>Where do I start? old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index >additional info, experiences, advice, Q&A etc. previous >>76808053
soo... Tbol or Dbol for 250test 200tren
>I found lower doses better for bulking ... Let extreme hard training and calorie surplus do most of the work ... When cutting higher dose imo helps hold more muscle and lose more fat ... I like to use 200-400 test to bulk .... 600-800 to cutCame across this post on r*ddit. Is there any chance the guy knows what he is talking about?
>>76893242If those are my only two choices then tbol. Dbol is going to bloat the fuck out of you and spike estro sky high. Tbol is dry at least. If I can choose any oral then I’d go with sdrol or maybe var but my actual rec is to just run some mast or dhb. Test/tren/mast is a classic stack because it just fucking works and makes you feel like a god.
>>76893326Mast is an option, I was mainly curious about more stack potential. No AI needed? I have some Aromasin just sitting in case.
>>76893227It doesnt matter because you'll never put in the work. If you really wanted it, you'd already be lifting and not worried about some arbitrary timeline.If someone does tell you a timeframe you find acceptable, you'll go the gym then quit in a few months when you see no progress and then go back to making "how to achieve" threads with a pic of Gooky the anime character waiting for someone to "redpill" you on how to get jacked without doing anything. loser
>>76893340also I hate pinning so orals are kind of my go-to, unless I can mix all 3 and volumetrically dose it in one go. Probably not though if theyre each 200/250 per ml in MCT
What's happening with masteron lately. Is there some kind of shortage?
>>76893347You definitely can but you’d have to pin more often. I pin daily so I just don’t worry about it I guess. If you have to go with an oral my pick is adrol I guess. Sdrol is better but you really wanna go with the injectable version so we’re back to square one with that. Personally, a little DHT compound with tren negates every side except for the extreme sweating, at least at lower doses like you’re proposing
>>76893421i mean if its that big of an improvement i can suck it up i just have bad experiences with pinning from starting with too small a gauge needles. ill suck it up
>tfw roiding with indian gearSAAAAAAAARS
>>76893227I return to university in 45 days and I'm 40 pounds overweight (260lbs at 5'10). Can I do an extreme diet like PSMF while injecting HGH an HCG to preserve muscle and not crash my test levels?
>>76893242Double the test and tren
>>76893995but... why? I am basically a beginner only did 450mg Test for first cycle and got the hang of things now want to go up a step a bit, I COULD hypothetically do 500/400 each but is the positives worth the negatives? maybe during spring cut ill push extra hard at those doses but currently just want an intermediate stack.
Remember:BnC is retarded and will ruin your fertility, natural t, your heart, and long term life expectancy. Only competitive pro bbs and influencers BnC, and you're not one of them. You just have autoandrophilia
>>76894011>ruin your fertility, natural t, your heart, and long term life expectancyno such thing as safe steroid usage
>>76893975Test, hgh and glp1 is the preferred suicide cut stack
>>76894062>legs
>>76894062why would i want my gear cold? harder to suck and pin
>>76894168Higher density so more gear per gear
I keep getting bubble gut paranoia when it comes to GH. Someone said GH actually doesn't really give you bubble gut and its the insulin abuse that accompanies high GH use that is giving body builders the gut. Does anyone actually know the truth on this? I am probably going to finish my stock of GH and just quit taking the shit until I know for sure that its safe. Because holy shit doing all the work I do to end up with a big gut would be the most cursed shit of all time
>>76894575don't overuse GH and you'll be fine. Your body is not meant to be blasted with high quantity forever. It grows muscles etc but also cancer cells if any. Being reasonnable is the way of longevity
>>76894564i…dont think thats how it works?
Help me improve my cycle guys, pls no bullyFirst half:>Test-E (300 mg/week) + Deca (100 mg/week) + Anastrozole (0,5 mg eod)This is meant to add mass and help strengthen my jointsSecond half:>Test-E (200 mg/week) + Primo-E (300 mg/week)This is meant to dry up and consolidate miofibrillar gains so I'll hold onto more muscle after I come offIs this half decent at least?
>>76894622500 test 300 primo 100 deca from the start to the end. there I fixed it you humungous nigger.
>>76894630I may have to get my hands on more test thenQuestion: why? Besides being "more gear per week" of course.
>>76894622>miofibrillar gainsHold on is this a thing? Test and deca give you fake glycogen gains but primo gives you "real" gains? Never really heard this before. Like I realize there might be more transitory look of size due to the compounds "wetness" but ignoring that I didnt this was really a thing
>>76894002>I am basically a beginnerThen don't do tren
>>76894659AFAIK all of them will give you good miofibrillar gains, they're anabolic steroids after all, but Primo excels at it and it's pretty much the only good reason to use Primo, which is more expensive and not quite more anabolic than Test, let alone Deca.
>>76894661no im gonna do it :) just not a fuck ton at the start
>>76893242Dbol, tbol is for track and field. You wont get sides from dbol if taper up from 10 to 50 plus 50 injectable ontop total 100mg just fullness good pump and strength. The more test you have the more potential for sides. Run with mast or winny lowers sides, I did high deca dbol mast and it was amazing.
>>76894893mast is the call i think here, ill run 250test200tren/wk and 200mast 2x/wk. then give it maybe 6 weeks and see how bloodwork is and see if i want to bump up or just end and PCT before spring cut
>>76894955Test mast bdol is sweet, same as test dbol winny. Tren mast test is alot of peoples fav. Do whatever you enjoy the most.
>>76893227using gear is one of the dumbest things you can do... hope your enlarged organs are worth it for the temporary gains that will go away the second you stop taking them
>>76894622Doses are so low no point getting so technical. Unless youre on gram of test min plus gram or grams of another injectable plus sprinkling of a gram of an oral here there your gains are nothing lol gains on such weak drugs aswell no one cares what you hold onto of such faggot gains. 200mg of test!!!! Pin that eod atleast.
>>76895040Low Test in combo with Primo basically doubles/triples it thoughbeit.
>>76895081Low nothing triples nothing. Primo is very weak drug, min 500 shines at a gram but again, weak builder vs test. Its more to feel good. Low dose primo is for immunity thats about it. Muscle building with primo is like using anavar. Its not a builder. It makes you look volumized while on the drugs but you dont gain dense tissue off it like test or deca etc. Also you dont build dense tissue on low doses or short cycles.
>>76895081As in Id only use primo if say running two grams of test makes me feels shit, switch one of the grams out for primo. But really should back off the dose then come back and up slower you should be fine with same dose without sides. As in if youve never run test as high as a gram dont bother with primo its wank. Gram of primo is sweet for looking good but in those 10 weeks if you had run the same dose of deca npp or eq eg gram youd have proper dense gains on mass. Primo is more cosmetic drug if that makes sense.
>>76895081What I mean is, dont waste time using primo for building, expose yourself to higher and higher doses of test deca etc and use primo once youve got the tissue to help hold on to it and make you look and feel better etc. As if you get sides back down to dose before you got sides wait 4 to 8 weeks and go back to same dose and you should be ok, if not back down etc until you can keep raising the dose without sides.
>>76893901Try insulin needles. You’ll barely feel it going in.
>>76893227Whats the difference between a /fraud/ & a /tranny/?
>>76895040Lmao imagine lacking self awareness this much. Bro you are an under responder. I have seen dudes get absolutely huge on 250 test and creatine lol
>>76895422i like my 25g now big step up from the 21g. im lean enough to do 1” but still push an extra 1/2” to be positive
>>76895447I’m just giving you a suggestion, you don’t have to listen to me. For me a 29 g 5/8” slin pin is perfect for daily pinning. If you like 25 g then stick with it. I’d still say your best bet for a cycle is gonna be test/tren/mast. You could even run those and kickstart with 4-6 weeks of tbol or adrol if you want
>>76895446Yeah im retarded I forgot im talking show ready 220-240 shredded not everyone cares about being a monster. My bad.
>>76895471got you. You are right about actual bodybuilding, 250 test bro mogs his friends at the gym but would still look stupid on a stage
>>76895467thats the plan, gonna grab some mast tonight but do a week of just tren/test while it ships. i dont like the idea of pinning more than twice a week, yea it keeps things level and less peaks/valleys but i fucking HATE needles
ive been pinning 500 for six weeks now and ive never wanted to fuck a fat piggy of a woman or tranny more than right nowis this fucking normal
>>76895552Yes very. Twinks are next on the menu.
Starting mk-677 + bpc-157 + tb-500
>>76895552its not a meme for no reasoni fucking love plapping
>>76895560mk677 is a shit drug
Sup my nigs, not sure if anyone remembers but I was the dude like a month ago playing Saturn all day and getting mad at my pregnant wife for watching the liberal news while on my test/tren cycle. I got what I believe to be malicious advice of>Increase the trenBut, because I'm protected by the armor of God and because I strive to love not the earthly to the extent that id actively shorten my stay, I took that advice and it's still a light cycle but increased that to 500mg test/250tren hex. I'm honestly doing quite well, I'm still really racist against blacks and women, I'm insanely horny, but my mood is good and for being somewhat mentally unwell off cycle, I actually feel quite sane, tren compliments me. The biggest trick for me has been learning to drink a lot. I generally am not a big drinker, a beer or two at dinner once a week, now I'm drinking mixed drinks, bottles and bottles of Bailey's Irish cream in milk, rum and root beer, whatever, almost nightly and it's really mellowed me out. Now I play my Saturn and fuck a lot. I look awful, I'm so fucking heavy and eat and fart so much I feel like if people besides my wife saw me they'd kill me like Frankenstein's monster but she's fat too right now and gross so whatever. Currently playing>Die Hard Arcade>Battle Garegga>Darius GaidenHope you're all doing well bros, next time I'm gonna get way more tren I like this shit
>>76893227Bros... what the FUCK works for insomnia? I can't sleep taking all of this shit.>is sleep good for you?
>>76895706benadryl stack
>>76895706Mk-677/hgh
>>76895635Only because you have no self control you fat fuggo pigglet
upping my dose like crazy ahaha
>>76895789not a fatty but the way it releases gh is pretty suboptimal compared to something like cjc-1295
>>76895655>Sup my nigs, not sure if anyone remembers but I was the dude like a month ago playing Saturn all dayYes I was the one talking to you about guardian heroes, but I didnt know you were the person I was trolling about increasing the tren dose lmao. Tnat's the final boss of Shining the Holy Ark isn't it? I hear its tough. I'm on 250mg test c taken every other day and bulking. About 7 weeks into a 20 week cycle and already put on 17 pounds lmao. May need to do a mini cut in a month for a week or two. Getting back into Ketsui and Gran Turismo 7 myself. Darius Gaiden is fucking amazing, but try G Darius. Really fun gimmick to it.
>>76895892I like G Darius, I think 2 is my favorite but the Saturn port isn't optimal. GT7 is fucking great. Dude I'm at like a month and a half and I'm up 25lbs, most I've ever weighed, I'm a monster. I'm like 75% or the way I to Holy Ark, I'm also on the final boss of Shining Force 3 scenario 1 but I spent 45 minutes to have him push my shit in so I haven't gone back yet. White pride brother
>>76895706HghEating a shitton of carbsMagnesium glycinate Cardio(sex)
>>76895800well no shit nigger. mk677 is for poorfags, cjc is for retarded niggers
>>76895706For me its THC gummies, melatonin, magnesium glycinate. If all that doesn't work then I do benadryl. But I try not to on account of the dementia thing
Does this look right for 500 mg/week test
friend of mine has plug for tren and asked if i wanted to take some. I said i'd think about it. give it too me straight guys, is it actually worth it?
>>76896544Did you read the reddit wiki? No because if you did you would know that first time users should start on test only. Read the wiki and understand it thoroughly before you jump into this. Otherwise you are going to fuck up your body for marginal gains.
>>76896544Tren is the nuclear option that you really don't want to fuck with unless you're going to dedicate yourself to it for the rest of your life. Which will be much shorter. You get enclomiphene and double your test if you wanted something sustainable that won't permanently shut your nuts down.
>>76896544Lol no. Every horror story about steroids starts with a guy like you who just pins some shit his friend gave him with no plan or understanding of roider endocrinology.
>>76896544Yes but you need to do your research.
Should enclo be taken in evening or morning?
>>76896543Yeah seems average
>>76896614Morning, first thing. That's naturally when your test pulses. Generally you should take anything along with natural pulses for best results. If you take it too late in the day it could mess with your sleep quality.
>>76894053uh ohhttps://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2215025>In a multicenter, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, noninferiority trial, we enrolled 5246 men 45 to 80 years of age who had preexisting or a high risk of cardiovascular disease and who reported symptoms of hypogonadism and had two fasting testosterone levels of less than 300 ng per deciliter. Patients were randomly assigned to receive daily transdermal 1.62% testosterone gel (dose adjusted to maintain testosterone levels between 350 and 750 ng per deciliter) or placebo gel. The primary cardiovascular safety end point was the first occurrence of any component of a composite of death from cardiovascular causes, nonfatal myocardial infarction, or nonfatal stroke, assessed in a time-to-event analysis. A secondary cardiovascular end point was the first occurrence of any component of the composite of death from cardiovascular causes, nonfatal myocardial infarction, nonfatal stroke, or coronary revascularization, assessed in a time-to-event analysis. Noninferiority required an upper limit of less than 1.5 for the 95% confidence interval of the hazard ratio among patients receiving at least one dose of testosterone or placebo.>In men with hypogonadism and preexisting or a high risk of cardiovascular disease, testosterone-replacement therapy was noninferior to placebo with respect to the incidence of major adverse cardiac events.
>>76894575its not the GH, its being over 250 pounds under 6 feet tall and eating a fuckload of food daily tends to make your gut grow. If guys were pinning enough GH to make their organs grow then they would also have freakish jaw growth. even in subjects with acromegaly who have way more circulating igf-1 than even an ifbb pro, organ growth doesn't even show up in all subjects
I'm out of tadalafil and took amino-tadalafil for the first time holy shit this stuff comes on strong I've got a hell of a headrush and my lungs feel like they opened up, and I'm out of breath at the same time, the power of b l o o d f l o w
>>76893957Kek
>>76895706Amitriptylin
>>76893309This but in reverse lmaoThe more test you do on a bulk, the better yout body responds.When you cut you need test to make sure you burn almost all fat and almost no muscle, but more test will just make you switch from 90% fat burning + 10% muscle burning to like 95% fat burning + 5% muscle burning.In other words, of the 10 lbs you'll shed on a cut, it will be either 9.0 lbs or 9.5 lbs of pure fat.
>>76896544I discuss my first tren cycle here if it helps >>76895655
Balding on 0.5mg dutasteride and 260 test bros my time is coming
>>76898184i've only done an oral only tbol cycle 30mgs/day for 7 weeks while on 1.25mgs of fin EOD and i have not lost any hair. i will get on 250 test/week and i will add 0.5dut twice per week, hope i don't have any substantial losses
>>76897389should i boost my 250mg Test E per week back to my base 450mg per week along with newly added 200mg tren E? I don't really want to push it since it's first time with tren.
>>76898481I started with ~500mg test/100mg tren because I heard horror stories but have run test as high as 700 before without issues, idk if it really matters if you're like me you start safe and work your way up
>>76898476Oral only tbol man wtf.I’m going to try 2.5mg dut/day and see what happens. Wasn’t planning on losing ground at 250mg this was supposed to be the starting dose to increase from lol
>>76893227How much stength and muscle gains do you actually keep. Very conflicting information out there.10%, 305, 80%?
>>76898578I've only done light cycles and I space them far out, like 3 months on 6 months off, I generally lose everything off cycle so I just intentionally cut and thin out
>>76898589What's the point of roiding if you keep no gains?
>>76898603It's fun while I have them. If I worked really hard to maintain I could keep a bit of it I'm sure and if I did that and did 3 month swings I'd probably continuously gain but I'm retarded lazy and poor. My favorite part of roiding is it makes me a fuck machine and boosts my confidence
>>76898578The real gains are the friends we made along the way
>>76898578Theoretically you should be able to keep up to maximum natty gains but maintaining even that off roids is extremely difficultIt will give your myonuclei some good memory though
i drank plenty of alcohol yesterday 4 weeks into a cycle what an absolute rookie mistake i feel fucking awful
could someone post the colorful graphic that described and compared a few pct medsit had like red to green bars and stuff on it
>>76898966
>>76899036kek
While we’re doing requests, can I get the “favorite sex position of guys who prefer oral only cycles” meme?
>>76899202Not an oral cycler but I will say I fucking LOVE missionary kissing passionate sex while she leglocks me.
>>76899202They like to do the thing gays do where two dudes run their penises together>>76899243>missionary kissing passionate Bro, my current wife is a bit of a weirdo, not hugely affectionate, loves getting railed by me and we fuck daily which isn't bad as we're both late 30s, but I can kiss her for like ten seconds during sex until she shrinks away, think she just wants to turn her brain off and cum and moan, it's good and all but I've always liked having my tongue down a girl's throat when I can feel her mouth and pussy tense up at the same time as she gets off
>>76899202
>>76899517Thanks, been looking for this
I take sarms and have 19 inch arms
>>76899420I was trying to reply to you earlier but I was in the movie theatre with my gf. GOD I NEED TO COOM.
Is it a bad idea to mix test-undecanoate with cypionate? I am currently blasting 250 test-u and 250 test-c same syringe same site. Been feeling fine for a few weeks.Why? One of the countries I go to lets you buy Nebido (test-u) over the counter. So I bought a bunch. I'd like to not toss the vials.
>>76900110fuck you mean same syringe nigga you gonna die
>>76900121Haha, i just draw the two types of test in to the plunger and inject the two types i to the same site. I don't reuse.
>>76899036jej>>76899086thank you
>>76898603You can keep them by blasting and cruising. Only pct niggers lose their gains
>>76899751I take tren and have a 19 inch cock
does a gay person who takes tren temporarily turn straight?
> started a test cycle for the first time in 10 years> couple of days after my first glute pin developed a hot, sore, hard ass> feverish and shaky> haven't been able to lift all weekWhat a joke. Did all sterile processes as well, will probably have to go the hospital but kind of embarrassing to say I was pinning Test, especially when i've hardly got any gear gains yet.
>>76900989>glute pintbf it's your fault
>>76900989I've literally never used the little alcohol wipes my clinic sends, I fill my needles up the night before and leave them on the counter where my wife's retarded filthy cats swat them around and I end up finding them on the floor, I've never once had an issue, I routinely realize I didn't depress the plunger all the way and will re inject myself with the same needles, you need to immune system max and detox from the vax
I have recently done a few months of 300 mg per week of test e split into 3 doses. the gains were nice and mired. i have mild E2 sides so i bought some pharma pajeet primo amps in order to lower E2 without having to take and AI (i dont want to on these baby dosages)My plan is to drop to test to 200mg per week, split into Sunday and Wednesday, and primo at 100mg per week, split into Monday and Thursday. I know that primo's half life is slightly longer than test (both are enanthate), so i am not worried about fluctuations there. but should i be worried about the test fluctuations with twice weekly test e pins?My alternative consideration is keeping the primo regiment as mentioned above, while dosing @75mg Sun-Tue-Thu. this will put me at 225:100 test to primo. i ideally want to keep the ratio at 2:1, but is that 12.5% change really that much of a difference?For the record this is my "TRT+" regiment for a cut, will blast this summer, i am about 15% right now.
>>76901090Honestly I'm fucking tired reading this mid workout and if I'm understanding correctly part of what you're asking is if 2x weekly injections is on for test, I personally don't think so, I do every 3 days which isn't a big difference but I feel less weird doing that than every 3.5 and it lets me pin in the mornings exclusively which is my preference. I've done every 2 days as well on cycle, but I think for normal doses like the 200mg "trt+" type regimen 3 day pins are the sweet spot protip AI can do the gay math for you just ask it how to hit whatever dose a week if pinning every third day
>>76901090I’d up the dose to 500 test 300 primo or at least 400/200. If you insist on keeping baby doses idk what to tell you because lowering your test is going to negate the need for primo in the first place. Btw, primo is very mild and really isn’t a 1:1 replacement for test anyway but on the plus side, it won’t affect bloods at all. It’s also impossible to know how (ir if) it will affect your e2 until you run it so you will need to experiment with it to figure that out.
>>76901090Forgot to add that daily pins might also fix your e2 problem by themself. I would not reduce frequency to less than 3x a week but you do you buddy
>>76901075Yeah i think it's just shit luck. I do subcut injections for something else and half the time just use these clinical water wipes and i'm fine. Going to give it one more day but I can barely sit down and don't want it to get out of hand.
>>76901090How the fuck is this dumbass idea easier than popping 6.25mg of aromasin with each pin?Before adding more anabolics and variables on a fucking TRT phase
>>76901158AI's are fucking retarded when it comes to roiding, they regurgitate stupidity that is even more nonsensical than reddit. I use steroidplotter just to make sure that peaks and troughs aren't too spaced apart (the difference thereof between 2x and 3x being somewhat negligeable). I like to pin before bed because the esters are long and i train first thing in the morning.I think i might just do Test E @75mg Sun-Tue-Thu. totaling 225mg/week, and Primo E @50mg Mon-Fri. its roughly 2:1 ratio which is what im after.
>>76901218I'm not talking about having it giving you roiding advice bro I'm talking about having it do retard math like what's e3d equivalent of weekly x mg, it can do that easy as shit and saves you frustration if you hate math like I do. I had to figure it out with the formula like 5 times before realizing the robot could just do it
>>76901197I want to cap the weekly dose at around 300mg because this is my "cruise" dose, which i will be following during my cut, after the cut i will transition into a full blast, then probably back to this regiment (if successful).>>76901201Yea as i commented to another anon on>>76901218 its a good idea.>>76901213Because i would wager to say that primo is less deleterious than Aromasin\Arimidex.>>76901229I just use Steroidplotter or a literal calculator.
Might do a second run of DNPOnly thing holding me back is the extreme nausea that sets in immediately after ingesting for like half an hour. 2 weeks of agonizing nausea that has you immobilized on the bed. Worth it though
>>76901229Honestly, I can do the math easy and I’m not making fun of you for not being able to… but I have also asked grok and gpt to do the math on that kinda stuff so many times and it Regularly fucks it up badly. You should definitely pull out some paper and calculate it yourself EOD injections make for easy math because it’s 3.5 injections a week, so 100mg x 3.5 is 350mg a weekEvery 3 days is a bit of a cunt, but it’s 2.33 injections a week, so if you wanted to do 500mg a week but with e3d injection… 500mg/2.33 is 214.5mg per injection, if you have 250mg/ml, it’s 214.5/250 =0.858ml Im just saying don’t trust aiWhat I have found ai good for is to look at your bloodwork from the lab, it can pick out little connections between different readings, and tell you if certain out of range things might be affected by other things. Stuff that doctors know, but don’t have the time or effort to bother to tell you
>>76901239Why would you run DNP when you can run a glp-1 with HGH+Test? im a newbie to roiding but this is fucking retarded
>>76901239Idiot. When Reta, hgh and dieting exists, why the fuck would you touch dnp
>>76901246Fair bro, I'll have to look at your equations when my brains less fried, got like 4 hours of sleep but am still pushing a full body day with cardio, fucking eyes twitch when I try to read that shit I'm so tired
>>76901237> Because i would wager to say that primo is less deleterious than Aromasin\ArimidexArimidex and aromasin are very different, I specifically said aromasin.Arimidex and primo will both be worse for you than primo, primo hits lipids and hair too, and you’re also negating the point of your cruise, which is to cruise. But you know that because your test dose is already double what you need
>>76894062kind of cool they named that fridge after the best mortal kombat character of all time
My wife said it’s her or the roids, looks like I’ll be back on the market soon. 30 and no kids. Thank god I didn’t get her pregnant. Not like I could have done that anyway without HCG. It’s so crazy to see these posts of guys with partners who are ok with them juicing, mine has been demanding I quit for over a year. You don’t know how lucky you are.
>>76901282Lmao why the fuck does she even know? My wife thinks I do trt and doesn't notice the other 20 vials stacked up in my cabinet, if she knew she'd lose her shit but women are for sex not for knowing shit
>>76894575>>76894581this. you'd need to be pinning 12+ iu daily for over a year to start seeing growth like that. 20 is more certain to see >>76896795
>>76895892i miiiiight have also told him to increase the tren. lol
>>76901310same. trt, and through a clinic with a scrip. ignore the kilo of raws, please...
>>76901252>>76901255 Why would I take objectively worse compounds? DNP fearmongering is over non-gym people with EDs who overdosed on it years ago. I'm not going to stop gear just because some retard blasted 5 grams of gear and had a heart attack, why would I not use DNP just because some morons took 10 times the recommended dose?
>>76901425I order Cialis and all sorts of shit and she has no clue, she just thinks sometimes I want to fuck like an animal or when I'm roiding that I'm grumpy but I just tell her it's her fault and that she's crazy and I'm the same as alwaysLiberal media has been telling whores they're insane since birth, lean into it at use it bros
>>76898620>>76899420>>76900010>>76901310>>76901507Found the faggot autoandrophiliacs in the thread.Come out of the closet already and just fuck men, you faggot niggers.
I like the way gear makes me feel like a sexual tyrannosaurus and muscular.
>>76901537I'm 4 of those (you)'s
>>76900989I'm having a similar issue, crazy painful and swollen. In my case I think it's because all I could get was 450/ml test which is notorious for PIP.
Is there anything else effective that I can take in addition to enclomiphene to boost my test? I'm thinking of adding in Sermorelin in the new year, Tesa when it becomes more broadly available. I only really trust the US pharmacy compounded stuff which is why I'm not getting random "research only" stuff.
>>76901826Lmao just inject it into your ass like the rest of us bro, stop being a little bitch. I say that because I'm a Christian and can sense that you're white and I want to help you. Do you know how much mental fortitude it takes to stick a needle in your own ass full of chemicals and press that plunger? It's not something anyone can just do, it's part and parcel of being a member of the mental and spiritual elite. Come, join us in greatness
>>76901870Thank you fellow white man. I'm not afraid of needles, I just don't want my nuts to stop working yet. Maybe when I'm like 40 or 50 I will start TRT. Just wondering if there was other stuff out there people were using with success.
When do you niggers start HCG on a cycle? Second week?
>>76901885What's the concern about your nuts, trying to have a kid? I did 200+mg of test for 5 years straight, hopped on HCG for a few months and got my wife pregnant lmao, anyways if you decide you want to make it work you probably could do more to fix whatever trucks up than you could ever do to make orals and halfway measures work. enclomiphene is fucking poison too
>>76901885Anyone can have kids with test lmao. Sure if you are lazy and just whack loads of test and nothing else you can get into trouble but everyone does HCG these days.
>>76901903>everyone does HCG these days.I feel worse on HCG personally, but I used it to get a chick pregnant >>76901897 (me)I know dudes who run HCG permanently with their lifetime trt protocol and I don't see the appeal. My balls are small? I can't get a chick pregnant if I cheat? Lmao oh no
>>76901908Tiny roid balls are more disgusting than just not being jacked imo
>>76901239Why not run BAM15?>>76901252>>76901255Retards
>>76901922Only turbo whore spics and niggers give a single fuck about your balls bro
>>76901897No not really, I guess I just don't want to take the full plunge yet. I feel like dependence on a drug like that isn't as safe given the current conditions. All it takes is some dumbfuck politician getting it in their head that lifting weights is right wing and banning TRT.>>76901903From what I understand it's still possible but fertility is lowered. Makes sense just addressing it with HCG though.
>>76901239based retardI stopped being interested in dnp when I wasn't able to find a good source and also when I realized I don't wanna kill myself
>>76901929Literally any sane girl would care about weird peanut balls. But more importantly i care, im not lying when I say I'd rather be a complete 70kg dyel over having shrunken balls. Fortunately hcg exists.
>>76895706seroquel. probably shouldnt take that unless youre schizophrenic though
>>76896656i thought it was best to take it before bed since your natural test level rises during the night and peaks in the morning?
Nothing like the 4th week of your cycle when you see a whole shit lot of progress
>>76900989i went nuts and got handcuffed to an ER bed, the cop in there knew more about gear than the doctor it was hilarious. talked to him about EQ vs mast. i of course, told him mast was superior in all ways. he didnt disagree kek
>>76902042The drug isn't instant, so if you took your first dose for example, your test levels would be peak at the next morning. I'm not sure it matters a ton as I've never tried it. You could try before bed and report back, but morning is the most recommended time.
>>76901885I got a bitch preggo running over a gram of tren and your scared of lmao test
>>76902050Lmao are you fucking black and you have a nose ring? Dude, as a Christian, I'm going to be nice to you and give you great advice, find another site, there are sites where pasty little faggot whites will worship your chimp ass. Why not go there. It's win win, win for me because I don't see "people" like you and win for you because you get your digital nigger cock sucked by dudes who would roll over and piss themselves to death while you raped their wives it you ever broke into their homes
>>76902050is the "progress" in the room with us?
>>76902161>>76902213that's F1 driver lewis hamilton
>>76902241Lmao I'm not going to pretend like I know the name of famous trained chimps bro, maybe you shouldn't be posting that shit
>>76902251shut the fuck up, moron
>>76902301>If you don't know literally every highly paid circus monkey paid by our governments to demoralize us and further our genocide then you're heckin stupid! Wew
Can we get back to tren posting?I want to fuck a passing tranny so bad and squeeze her feminine balls while plapping her until she has a sissygasm.
What are the odds the dude talking about wanting to fuck dudes is the same guy that's posting pictures of blacks?
>>76902435probably pretty high. he probably doesnt even lift and has reddit open in another tab
Can someone please help with this?
>>76902450See >>76900124>>76900110
>>76902435It wasn't me posting niggers sorry.
>>76900989>GlutesYou shoulda been a Chad and pinned the quads
>>76902454from a pharmacological standpoint, do your own research. but from a pinning standpoint there is a max amount of liquid you want to put into one area
>>76902806>from a pinning standpoint there is a max amount of liquid you want to put into one areaAnd what might that be? I'm using these big needles I found on Amazon and fill it to the 3-3.5, idk what they are like microgrammuals or some shit some measure of numbers and liquid I guess
>>76902816most likely 1ml aka 1cc. most muscles are up to 2ml i think the reddit steroid wiki lists each one
>>76901939>All it takes is some dumbfuck politician getting it in their head that lifting weights is right wing and banning TRT.lol, wait till you actually touch grass and realize shit loads of police, and basically half the dudes in the gym are running test and loads of other shit. Enclo doesn't do shit, it barely made any difference in the four people I know who took it, the moment they stopped they lost whatever minuscule amount of muscle they put on.Steroids are not birth control, the amount of guys I know who run a cycle or two, then immediately get some dumb hoe preggo because they're finally getting regular pussy is in the double digits. I don't know a single long term roider who doesn't have kid either.>>76902435It's just natty shit posting. The memes around tren are retarded>muh turns you gayIt just make you hungry and you sleep less. Absolutely crazy stuff. I swear most of the side effects for steroids are greatly exaggerated.
>>76902819IDK I am on week 1 of Tren and I already had sex with 4 trannies. Since 9 days ago.
>>76902825Congratulations, you were a faggot before and after. More likely you're larping, but I'll call you a faggot anyway.
>>76902827Nothing gay about wanting to plow feminine women.
cat just sharted all over my floorshould i go fuck the first tranny i find?pinning 250 tren btw
>>76902971Double that dose big J.
>>76902977wdhmbt
>>76902819It doubled my free and total testosterone levels. The idea that you instantly lose your gains if your test returns to normal is retarded. You still have to go to the gym to maintain results no matter what, unless your cycle is anabolic. Which it wouldn't be on enclo to begin with, ie you need to work to get results.I just don't want to shut down my nuts. Reduced fertility doesn't mean no fertility and like guys mentioned many just take HCG. If you're already on a cycle then guess there's no downside to taking more shit.
>>76893242No
I know nothing about anabolics other than there are side effects and they can be dangerous. I am in the process of getting into working out for the first time in my life with any sort of regularity. a coworker/friend and I are joining the gym together and we ended up having a discussion about steroid use.I said I'd take them to establish some sort of baseline right off the bat and work from there to improve myself. I imagine after doing some research that's not a reasonable thing to do as from what I can tell your tendons and shit don't gain any benefit so if I was still a super out of shape retard, overworking myself would just cause an injury faster.Would that be correct? would there be any point in taking steroids before hitting a natty limit or while building to one?
>>76903154The risk is where you take a shit ton and start stacking plates on your exercises and pushing through pain. Basically extreme ego lifting. A 2 plate bench won't snap your tendons, nor 2 plates on squat or 3 plates on deadlift. Can increase the leg lifts by 1 plate if your knees and back aren't fucked up at all. Basically you can get to those weights pretty safely as fast as you want but after there you should slow your roll. BPC-157 and TB-500 can help mitigate some of the risk.If your cycle isn't too aggressive you'll make solid gains and give your tendons time to adapt. Just understand that once you start to feel pain that if you push through it you're likely to injure yourself and it can take weeks to months to heal depending on how long you pushed through it.
why pancakes don't make me bloated on cycle?
>>76902362Desperately trying to save face after your larp ran out of steam, pathetic.Imagine talking to an image and making so much of a fool of yourselfLmao it can't hear you bro it's a picture of an f1 driverAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>I know this guy who knows a guy who got a girl pregnant while on 2 million grams of test and tren bro!Yeah, no he didn't, and all the other stories are complete bullshit as well.Gear makes you sterile, no ifs ands or buts. Anything else is hearsay garbage from roided out androphilic gooners who want to larp out their breeding fetishes by pretending they are more potent than the drugs they are injecting.
>>76903456>raiding fraud threads because your inner self knows that you don't make any progress compared to a roider
>>76903459Not that guy (I am that guy) but it's pretty pathetic hearing all these niggers taking anabolic steroids that are literally designed for muscle growth and all they can talk about is how their dick magically got bigger or hcg made their balls bigger or how much they need to fuck or get their wife pregnant. Like shut you fucking faggot, you were low t before you took gear and now you have a fetish.If roids alter your personality or sex drive significantly it means you were an inferior man to begin with.
>>76903504roids shot my degeneracy from 80% to 90%, i still wont goon to gay shit (idk how people even like Futa) but i do be cranking it more often if i get a whiff of a girls perfume my brain goes into feral mode
>>76895040>>76895081>>76895446>>76895479So if I want to mog friends at the gym but look like a "fake natty", and I've got 1g of Primo, 1g of Deca, and 3g of Test-e, should I just pin them all divided through 10 weeks? Like 300 test + 100 primo + 100 deca, instead of doing test+deca first and test+primo later until I run out of them all?
>>76903671With your level of understanding you should honestly throw those vials away and spend a year reading about it instead
>>76903704>gatekeeping gear>demoralizationYou must be a nigger. Or worse, a jew.
>>76893227how do i get started on getting this irl?
Thoughts on my next cycle?Test e 500mg pwNPP 400mg pwDbol 30mg pd first 4 weeks12 weeks totalI'm guessing it will turn me into a boatload but I'll have AI and caber on hand anyway, the hope is that I'll put on enough muscle to justify it.Previous cycle was 500mg test e for 12 weeks then 350mg test e for another 12 on a cut
>>76903709Go up to the biggest guy in your gym and say you want what he's got going
>>76893227Guys I'm a hyper-responder to testosteroneMy T levels were 1000+ on only 100mg a week I went off because the acne was too badWhat should I do next cycle? I have lots of leftover test and dbol
>>76895655> Tren hexDios mio your poor liver.
>>76903765Dios mios yourself essay
>>76903708actually, you are the "nigger" in this situation (stupid)nta but the guy was literally telling you that your previous message demonstrated your severe lack of knowledge and that if you don't want to accidentally harm/delete yourself, you need to take the time to do your homework
>>76904011Not that guy but he was definitely being a gatekeeping nigger. He should keep his dumb bitch mouth shut and not lecture others unless he can justify bnc year round because he's gotten his pro card or a six figure income from instagram.
>>76903865Not that guy, but this is just an answer cobbled together in the shittiest way possible by AI bots combing the internet. You should feel bad for proffering this as evidence of anything.
>>76904022I didn't think so but since you made me laugh I will take your word for itmost of us had to learn about this shit the hard way might as well let others do the same
>>76903760I'd do test and dbol
>>76900110>gonna speedrun my adrenal shut down because I got a deal on test-ujesus fucking christ
>>76904011>harm/delete yourself>>76895095>Low nothing triples nothingWhich one is it, nigger? How would I kms with such a tame cycle?Inb4>doses too low can also kill you because... reasonsStop being a nigger and give me actual advice.
>>76904023>Nooo you can't just have robots comb the Internet to find a consensus on the safety and efficacy of a product if it's answer is different than something I personally believe with no backing evidence! Lmao
>>76904060at this point you have been such an agitator that any advice you get in this thread may be with ill intentyou might as well stop chimping out and do some actual researchif that is too much to ask then just go full guinea pig and hope for the bestyou are calling people "nigger" then expecting them to give you legitimate helpful advice?
>just give up and come back next year>I hope you kysI mean, (you) are obviously incapable of giving decent advice to anyone, but maybe decent anons here still might>ill intentThat's just you projecting
>>76901090Save the primo for blast. Take your 200mg TRT with insulin needles to the belly. Inject every day. Probably won't even need AI. This is what I do its no more or less annoying than brushing teeth.
any comprehensive resource/guide on clen?if someone would know it'd be this thread
>>76903760we dont talk about A in the thread because it will attract cyctic a nigger
Do you guys get sore muscles from pinning everyday? Even doing once a week I usually feel like I pulled something for a day or two after.
test
>>76904089arguing with another man on the internet is pointless. simply depict him as a basedjack and move on
>>76904150we are in fact back
>>76904161so truei restarted lifting after 1 year hiatus (depression)i started to roid after 3 sessions lol and it seems to have cured my depressionanyone else share something similar?
>>76904164for me it was mainly the gay sexual fantasies with the weird gay receptionist (he has long girl nails)
>>76904164Test 1000% improved my mental. Went from an anxiety ridden autistic fuck to a confident chad who looks great. I feel like I did in college; just a huge ego with the body and stamina to back it up.
>>76904158Ok, you're right. Meanwhile, other than "give up", what do you think I should do with the gear I havez other than ( >>76894622 )? I could grab a bit more of Test-E if needed.I don't care about getting big, I've done a 500 mg Test-e cycle once and I just want to push past my natty limit a bit more.
>>76904167YES SAMEi had so much problem and no doctor were able to help mei figured its because my test was too low and since i started pinning everything has fixed itselfim so glad i didnt listen to their bullshit (they didnt even want to check my hormones level)
>>76904167I used test to brute force my way from divorce #1 to marriage #2. When I was going on dates as shit was finalizing I couldn't keep my eyes open past 6pm, was so fucking tired, not sleeping well, angry, test made me an alpha male and helped me bag a chick who I'm very happy with. I can't believe the sex life I have now, makes divorce seem like the best thing that ever happened to me even if it ruined me financially and had me living in my parents basement for 2 years
>>76904212same here, but it was actually with my first wife and test helped me realised how unhappy i was with a woman, i am with a fit husband now, we both take roid and we share a onlyfan , we dont intend to ever have kids (not like we can and adoption is cuck). seriously, you wouldnt believe all the sex i had over the boat cruise, i wish i never had my wife and 3 kids but w/e, sometime we gotta accept what we are and i feel test force the real you out so much
>>76904197My jewish bitch doctor said my levels were low but within threshold so I didn’t need TRT but put me on 30 different medications which didn’t work. Now I feel amazing.>>76904212God bless
test made absolutely no difference for me mentally. Maybe some tiny decrease to my threshold of what causes me frustration and slight increase in disagreeableness but its hardly noticeable. I can imagine it would do a lot if I was taking a gram though.
>>76904230why are doctors like this?they dont give 2 shit about male health and well being but if you were a woman they would push all the cure and remedies at you (tax payer expenses)
>>76904147Mine turned into itchy spider bites at first and then that seemed to stop. If you are going to pin every day go subq unless you are really taking a bodybuilder cycle you should be able to easily.
>>76903760>My T levels were 1000+ on only 100mg a weekhow long after pinning how much did you test?I would normal call someone a hyper responder based on how they look rather than serum levels. Some fags can have monster test levels and not respond well. Some fags get bowling ball shoulders at 1100 ng/dl
What can I take alongside test to reduce the chance of losing my baby face? I'm 44 but I still get late teen to early 20s pussy occasionally. Pls no meme answers. I have heard low dose deca for big increase to collagen gains but someone said it doesn't boost the right type of collagen to safeguard your face.
>>76904306>t. 36 year old who looks 17
>>76904278No, you're thinking of trannies. Women who come in to doctors wanting the pill or trying to get a diagnosis for an autoimmune issue get interrogated at best and written off as hysterical bitches at worst.
>>76904306tretinoin and NAC. GH also helps. You can get even more exotic and there are things which help in theory but I doubt any of them are a silver bullet. Once you start to notice that every fucking roider has nasolabial folds it is pretty sad. Thats one of the things keeping me on low doses I don't want that look. You know the look. Roid face
>>76904344Why the fuck does this happen? Is it just the combination of being lean and old? Its like testosterone specifically wants to give you those folds. His eye area is probably less wrinked than average fro his age.
>>76904370there was a video somewhere about a guy saying its basically body fat and water retention. basically just because a skinny DYEL is 10% body fat and a monster IFBB pro is 10% body fat, that 10% is relative to lean mass. so the IFBB pro has more fat, and since the skull doesnt really have much muscle to offset it that look is the end result. but facial muscle hypertrophy and glycogen retention also add to it 100%
>>76904294I tested about 2-3 weeks after my last pin I had to take AI to control the acne, bloating, pelvic pressureFat wasn't coming off and my balls were shut downCouldnt take hcg without shit tons of acneI had to take arimidex 2-3x a week on just 100mg a week cause my e2 sides were so badI don't respond to aromasin. It fact it seems to make my acne worse not better.
>>76904344>tretinoin and NACI'm guessing I can't just walk into a pharmacy/beauty shop and buy this off the shelf?
>>76904465nac you can. tretinoin in prescrption. You can just get some 1% retinol cream OTC and get used to using that every day before you make the jump to the prescription version.
>>76904511you can buy tret off ebay and amazon now
>>76904465adapalene is an over the counter retinoid. same mechanism of action as tretinoin but not prescription. any retinoid is going to dry your skin and make you sensitive to sun damage, so moisturizer and sunscreen is a must. You will probably want to start slow>>76904532I wouldn't trust ebay/amazon tretinoin. It's super cheap to see any of the virtual dermatology services and get a legit script.
If your son was taking testosterone he bought on the internet w out a prescription, without telling yoh anything about it at all, would you be mad?
>>76904588>sonwe are having daughters bro. all of us
>>76904588Why would I be honestly, it takes brass balls to take a risk like thatHe realized that life is a game and you play games to win
>>76904588no but im a big advocate for harm reduction so id make sure he was doing all of it correctly like his old man
>>76904603This, I'm not raising a fucking pussy
How many gainz can I expect from 200mg test if I have been lifting for 10 years? It's hard to keep the fat away after I hit 37.
>>76904707Lol none.
goodness! apparently if you don't buy the cheapest shit you can find, pinning is much easier! got a scrip to calm my wife in the event i end up in the hospital, and the doc hooked me up with a whole system. and this pharma stuff? maaaan.... drew in seconds with 21g! i'm so used to my homebrew sludge that takes me a solid minute or more to draw with 31g. livin the dream
>>76904778>21g easier to draw than 31gSTOP THE PRESSES
>>76904795i know! mind blowing!
>>76904778kek. I don't think GSO can fit through a 31g and pretty sure MCT, if it does would take 6ever.
>climb a lot>get sprained fingers, swollen ligaments etcshould I get bpc-157?
How do the police not shut down the roid sitee
>>76904045Not op, but why would this happen?
>>76904885pharma is gso. home is cheap mct. i need to buy the whatever grade one next time. this one's just some filtered thing, not lab grade. got some jelly lookin floater in it once. weird. just drew around it lul. lesson learned
>>76904885>>76905523and,yes, mct with 31g takes forever. even if i heat it first
Do i have to do bloodwork? Can i just go by feel and side effects?
>>76905591It's not perfect but yeah you could if you know what to look for. Probably not for your first blast.>t. Not doing bloodwork
>>76893347If you hate pinning, you're doing it wrong.
>>76905599So maybe do it once after 8 or 16 weeks and if i'm all good than i'm safe? I dont know what to look for besides puffy nips and taking arimadex if need be?
>>76905613blood pressure, estrogen symptoms (low/high) are the big ones if u arent blasting 750mg+
>>76905607I just don't like stabbing myself with needles, sue me.
>>76905683You'll get used to it. Right now I pin about 17x a week, GH, GLOW, test. Ain't nuttin but a peanut.
>>76905711Jesus... maybe I should go natty...
>>76904370that's extra skin from HGH, these fags blast 15+ ius daily for years. Add tren/mast and orals, recipe for aging skin.
>>76905711I do, uh… hold on… 8 pins a day right now I think. Cruise dose of oils, mots-c, KLOW plus extra bpc/tb, gh, DSIP, PM blend (inj. melatonin plus some other shit), AM blend (B vitamins, albuterol, l-carn), pump blend (pwo only), tirz and cagri. Maybe more like 10 pins a day.
>>76905302it's not going to hurt, except for the wallet
>>76905944Redpill me on DSIP.
>>76904265Being more frustrated and disagreeable is from estrogen conversion. Testosterone gives confidence and calmness.
>>76906183So tren doesn't increase rage
>>76904167Same with me but with nandrolone. Test changed absolutely nothing for me mentally, felt exactly the same even on close to a gram. Low test and high nandrolone and I feel like a god. >>76896543What is the point of this? Why do people check their test levels on blast? If you don't trust your source just have a vial tested. "Wiaow, I injected a bunch of testosterone and my testosterone levels are high!" cool, but completely irrelevant. It just seems like pageantry for people trying to pretend they're being responsible drug addicts by amassing completely unactionable and irrelevant information.
>>76906420Don't know about different compounds.
Anyone know if high test concentrations are actually harmful as opposed to just sore. Running a cycle right now with 400mg/ml and every injection site cripples me. I can probably live with it but don't want to if it's more than just pain.
>>76906856Takes used to that concentration in muscle/area you inject. Will get better within one shot or two then it wont react. Think it has more solvents/ba bb in it but yeah otherway is to cut it in half with another weaker steroid and pin it that way.
>>76904370Those guys all use cpap machines to breathe while they sleep hence the marks on the face exactly where the mask sits.
>>76904060I said using primo at such low dose with low dose test is pointless...its triple nothing aka garbage use of drugs.
anyone take beta blockers? im on propranolol and its given me fatigue like no other. i do some light exercise not even a 50% effort workout and start yawning and can literally take a nap, wtf is going on?
>>76907172But what is the process of getting used to it? I just don't want it turn out you're basically fucking up a muscle.
>>76907231i thought i recalled the reason higher concentration gear hurting more is theres literal crystal shards floating around in the oil and those little shards cut up your tissue when you pin it
>>76907224Yes but I am sleepmaxxing, so I take 80mg four times a day with 1mg Xanax twice a day. I sleep about 18 hours but feel amazing the rest. It's just a blast and cruise though so I'll be tapering down in a week (mostly because i was too sleep to arrange more supply)
>>76905302Rest
>>76905974Heavily studied (human trials) peptide that actually does what they say it does. Improved sleep and circadian rhythm with the added benefit of lowering BP through a completely different mechanism from usual BP meds. Microdosing it is currently popular (~500 mcg daily) but I run it at 1.5 mg/day for ten days and then take a couple weeks off (this is the usual dose for human trials). Clinical evidence suggests that it has a lasting effect and doesn’t need to be dosed daily for the full benefits
>>76906537Yeah, why would anyone want to know that their drugs are what they’re labeled as and properly dosed?
>>76907224If you can, switch to nebivolol. It is a newer gen beta blocker and highly selective for cardiac tissue. I take 2.5-7.5 mg on heavier cycles and have no sides at all.
Injected test e 250mg for the first time monday morning. The injection itself went fine, thigh felt slightly sore for some time, but started to hurt in the evening. No marks or bumps whatsoever. Had trouble walking normally with my left leg today at work, and at one point at work I felt dizzy and fainted. Happened very fast and feeling fully normal now, but my leg still hurts. Did I fuck this up or is it a normal reaction ? I don't think fainting is a normal reaction, but it happened two years ago as well , did a blood check, everything was normal. Low blood pressure probably, but my diet is fine
>>76907406It's just the seroconversion to heterosexual. Had you just fucked your boyfriend before fainting? You'll struggle with that in future.
How do I learn how to pin properly?how to go subcutaneous, how intramuscular, how does the amount fat on my body affect this and what about different muscles?or should I just try to find a nurse/doctor learning book that talks about this and read it?yes I am autistic
>>76907441I swim in pussy, nigger, I just want to know if there is a correlation between test e injection and changes in blood or fainting/feeling feverish because of it
>>76907469Real kings go intrathecal but you probably aren't ready for that red pill.
>>76907235Yeah just looked it up and it's that and the solvents. Seems like if it goes on it can cause lasting harm. The UK just doesn't have much test as far as i can get now, 400mg was all going.
I bought some fucking deca and now I am getting too scared of pinning it because reddit keeps saying it will remodel my heart and kill my dick and make me depressed. I was just gonna use 100mg/week in combination with 200mg test a week trt to hopefully help my fucked up shoulder stop bothering me and increase my gains a little bit.
>>76907620how is deca supposed to help your shoulder?
>>76907632they say it helps with joint pain
>>76907638Hard to have shoulder pain when you're no longer in existence post cardiac
>>76907656
>>76907638who says thatand think through about the mechanism of action
>>76907668increased collagen synthasis and increase in intera joint fluid retention. like literally everyone says this bro its not like a weird thing
>>76907620nigger, only boomers use deca for joints because their dick don't work either way. You supposed to use hgh.
Where should i start with the drugs?
>>76907880step 1 take pictures of your balls with pennies on them for size reference later
>>76907889dont i take drugs to keep my balls working? Is enclomiphine good?
>>76907880Coke/tren blend. Rings only workout routine.
Ok final call: Test+Tren cycle need mast/dbol/tbol, my two sources are offline for a week or more so I am looking to order tonight. I am on bulk so not leaning towards mast.
>>76907954>mast can't be used on a bulkwhere do you got this shit from lmao
>>76907995point to the exact spot in his post where he said that, you strawmanning kike
>>76893227Wow, single dose. Didnt know they did that. Cool.>qtdttotq: What would be the reason for that, one dose vials like that?
>>76908031Skimping on cost and not including preservatives
>>76908107Not sure what you mean. Seems it would cost more for more bottles and labels, etc. What is the preservative comment all about? I am on TRT and use 10ml vials 250mg/ml.
>>76907300Anon... You can have the actual oil tested. For about the same cost and most sources give credit for doing so. And blood serum levels won't tell you how it's dosed, individual metabolism varies so much.
>>76908126>What is the preservative comment all about?I believe preservatives are a type of jam or jelly, frankly I don't know the differences between the two but these jams and jellies are put inside of things to preserve them, like if you had an old chest made of wood, the finest mahogany, you could in fact cover it in this sticky concoction to make sure that it never loses it's majestic luster
>tfw when the prior authorization goes throughfree 200mg cruise secured for the rest of my life boyz
>>76908131Do niggas really test their shit? I've been putting weird china shit in my ass for years now and I've never given a single fuck about it, if I feel off I just take more, works every time
>>76907680Boldenone increases collagen synthesis even more than nandrolone. And nandrolone cardiac remodeling is a meme at low doses.
>>76908126Idk man it was just a guess
>>76908143>>76908171My question was really, how much preservative could possible be in a 10ml bottle with 250mg/ml of Test C. No worries! I will inject anyway! I just got Tren Ace as well that I will run for 12 weeks...though that may be too long.
>>76908229Why too long? I'm gonna do 3-4 months of tren hex, and idk what I'm doing I just bought it on a whim so if there's reason not to let me know and I'll consider it
AAAH THIS PIP IS KILLING ME, I LITERALLY CAN'T SIT DOWN.Do i tell people i've been getting ass fucked or admit to frauding???
>>76907177i bet you're one of those people who swear women who fuck a lot have a worn out loose vagina
>>76908380No women have loose vaginas because they inherit it from their slag mothers who fucked a lot
>>76907535all the real niggas know intracavernosal is where it's at
>>76908146congrats, and fuck you
>>76908238often people start to lose their fucking shit around eight to ten weeks. not everybody though. i'm sure your relationships will survive your constant emotional abuse, and outbursts of rage
>>76908398aw shit! cant argue with genetics. it is genetical, after all, and that's fuckin SCIENCE
>>76908421I'm unironically doing better than ever on tren, I think it's because I'm doing 2:1 test to tren and whenever I up test I feel excellent
Anyone UK rate Atlas? My usual source has had nothing for months.
> literally just started cycle> excited to lift hard with clean eating> wife has surprise upcoming death in her family and wants me to spend weeks at bedside vigil with her abroad with no gym availableShe got major pissed when I proposed I join for a week. Am i being a dick?
>>76908441find a local gym or just delay the next pins? depending how far along into it you are probably wont lose anything
>>76908455I mean 3 weeks off is just ending the cycle and I've been there before, nearest gym is some shitty garage 40 minutes drive away. I wonder if this is a situation in which I say yeah upfront and then just come up with a reason to bail a week in.
>>76908441Would the dead family member really want their relative getting pounded on the reg by a weak little bitch? We both know the answer. Find a way to lift, the spirits would have wanted it this way
>>76908423nice! how long you been in it so far? i have read people taking it for a year+. just... not something i can do :/
>>76908472ehh is the fight worth it? idk how close she was to that family member but sometimes some battles are worth the loss to win the warthat being said if my gf asked me to stop roids i would not
>>76908536I think I'm about two months in, I never keep track of shit I just do stuff as long as I feel like it but my mood is fine I've been doing well with my wife and my job which j fucking hate
>>76907248FUCK
>>76908423Just Test/Tren? No AI/etc?
>>76908651I take an AI when I feel like it, usually a quarter of anastrazole. What else if anything should I take? I'm on trt so I just blast and cruise, not worried about shit to make my shit restart kind of stuff, but if there's something I should know I'd be happy to hear it brother, because I am basically retarded and am just winging it
>>76908633hah! well, ride that high horse! i'm jelly
>>76908131I have jano tested probably a couple dozen different vials over the years. But that takes months and costs a couple hundred bucks with shipping. Serum test is cheap, quick and effective for IDing test and suggestive for other compounds. If my primo is keeping me nice and dry but e2 still comes back high it’s probably mast. If total estrogen is like 500 but e2 is normal, my eq is probably legit. Frankly, I’m not gonna test every batch I buy and I’m definitely not going to waste money I could spend getting expensive or exotic compounds tested getting my test e janoed.
>>76908825Also, blood serum levels 100% will tell me how it’s dosed because I have gotten dozens of tests (they’re like $20 and I get bloods every 6 weeks on cycle) so I have a shit ton of data points to compare to. You’re right that metabolism between individuals varies a lot but my metabolism puts me pretty fucking close at the same doses.
I have like 600-700 testosterones. no idea what free test is. at my age, my grandpa probably had like 1500 natty. thinking of doing light trt just for libido, boners, confidence, not looking to get humongous. whats the downside of doing low dose of T really? may as well boost myself in my youth than wait to hop on it when im old and bitches really dont give a fuck about me. dont even care if id be on it all my life or ill just have some PCT ready if I decide otherwise.
>>76908754No thats kinda what I was doing with straight test but you’re ballsy doing that with tren. I’m experimenting safely but also want to kind of go hard so I am doing my do diligence like anon above wanting Masteron.
>>76893227Want to do my first cycle using the redit guide. Where do you exceptional gentleman procure your test? uk based. Tor browser/silk road?
>>76909236You can do whatever the current variant of silk road is but desu given test isn't as concretely illegal as most things there are a lot of clearnet providers. You'd basically be fine paying with normal cash but the main thing to be sure of is that it's sent domestically. You don't want to be importing because that's when you can be done. As for specific sources reddit is better, my source is old, unreliable and never has stock.
>>76909236You're overthinking this. Literally just go with what you find on google
>>76909236If you've even typed this on a website like 4chan you'll need to snap the phone/microwave the laptop. They can now even do indent readings on desks to see what keys were typed so cut up the table and deposit it around at least 3 forests.
>>76908238Well, I was just reading anywhere from 8-12 weeks is the general length of cycles of Tren Ace. I also have 40ml of medicine as well. 100mg/ml. Im thnking of 100mg EOD until its gone, just at 12 weeks. I'll see how I feel. Im already running Test C at 300mg a week in 2 doses. Ive gotten tremendous results since I started in Feb.
>>76908841How old are you now? If you are under 25 don't bother unless it's in the 300s, if >= 25 go for it, if >30 probably add 2-4iu hghTRT or a bit more isn't bad as a whole but its probably not going to change much realistically, that's why most will tell you if you're in the normal range just run a full cycleWhat will happen on TRT is you'll feel fucking great the first few months then your mood will normalize Then the obvious choice is take a bit more, or even a legit cycle, and as long as you don't screw up the dosing, you feel fucking amazing again, temporarily That's what makes a lot of trtfags end up blast and cruising, so there's one downsideanother is constant injections, many ppl drop TRT after they start for that reason, its just low grade annoying to manage I don't believe you'll ruin your nuts permanently but you will hear thatYou can stop for kid making, but you'll hear that you'll be infertile tootldr: just run the newbie 500 test cycle, trt isn't worth it unless you actually have low t
After roiding for a bit my traps have become fuckhuge, any reason not to do trap IM injections? They're probably my biggest muscle at the moment
Can I run MK 677 + HGH? It should just skyrocket my HGH right? Never heard anyone else run this though.
Think im going to abandon my cycle until I can get some different test. Been using 450mg/ml and the pain is unreal. Extremely tired and foggy headed I assume from the muscle inflammation so I can't eat or workout well. I shook off the 'higher PIP' concerns as I had none at 200mg/ml but with this I quite literally can't sit down with ass pain. Gf probably wondering why Im kneeling everywhere.
>>76909846Yeah bro do IM injections around your neck. If your hand stops working that's just proof you're getting ripped af.
>>76909864In the future could you not respond to me like a passive aggressive little bitch?
>>76909885Okay sorry
I am irrationally angry and feel like anything can tick me off when I’m naturally level headed and cool in most stressful situations. FUCK
>>76909921AND WHY AM I SO FUCKING HUNGRY ALL THE TIME
>>76909921The trick is to be racist against black "people" it becomes an outlet for you anger that only negatively impacts the beasts of the field while letting you live harmoniously with your fellow whites (humans)
>>76909947i already am, i went as blackface to my friends work party and drank henny. i hate niggers with all my heart and jews. I JUST WANT TO EAT AND THROW WEIGHTS
>>76893975Nigger, you're actually like 100 pounds overweight. I'm not even joking.
>>76909556So it the high libido etc wont be constant even if my test is stable and higher? I dont want to have to manage my estrogen and do bloodwork all the time. Dont want to look like i rood either. That's why I thought trt dose would be more manageable. Guess I'll stick with shitty supplements.
