theres a jacked guy at my gym who says he doesnt eat more than 50-60 grams of protein a day, and that protein requirements are 100% bullshit, and that muscle is all about having a healthy hormonal profile and proper traininghave i seriously been wasting years spamming down protein everyday? fuck, he absolutely mogged me and i eat like 3-4X the amount of protein he does
Most people are dumbos. He probably means he eats 50-60g of protein that he counts as in 1 protein shakes and some chicken he cooked for dinner.. not realsiing the mcdouble he ate, the beans he ate, the cheese he ate, the yoghurt he ate and loads of other stuff adds up to like 120g in a day without trying if you eat a decent diet
>>76867183>beans
>>76867167200g is definitely a meme150g is possibly a meme100-125g is probably enough
this is the correct amount to eathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLV7SMC3WYQ
>>76867167he's right if he roids or uses other biochem methods to mess with body's excrretion of nitrogen compounds, so he might be having that as a baseline understanding he left unstated
Building muscle and maintaining muscle have very different requirements
The amount of protein needed to build muscle is made pushed and made by roidtrannies for roidtrannies who have a 500% increase in metabolism and muscle growth thanks to roids.As a natty, 80-120g (depending on height) is the ceiling.Once you dive in deeper, you'll also understand that supplements are bullshit (since you get everything from a proper diet) and that training 2-3 times a week is more than enough, but I'm getting off track here.
>>76867167He's probably lying, or on steroids and doesn't know shit. Carbs are definitely gonna help most people more, but keeping protein high then refilling it so youre always building muscle and always recovering is gonna get you pretty far for example 60g for breakfast, 2 30g small protein milkshakes, some ramen and 2 eggs(cholesterol) pwo twice, and another 2-3 meals of chicken pork steak veg and carbs and soda/oj etc to keep carbs high intra workout. You can't go wrong with 150-250 depending on muscle mass but that usually just means you aren't eating as many carbs as protein is satiating, also carbs like pasta or potatoes are often with butter/evoo and fats are a huge gains booster. You'll learn your metabolism good luck take progress pics just gymrat and eat a ton then you won't be in starvation mode. That shit will absolutely buttfuck your gains get fat then dial it back less than be lean and add like 200 cals to one meal and it rehydrates you and makes you look fat, you were always that fat just eating more carbs, having more salt+nutrients, and water+water retention are gonna bloat you up that's what you want for gains just need to keep nutrients high and thats basically what I'm on for diet and if i flexed I'm just about roided tier.
>>76867451I mean, there are literally 100 studies out there showing that you're wrong and that while what you say "works", more simply works better.I don't know what kind of "deep dive" you're talking about that led you to discard all science on the topic
>>76867532What the studies fail to recognize is that lifting legs takes up more protein. Sure maybe it's maxed out and cant synthesize more if you don't do legs but there is certainly an effect to be noted here and needless to say it's fucking up your gains.
it's hard to eat less than 100g or so unless you're tiny little girl with no appetite or eat garbage
>>76867536Are you a different anon? Because that only supports my point further
ive gone weeks where i didnt eat any meat and was lucky to get maybe 50g of protein from milk/eggs and i never lost any muscle and still gained size and strength it really is just about having high test levelsenjoy or protein fart cancer powders i guess?
>>76867451post body
>>76867451Hey man you accidentally posted a cartoon picture instead of posting your body to back up your claims
>>76867167He's right and eats a lot of carbs too. All the dyels itt deny reality t. Strong despite less protein
>>76868300He never does. Curious.
