It seems too good to be true. No other diet has made weight loss this easy and without forcing me to give up all the foods I love. I still miss carbs but I can snack on ham and cheese ok. I feel stronger than before too like my body is optimized and not saturated with parasitic yeast.
>>76885683That picture is da opposite of da ketoNice oil plate are u an oil refinery? That mist be da cuisine everyone talks about everyone do da cuisine nowadays
>>76885683Post body, you retarded or b8ing faggot.
>>76885686Everyone do da cuisine they do da restaurants They do da sues vide where u put food and boil it in da plastic because dat makes perfect sense it's very sophisticated and cuisine-like Very fancy and very urban
>>76885683Carnivore made me feel so good it blackpilled me on the food-pharma complex. It's pure evil meant to harvest people like cattle. And you try to share the good word and no one hears you. But you feel better than you did at 18 so you keep going.
>>76885696It's very urban u know Sous vide is so urban and city center When u boil food in a plastic bag that's city center
the diet hides very well because it's very deceptive and incredibly hard to get past the hump due to the perils of everyday life. the idea of feeling sick for weeks, having rashes and your breath wreaking is enough to make anyone think twice. add in all the fud and the average person stands no chance of utilizing this diet long term
>>76885696The best thing you can do for carnivore movement is to shut up about it and only tell people after they ask.
>>76885683>parasitic yeastOP is mentally ill.
>>76885696>blackpilled me on the food-pharma complex.You really shouldn't take nutrition advice from grifters online.
>>76885698What I love to do is boil all my food in plastic bags
>>76885727Cos that's cuisineWhen u do da cuisine u are city center When u eat cuisines u are the city center
>>76885725As opposed to grifters in grocery stores, government and on Television, and online?
>>76885727>>76885731Good Lord, make your samefagging less obvious, you stupid pathetic bitch.
>>76885756You should listen to the guidelines yes. Ignoring people who have dedicated to their lives to this is very silly. Conspiracy theories are not an argument. https://www.dietaryguidelines.gov
>>76885777>trust me bro this committee dedicated their lives to being paid off by big food and pharmawhat a waste of trips on such a retarded comment>Our analysis found that 95 % of the committee members had COI with the food and/or pharmaceutical industries and that particular actors, including Kellogg, Abbott, Kraft, Mead Johnson, General Mills, Dannon and the International Life Sciences, had connections with multiple members.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10966930/
>>76885683Hairloss
>>76885937any data that lists ketoacidosis under keto diet can be discarded without further explanation
>>76885683do whatever you gotta do to get rid of your double chin, cut out salt, cut out bread and white rice, if you do all this and still have a fat face you have to beardfraud, you only have one life anon dont have a double chin
>>76885683Mostly performance decline in more intense forms of exercise. Also fat metabolism is really genetic driven some people can't tolerate more then 50g without it being like stepping on the gas pedal to atherosclerosis. It's not horrible if you can tolerate it well and are sensible about the kinds of fats you're eating. If you're just doing it lose weight nut up and do p-smf lot faster lot more reliable losses stick better even in crash dieting contrary to what all the diet shills selling books say.
>>76885683Tons>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28630601/> The linear and non-linear high-CHO diets in the comparison both caused significant performance improvements, while no significant improvement was seen in the KD>Wilson et al. [56] recently reported similar increases in strength and power in a protein and calorie-matched comparison of a KD and a Western diet model, suggesting that KD might have less ergolytic potential for strength training.>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28012184/>No significant increases were observed in total body weight (- 0.9 [- 2.3, 0.6]; p > 0.05; ES = [- 0.18]) and muscle mass (- 0.1 [- 1.1,1.0]; p > 0,05; ES = - 0.04) in the KD group>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0920121116302698?via%3Dihub>Children on the KD exhibited differences in skeletal development that may be related to the diet. The changes were independent of height but appear to be exaggerated in patients who are ambulant. Clinicians should be aware of potential skeletal side effects and monitor bone health during KD treatment. Longer term follow up is required to determine adult/peak bone mass and fracture risk throughout life.>https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/hy1101.095332>We conclude that a dietary intervention in which pregnant women increased their consumption of meat and reduced their consumption of carbohydrate-rich foods resulted in elevation of their offspring’s blood pressure during adult life.
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>>76886072wild that you post only the rare few short term studies that show exercise performance decrement. almost as if youre here in bad faithhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6863116/
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>>76886072>>Children on the KD exhibited differences in skeletal development that may be related to the diet.or due to the drugs theyre on. either way theres no way to know for sure because this isnt controlled in any way>It is recognized that anti epileptic drug (AED) use is associated with lower bone mineral density (BMD) in both adults and children (Sheth et al., 1995, Petty et al., 2005, Babayigit et al., 2006, Sheth et al., 2008).
CICO keto OMAD is the single best diet for fat loss since you don't really go hungry because you don't spike your insulin.Keto is the best for cutting.Keto is good for maintenance since you look leaner because you don't hold as much water.Keto isn't good for performance, if you need to, for example, run/cycle/swim for a long duration. But since long duration cardio is proven to kill your gains and HIIT cardio is the king of cardio, that really doesn't matter.Overall if you're maintaining, you should be eating carbs, as long as they come from fruit and not man-made starch bombs like grains/potatoes/rice and refined sugar.
>>76886251>Keto isn't good for performancemaybe for some people or in the short term while your body is adapting. but in the aggregate that doesnt seem to be the case>The meta-analysis showed that K-LCHF diets did not affect aerobic capacity and exercise performance.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34445057/
>>76886237I can't imagine being so retarded. I really can't. My toddler can have more critical thinking than you. This is what a diet the followed the food pyramid would follow. Completely healthy and would be an improvement to 90% people living in the United Stated of AMERICA.
>>76886235>rare kek you mean majority?
>>76886235>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6863116/>The corresponding author, Dr Caryn Zinn has co-authored a book titled “What The Fat – Sports performance” which assume an LCHF nutrition approach; co-author, Dr Dan Plews, delivers an online course which focuses on LCHF nutrition for endurance athletes. The authors report no other conflicts of interest in this work.Oh is that...a...CONFLICT OF INTEREST? ON MY SCHIZOPHRENIC FITNESS BOARD AFREAD OF EVERYHING WITH A MONEY TRIALoh gosh it can't be true.
>>76886260youve yet to provide any compelling evidence anybody should care to follow the food pyramid. we do know for a fact that it is dictated by a committee dominated by special interests >>76885799
>>76886263no i mean majority >>76886258>>76886267other meta analysis find consistent results from the RCTs >>76886258
>>76886268You have yet to prove that their interests influenced the data in any way. Whole grains are associated with better healthfiber is associated with better healthVeggies and fruit are associated with better healthOh no people who own these products want to prove how healthy they are?Strange you would think that it would be easy to DISPROVE how healthy whole grains, veggies and fruits are. OhOhThere is ZERO human data showing us that whole grains, veggies and fruits are bad for us? oh oh but. what about. I need. what about the SCHIZOPHRENISCS
>>76886277>whole grains, veggies and fruits are bad for usthat is what the WHI trial showed. proved is a bit too strong of a word
>>76886272>torturing the data to get the results they wanttypical. A real man would just post the individual studies in a wall of text.
>>76886280>I just lie about findings.
>>76886287how is the data "tortured"? their result was not unique afaik>Overall, the majority of null results across studies suggest that a KD does not have a positive or negative impact on physical performance compared with a CON diet.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32865567/
>>76886290>im a moron that screenshots AI summariestheir was one single statistically signficant finding from the original publication. lets see if AI can tell you what that was? ill even give you a head start retard-anon. heres the linkhttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16467234/
>>76886306>can't debunk common knowledgeLmao. Sorry man you didn't catch anything that the experts missed. Very open and shut.
>>76886312id argue it was hidden deliberately due to how bad it would look. either way concession accepted
>>76886306what the fuck are you talking about?https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23608304/
>>76886321thats not the original publication. thats a post hoc sub group analysis. in other words they published some junk to try and save their hides
>>76886306here are people who still doubt whole grains after the decades of evidence spanning millions of people. > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31159235/> Intake of whole grains is associated with decreased body weight> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24158434/> Whole grain intake is associated with decreased risk of Type 2 Diabetes and refined grains are NOT associated with increased risk of Type 2 Diabetes> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32552292/> Increasing tertiles of fiber intake were significantly associated with 3% lowered risk MetS in adolescents age 13-18 years. Additionally, increasing intake tertiles of fiber were associated with reduced risk elevated cholesterol (5-11% reduction), elevated diastolic blood pressure (10-23% reduction) in adolescents age 13-18 years, and risk of obesity (3-5% reduction) in children and adolescent age 2-18 years. Increasing tertiles of whole grain intake were only associated with reduced risk of elevated triglycerides (52% risk reduction) in adolescents age 13-18 years.> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31301131/> Whole grain intake does not increase inflammation and may decrease inflammation
>>76886306??????
>>76886328none of these hold up when tested except arguably the last one
>>76886333Don't bother. He is a schizophrenic. I cannot imagine anyone with half a braincell thinking fiber and whole grains are healthy for us despite decades of research.> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38011755/> This comprehensive meta-analysis provides additional evidence supporting the protective association between fiber intake and all-cause and cause-specific mortality rates.>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23326148/>Dietary fiber intake can obviously increase stool frequency in patients with constipation. >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35816465/>Fiber supplementation is effective at improving constipation>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25552267/>A higher dietary fiber intake was associated with a reduced risk of death>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30166965/>This review suggests that those consuming the highest amounts of dietary fiber may benefit from a reduction in the incidence of developing colorectal cancer, and there also appears to be a small reduction in the incidence of breast cancer.>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38153313/>Taken together, this paper suggests that promoting a high-fiber diet may be an effective strategy for the prevention and management of cancer.>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24355537/>Greater dietary fibre intake is associated with a lower risk of both cardiovascular disease and coronary heart disease.>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26711548/>Our findings suggest that high dietary fibre intake is associated with a reduced risk of mortality from CVD and all cancers. These results support the current recommendation that high dietary fibre intake should be part of a healthy diet.
>>76886333>the AI that tells me men are women says the orthodoxy is correcti know thinking is tough anon but try it you may even enjoy it
>>76886338>hold up when testedYes 4chan user. Tell me how the science works lmao. I'm sure you were there.
>>76886339>association>associated with>may benefit>may be>associated with>is associated withall of these supposed beneficial associations vanish in controlled RCTs
>>76886343hypothesis AND test retard-anon. surely they taught you that in fifth grade?
>>76885683Honestly I've been looking at a lot of studies recently. It seems like the main downside to keto is disadvantaging your type I fibers. So don't try to lift, do some other form of resistance training instead.If you care about having big muscles I would probably cycle keto with a normal diet.The best weight loss diet is still psmf though.
>>76886352Weird how every major dietary association in the world uses them...but random 4chan user says "no"?????Who do I believe in these trying times. How does random 4chan user explain results of the studies in the first place? They are only millions of individuals all experiencing positive results with confounders controlled for. Surely there must be some magic confounder he knows about the experts all missed.
>>76886339>decades of researchhttps://www.nature.com/articles/nrcardio.2009.131
>>76886364Anon stop. He can't explain the mystery confounder. You just can't use epidemiology. YOU CAN'T BECAUSE YOU CANT
>>76886367>confounders controlled for.you dont understand control. if you want control you would randomize. even that isnt perfect but its the best we can do. see >>76886368
Keto gave me pancreatitis
>>76886375>weak associations magically disappear whenever an RCT is conductedsurely you can explain this one anon >>76886368
>>76886368Thank god you posted that opinion piece. I didn't know what to think for a second there. Do you have any grifter that can point me in the direction of actual evidence that fiber, whole grains and veggies are harmful to humans? No?
>>76886383>nature paper author>griftersure thing anon>actual evidence that fiber, whole grains and veggies are harmful to humansi posted it you just wont read it. >>76886342
>>76886375>You just can't use epidemiology.I didn't. My line of thought here is purely theoretical. Ketosis in the liver is not fast or efficient enough to provide energy output to type I fibers like locally available glycogen.
>>76886380>https://www.nature.com/articles/nrcardio.2009.131Thats not an RCT...
>>76886364>>76886392Fuck me. I mean type II/III fibers. Type I are the beta-oxidative ones.
>>76886390Holy fuck. I didn't realize I wasn't reading a NATURE paper.
>>76886364it's not and there's no such thing. your body will use muscle fibers as needed. keto fud knows no bounds
>>76886380>RCTAnon...
>>76886395yea i know retard-anon. the point is just to confirm what ive been saying all along. the beneficial associations are not confirmed in RCTs
>>76886401>yeah I was just testing you. I'm not retarded I swear. The experts are the ones who are all wrong.
>>76886398>everybody who disagrees with me is a schizo or grifteri think its time to take your meds lil bro
>>76886404>experts are a monolith and all agree on everything. if they dont theyre griftingokay...
>>76886400the RCTs are being referenced to make a point. youre being deliberately obtuse
>>76886419>can’t directly post any>”check out my control-F”I feel like I’m just beating up a corpse at this point.
>>76886467except i did and you ignored it >>76886306and then ignored it again >>76886342and again >>76886390
I can't even...What the actual fuck is happening in this threqd, who is arguing what
>>76886477I think my sous vide comments were the most coherent, in retrospect Because they were actually a deeper social commentary Idk wtf u retards are on about I just woke upI gotta wake up to this shit???
>>76886471>0 RCT’s posted
>>76886260He's got you defending the food pyramid, you've already lost
>>76885683Getting into ketosis right now. Got the keto flu coupled with an upper respiratory infection too. Shit sucks, but hydration and electrolytes help. Big shift metabolically. Lots of sleep. Week off training, it ain't no thang.
>>76886477
>>76886399>Namely, in the gastrocnemius muscle collected from male mice following a four-week keto diet (with an unspecified composition) and both a single exhaustive treadmill running and weight-bearing swimming test, the mRNA expression of Pdk4 was upregulated relative to a control dietThough it seems like cardio protects against it? Which is interesting, I do wonder if trying to build muscle on a keto diet results in more type II fibers overall
>>76886488Now this is EPIC
>>76886364>If you care about having big muscles I would probably cycle keto with a normal dietThis is why you cycle keto on and off. Once established, you can go 5 days keto/2 days carbs-cycle. You need the ghrelin/leptin balance. You CAN have your cake and eat it too, just in the 2 day window only. There. Big muscles, anabolic effect.
>>76886521Agreed anon. I would probably do high carb/zero fat another 4 days, then leave one day for psmf.
>>76886527Cool, that's awesome. You get it, anon.
>>76886515Muscle fiber science is so all over the place I think the best explanation is that our muscle fiber types adapt quickly and easily to whatever we do. No, keto does not turn you into an endurance only mode. It's nonsense. Multiple fast twitch sports athletes have competed at highest level possible on keto.
>>76886480i gotta post this sous vide on pol and on ckcos i got a real problem with this and it needs to be aired out
The cholesterol deposits you get around your eyes look horrible.
>>76886678xanthelasma doesn't occur in normal people on carnivore diet it's extremely rare
>>76885777>https://www.dietaryguidelines.govI just went and read most of the guidelines and when you go to the saturated fat section it tells you to replace saturated fat with PUFA. This is insane. >The Dietary Guidelines for Americans, 2020–2025 carried forward previousquantitative recommendations for limiting saturated fat and replacing it with unsaturated fats, particularlyPUFA, and highlighted the importance of consuming a healthy dietary pattern. Because the 2020–2025edition included infants and young children from birth to 24 months, it also clarified that the quantitativesaturated fat recommendation applies starting at age 2. Despite the consistency of the saturated fatrecommendation over time, less than 20 percent of U.S. individuals ages 1 year and oldera currently meetit.7
I always look at these threads thinking that I seriously must have just different brain chemistry to some people. I don't need a "low carb" or "low fat" diet to lose weight. I just don't eat. And I get lean...every single time. I think you guys are just genuinely mentally twisted, and that fatness is a disorder of the brain where any slight hunger triggers an emergency response. Maybe fat fucks are right that it's genetic.
>>76886664>I think the best explanation is that our muscle fiber types adapt quickly and easily to whatever we do.It's phenotypically relevant though. More type II/III fibers means you burn more fats at rest overall, and more type I fibers mean you burn more glucose at rest overall. In ketosis, triglyceride transport enzymes are upregulated in skeletal muscle.>No, keto does not turn you into an endurance only mode.As above, not doing cardio during keto causes glycogen depletion. I wonder if doing cardio causes the body to store glycogen using gluconeogenesis while the (presumably endurance) muscles run off fats for that time.
>>76886678These are caused by seed oils.While seed oils are keto they are not clean healthy keto and should be avoided.
>>76885683The primary downside to keto/carnivore is that there is a high probability that you become an unbearable faggot that screeches just as loud or louder than vegans about your dietary choices. Even if no one is listening, you'll keep autistically screeching into the void.
>>76886707It's not (mostly) genetic, but there has been at least one study recently that showed obesity causes changes in brain chemistry that may be permanent. Basically, you get dumber and hungrier, and it may not revert after you lose weight. Also, the number of fat cells you have is (normally) stable once you reach adulthood, they just expand or contract as you gain/lose fat. BUT, if you gain enough fat, the fat cells reach their limit, become unstable, and split to form new fat cells. Then if you lose weight, those new fat cells don't go away, they just shrink. And you still get all that hormone signalling from the fat cells that they are starving and please stuff your fat fucking face.Essentially you get fat enough and you will have built a body that will keep you fat forever if you let up for an instant. Former fatties that stay lean/fit are in a fight to the death with themselves every single day. Turns out, actions have consequences.
>>76888012This kind of absurd broscience always makes me LOL.
>>76887990We don't have any keto schizos from reddit that come here daily to have melties over any specific diet. We do have the vegan Moxyte that monitors every single thread waiting to have a melty over keto.
>>76887990The only thing I notice is people like you shouting down keto anytime the topic comes up not vice versa
>>76888133>>76888298All <insert diet dogma> cultists are irredeemable faggots. Find something that works and do it. Don't spam proselytizations—which is what OP is—all god damn day. Don't have a breakdown because something different works for someone else. Pretty easy, but impossible around here.
>>76888425i literally would not post a single thing about keto here ever if it weren't for an endless bombardment of bizarre anti keto posts daily
>>76885683Most people who have problems with keto it's always because they eat too little fat, and their body has to depend on protein as a source of energy.The hair loss and other health problems only happen if you do NOT eat enough fat. If you eat enough fat you will have no issues.This is a common problem because most cuts of meat commercially sold are too lean. Try to include fat trimmings (you can ask your butcher) or eat a few eggs with every meal (drinking them is best).Ignore the vegan shills in this thread trying to convince you that meat will give you cancer, or make your heart explode, or that saturated fat and cholesterol are bad in any way for you. Their bullshit has been debunked a million times.
>>76888425There is no such thing as "everyone is different!" when it comes to diet. All animals have a natural diet that is mandated onto them by their biology and the digestive organs their body has, and there is no room for subjectivity or interpretation.Imagine someone saying >not all rabbits are the same!>not all goats or cows are the same!>some do well eating grass, some others can thrive by eating pizza, soda and beer!>see? this cow was raised eating doritos and drinking mountain dew, and it's doing fine!>their bodies are different!! It just works for this one!Someone like that would be seen as a complete retard by most people, because these animals have a digestive system that OBLIGATES them to eat grass and similar plants.The same logic applies to humans. Our digestive system, down to the length, type of stomach, acidity, bacterial flora, etc. is incredibly similar to that of dogs, cats, and other obligate carnivores.Our pancreas doesn't even produce the right kind of insulin to deal with the blood glucose spike caused by consuming carbohydrates. Our insulin is specifically suited to deal with the glucose spike caused by PROTEIN from meat. Source: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ihJDXwOnpxMIf you actually understand how the human body actually works, you understand that all claims of plants being healthy or necessary to our biology are completely false.Veganism is a modern fad that was heavily promoted by the institutions 10 years ago, around 2015. It's not for health, it's a POLITICAL movement.Meanwhile, the ketogenic diet is THE most well studied diet and has been around FOR OVER 100 YEARS, with incredibly ample evidence for its usefulness.Any and all arguments against the natural diet of our species inherently come from a place of IGNORANCE, of simply not understanding how the human body works.
>>76886260>oatmealEnjoy your glyphosate>skim milkWhy would you intentionally remove fat-soluble vitamins from your food? You need animal fat.>whole grain breadWe did not evolve to eat grains. This is evidenced by the fact that you cannot digest them in their raw form.>kaleLmao. We can't digest cellulose.>pastaYou get nothing out of it but a blood sugar spike.Even the modest amount of protein is mostly gluten, which is unusable to us.>BroccoliSee, this is how I know you're uninformed. Why include both kale and broccoli? They are both from the same species of plant, selectively bred by humans. Anyone that includes kale, broccoli, cauliflower, brussel sprouts as different "vegetables" is dishonest at best. >I blindly trust nutritional guidelines without question, but everyone else lacks critical thinkingJust stop. Leave this website and go back to the updoot cesspit where you belong.
>>76888505>blah blah blah I'm a giant faggot that can't shut my cock holster of a mouth for two minutes blah blah blahThanks for proving my point.
>>76888523>I'm too dumb to grasp complex topics and too brainrotted to read a long text.>Everyone who's not retarded like me is a faggot!Yeah, no wonder you have no strong opinions on anything.
>>76888459How do I drink eggs without getting salmonella
>>76888534It's not my first rodeo. Nothing I say will change your mind; I learned that lesson a long time ago. Now, I just do a drive by on these threads every couple of months to make fun of you. That's as much effort as you are worth. Anyway, off to make better use of my time. Have fun spamming this thread to the top of the catalog until its time to move onto the next one.
DAILY REMINDERThe op (kekke) is a 38 year old trooned out wog from australia. He doesn't work and literally does not go outside. His life revolves around spamming 4chan. DAILY REMINDER
>>76888562You're just an arrogant dipshit that thinks he's smarter than everyone yet can't contest anyone's arguments because you know nothing.The world is full of people like you, who think they all have it figured out, but can't debate anything for shit.In the same amount of time you've spent sniffing your own farts and telling everyone else how smart you are, you could've actually addressed any of my points, but you can't because you don't know anything. You are the one that's a waste of everyone else's time.>>76888561Salmonella are bacteria already present in your digestive tract. They are beneficial and their role in your organism is to digest food to nourish you.If you've never drank raw eggs, don't start too hard. Buy only free range eggs, never caged, and only drink one or two at once.Your stomach will make a few weird noises the first few times since it's not used to it, but don't be afraid.
>>76885683>It seems too good to be true. It is.>No other diet has made weight loss this easy and without forcing me to give up all the foods I love. Everything you consume is a diet.All structured diets work, if you follow the diet.It's actually easier to just not eat.>I still miss carbs but I can snack on ham and cheese ok. Not an excuse to forgo calorie limits and healthy limits of fat intake.>I feel stronger than before too like my body is optimized and not saturated with parasitic yeast.Only while you can maintain ketosis.It's only meant to be a short term diet.Quick and dirty way for fat loss.High stakes if not followed properly.Almost everywhere who "does" it,is just killing themselves faster.
>>76885683>It seems too good to be true. No other diet has made weight loss this easy and without forcing me to give up all the foods I love. I still miss carbs but I can snack on ham and cheese ok. I feel stronger than before too like my body is optimized and not saturated with parasitic yeast.same experience here, actively reject carbs now for happiness, strengh, and more like superb performance.
>>76888459Stop using my picture to push your meme diet
Why not just supplement β-hydroxybutyrate directly? Seems like it gives you all the benefits of keto with none of the downsides
>>76889372expensive and with side effects and dubious results. the human body makes a fuckload of bhb and it is this form that has all the benefits. your body being overloaded with glucose already might be detrimental to add in a bunch of ketones on top
>>76889393>expensiveSure>side effects>dubious resultsWhat side effects? Every study I've read so far indicates that supplementing produces equal or better results than endogeneous ketogenesis>it is this form that has all the benefitsIt's the same molecule, whether produced internally or supplemented externally.>overloaded with glucoseWhy would this happen? Either the BHB does nothing, or it does something and less glucose is used, therefore your body produces less glucose (or in an excess of dietary carbs, more is stored as fat).
>>76889405I honestly don't care to prove you wrong supplement it idgaf
>>76889167>It's only meant to be a short term diet.>Quick and dirty way for fat loss.>High stakes if not followed properly.>Almost everywhere who "does" it,>is just killing themselves faster.Meant by whom? You wake up in ketosis every day. It's your body's natural state.
>>76889456>You wake up in ketosis every day.No you don't retard
>>76885683the biggest downside is the same as doing anything that doesn't conform to the norms: you have to deal with every retard who thinks they're smart or clever trying to argue with you and gaslight you for being different. Humans really are pathetic weak jealous insecure losers
>>76889466Did someone hurt your fee fees? Don't worry, you are mommy's special, unique snowflake. Softest shit I've read all day.
>>76889466This is always the case for those who try to be better. Be fit and they will attack you for it. Be smart and they will attack you for it. Be rich and they will attack you for it. Most people are crabs in the bucket trying to drag you down with them. It should not stop you ascending.
>>76889459you snacking all day fatty?
>upsides to ketogenic dietsYou lose fat, don't feel hungry, and feel all around better.>downsides to ketogenic dietsYou can't discuss your success with it without schizo plebbit tourists having a meltdown on you for not eating s.oybeans.
>>76889459Unless you take in a massive dose of sugar right before bed, then yes. Yes you do.
>>76888562Why dont you disprove what he said?
ketochads win againveginschizos in shambles
