We are going deeper than faustian finasteride and minoxidil. Without building blocks, the body cannot repair itself. Here is what I compiled:>Nutrition vital for hairvitamins K2 & D3 (grass fed butter and sardines)boron (Borax protocol)trace minerals (shellfish)magnesium (pumpkin seeds) silica (fruit and veggie skins)copper (oysters)glycine (skin, tendons, cartilage)sulfur (onions & garlic)>"Foods" to avoidseed oils (basedbean, canola, corn, cottonseed, sunflower, safflower, grapeseed, rice bran, etc.)high fructose corn syrup (just says "corn syrup" on the label to fool you)mystery preservativesnumber dyes
how screwed am i?
>>76888537What about Vit E and Biotin
>>76888579artie lange/10, start doing coke and get fat immediately
>>76888579id go for a shorter haircut and some facial hair. you arent at the shave it bald point tho
>>76888579You are not screwed at all, but you are at the point where you need to seriously decide if you want to keep your hair.If you want to keep it, you probably know the drill, fin and min and you are on it for as long as you want to keep your hair. If you don't want to use both, you can use just fin instead.Do that for a year consistently and see what you get. You might get some regrowth on your temples, but if you don't you can always get a transplant for just that part.
>>76888588The list is not complete. What do they do?
Am i fucked? My hair line doesnt seem that far back but i can tell i have significantly less hair than i did the last time it was this long. The strands at the front feel very far apart.
>>76888675fin+min while there's still hopealso are those grey hairs lmao
>>76888537I shaved my head but still taking 0.5mg dut and topical minox. I may be schizo.
>>76888703based
>>76888697I got mad grey hairs, life be like that fr
Dont use shampoo, that stopped my hairloss
>>7688853780% of men start out at NW0 why is NW0 never pictured?
>>76888537Vitamin C. It's a prodrug to a DKK1 inhibitor, and DKK1 is one of the major downstream inflammatory players in AGA that doesn't get meme'd compared to DHT.
I've been off /fit/ for about 8 years. Is finasteride/minoxidil a no-go for some reason?
>>76888978Those drugs are a psyops to troon you out. Instead of patching a disease why find the reason? Like wearing polyester caps for a long time causes hair loss because of the static charge. Other causes are from fungus which can be treated with chlorine dioxide CDS. Some say gravity is another so sleeping without a pillow allows better blood circulation in the scalp. Shampoo is a big one.
>>76888994u got a source on the trooning, been on fin for a year. Hair loss stopped, regained maybe 20% thickness and it's probably taken my hair back 4-5 years in time tbqh.Slightly weird semen consistency at one point, but not normal, maybe a bit thicker. No other sides, but genuinely open to hear shit.
have transplant consultation on friday and have no idea what to say, i want a NW 0.5 v shaped hairline w/ exaggerated temple peaks and widows peak. currently nw 2-2.5 w shit temples atm. no idea what to show/ask on the day of consultation. wish ik how to draw, luckily the surgeon is known to be aggressive want something like the kirk meme, just an androgenic bully hairline, can go up to 2500 grafts just dkwtf im doing.>>76888537all retarded, just do ru and dut and live
>>76889013>No other sides, but genuinely open to hear shit.no, post fin syndrome is unironic incel fud
>>76889261That is a really strange hairline m8. Don't get me wrong, it's not bad and definitely way better than mine, but I have seriously never fucking seen a hairline like that. I'm planning to go into for a consultation myself after the holidays, so good luck anon.
>>76888537You realize boron increases free androgens? This is elementary shit even in terms of a natural way of reversing it
>>76889261>>76889289That is not a NW2 hairline it's still quite straight you just have an actual widow's peak and your anterior temple projection is average if not above average. It looks like you've had a hair transplant before imo
>>76889289ty anon it used to mog hard on the right, when i was doing daily dut and ru, and i went nw2 after stopping for around 2 years.
>>76889301it looks good from these screenscaps tbqh, its just that my face is overly narrow and long exasperating/masking the issue. so that might be why it doesnt scream nw2. I like my hairline shaping, w the peak and temple prokection I just want it all to come dwn a few mm's. would be happy w a design like this applying the rule of thirds.
>>76889316*cm-inches lol
>>76889316are you English?
>>76889297Hair loss is caused by cortisol, estrogen, and prolactin, not androgens.
>>76889460burger, consulting burger surgeon
>>76889471stfu peattard
>>76889474Does Ray Peat trigger you?
>>76889490no i eat a cup of sugar a day, but also use dut and ru
>>76888537>seed oilshave nothing to do with balding, arachidonic acid is in every animal flesh on the planet including beef and lamb
Just started fin and dut in augustHow bad is the damage chat? Zoomer obv
Why do you retards over-complicate hair loss treatments? It's literally just taking fin+minox+dermaroller. If you don't get the results then save 5K and go to Turkey for a transplant. That's it.
>>76889589I prefer finasteride, hair, skin, and nails multi vitamin, viviscal, and nutrafol11 capsules/tablets a day though>>76889472the only people I've seen who look like you are either Anglo or Puerto Rican>no relation
>>76889586dermaroll, fin, and minox buddyworst case scenario you book a flight to turkey
Fin fucked me up super badly, got on it November last year and quit March of this year, took a good 6 months to feel 'normal' again but, for lack of a better term, it feels like I got spiritually severed from the world ever since.Am I retarded for considering trying it again? I'm thinking of very slowly titrating up and doing topical only 3x weekly. Now that I know what sides I had I can always abandon ship if they come back, but I'm terrified of them being permanent this time.
>>76889471The association of lower shbg/higher free androgens and balding was found in the same studies that have found higher prolactin/estrogen/cortisol
>>76889589absolute retard
>>76888537Ketoconazole shampoo + finasteride + minoxidil. Thank me later.
>>76889261i don't understandare you the left image? if so then why are you considering a hair transplant with zero recession?
>>76888537MSM is probably a good addition but you still need fin/dut to keep DHT from absolutely wrecking your hair follicles.
>>76888978>>76888994FinaSTERID (steroid)>>76889261Don't go for NW0 because 99% of hair transplant doctors can't achieve the necessary density. I went from NW2-2.5 to NW1.5 with a focus on density.
>>76889586You need a transplant, the follicles are just gone.>>76889589Tretinoin 1-3x a week > dermaroller
>>76889692>it feels like I got spiritually severed from the world ever since.BS. I got muh neurosteroids from dutasteride but it only took about two weeks off of it to get better. And fin has neither an effect on muh neurosteroids nor does it last that long in the body.But yeah try 0.1mg every (other) day and slowly tiltrate up until you reach a dose you can tolerate. That's what I did with statins.
>>76890254Idk what to tell you dude I got hit with so many sides it was unreal. It wasn't nocebo, either, because the only side I heard of before I experienced them was limp dick and I didn't get that one. Yolo tho, I'll titrate up and see what happens.
>>76889261All i see is a norwood 1
>>76889692Just use topical
>>76889586I had a slightly worse hairline. Got myself a HT to correct it and it's densely packed, my widows peak was losing density pre-OP so I was moving to vertex.
>>76888978No they are literally the only thing that works. Anyone saying otherwise is a psycho loser who wont post hair.
>>76890354Breezula successfully completed its phase 3 study and published so that is a viable third way.
If you peruse all the latest research you'll find metabolic health is strongly correlated to hair loss. Things like inflammation in the scalp is also highly implicated. The scientific community has to really reevaluate whether or not AGA might be an actual disease instead of just a cosmetic problem.
>>76888537The best way is to cycle moderately low doses of diy estrogenalso really good for the skinbut you might grow boobies and cry at random things if you take too much
>>76888661I think you're pretty retarded if you don't know what they do.
>>76888537balding is 100% based on luck bro. i did absolutely nothing you're supposed to do, still have all my hair. meanwhile dudes who do all that still are balding.
>>76889471it's caused by DHT which is the most potent androgen the body produces.
>>76888537wtf does this have to do with fitness? go back to /fa/ you bald fuck
