isometrics for a while and had to stop because I developed some diffuse feeling of pressure inside my skullonly doing unweighted neck curls on all sides and simply tensing my neck now
>>76866261great, so i'm fucked, does surgery fix this?
>>76866294I'd try physical/posture therapy first and hope that it recovers on its ownIm currently looking into injection therapies (PRP or proliferation therapy) to strengthen cartilage tissue in the neck, but Im reading some conflicting statements about it (from miraculous healings of whiplash to it being unnecessary/overpriced)
>>76866322it's been months already and it hasn't recovered. i'm really hoping that it's something easy to fix man. i feel like my life is over and i'm only 22
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>>76866332part of your anxiety about this issue might be due to vagus nerve disruptionyou are pretty much constantly in alertness state with elevated cortisol and not able to get into a parasympathetic statei.e. part of it is "just in your head", but as a result of underlying physical reasons (nerve getting pinched)so its not the end of the world, but u might feel like as if it ishope that makes sense
>>76865410>>76865852Why are you posting anything?
>>76866382well it's not only the feeling of "it's over" as I went through it months ago. it's more about how retarded and slow I feel, how I am literally 20% as reactive as I used to be. I used to do cardio-bodyweight 45m non-stop in the morning and 1h strength training in the afternoon. 5d/week. last week after i did 20 pushups I felt like I had ran a marathon and 2 hours later my body started shaking out of nowhere and I was out for 5 days. Life couldn't be worse. if i can't figure out this problem i have, i might just call it
>>76866448You already shown you having nothing but ill will. If i just switched workouts what will it prove? You will call me a roider or find someyhing to pick apart. Only reason i can think youre this angry is because i told you to post body in a different thread and youre still seething.
>>76866224Not angry, you're just retarded trying to speak about something you clearly have no idea about. I don't go in /sci/ and talk about string theory or physics or whatever.
>>76866449the only persistant feeling that i have other than general slowness, retardness and waking up in the morning with my eyes red is the feeling of something wrong with my neck.all the doctors i went to called this "anxiety" and gave me anti depression and anxiety meds, i did check ups to my fucking stomach, to my heart. "Everything is fine, it's just your anxiety". meanwhile before this problem I had done months of meditation and nofap, I was literally in god state. Peak physique, peak net worth, peak life and now I feel like a retard with stage 4 cancer, I gambled all my money away and I don't even get out of my house from how shit I feel. i hate all the fucking doctors and the jewish science of psychology and psychotherapy
>>76866466>trying to speak about something you clearly have no idea about. I only answered questions asked of me and never said i was right or anyone was wrong. Just that i have been hitting my neck lately with shoulders as a lil "anecdote"
>>76866294Do an intense, savage, very long PSMF cutDon't forget to keep training other musclesYou will surely reduce any muscle you don't train at the gym, and improve your overall health as a bonus
could diligent neck training have prevented this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLV7SMC3WYQ
>>76866475yeah sounds like you have a brain prion or something dude that's not normal to get that from neck trainingthanks for devolving the thread into a discussion about your retarded delusionsget help schizo
>>76866475Sounds like you might have a vitamin/mineral deficiency. Have you been supplementing Zinc heavily without copper?
>>76866887i already lost 13kg, you want me to starve? also i don't have the energy to train.>>76867504kys nigger>>76867620i have been taking zinc for a while (year and a half or so) but only 25mg intermittently. i guess im gonna take some vitamin/minerals bloods
I hate foreigners so much it's unreal
>>76868044nigger you sound brown, you're likely dying from some third world prion or disease unknown to medicine, can you take your dogshit blogpost elsewhere than the neck training general dumb faggot
>>76868052You hate your great grandparents?
>>76868495We've been here since the 1600s. We're true native, since 1775.
>>76868582>We've been here since the 1600s. We're true native, since 1775.The people who were living there before you, you dont consider the native americans to be the actual natives?
>>76861993>singular most aesthetic and important muscle for facial attractiveness>so easy to injure it's virtually guaranteed if you even think about exercising itProof god is evil btw
>>76868044Stop drinking coffee/carbonated drinks.. cant hurt to see what happens.. it sounds like youre burnt out mentally and its weighing your body down as well get some rest
>>76869045Highest injury risk is during the negative just make sure the eccentric is slow and controlled. I slam with momentum for the concentric with no issues.
>>76869113What is the negative and the eccentric?
>>76869143Eccentric and the negative is the same thing. It is when the muscle is being lengthened under contraction. Like when you lower the weight from a bicep curl and your bicep lengths while under strain of the weight.Concentric is when the muscle is shortening under contraction. Using the same example it's when you bend your elbow by contracting and shortening your bicep to bring the weight up in a curl.
>>76869159Ah, I see. Thanks for the retard-friendly explanation m8.
I have a 17" neck with no training, get mogged.
>>76869421Post a picture brother we need to keep the thread alive, only 1 neck posted.
>>76869421being obese doesn't count bub
>>76864949f1 drivers look mogger though
>>76861993>He doesn't just naturally have the neck on the right when your BMI is 25Sorry but it's over you, you probably have a garbage frame and incel skull too. Training your neck with weighted blowjobs isn't going to make you attractive.
>>76865852nigga its the same thing as with your other photo. your build and beard cover your actual neck. traps is NOT the same as neck
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