Insulin resistance is the most insidious disease because it presents as a bunch of seemingly disparate symptoms that you may never piece together are caused by the same thing. Sugar cravings, feeling hungry after eating, blood sugar crashes, disrupted sleep, depression and anxiety from constantly fluctuating cortisol levels, acne from free testosterone being too high, lack of sex drive and low sperm count, immovable visceral fat, inflammation with chronic sinus infection and postnasal drip being just one side effect, blurred vision and dry eyes from fucked up optic nerves, chronic muscle stiffness especially in the hip flexors causing lower back pain. Chronic bloating because it slows down digestion. There's probably more I'm not remembering and that's not even getting into the nightmare of trying to get a diagnosis from the nakedly corrupt medical system. Or the quacks on YouTube telling you to drink fucking green tea and eat eggplants.
>>76903719Go keto. Problem solved. You're welcome.
>>76903733fpbpDownregulate the Randle Cycle.Insulin resistance also isn't a disease in it of itself, it is a construct used to describe the body's rejection of insulin (or expected response to insulin), which the body does for a good reason: to protect the cells from glycation.
It's God's joke because it's 100% genetic. Some lard bags can be 800 pounds and not have a single symptom and other people have 5kgs of visceral fat and their lives are ruined.
>>76903784Humans are a joke, not God. The populations genetically most vulnerable to betus and obesity are those that have more recently started eating plantslop post agricultural revolution diets, such as Native Americans (specifically northern American populations) and African populations.
>>76903719>>76903733>>76903779>>76903784>>76903792Stop blaspheming and don't do keto, you idiots.
>>76903719>fast for 1 (one) day per week>insulin problems fixed
>>76903803NOOOOOOOOOO YOU NEED TO EAT CARBS AND SPIKE YOUR INSULIN ITS GOOD FOR DIABETES NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I read something about separating your macro between your biggest meals, like highest carb low fat for breakfast or lunch , and high fat low carb for dinner to manage insulin response. And less sneed oil or if you really want sneed oil , get more vit e and omega 3. And postprandial walk.
>>76903719I have insulin resistance and I've never been fat (I do have a bit of lower stomach fat that I simply can't get rid of but I'm not overweight)
It is so over for you obese mfers
>>76903719It's not difficult to test for though. Just check HbA1c. Based metabolic theory of aging though.>>76903733>>76903779Why not just fast? And lose fat+lift+cardio obviously.>>76904076Insulin resistance correlates with visceral fat which is primarily in the lower stomach.
>>76903719>Insulin resistance is the most insidious diseaseIts not a disease its a protective mechanism. Sometimes its even beneficial like during puberty and pregnancy
>>76903719>mfw sleep like shit, constantly have sinus issues, struggle with acne, feel hungry in the evening, have stiff hips, and lately my left eye is weirdly blurrythis post convinced me to start fasting more. I'm 190 lbs at 6'2" but I could still be going down a bad road. Thank you OP.
just stop eating fat lmao, this shit was solved decades ago
>>76905170i didnt know the author of the women's magazines that my mom read in the 80s posted on 4chan
>>76903719Start doing this:
>>76905190Women used to be skinny, they used to wear low rise jeans. Now they're lards who hide their fupa with shapewear and high-rise pants; maybe those magazines were on to something.
>>76905136It is when doctors are on the pharmaceutical payroll and want to bullshit you until it turns into full blown beetus so you're paying for insulin for the rest of your life.
>>76903801Fuck god.
>>76905227Yeah, they were onto various ways of eating fewer calories
i dont have the symptoms yet my body stores all the fat in my underbelly; i started sprinting in addition to the weight lifting recently and can now almost see my upper abs; yet below there is a TON of fat
>>76906192>eating caloriesBegone, dark celestial anomaly
>>76903719bro just fucking move more like the fuck is your issue.insulin is measured daily, not by hour or minute.you can have absurdly high insulin and as long as you manage it throughout the rest of the day and it lowers again it becomes a non issue because of this.chronically high insulin is only found in people who don't actually move often and this issue is namely brought about by going to sleep with high insulin.Citation insulin is at its highest at 7pm and steadily drops until morning because of the nature of fasting until breakfast.if you have high insulin during your actual nighttime when you're suppose to be asleep, you're majorly fucking over your body.during the day you should be moving too often for insulin to ever peak above the 7pm timeframe where you're not moving and you've just ate.
>>76906234This only means that you have subclinical insulin resistance, go get your A1c checked>>76906247Retarded nigger award
>>76903733Most ketards are insulin resistant. They call it 'glucose sparing' but its actually intramyocellular lipid build up, its a non-carb dependent way to get insulin resistance and a steady 125 on the glucose meter which is technically prediabetic. Fat also kills pancreatic beta cells which proliferate at an ideal rate when challenged by carbs in the diet.
>>76903719insulin has 200 other functions in your body
>>76903803is dis true, chat?
>>76903719How's it caused overdoing the soda and oj? I don't think it's possible to eat so many carbs and acquire this betus.
>>76908893>>76903792what the fuck is betus?
>>76908747So eating enough carbs and spiking insulin intentionally to store more glycogen and build more muscle is good? I'm stuck between insulin resistance being a soda junkie thing or it being more of a keto/diet thing in that low carbs cause less gains. I keep carbs high and carb up pwo for glycogen. I build a lot of muscle keeping sugars/carbs high right after lifting and throughout the recovery period.
>>76908910Diabetes, fuckin eat a few big bags of cheetos and 2ls of soda see what's up.
>>76903719Just eat salad be4 meals and dont eat 4 hours be4 bed.
>>76908911Yes, a high carb diet combined with exercise is good. The official nutritional guidelines at least in the Nordics is that 50-55% of your daily energy should come from carbohydrates, and if you do lots of aerobic exercise, that number is even larger. I regularly eat 600-800g of carbohydrates a day, as I am a road cyclist and need lots of energy. On big ride days and prior to races I might eat 1000-1500g of carbs a day.
>>76908939>muh guidelines muh authorityHello Moxyte. It's time for your daily dose of B12 algae.
>>76908747The only people with intromollecular lipid build up are carbtards and SAD mutts as per the Randle cycle. You fail biochem. Insulin resistance is a man made construct, and it is the bodies defense to protect the cell cytosol and organelles from glycation, because sugar is a volatile substrate that fucks up every single protein and fat it comes into contact with (aka AGEs).>Fat also kills pancreatic beta cells which proliferate at an ideal rateAre you conflating visceral fat as magically being the same thing as dietary fats? Are you retarded? >>76908911>So eating enough carbs and spiking insulin intentionally to store more glycogen and build more muscle is good?No. You're just going to upregulate LPL and FAS and store triglicerides as fat, among other glycative damage to your tissues and hormonal upsets from insulin spikes. That shitty tired feeling you get after eating a carb heavy meal is a warning. Your body will continuosly use your own fat reserves for an energy source if you actively avoid carbs instead. Your choice.
>>76909011I have no idea what you are talking about, but nutritional guidelines represent the best diet for general population health based on the available scientific evidence
>>76909037Tell me how that's working out
>>76909053Ah yes, because Americans eat strictly by nutritional guidelines! Oh wait, less than 15% eat as much vegetables and fruits as the guidelines suggest, less than 5% eat as much whole grains as they should, the average american eats much more red meat and saturated fat than in the guidelines, almost nobody eats wnough fibre, and so on.
>>76909036Are you also schizo about AGEs from food? Here is a very nice breakdown about why you should not care about AGEs at all if you are healthy and not diabetic: https://drguess.substack.com/p/the-glucose-goddess
>>76909077>Glycation is actualy... LE GOOD!Lmfao the vegan tranny raid here gets better and better. Here I thought we wouldn't surpass "keto clots" and "B12 algae". Now glycation is just a racist chud term I suppose.
>>76909067Americans have been eating less and less sat fat and red meat, less than almost ever. And their plant consumption is now higher than ever, you're just a disingenuous seething veganoid that doesn't consider french fries a vegetable food, doesnt consider HFCS a fruit sugar (fructose) but does consider a cheeseburger and pizza as "meat foods" despite being 90-95% plant matter.
Also>whole grains LE GOOD!>whole grains that have been mashed up a bit more into a flour.... BAD BAD BAD BAD VERY CANCER
>>76909090You are pointlessly worried about a mechanistic effect that is simply not relevant when you are not diabetic. As for anything in biochem, dose and context make the poison. I urge you to read the text carefully, you may learn something. High carb vegetable-rich diets are recommended by just about every nutritional body because they have been shown to be, both clinically and epidemiologically, very healthy.I do not care one bit about your schizo rants about racism, no idea what you are talking about.
>>76909098And yet they still are not adhering to the dietary guidelines. This has been excessively studied. https://www.dietaryguidelines.gov/sites/default/files/2021-11/DGA_2020-2025_HEIOverTime.pdf The adherence to the guidelines has remained essentially the same throughout the 2000s.
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>>76909036I just add caffeine and the pump is bigger carbed up. Not as much weight as more effective sets.>>76908939I mean more for gains. Without a ton of carbs the weight for working sets lowers fast after the first set. Is your post arguing for adding fats to pre-workout with carbs? Interesting.
>>76909158No, I suggest you just keep eating the carbs – no need for adding fat there. Eating a high-carb diet high in protein is good for your gains. So keep on rocking anon!
>>76903719>remove the fat (saturated fat)>lose weightInsulin resistance cured.>>76903733>put a bandaid on the problem and cure nothingTypical Jewish disinformation. It's all so tire
>>76908939>a high carb diet combined with exerciseThe ketoniggers won't do it because they have dysbiosis and beans make them feel bloated.Rather than address the dysbiosis they decided to wage nuclear war on their microbiomes by starving everything to death. What they really suffer from is called "SIBO" in the ACTUAL medical literature, but they'll never look into that. But yes the billions of people living just fine on carbs are wrong.
>>76909205>put a bandaid on the problem and cure nothingYou could say this about low fat diets as well. The problem is a hypercaloric mixed diet. Both low fat or low carb can help. No need to be so dogmatic
>>76908161keep talking shit that's why you have diabetes and I don't.yall niggers think once a day spikes are going to cause metabolic disease, the body is designed to spike and has mechanisms for insulin spiking.
>>76908939The body can sustain heavy activity with fat. That's what fat is there for. YOU can't do it because your body is not used to keto. Lots of athletes perform very well on keto.The dietary guidelines are out of date and based on poor science. Academia has many, many issues like letting go of overcome ideas. Todays authorities in nutrition science have spent their careers coming up in the framework of the food pyramid. New ideas have to come either from young researchers or from outsiders not tied to mainstream nutrition sciences. Like those arguing for low carb diets.
>>76903719I'm still gonna drink a ton of soda and vodka pwo+intra try and stop me
>>76909222>You could say this about low fat dietsExcept low-fat diets actually restore insulin function rather than negating the need for insulin by adopting the most extreme and restrictive diet possible.
>>76909317logical fallacy.fat exist for one transportation mechanism during periods where other transportation systems are not being utilized.abuse of any system creates extreme diminishing returns in nutrition and efficiency.I bet you think having an abundance of nutrition 24/7 is also healthy don't you ya fucking pooft jeet.
>>76909342Wieght loss by means of either diet will restore insulin function. Going back to a hypercaloric mixed diet will cause the issue to return.
>>76909317The body can sustain heavy activity with fat, yes – but far worse than with adequate carbohydrates. Every single world class endurance athlete eats very high carb because it has been proven to work better than low carb or keto. Even when "fat adapted", the body is more inefficient when burning fat compared to carbs, as for every liter of oxygen consumed you get more energy from carbohydrates than fat (even if fat is 9kcal and carbs 4kcal, fat requires more oxygen). Keto has been shown to impair high level endurance sport, e.g. Burke 2017: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28012184/And if your rebuttal is "b-but the keto athletes didn’t have a “carb-loading” or reintroduction phase before the final race". Well Burke et al. did a follow up study and showed that even when introducing such a protocol, keto provided no positive effect for exercise. There's also been recent studies made about keto diets impairing more anaerobic performance, which should not be shocking at all to anyone interested in human performance, as shorter anaerobic efforts rely on glycolysis or the rapid use of carbohydrates. I suggest you listen to the Empirical Cycling podcast episode "Watts Doc 34: Why Keto Is Not The Diet You're Looking For", which takes a deep dive into the research and elaborates more on my points.>The dietary guidelines are out of date and based on poor science.They are based on the best scientific evidence we have. If evidence to the contrary existed, then the guidelines would shift.
>>76909354That is not true. If you completely negate the need for carbs, you will not need the same level of insulin production. If you eat normal foods again, you will fail an oral glucose tolerance test AKA you'd still be diabetic.That's because type 2 diabetes is a problem of lipids coating the cell membranes, preventing insulin from entering the cells and being utilized to intake sugar. Lipids are fats. And the prime driver is saturated fat.This is a WELLLLLLLLLLLLLL established medical fact. Your keto influencer will never tell you about this. Just buy his grass-fed blah blah blah and get your 20% referral code while supplies last. Don't forget to like and subscribe as this really helps me out.
>>76909355High-fat diets are the driving cause of endotoxemia which is what causes the huge spike of inflammation that drives virtually every modern disease. The saturated fat chylomicrons shuttle endotoxins across the gut wall and deposit them into the blood stream, arteries, brain, and organs. Endotoxins are extremely poisonous byproducts of bacterial cell walls. Essentially bacteria shit.Health outcomes improve when you do one of two things>adopt a high-carb low fat diet>adopt a high-fat low carb dietThe high-carb low-fat diet, specifically one rich in fiber will prevent the fat from binding to the endotoxins and soak up the endotoxins before they can get into the bloodstream, leaving with your feces.The high-fat low-carb starves (or more rather forces into hibernation) the bacteria that produce the endotoxins. Providing symptomatic relief so long as a low-carb diet is maintained.This is why people like Mikhaila Peterson have to stay on carnivore and can't eat a single carb. Their microbiomes are so fucked from an overgrowth of harmful bacteria that any carbohydrate consumption will force the bacteria out of their state of quiescence, producing a massive surge of inflammation and tissue damage. Endotoxins (specifically lipopolysaccharides) from bacteria such as Strep., E. coli trigger massive cytokine storms. Group A Strep in particular causes most of these "mysterious" diseases of inflammation. It produces exotoxins called SPEs that can trigger 50%+ of your T-cells to activate in your body in very small amounts. This can cause "toxic shock syndrome" leading to organ failure and death.>This is what is ACTUALLY happening inside the guts of these people who claim that carnivore/keto is the "ideal diet for man". It isn't. They have EXTREME parasitic infections wrecking their gut microbiome that they are masking with a bandaid solution. None of you fags will bother reading or even comprehend what I just said, but it's the 100% fucking TRUTH
>>76909477the best diet is quite literally eat anything you can in moderate amounts
>>76909458Low carb or low fat weight loss will improve insulin function. This is as you say a WEEEELLLLLLLLL established fact.
>>76909502Low carb does not improve insulin function. It masks it. I don't care how many times your influencers and cultists repeat this. We have actual documented facts. You however cannot provide a single shred of proof that a low-fat diet ACTUALLY reverses insulin resistance.Why does literally everyone here argue in completely bad faith?
>>76903719>Insulin resistance is the most insidious disease because it presents as a bunch of seeminglyIn my country it's just a free blood test
>>76909344It's not a logical fallacy you mong. It's also not 'abuse of one system' to be in ketosis. Ketosis is the fueling mechanism that applies when people do NOT have uniform, reliable levels of nutrition every day.>>76909355>The body can sustain heavy activity with fat, yes – but far worse than with adequate carbohydrates.Wrong.>Every single world class endurance athlete eats very high carb because it has been proven to work better than low carb or keto.Wrong.>If evidence to the contrary existed, then the guidelines would shift.You are very, very optimistic because you lack experience.
>>76909585Did you even read what I wrote? Care to refute the studies I posted, for example? And yes, I "lack experience" lol, as opposed to you I guess? I work as a university teacher – not in health sciences, but in statistics.
>>76903719A lot of these symptoms are just being fat. at my heaviest I had postnasal drip ,acne ,lower back pain but my blood work came out clean at 100 mg/dl.being fat alone fuck your body up, diabetes just make things worse.
>>76909600You made sweeping statements about 'every single world class endurance athlete' and such nonsense. I don't even need studies to shit on you. A single article from a random web search is enough for that. https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/zach-bitter-100-mile-american-record-holder-he-also-eats-almost-no-carbsYou lack experience because you are unaware of how academia is influenced by selfish interests, egos and plain human realities. The universities select for midwits that know how to play by the rules. Like you.
>>76903733>Should you exercise and just eat normal portions??>Absolutely not, try this absolute fucking meme diet that will give you awful breath and bone loss
>>76903801/ThreadCardio fixes insulin resistance wayyy better and faster than ketardation
>>76909574I had two and they came back as obvious bullshit saying they couldn't find any problem despite me having literally every symptom short of lapsing into a coma and dying. If I'd listened to doctors I'd be dead.
>>76909643You have endotoxemia.
>>76909679You have gender dysphoria.
>>76909631Keto is a legitimate diet that can include tons of vegetables, healthy fats and even some berries and nuts. Are you mixing up keto and carnivore?
>>76909566Your picture just affirms what I've been saying the whole time. Either low fat or low carb if you lose weight can improve insulin function. Established medical fact
I'm more convinced than ever that eating fruits first thing in the morning is the most optimal way of consuming carbs. Then end the day with an early dinner of mostly protein and fat, and go to sleep on an empty stomach
niggers will literally do anything but walk around a little bit
>>76903719People usualy break this cycle by fasting, but me, being absolute unit as I am, instead choose to not feel tired and hungry before eating.
>>76911179Physical activity increases appetite.
>>76909477>This is why people like Mikhaila Peterson have to stay on carnivore and can't eat a single carb. Their microbiomes are so fucked from an overgrowth of harmful bacteria that any carbohydrate consumption will force the bacteria out of their state of quiescence, producing a massive surge of inflammation and tissue damage.Yet she can just stay on carnivore and not have a problem, despite that saturated fat totally shuttling even more of that gigaload of endotoxins into her bloodstream.Almost like you're a fucking retard and don't understand endotoxemia but you'd like to think you do because it supports your retarded narrative.
cont.You need a leaky gut and a non-functioning immune system to have any problems with endotoxemia. I'll leave out microbiome health, despite being relevant, only because it's barely understood whatsoever and not relevant because:The following causes leaky gut:wheat glutenindigestible plant fibers which damage the enteric system liningFODMAP carbohydratesemulsifiers (found in processed food)seed oils that promote inflammationAll plant slopKetosis is anti-inflammatory:reduces intestinal permeabilitylowers Gram-negative overgrowth in the gutincreases β-hydroxybutyrate, which inhibits endotoxin-triggered inflammationincreases tight-junction proteins in the gutand Carnichads have much healthier immune systems compared to SAD or vegans (n=3, understandable if you disagree, I don't care though)Also (n=3), no endotoxemia here, and I can eat carbs just fine whenever I want, I prefer not to.
>ketosis is anti-inflammatorycalcifies your arteries too, yw
>>76909477i trust on you anon
>>76911372activity decreases appetite.literally lowers ghrelin
>>76911486>Yet she can just stay on carnivore and not have a problemWhat exactly do the words "quiescence" and "hibernation" mean to you?
>>76912330What I'm saying is just basic-level research.. If you fags bothered to study anything you'd know this too.Google scholar has a litany of articles about endotoxemia and it's connected to just about every modern disease. Many will go so far as to call it CAUSAL which is an extremely rare and bold move to make in scientific literature.
Seed oils cause diabetes not sugar
>>76912343While you do it and for a short while after. Then you get more hungry because your body needed more energy.
>Sugar cravings, feeling hungry after eating, blood sugar crashes, disrupted sleep, depression and anxiety from constantly fluctuating cortisol levels, acne from free testosterone being too high, lack of sex drive and low sperm count, immovable visceral fat, inflammation with chronic sinus infection and postnasal drip being just one side effect, blurred vision and dry eyes from fucked up optic nervesI have all of these.
>>76912947time to go on a diet fat boy
>>76912959No. Unless you eat nothing ever the only solution is to build more muscle storage for excess insulin. Because your body isn't using any of the energy you give it properly no matter how little.
>>76903803s(ixth)pbpfasting is the factory reset on modern day life. putting sticks of butter in your coffee and drinking bacon grease is retarded cope
>>76912947Red meat and eggs diet fixes this. Switch to it slowly over 6-8 weeks. Use TUDCA or sunflower lecithin 15min before meals during this time because your gallbladder is most likely sludged up too.
>>76912125No it doesn't Moxyte. There are no "keto clots" and animals which have much higher LDL than modern humans and are always in ketosis also don't get "keto clots". Fifth thread you've been btfo in. Endotoxemia cope was another self own too, especially because actual endotoxemias such as SIBO are caused by FODMAPS which are all carb/plant foods. Dont eat plants and your intestines work and your gut isnt leaky. Back to plebbit now.
>>76912654You're really better off not using something like Google scholar if you are fundamentally unable to read scientific literature and lack any critical thinking skills. The only use you have for it is to search according to your confirmation bias like a reductionist retard, and then spam copy pasted studies after you read the abstract.
>>76913025>reductionist retardI care about truth and health, not meat-ag profits. Sorry I'm a human.
>>76913141Lol yeah big cow man, they're udderly evil
>>76909726Ketosis can damage organs and cause bone loss on top of the breath issue If you're "doing keto" but not actually in ketosis, then you're actually just doing a super low carb diet
>>76913157>your body automatically damages itself between meals
>>76908911Generally, you want to increase good carb intake to build muscle That allows and signals to the body that it's okay to build energy intensive lean mass
>>76909123Insoluble** fiber
>>76913161ketard madketard madketard mad
i wonder if you can reverse insulin resistance by spending every waking hour of your life arguging against carbs online
>>76913206>good carbs>it's just the bad carbs with added fiber
I did keto recently and it made me brave enough to admit that I love men and am a homosexual. I'm going to tell my parents I'm Trans soon. Thank you keto.
>>76913157>ketosis can damage organsthe production of 3-hydroxybutyric acid as a ketone body massively skews the scales towards improved organ health and functionyou're conflating diabetic keto-acidosis with dietary ketosis
Soooo if ketones are what's good for you... why not just supplement them?Ketofags won't TOUCH this
