>>76878042lifting heavy things off the floor
>>76878042it's fun and it makes you strongergives you big glutes and a thick hamstrings tooand a thick lower back
>>76878042>LOOK MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN
>>76878042We just had this thread two days ago. Same picture, same bait prompt. Kill yourself bot
>>76878058>>76878057What's the point of deadlifting?
>>76878061Whays the deal with airline food
It’s the exercise which people with the least training and experience can lift the heaviest weight. Because of that it is appealing to those same people. If you are relatively big going into a gym to train for the first time you are going to be able to deadlift 300lbs easily. This is going to fuel your ego. You’re then going to keep doing it and because you have the initial gains made from training combined with the fact that your grip will somewhat improve, you’re on 450lbs before you know it The next stop is snap city. This process is repeated over and over. In of itself it isn’t a bad exercise and if done correctly by an experienced, serious lifter it can be impressive. But most of the time it just attracts novices because it’s the easiest thing to hit BIG NUMBER on straight away
>>76878042To make you seethe and continue posting these threads
>>76878042It strokes my ego. My bench is like two bumps in working weight away from intermediate-tier but my deadlift is only two reps away at current weight. Yes I'm a DYEL.
>>76878042>What's the point of deadlifting?show off at the gym while destroying your back
>>76878042just don't do clown weights and warm up properly. except for shrugs, which are otherwise useless, it's also the best for traps which the gif doesn't show
>>76878042being fookin' deadly
There are genetic variations that make one benefit or not from deadlifting. Problems is you have no way of knowing. Given how there are endless ways to train I wouldn't risk doing so in the one way that carries a high risk for spinal disorders
>>76878058Fucking ass fag just answer the question you pussy
>>76878042necromancy or some shit
>>76878042It's the only thing I'm good at, and not by much
>>76878042Picking something up off the floor is important. I also fuck harder
>>76878042Lift heavy weights. Maximal full-body tension.
>>76878163>train for the first time you are going to be able to deadlift 300lbs easily.doomer bait. almost no one starts at 300 lbs
>>76878042Trains a lot of things and 1 set is like 2 cos of how intense it is
>>76878042Higher testosterone for more overall gains
>>76878042To feel alive. Thus the name.
>>76878042to pretend you're doing a real lift
>>76878042To move dead bodies
>>76879788Imagine trying to park your car in your shitty apartment parking lot but the only spot left is blocked by some goofball in toe shoes doing rollypollies
Why deadlift when you can RDL instead?
>>76880041only kind of rdl worth doing
>>76878042nerdy chicks dig it
>>76878751>the one way that carries a high risk for spinal disordersSource: every retard & dyel says so
>>76880147looks like stiff zercher deadlift, not rdl
>>76880155youtube recommended her to me. Very annoying voice. Not particularly interesting videos either, she just does basic repairs.
>>76879760Lots of fats do. For fats it’s basically the same effort it takes for them to get out of a chair. I was obese when I first started training and I could DL 180kg easily because I was so fat. It’s why so many people do it, they’re overweight and it is a flattering exerciseIf two men were of identical height and muscle mass and everything else, but the only difference is that one had an extra 150lbs of fat he would have a much higher raw deadlift number
>>76880167There is no exercise that has destroyed more spines than deadlift and there's no exercise done by more dyel meme victims than deadlifr
snap city and many such cases
>>76882071>belthe was doomed to fail
>>76882071>using a belt for less than 265 lbs
it is the only functional lower back exercise that existsthat being said, do it in a bodybuilding rep scheme, like 2 sets of 12 or something, and don't listen to strength jerking egolifting shitters hereyou do not need to use inordinate amounts of weight to get the benefits of the deadlift for a balanced physique
deadlifts good for u
>>76878042training in case you need to lift a small car off someone
>>76882116Belts are useful but I feel like it gives a false sense of security and they never really work on how to brace properly
>>76882564>it is the only functional lower back exercise that existsseated good morning with a medicine ball steps behind you
>>76878042https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWUcHKAj_tcShrimple as.
>>76882594shit tier imo, and I can't even visualize how that would workthe deadlift is a good exercise the only problem is the egolifting shrimp dick culture has convinced everyone that you are a weak loser novice if you aren't easily dling 400+ 3 months into the gymI have terrible proportions for deadlifting heavy weight, but it is still a good exercise regardless, great muscle activation and isn't isolation bs
>>76882607>I've never done it>I can't even imagine it>It's shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1OF20GnnGY
>>76882620I don't see the purpose of barbell good mornings honestly, but that looks pretty goodstill an iso lift basically
>>76882620btw I read your post as if the medicine ball was literally behind you, that's why I was confused
>>76882633lmao probably because I wrote>steps behind you
>>76882564>only functional lower back exerciselol
What's the point of anything?
to dieyoked
>>76882564wtf does functional mean you fag there's a billion ways to train lower back safer more effective than dipshit deadlifts gayest exercise of all time
beats hip thrusts with a pussy pad?
>>76882924Deadlifts are perfectly safe from a bodybuilding perspective, I don't believe in strength training>>76882752Buddy has small legs lol, point proven basically
>>76883983at the weight at which you have to go to reduce the risk of fucking your spine up you're not going to be building any muscle nor strength. it's an endurance exercise at that point. I've seen countless people snap their shit up with 2 plates with perfect form. propensity to deadlift with low injury rates is entirely genetic and based on spinal disc shape and size both of which are inherited by their parents and demonstrated by Stuart McGill. anyone flat out claiming deadlift as a generally safe or healthy exercise is a lying retard
>>76885031Literally everything you said is fake and gay. You don't deadlift. Fuck off.
>>76885038I deadlifted for years and I know more than you ever will in infinite lifetimes fagboy
>>76882958I do both
>>76878042For some retarded reason, I've never had an injury with deadlifts. Almost every exercise I've ever done there was some type of pain or an incident where I had to rest. Even bodyweight pushups have me shoulder pain. I've never once had this with deadlifts no matter how heavy. My spine or lower back never hurt. I only ever got decent muscle soreness. My body is completely schizophrenic.
>>76885049Sure, buddy.
>Bret Contreras (the glute guy, has done countless, research on muscle growth and has trained countless high profile individuals): [...]you know that you can build up the body to be very strong. The muscles and as long as you hold good position and your training parameters are proper, your frequency, volumes, postures, load, all these things, you can build your body up to withstand that. The body is a very impressive unit if you train properly>Stuart McGill (spinal expert, countless research papers on the spine, has successfully rehabbed the spine of one of the greatest powerlifters of all time along with countless others): Some people can’t.>Some people can’t.>Some people can’t.>Bret: [...]You mentioned genetics as it pertains to the spine. Talk for a second about ovoid and the limacon disc shapes.>Stu: [...]We inherit that from our parents. If you take a slice through your low back, you will look down and bird’s eye view and see the shape of your disc. Some are oval. If you twist an oval disc (an oval disc likes to twist).>[...]Now, if you take the typical middle linebacker from NFL, they don’t have oval discs. By definition to survive in that sport, they have to take a lot of compression and they have much bigger, thicker, much bigger radius discs. But they’re shaped like a lima bean when you look down on them. they are big and indent at the back where the spinal canal is. >>76885086>I'm a fat retard and parrot fellow fat clueless retards like mark ripplefat rather than listen to actual experts in the fieldInteresting point you make dually noted.
>>76885113meant for>>76885099dunno why it quoted this guy >>76885086
>>76878042For some reason I'm very injury-prone. My lower back and my hip flexors are pretty stiff and my pelvis is skewed to one side. So far I've avoided deadlifting because I'm afraid of injuring myself again. Will back extensions and rows be sufficient for lower back development?
>>76878042Deadlifting is for redditors
it's just ego lifting and muh it feels good
>>76878050>it's fun andi just don't feel it. never did. it's the least fun exercise
>>76882071This r/ss thread illustrates beautifully what's wrong with squats and deadlifts: that people are in denial about the reality of the inherent risks of catastrophic injury these exercises come with.>If you snap your back, your form wasn't *actually* good. Because if your form was *actually* good, you wouldn't have snapped your back :^)But even if you disregard this classic example of a no-true-scotsman argument, and assume it's true that it's physically impossible to snap your back with good form:The idea that someone will always have perfect and infallible form, when chasing PRs on a workout-to-workout basis using progressive overload on a program such as SS, is delusional.Squats and deadlifts will always have a small but inherent risk of catastrophic injury. And unless your actual goals require you to progress on these specific lifts, it's much more rational to do variations or alternative exercises instead.
>>76879788Damn Milo Sheep has a humiliation fetish of posting his distended gut like his daddy mike ???? Well, figures i guess
>>76886813If you snap your back you're indeed a genetic dead end, lifting is simply not for you and you should be doing pilates or spin cycling or zumba in the class next door. Leave the gym, stop trying to force your fate to become Klokov or Panagiotis Tarinidis. You're never gonna make it. You're not him as the kids say. It is over for you. Why arent you playing badminton instead ? Oh nevermind please stay in the gym actually, who's gonna subsidize my 100$ a year nationwide membership if you're not in the gym doing meme rehab exercises and chest supported 70° buttplug barbell pronated yates rows with 55lbs
>>76885086there is a lot more variation between frames and joint health than most people appreciate i think.people jack off about how you have to do THIS or THAT to get stronger and blah blah blah. you dont exactly get stronger if you get hurt so fuckin bad it hurts to bend over.people polarize with opinions this so hard like everything else. it carries risk like everything else
>>76886813Last time I checked, you were more likely to get a serious injury like a hernia from the leg press.I have no stats on barbell and DB bent over rows but both feel much riskier to me when I do them. Even weighted chinups scare me more. OHP with the mindset you describe is garbage too.You don't randomly snap your shit with a modest weight squat/DL just as you don't randomly tear your pec with a modest weight bench press. But people are intuitively careful about what weight they put over their face while they just aren't with what weight they squat/DL.I'd be interested in seeing a study on the injury rates among people with good form and appropriate weights who aren't pushing singles for competition or ignore their bodies' signals and just mindlessly try to PR. Otherwise you're comparing risk factors, not exercises.Last point: 99% of injuries don't happen in the gym but outside. And I'm willing to bet that people who think they're strong because they're pushing weights on a machine but have shit tendons, shit core, shit bracing, shit stabilization, shit feel for their body are more likely to injured themselves then.
>>76878042spinal erector exercise
>>76886864>ignore their bodies' signals and just mindlessly try to PR.I might be the only person who deadlifts and doesn't try to PR regularly. And I did at first, it's the lift of ego lifting. It's like driving a supercar on an empty highway, who isn't going to break the speed limit?
>>76885031Your first point is actually retarded, I can feel the muscles being activated yet I'm not building themI can buy your second point because I have horrendous deadlift proportions and my max was like 325 for 5 reps and I've never felt comfortable doing it where I consider it heavy, meanwhile my ohp is 165 3x5 and I think I could do more but I just can't be fucked to pursue strength training
I hit 4 plates in deadlift mixed grip and I stopped. Had been doing it for years and my form was good but I could feel my lower back, right hip joint starting to get fucked up from the excercise. Its fun to do but it really is an ego lift and I decided the risk to reward factor simply wasnt worth it.
>>76878042Having a core thay braces under 5 plates will do more to protect you from body punches than any amount of "body conditioning" when people punch you while you're doing ab work.
>>76887709 it's well known fact that feel =/= growth along the same line as the retards chasing doms for gains
>>76886852or I could just do any number of the endless lifting variations that aren't well known to cause spinal damage, become strong as fuck and laugh at meme victims who have been sacrificed to the most retarded cult the internet has ever birthed
>>76888321Yet you havent done it yet because you cant.
>>76887096Yeah you can still deadlift and get the benefit of it, just don't ego lift. So many hurt themselves because of shit form, bad programming and ego lifting while not listening to their body.
>>76888338Oh right anyone who disagrees with your meme victims logic is lying or a noob and other such cult indoctrination logic. I'm better than you in every conceivable way. You're a victim nothing else
>ctrl + f>sumo>0 resultsLiterally no reason not to pull sumo, safer for lower back, trains your glutes more
>>76888310Coping, feelings are accurateIf you feel like dogshit you probably shouldn't go liftIf you feel pain something is wrongIf you feel your muscles activating and getting juicy and huge, they are probably growing or you stimulated a growth state
>all the anti deadlift posts on /fit/:>logic and sound arguments about how its an unnecessary risk and there are better options for back developmentall the pro deadlift posts on /fit/:>its le alpha lift u r fucking pusi not real man victim weight bloody basterd bich
>>76889341yes pain and fatigue is a valid signal there's no such thing as feeling your muscles grow hence why it's a well known false biomarker
>>76889399Some feelings are accurate but how do you cut it off at feeling your muscles growWould you dispute that you can feel atrophy as well, it seems obvious to me but I guess it's just common sense bruh
>>76889402there's no such thing and it has been tested ad infinitum. you're free to believe in whatever fairy tales you'd like tho
>>76878042if you're fat it looks impressive
>>76889396>better options for back developmentsuch as?
>>76889421back extension but the reality is it's retarded to perform extremely heavy erector spinae exercises unless you're goal is to Speedrun spinal disorders you're bipedal your erector spinae gets optimal work by being upright and moving your body
>>76882587It's 100% this. People think bending ur back = snapmaxxing and avoid recruiting their lower back in any possible way, then throw belts on for every barbell lift, then never learn how to actually brace, then act surprised when their weak-ass lower backs get injured and blame it on the movement they were doing instead of their own dumbassery.
>>76889815belts are stupid and don't work. it's not possible to have a "weak" lower back and be capable of picking up several hundred pounds off the floor. I've seen thousands of people snap their shit up doing just that. deadlift is a retarded exercise and pointless. the lower is already strong if you're a fucking bum. the lower back needs to be trained directly as much as the neck: never.
>>76889856Belts give you extra pressure to supplement your brace but it doesn't do anything if you don't know how to brace in the first place
>>76889856>never train an entire muscle group because uhhh... some retards also didn't train it and got injured deadliftingPost body.
>>76880147Look at home that white boy instinctively throws his sissy bussy at the ground as if he was rutting with a BBC Nubian king. Whiteboys are so breedable
>>76889958if you have a fucked up spine they make matters worse and most people aren't wearing them to lift more they think it protects their spine it does no such thing>>76889960you train your lower back everyday by being bipedal. you literally can't stand upright and perform activities without constantly using your lower back to a greater degree than most musculature. again. do you directly train your neck too? if not then stfu. you neglect all kinds of body parts. when's the last time you trained your tibial plateau directly you coward
>>76878042ignore biomechanics fags and powershitters, I'll make it simple:if you spend a lot of time sitting down, you need to do something to counter that. what's the opposite of sitting down? standing up. how can you make standing up really hard? deadlift and squatdeadlift + abs is the most important day of the week
