IM 1 DAY LATE FOR MY TREN PIN AHHHHHHHHHH

What's the deal with the SLU-PP-32 shit? I see it's now being marketed by Chris Duffin as an ERRa agonist that helps tissues shift from carb to fat oxidation so you burn fat more easily on a cut.

Is there anything to it? Has anyone tried it?

>>76910926
I personally will never touch anything with a number instead of a name. Tren? Good. Test? Good? PlXY09888? Lmao fuck your gay weirdo shit if you want me to buy it give it a fucking name nerds

I know no source talk but whatever the board is dead anyway. Is atlas trustworthy for UK anons?

>>76908251
inject into other muscles?

>>76911159
Somehow you caught me as i visited again. I'm pinning tomorrow and think i might have to go delt as my ass is still beyond sore. I can barely drive without bracing as i get in the car. I'm going to try dilute down or chuck this stupid high concentration test. I'm basically not eating or gyming much because of the ass ache so what's the point.

>>76911111
for that get i’ll allow it
>>76911165
i like Lats for 2x/week and i do blue collar so im using my upper body a lot, hasnt been an issue

>>76910926
it's a meme, just overpriced placebo pills. Stick with Reta or hgh for fat loss

Mast is a trash compound and op is a fag boomer

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>>76911600
Tren is even better than hgh for a cut. Dubs getting faggot.
>>76911165
>bought and pinned the meme high test concentration
pic related
>>76911479
Lats is literally goated for injections, you can hit three different parts of the lat and it can take massive amounts of oil. Just dodge the veins.

>>76911612
>>bought and pinned the meme high test concentration
It was all my supplier had and I can usually tank most pain. But this is to the point it's like you're doing real fucking damage to yourself.

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>>76911687
yea test e past 350 is extremely painful, toss it. No amount of solvents is gonna change it.

>>76911731
Yeah i'll get some lower concentration. Honestly dropped all my lifts by 20% today because of how shit I was feeling and I wasn't even doing legs. Lesson learned.

>>76911731
hes a big guy

>>76910643
this picture is so badass
what exactly am i looking at?

>>76911612
>>bought and pinned the meme high test concentration
More and more UGLs are starting to offer decanoate 500, it's smooth as butter and you can pin it e5d or even weekly no problem.

>>76911731
test e is painful because non-pharma test e raws are contaminated dogshit
Zero reason to be using enanthate in 2k25.95. It's a dogshit ester.

>>76911971
Mine was definite pharma. It's the concentration/oil/solvent. Vicious stuff.

>>76911165
dude by some lab grade mct, a 22u filter, and two sterile 10ml sanitzed and vacuum sealed vials. Filter some mct in to one vial, put hslf that into the second, then split your 400mg/ml stuff between the two. 200mg/ml'ish in each then. tou dint need a ton of stuff. maybe cost $60 shipped

>>76910926
It works but
>helps tissues shift from carb to fat oxidation
is nonsense.
It'll make your muscles fatigue slower and recover faster though, kind of like a steroid but only in terms of energy, not anabolism.

>>76911165
Is it chink oil? They put ethyl oleate in everything. High concentration chink test also usually contains guaiacol. Nasty shit.

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does anyone have a screenshot of that post where an anon showed his 1 year body transformation with peds that kinda looks like the shit I just drawed? he said what his routine, diet and stack was. this was probably back in 2020 or 2021

what is the number 1 thing to do to prevent gear from aging your face?

I feel like arnold always pretty much looked his age or a bit young for his age. Some roiders get on and seem to age 10 years instantly. I need the solution to this

>>76912394
Idk? Glow (GHK-CU, BPC & TB-500) won't hurt. GH helps skin.

>>76912394
goyim foreskin

>>76912394
Finasteride.

lets say im 81kg at 12% bodyfat and i wanna go up to 85kg at the same bf% in a cycle and stay there long term, what do i take?

>>76912394
Sounds gay but regularly wash your face and moisturize

Worst case scenario botox for wrinkles

>>76912677
So you want to gain 4kg out of which about 0.5 kg is fat and 3.5 kg is lean mass

Before any peds are involved, have you got your diet and training dialed in? Do you know your maintenance calories, how much surplus to add, can you easily wolf down 160g of protein in a day without resorting to hyperpalatable shit? Are you an advanced lifter or just a beginner who wants to get results faster than natty? (no judgement here but we need to know)

Normally I'd say just a cycle of test + small amounts of GH would get you there in 12 weeks with a dbol kickstart (looking at about 1.2 kg of lean mass every 4 weeks, or 300g per week), followed by trt dose for cruising to maintain

>>76912677
500 test, 4k calories, 200g protein, a lot of carbs, fats are meme, cardio 3 times a week. HGH optional if young, a must if boomerfag

>>76912928
>12 week cycle
>dbol kickstart
found the natty larper

>>76912942
I've literally done that and it's got me to 110 kg at 15% bf (gonna cut down to 10 in the first half of 2026)

>>76912928
been lifting for about 5 years but got most of my results only in the last 2 years, i'd say i gained about 10kg lean mass in that period but im 188cm/6'2ft so i'm pretty sure my frame allows me to get bigger than only 81kg/180lbs. so technically a somewhat advanced lifter but not really at the natty limit. i am familiar with all the nutritional aspects.

when you say trt for cruising, how long will i have to do that for?

So many horror stories about tren, some people saying not to go over 150mg per week, apparently I am at 400mg since I forgot about doing Enanthate 2x a week… which means my Test is 500mg per week…
Might drop down in amount

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>retards who cut two decades off their lifespan and permanently sterilise themselves because they bnc like professional athletes and BBs

>but for no financial incentive
>they literally do it for free!

>>76911165
Easy is to just pin half a mil in two different muscles if the 400mg per ml is causing probs. But the area thats causing a problem shouldnt next time you pin there.

>>76913196
I know people say it won't hurt as much in future but that reasoning even worries me that you're basically killing off some aspect or functioning of that muscle.

Thought it had eased but full night sweats last night and took me 10 minutes to convince myself to roll out of bed. I've ordered some 200mg/ml stuff and i think i'll just accept a missed dose whilst waiting.

>>76913186
if i could id cut 50years off for marginal gains

>>76912394
Eat collagen , aka unflavored jello.
As for shaving, use an alcohol free aftershave and finish with Vaseline to lock in moisture.

Does caber really lower your refractory period?

>>76913563
like between cooming?

is 200mg week alright for a cut, 8 week cycle? I'm 23% bf

>>76913634
Yes, I've seen a lot of reports saying lowered refractory period and increased pleasure on it at .25mg and .5mg respectively, but a lot of these are from people who already have increased libido from gear

>>76913681
a TRT cut for 8 weeks would be marginal

>>76913235
Even test prop at 100mg per ml can cause some people same problem. But again it goes if you keep pinning it. 400mg will nearly always cause a problem at first. Having a bad reaction isnt the end of the world. Let it go and then pin same muscle again and it shouldnt react. Or just dilute the 400 with your 200mg ml and it should be fine.

spoon feed me PCT after winter blast?
Clomid? Nolva? hCG for sure.
or cruise…?

Sildenafil, Test, Dbol. I am become SEX GOD.

>>76910926
Got 60 tabs of it for free with my last order, am taking it now (1mg a day) and notice absolutely no difference. Like >>76911600 said, just use reta
>>76914126 cruise
Anybody else decamaxxing in the new year? Going to run a golden era stack of deca and dbol.

>>76914489
Yeah just gonna do that, no real point to PCT if I will just continue cycling for a bit.

>>76913186
>wanting to live longer
nattycuck lifting not even once

>>76913771
what does that mean? I'd get marginal growth while losing fat, or something different? what should i do instead

sorry for being a naive dumbfuck

>>76914611
If you're cutting effectively you won't be gaining shit. It's all about preserving muscle mass, even on a cut on trt you will loss muscle. Just alot less than natty, and you'll lose next to nothing if you stack anabolics like tren, var etc.

>>76914650
so is it advisable to cut with a small amount of test or just do it natty? I'm not expecting to gain muscle just wanna more effectively preserve it while losing fat.

is it worth the potential sides etc in your opinion ?

>>76914807
are you coming off a cycle or just want to do 200mg to cut?

>>76914807
If you're natty, just cut down normally or with some reta. Then hop on cycle and blast, you will love seeing the results.

>>76914886
>>76914906
I was gonna cycle for the first time but my bf% is too high, likely 22-23%. when I asked here about risks of doing a cycle with higher bf someone suggested I just do a 200mg cycle while cutting

I've never been on gear before

never heard of reta, will google

>>76915127
I cycled just fine at 30%

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>>76910643
So I wanted to hop back on DNP again, after using it with great success back in 2015 or so.

To my surprise, after going trough a dozen of top sellers, I couldn't find any that sells it. Only clen with awful sides, and lame semiglutides that takes years to get where I need to be.

Does anyone know what's up with that? Not asking for specific source, just trying to understand if they still exist in 2025

If I can finagle a raise next month, is it possible to stay permanently on lower dosages of tren?

Is it true that gear permanently ruins your body's own test production? Is it possible to just do it for a few years and not look like total shit afterwards?

>>76915259
i came off some months ago and have been taking enclomiphene since then, havent gotten my levels tested but i feel pretty fine. my balls are still atrophied as fuck but otherwise i think im fine. really should get my levels tested and find out if im just cooked completely and have to take trt for life now or if im just fine like i think i am.

If my blood pressure is creeping up should I try to lower it with an AI (I'm only on test) or start telmisartan?

>>76915278
Sorry to hear that bro. At least women don't seem to care about balls very much. And I guess it makes your dick look bigger even.

>>76915350
yeah i will say its nice that i only lost glycogen and nitrogen retention, i just got a little fat. kept most of my gains so shrivelled balls is the least of my worries. and true, my dick hangs lower than my balls now kek

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>>76915220
Not sure why you'd want to, but a Purple kung fu has it. Pretty cheap too, but seriously just use some reta.
>>76914551
PCTing in general is a waste of time.
>>76915288
Yes, you should use AI. Don't get memed by faggots who tell you to let your estrogen run sky high. That will completely fuck you in the long run if you try out 19 nors.

What even is insulin resistance I basically don't believe diabetes exists

I did a mild sarm cycle with mk677 like 8 months ago and was at my heaviest around this time 315

I'm now 275, and I'm running a stack again, I basically don't believe diabetes exists so why should I not hop on mk677 again for muh lipolosis and my sarm dose is triple now

I also want my arms to get to 20 inches but I don't really want to buy test and I currently don't have health insurance and I hate doctors in general

>>76913563
>>76913725
not directly related but refractory period is only a physical thing, you can cum without ejaculating and not experience it
>>76914126
PCT is a horrible, horrible joke, but if you really need to, hMG+tamoxifen+aromasin (you can swap the hMG for hCG but it'll take longer for your sperm counts to return)
>>76915220
also not directly related but have you been able to find any BAM15 anywhere? it's like DNP but more selective, so less sides
>>76915259
most men get their natural production restored within 1 year (at MOST) of stopping roids - this primarily has to do with long-lived metabolites, and time for your HPG axis to recalibrate
there are quite a few case studies of "hypogonadic" men also getting their production restarted with artisanal doses of hCG/hMG/GnRH
>>76915505
A1c is a very good proxy for insulin resistance, go get it checked
>mk677
shit drug, you'd be better off just doing GH directly
but seriously, insulin resistance sucks, run it with metformin if your A1c starts to get out of hand

>>76915505
Lose some weight fatty

>>76915552
I have been beta

>>76915546
I already have the mk

Last time I did it in the morning which is stupid

Is it general practice to take gh at night for you guys to avoid the hunger and get good sleep, seems logical

>>76915554
You’re 275, you’re obese or morbidly obese depending on your height and your worrying about mk677 of all things lmao

>>76915557
I have a fuckton of muscle as well, you jealous

Are your arms approaching 20 inches after 16 months in the gym, probably not

When do anons start HCG on a cycle? I normally start after the first week.

>>76915563
Lol, lost cause.

>>76913096
tren is the bestest. dont drop the dose. ride the dragon!

I'm getting on gear boys, I'm getting 200mg test weekly for "TRT". When I want to bump it up should I add more test or Masteron / Primo? I figure if 200 test is good on E2 then why not just add Mast for a while and let it ride

I am so fucking sore I legit need to take a few more days off to rest, how much gains will I lose? Might just eat clean while I rest and do Legs/Core while my Upper body rebounds.

>>76915728
No I decided to do 200mg Test twice a week so 400mg but drop to 100mg Tren twice a week so 200mg. That way I don’t have the crazy sides I expect from Tren and stick to my previous base test cycle. Dbol coming next week and more Test for post-Tren cruising.
Super fatigued and sore though I think I overworked myself due to pulling OT at the manual labor factory and not adjusting my gym routine around it.

Anybody in the US know where I can get a legit enclomiphene script online and delivered so I don't have to use UGL bs?

>>76915956
ahh boo. ruin your life for our entertainment! none of this reasonable nonsense... pff
>>76916019
probably any trt clinic nearby

>>76916019
algorx

>>76916046
It would’ve been funny I admit, not like I have anything going for me I could try to gynomaxx and just be a lolcow.

>>76911165
baka people injecting the glutes too low. you gotta go to the top of your asscrack, then either 2 inches left or right into the upper glute. no pip

>>76915546
why do you think PCT is a joke ? does it apply to a single low dose cycle

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>>76916543
He has no other source of self-worth in his life so he stays on gear year round because he's afraid to lose muscle.

No-one should be blast and cruising unless they're using it as as source of financial gain, like pro athletes or bodybuilders. Imagine taking out huge loans for car you can't afford and paying huge interest when you could just upgrade from a noticeably better than average car every once in a while.

>>76915581
Beta

So are the risks associated with cycling with a high bf % mitigatable with proper sides management e.g. AIs

>>76916791
Yes, generally. Cycling from a high BF is generally a disfavourable position for a number of reasons, not only because of aromatization issues.

If you're trying to put on muscle you'll generally have to be in a surplus, which means you'll put on fat along with muscle, unless you try to lean bulk, in which case you'll get less than what you could have using gear.

The end result will generally be that you are fatter and more muscular end of cycle, which means visually you won't see those gains very well and physiologically you're putting your body and your heart under greater stress, because you're just as fat, but now you're also carrying around more musculature that your cardiovascular system has to support.

Imo it's shitty and unrealistic to gatekeep roids by picking an arbitrary body fat as the minimum you need before starting a cycle, but you should be aware of what you're going into and adjust your expectations accordingly.

>>76916887
alright thanks very much. I was going to go into it from 22% but seems unrealistic. I always vacillate after a cut and don't get around to getting on gear - by that point I've put on too much fat again

maybe I'll aim for 15% bf next cut

>>76916963
im about 20% and enjoyed my cycle, biggest side i got was acne on shoulders but it wasnt awful it was just a noticeable

>>76916887
The high bf situation I think is great for sarms because they don't aromatize, that's what I've been doing I'm the guy asking about gh

Took the mk, feels good, got a full 8 hours of sleep lol

>>76915220
no supply cuz no demand
you (most likely) won't kill yourself with clen and glp1s have basically no sides and curb appetite which is what some people prefer

>>76915259
Yes it's why there's so many transgender folx around now. I foolishly did a test cycle at 20 and became a gay sissy bitch when I stopped and then transitioned at 23. Now im getting fucked by guys i used to look like!

Not including alcohol, what can I take/do to get my testosterone lowered so I can be below 300?

>>76917362
bust a nut a few times a few days before , don't sleep, don't eat

>>76917412
Thanks.

>>76917092
>clen
Who the fuck bothers with clen anymore

>>76917482
I do
it just werks
great for natties too

>>76917637
I know this thread is full of natties

>>76916543
It's incredibly painful and is quite tricky to handle well
>>76916550
I never said to cruise
>>76916887
GH would mitigate most of the issues relating to "you'll have to be in a surplus"
>>76917482
Nta but clen is still one of the better weight loss drugs, better than glp1a in my book

>>76916100
haha! oof..... yeah

everyone made out HCG to be like like fraught with problems and "bro it will make your e2 go crazyyyy" and I am here to report after 2 weeks on the shit that my balls feel a little bigger and I have not noticed any high e2 symptoms. Just taking 500 iu/week

>>76915793
IMO test is best. I know it makes the /fraud/ thread less interesting but if you are not planning to be a competive bodybuilder there is no reason to take anything other than test. Its dirt fucking cheap, your body knows what to do with it, we know all about what it does and the side effects. It is well tolerated, bioidentical, generally makes you feel good. Like you really can't make the case for needing anything. Even something like anavar is mostly used because its FUN and recreational if we are being real.

>>76918712
What about primo? I am interested because it could mean I can ditch AIs potentially by stacking it with test.

>>76918733
Yeah its relatively expensive but its good. I think I would rather just take the time to get my AI dose dialed in personally though. I am not a believer in the "AI is bad for you" shit that you hear. Crashed estrogen is bad for you, AI should not lead you to zero estrogen if dosed right.

>>76918712
So you think blasting test with an AI is better than adding something else?

>>76918733
>>76918750
bro stole my question

>>76918753
yeah I do. I think its really retarded how a lot of people take contest prep drugs bodybuilders use just so they can mog at planet fitness. Test will get you everything you want and with the least risk imo.

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Where my millenia boomers at? Aside from trt what are you doing?

Daily
>10mg cialis
>ipa/cjc no dac

I was thinking about trying one of those glow up peptide combos with ghk-cu/mt2/bpc157. Anyone have any luck with that? What about a ghk-cu facial ointment?

>got my first facial line at 43 now I'm panicking

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>>76919079
Get some tretinoin for your face bro. One of the only things that works. I also use copper peptide shit on my face but I think its pretty worthless

while hunter biden did not age super gracefully, he looks quite good relative to the amount of crack he smoked

>>76919079
tren
test
sildenafil
dbol

>>76919079
tretinoin, you can get a script online easy or get it from a jeet pharmacy online like alldaychemist
Also for like $300 you can get laser resurfacing, that shit will undo like 5 years

Anyone know where I can get pharma enclomiphene? US domestic

>>76919183
I already answered this, Algorx there's not really any reliable grey market

>>76919191
Man I hate the idea of supporting Greg douchette (he is part owner of algorx)

>>76919079
how is ipa/cjc for joint pain? im looking at getting bpc/tb500 for it but the increased energy bit of cjc sounds appealing as well.

>has anyone taken any of the 'focused' based peptides?

>>76919208
All peptides except glp-1 agonists, bpc-157/tb500 are basically placebo, even if they do something it will be so minor that the money isn't worth it.

>>76919204
Lol I already used it before I found out. I had the same feeling

The shit is also very high profit margin I can tell

My Gyno is really bad… when should I start taking Raloxifene?

>>76919214
I've played with some of the GH secretagogues too they are ok if you're just taking gh for wellness. But its only like 2iu effect, definitely not blast dose

>>76919204
who cares, get your shit and mog him

>>76919221
start looking for a surgeon big dog

If I take 1 mg ED of fin and I still high have DHT (90 ng/DL) should I increase the fin dose or just switch to DUT?

>>76919079
Test, eq, deca, tadalafil, L-Carnitine, hgh
Bunch of otc supps particularly for heart and cardio

>>76919221
i just had a nightmare i had bad gyno so i woke up and checked, think i felt a mass but i could be paranoid but i took my AI just in case

>>76919423
You need like 1000mg of fin to get just 10% more DHT suppression than with 1mg fin. Just use dut.

>>76919214
Patently false, i stack cjc and ipamorelin and my strength, appetite, recovery and sleep quality (actually measured the last one, i get way more rem and deep sleep) is insane compared to before.

Yeah sure i would probably get even better results with just pinning GH but I am in it for long haul and probably won't do it until late 30s or early 40s

/fit/ lied to me again
>do 500 mg test + 300 mg deca
>expect deca dick
>get much hornier instead

What the hell?

Anyone else develop a needle fixation from pinning? Even on off days I enjoy jabbing an empty into my delt which I know is kind of fucked, but it makes me horny.

>>76920296
Nobody here actually frauds
Or lifts

>>76920366
Is everybody here just ai chatbots?

>>76920394
No but interesting point! 4chan /fit/ has a diverse userbase of real people from all over the globe. It focuses mostly on fitness and exercise with broader surrounding discussions of culture, health and relationships!

There's no evidence that /fit/ specifically has a chatbot poster problem with past in person meet ups from users demonstrating their very real existence!

>>76920296
>when i do 500 test i get horny!!!
whoa
>>76920366
i do!

>>76920450
I didn't get that horny on test despite bloods confirming. I think i'm existentially done with women.

>>76920460
try trannys!

>>76920460
You sound really ugly.

>>76920526
just deathnic black

test makes me roid rage and sends my hemoglobin to the moon. for me, test is not best. ment is best frankly.

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>>76920460
Consider it a badge of honor.

My personality does not change one iota on a gram of test. My libido has always been high. I feel sorry for the guys whose personalities completely change and become slobbering gooners and unbearable narcissists because it's basically a biochemical admission that their true selves are inferior men.

>>76920665
I only ever felt roid rage when my e2 got way too high. Lucky I have not run into issues with blood like that. What even is the move if test does that to you? Become a primocel?

>>76920674
For me it's not estrogen. I'm naturally very cranky and aggressive, and test just makes me into a turbo cunt. I've run ment at very high doses without AI (a mistake btw) and high estrogen gives me a kind of bitchiness, but not the RAGE that test gives me.

And I just told you, replace test with ment. The dose is something like 5-10mg test to 1 mg of ment imo.

Idk I am naturally up beat and never really lose my temper but something about test made me just irritated over small things a LOT.

>>76920763
high estrogen

>>76919087
>>76919145
Tretinion seems to be a winner. I'm also 1000x more open to shit like lasers than I was a couple years ago

>>76919208
Probably not that great. TB has always been my joint go to.

IPA/CJC gives around 1-2 iu of gh. But it also prevents your body from shutting down gh production when you run it for a long time. Long story short, better for general health than pure gh but you can't dial it up like gh.

>>76919214
>all peptides but glp-1 and tb are fake
Does that include insulin too, retard?

>>76920805
testosterone can increase aggression via pathways that don't involve estrogen at all. I don't know why you test boomers are so defensive about this.

>>76920824
agression and rage are not the same thing though. The rage that causes people to beat up their GF or whatever is like 9 times out of 10 due to high e2 in test users.

>>76920450
But what about the "minimum 2:1 test to deca ratio" ?
I was afraid I was gonna get ed, but also a little drop in my libido wouldn't hurt. Instead I'm super horny now, is my deca phony??

>>76920884
500 to 300 is pretty much a 2 to 1 ratio autist

>>76920887
I was told 2:1 was the MINIMUM to avoid deca dick, not
>do 2:1 maybe 1,5:1 and you might even get hornier not less horny
I'm actually considering switching to like 400 test 350 deca to see if it balances out

>>76920824
it literally doesn't though - testosterone is associated with less irritability and more calmness

>>76920892
There are no hard and fast rules like that in reality. Some guys can run like 100 test 500 deca and feel great.

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How much extra mass does deca pile on?

I'm interested because i had to run a corticosteroid course that rekt bone density and deca is meant to be good for that. But i'm generally quite happy with my size, near enough constantly maintain my near natty peak and only once every few years do a test course to keep things fresh and have a bit of a push.

>>76920957
I would consider it to be like test but 1.5x power mg for mg.

It doesn’t immediately give you strength gains like test does but your rate of building muscle will be faster imo

>>76920807
>Does that include insulin too, retard?
You know what I'm talking about. Yes insulin is a peptide but this is in the context of shit you can buy on grey market peptide sites. Don't play dumb.

>>76920320
i think you may have a kink of some sort

>>76921223
people who self harm for sexual satisfaction are mentally unhinged
thats why i harm women for my own pleasure

>>76921213
No retard, you made a dumb statement and now you're trying to be vague. Which ones specifically are placebo? Which one didn't originate in a lab? Do.you think the chinks are sitting around synthesizing peptides at random and hoping someone buys them?

>>76920807
The lasers are really chill. They burn dots into your face for like 30 minutes, you have the dots for like a week or two and then for like years you look so good

>>76921307
not him but you are a faggot. This is not debate club anons are allowed to be vague.

The spirit of what he is talking about has to do with peptides being shilled super hard. Like we knew about melanotan 10 years ago or something. Now every zoomer is on melanotan. Why? Well its because people figured out that peptides are one of the highest profit margin things to shill. You have a grey market that keeps out big corporations from compoeting. So every social media fag can reap those borderline illegal profits. Its clearly driven by MONEY not the results of studies or whatever.

>>76921428
There's not exactly a lot of studies going for most anabolic androgenic compounds, does that stop you from using them?

>>76921428
Nta, if you actually tried these peptides they most definitely not placebo. I got a full blown tan in a mont, tanning once a week for 10 minutes. Reta works, makes cutting a breeze. I had an upper pec tear heal in two weeks on tB 500.

You’re just hipster faggot mad about products on the market.

>>76921475
you are missing the point. I am not using roids because someone found out they can make huge money by shilling them to me and its semi legal to do so.

>>76921492
I never said it didnt work retarded faggot. I said its popular because the grey market exists and it offers an incredible shilling opportunity for acceptably low risk. If half of your peptides were not grey market and were straight up illegal nobody would do them.

>>76921514
I don’t see the problem here. It’s dogshit cheap, the black market sells peptides for 1/10 of the price of the grey market. We’re on a gear thread, its not shilling anything. Reta completely removes fatigue of running tren for instance. Shit works.

What are you so angry about faggot?

>>76921514
>I am not using roids because someone found out they can make huge money by shilling them to me and its semi legal to do so.

>Peptides are being shilled hard
Yes, this is very obvious, no-one is interested in debating that.

So either you are saying they:

>don't work because there's a grey market that is heavily shilling these products

Which can co-exist with the claim that all or some peptides work.

or:

>You shouldn't take them because we don't have enough studies to verify whether they work
Which applies quite readily to a lot of the shit in the anabolic androgenic realm as well.

So which is it?

>>76920892
The problem with deca dick is that the phenomenon is so ingrained in bodybuilding community people sometimes convince themselves they have it, the placebo effect can be really strong

Guy goes on a cycle, does everything right then one night he's struggling to get it up with a chick (which could be due to any number of reasons:too drunk, molly, underslept, girl just isn't hot enough to get him going, too much porn etc) and immediately goes OH NO I HAVE DECA DICK

Believe it or not from my (anecdotal) experience, half the guys on deca will get deca dick and that's often irrespective of their dose/ratio

If you're really paranoid you can do what some people i know did and switch to NPP so that god forbid one night you can't get it up, just throw the nandrolone vial in the trash, never inject it again, clear it out in a week and announce to the whole internet that it gave you deca dick

>>76921541
I don't know what you are talking about. UGLs all sell peptides at ripoff prices. You have to deal with chinese to get good prices.

I am mad at the fags who cannot into nuance or inductive reasoning. I am not mad that peptides exist. There are just a million zoomers pinning copper peptides and wasting a lot of money.

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>>76921551
People get deca dick because retarded facebook boomers refuse to use AI. Then their estrogen is sky high, then their prolactin slowly goes sky high then boom. Fucked. Normal in line estrogen is perfectly fine.

>>76921549
lol what the fuck are you smoking. Not saying any of that shit. I am saying the tail is wagging the dog. The grey market status itself is more responsible for the amount of adoption than the efficacy itself.

If GHK-CU was ILLEGAL and in the same category as tren would any of these tik tok zoomers be using it? No they would not.

>>76921559
I dont see people getting mad at trt fags wasting 300 dollars a month for 5 dollars of test a month. I don’t see people getting mad at the oral faggots asking for pharma enclo, a dogshit way to slightly boost test.


Be happy zoomers are wasting money on just peptides, means less people running roids.

can someone redpill me on winstrol? I'm planning on my first real cut for springtime and might throw it in for the last 4-6 weeks but I'm not sure what makes it so good for cutting.

>>76921565
You know what anon, i agree. Most of em are very minor. The gh derivatives are shit, all minor stuff.
>tren
For all of the memes surrounding tren, I genuinely rarely find a guy willing to run it. I’m the only guy in my large group of roiders who runs it.

>>76921609
I am running it because of TikTok reels telling me it is awesome.

>>76921564
That's not necessarily true because nandrolone also has progestin activity, there are guys popping asin like pez and still getting deca dick

Although if that is the case you can try to counteract deca dick with caber (as some guys have been succesful with)

>>76921614
Let me guess 200mg, kek

>>76921565
>. I am saying the tail is wagging the dog
That's just restating what I already addressed:

>don't work because there's a grey market that is heavily shilling these products

Which can co-exist with the claim that all or some peptides work.

Are you finished wheedling down your point to: >zoomers are using peptides and someone's making money out of it

Or would you like to continue coming up with silly phrases?

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>>76921616
I know personally three guys running a deca cycle with a npp kickstart. All of em just use asin and are just fine.

I’ve personally done npp, and alot of tren. I havent used prami or caber for 3 years, I think its 100% faggots not having a good ai schedule.

If I just need to lower estrogen by half, would 12.5 mg aromasin 2 times a weeks after pinning test enough for that?

>>76921736
Asin is suicidal and will get the job done, just be careful not to crash it too much but 2x/wk should be fine

>>76920296
>pinning more test than deca
lel

only peptides worth taking:
gh
bpc-157
thymosin β-4
tirzepatide
pt-141
insulin
igf-1 lr3

>>76922429
And cjc+ ipamorelin
See>>76920179

>>76922448
doesn't do anything

>>76922448
not really worth taking compared to gh, cjc *maybe*
also fwiw pinning gh directly doesn't reduce your body's ability to produce gh, it bounces back almost immediately after stopping

>>76922429
>pt-141
useless on roids, your sexual desire is already high enough

>>76919087
Anon... You're very handsome

>>76911612
>Just dodge the veins.
I literally had no issue doing that until this morning you nigger jinxed me, a singular stream of blood down to my hip then immediately stopped. FEEL GOOD THOUGH

Redpill me on pt-141. Is it effective or jeet placebo like ZMA and ashwganda.

>>76922970
Its easier when you’re low enough bf to see the veins in your lats. Even worse tho is hitting a vein with tren. Death coughing for three minutes followed by weird euphoria.

>>76921602
Remember joeaesthetics and the way the muscle fibres twitch? It brings that out if you have the muscle and are lean. Its reallt fucking cool. You will be sat between sets whole body fibres just flicking and spazing out delts chest arms its a really cool drug for the look it gives.

>>76923193
The strength from winny is great too, combined with dbol its like anti matter and makes heavy weights feel easy asf, cuts on the water bloat from dbol too.

>>76923184
I was coughing in general because I am coming down with a cold and it was tren but I feel great.

>>76923263
Tren cough seems to happen only scar tissue for me. If I hit a fresh spot nothing happens.

Do I need Clomid/Nolva if I am going to cruise with Test after a Dbol cycle for 6weeks?

>>76922191
Thats what everyone says you should do. 2 to 1 test to deca ratio. Why are you green texting instead of explaining how you are smarter than conventional wisdom or what is wrong in terms of the endocrinology

>>76923184
The weird euphoria is your body realizing you aren’t about to die lol. Tren cough is pretty bad, it’s the only thing that made me consider quitting tren

>>76921602
If you are low body fat, makes you look shredded and hard/grainy as fuck. Good for strength. Some say it’s bad for joints but that never happened to me. One of the best pre contest bodybuilding steroids. The downside is it can make your hair fall out. It’s the only steroid that has ever affected my hair. If you aren’t competing then 25-50mg a day is plenty

>>76923339
I don't understand the question. are you saying that taking test for 6 weeks and tapering the dose down is going to suffice as your pct? Because nah it won't work. But obviously you don't need the clomid while you are on test

>>76923209
Yeah this is another good point, it stacks really well with dbol and even anadrol. You can do nothing and add winny and within a week have the fibres visibly spazzing and twitching if your lean its that sweet. Injectable is good put painful if in water havent tried oil winny yet.

>>76923383
Everything I am seeing about Dbol cycle ends with PCT but if I am running dbol with a test base and i cruise after the 6wks of Dbol I don’t do the PCT Clo/Nolva bullshit right?

>>76923427
lol just use testosterone as pct. Why didn't I think of that

Could I run 25mg sustanon ED plus 30mg deca M/W/F long term? Never done more than TRT, currently on 175 sust a week. Mostly seeking relief for a herniated disc that is fucking me up.

>>76923098
Yes it is effective.
>>76922521
It modulates sexual desire through non-androgenic pathways so the effects can compound

Going down memory lane and saw some btc transactions to Yellowbot back from 2014, checked history and thought other geezers would think it's neat that he cashed out a single wallet with what would be ~17 mil now from slingin DNP. Sucks to hear he started scamming later on. Stay safe stay swoll

>>76910643
What is the point of injectable dianabol? Isn't it just test that you can ingest?

>>76913186
I'm a tech CEO and B&C makes me get infinitely more respect from men and women. I went from a skinny nerd to a superchad millionare because my employees and clients only respect me more. It's all the intangibles people don't consider when taking gear.

>>76923905
tis the prophecy of most DNM or clearnet vendors, exit scams happen 60% of the time, then 30% get raided, 10% shut down of their own accord

>>76924105
livin the dream....i'm a burned out senior player coach/code monkey that can't get over himself to even think about what i need to do to get into management, even though that's probably 60% of my week. shit or get off the pot? no, apparently i say. halp!

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>>76924105
I'm a chairperson (tech CEO's boss) and cycling gets me infinity +1 more respect from men, women and children, because they don't notice any physique changes off gear due to running reasonable cycles, they only see a gigachad billionaire that's perpetually fitter and bigger than everyone who doesn't make it their profession to be fit and big.

>>76924356
cope

>>76923842
What's it like?

pinned my armpit and blood started pouring out when i pulled the needle out
am i cooked?

>>76924411
>am i cooked?
Yes, but not from the pin, you're just retarded. Sorry to break it to you anon.

>>76924411
you pulled your cork out! quick! put it back!

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>>76924034
Anyone????

>>76923842
How do you avoid the headache?

Why is supply so bad right now, even on the basics like test? Is it just Christmas?

>>76924596
real, my main site went down, then my backup site went down, then my backup backup didnt send btc address yet and the main site came back so im happy

why does my source sell oxytocin? is there some forbidden gear knowledge I dont know?

I hav3 fucked levels already and just want to put on mass, doesnt have t9 be 100% lean. whats the best stack for this?

>>76923378
>>76923209
>>76923193
Is oral winny fine then? why add more pins?

>>76912394
Don’t blast DHT steroids for years.
Dont smoke cigarettes or do absurd amounts of “extracurriculars”.
Dont fry your liver.
Don’t abuse GH to a silly amount (when you get off of it, which you will have to, what’s left if you go crazy with gh? Loose skin).
>TLDR; Don’t always bounce off your body’s redline or stay at 5000 RPM years long, it’s a great way to burn an engine out.
You aren’t going open BB (if you were, you wouldn’t be wasting your time on this miserable place).

Looking to run test/npp/var, 600/300/50 after new years. Anyone run a similar cycle? I've tried a bunch of compounds but never fucked with NPP

>>76924755
Drop the var, add mast, eq or primo. Start low on the npp or better off do tren ace instead.

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Wanna switch to pinning daily. Test Prop or Test Ace?

>>76924687
deca/test/gh/slin with an ai, would be my guess. though lots say 2:1 test:deca, but others argue muh golden age. seems more like Individual response varies

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Tonights the night…

>>76924105
Doesn't matter. You're indian

>>76924693
Yeah its fine but injectable is better even though its literally the same drug. Its just tiny bit more potent and extents the halflife if injected.

>>76924536
So injectable versions of oral steroids are just slightly more potent with less sides and longer lasting half life. Ive done injectable winstrol dbol anadrol and superdrol. All really good. Injectable superdrol is fucking insane. Jesus christ I wish it wasnt so toxic as the fullness of that is unmatched.

>>76924926
I saw a meme about Ace before, so that one. :D

>>76925259
>>76925269
injectable winstrol is retarded, you still have to pin it everyday and it hurts like hell

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>>76925252
Lol I am very white brother

>>76925734
>t. italian shitskin cosplayinf

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I'm going to cum

>>76915563
>16 months in the gym
>already roiding
>nigger can't comprehend how insulin resistance works (you can't see it with your eyes hence it cannot exist)
Is your papa perhaps a sibling to your mother, or did you just come out a bit too early from the womb?

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>>76925734
>blasting and cruising for this

>>76926019
I don't believe diabetes is real either because if I have it has no effect on me

I lifted for 2 years in high school and another year when I was like 20, then I did like a year of psychotic barehanded heavybag training when I was 25, now I'm 32 and I'm bodybuilding instead of strength training, 16 months back in

so altogether I'd say 4 years of weightlifting training total

I legitimately think diabetes is a cope for lazy people because I am still a fat fuck and I just choose to believe it doesn't exist and it has no effect on me

my dad actually came out as a homosexual a few years ago, divorced my mom and is stealing her money after being disabled from brain cancer for 27 years, he's a useless fuck and I dislike him and no longer speak to him, it was pretty obvious he was gay and I could tell when I was like 12 years old but it is what it is

also most brothas in here say my sarm stack isn't even roiding brotha

>>76925734
Based
>>76926027
He looks better than 90% of guys running gear and 100% better than natties lmao

>>76925269
Ok. But I thought dbol was just oral test. So if I'm already going to pin, why not just pin test C?

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>>76923399
Both are painful, injectables ain't worth it desu. The small amount of extra bioavailability is not worth the hassle of injecting.
>>76923498
>90mg
Even a sports doctor would put you at least at 150mg of deca a week.
>>76924596
Have you been living under a rock? 90% of the raw suppliers were raided, add onto that the harsher package restrictions from china means at least 40% of packages get checked.
>>76924890
Based stack suggestion. Test Prop Mast Prop Tren Ace is such a classic.
>>76925269
Like the other anon said, it's only slightly better. The hit to liver is almost the same, unless you want a quick hit right before you workout. The oral is simpler, cheaper.

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>>76926148
It's not, just pin Test C. Then use ORAL DBOL and have fun.

>>76926148
im with you bro I would just use test but I think a big reason why people use dbol is A) because muh golden age and B) or they are wanting it to be converted into estrogen because you are taking a bunch of EQ or whatever. Might be more hair safe than using test in this role or something.

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>>76926158
>>76926160
Ok. I've never run oral drugs b4. But I'm thiggin about buying some dbol tablets and just hitting a few every workout day while running a test/mast base.
I've heard about powerlifters doing something similar with anadrol. But I don't wanna be a powerlifter.

>>76926285
im getting dbol delivered in a week (probably) if u want a live update ill be doing 12.5mg twice a day (morning and night) for 5 weeks

>>76926119
>He looks better than 90% of guys running gear and 100% better than natties lmao

That wasn't under dispute, it was the fact he stays on roids 365 days a year that's funny

>>76926387
Nothing wrong with that…

>>76926285
even powerlifters are mainly using anavar these days for lower sides.

>>76926285
>>76926316
for some reason i respond horribly to dbol, it just gives me crippling cramps. no water retention or bloating and no strength increase.

>>76926387
I cruise most of the year with great bloods and great blood pressure at 30. I'm good dude, if you genuinely think PCTing is a good idea, you're just exposing yourself as a retard.

>>76926114
Alright anon fair enough. Good luck with the BB journey.

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>>76926425
You could literally cycle for the same result without suppressing your endocrine system to the same extent, or running the risk of long term lipid and cardiovascular problems. This is what any reasonably rational and health conscious individual would do, so either you are stupid, androphilic or terrified of losing your muscle mass/definition, but you are a much bigger retard if you think b&c is necessary or even desirable for a physique of your proportions

>>76926584
>t. natty
Coulda just said that. Why do you shit up these threads and just spout what you read on reddit? Nothing you said is true, genuinely.

>>76926643
He’s right you know.

>>76926584
Dog. Just donate blood and you'll be fine

>>76926584
Retarded. You’re a natty listening to bodybuilders lie and bullshit on podcasts. Thats the depth of your knowledge and experience lmao.
>>76926670
Another retarded natty. Why do flood these threads with shit info lmao

>>76926584
>source
>I made it up

I CANT DEAL WITH THE ACNE IM GOING ON FUCKING ACCUTANE BROS

When I have a heart attack or aneurysm from all the annoying useless drivel everyone keeps yapping to me about will I have time to tell them to fucking kill themselves before I flatline?

>>76912394
Anabolics vs androgens

>>76926316
I'd pay attention to that update

Does anyone else feel like they barely get anything from 500 mg test? I'm only a little stronger than I was natty, and my total test was trashed at 230 ng/dL. But I hear about people making turbo gains with less all the time. Up the dose to a gram?

>>76927774
i'll tell them for you, big dawg. blast on

>>76927865
If your test was 230 before then you have some kind of HPTA dysfunction. Pretty sure I have a similar situation. Lack of or shitty androgen receptors or something

>>76927915
I was thinking something along those lines too. I was thinking of running a SARMs experiment of some kind but I don't know shit about them.

>>76926584
>androphilic
lmao just take the girly pills bro

what is the best ai tool to devise a good cycle?

>Surely the night sweats of trenbelone users must be exaggerated it can’t be that bad
oh…
>>76927852
I will do it but probably every other day updates depending on thread activity since I lurk here all day at work.
>>76927886
Thanks homie I am getting sick of it.

>>76927416
Low dose works amazing.

>>76911165
You are not going to the gym, yet you use gear? That is ghey. 27g 5/16" ventraglute. Did you wipe the vial and inj point? No. That is why your ass hurts. That and the AIDS.

>>76915350
Why would you make any decision based on what a woman thinks? You are the prize. You are the center. Women are everywhere and give you anything if you are just better than most men who do nothing to care for themselves.

>>76920763
When your T goes up, E is along for the ride. You need some E but too much stomps boners and makes cold hands and bitchy thoughts. Be aware of your signs for high E, you will learn yours. A pinch of Anastrzole kills E sides in a hour, use just enough to get the result as needed, don't overdo. A milder method I have not tried but Dr recommended is DIM. The key to this is to be consistent and turn one knob at a time until you are feeling good and minimal sides.

>>76921551
If 5mg of Cialis won't raise the dead, 10 will. It's not complicated.

test makes me SO FUCKING SORE. other gear at way higher doses doesn't do this to me.

>>76928485
I got aromasin I got it somewhat dialed in for now.

>>76928555
Nothing wrong with regular blood work but AI is by feelings. Feels. Your body will tell you if you are listening. Why are you sore? Review medical injection protocol and hygiene and pin ventrogluteal muscle. Wipe the vial and you skin with alcohol.

>>76928573
I’m just not gonna do all that. I only get sore when I workout my lats same day I pin. AI is good enough I will do blood work soonTM.

>>76928382
Yeah I stopped the cycle. Feeling like absolute shit to the point I was having night sweats, fevers, unable to sit or drive, couldn't gym or eat. More than undid the point of a cycle. Trying to sort out lower concentration with atlas given reddit shilled them but they're useless if not outright a scam.

>>76928166
Gemini is really good. Give it all the data you can.

thinking about starting a tbol+var 8 week cycle, thoughts? also how hair-safe is it if i use dutasteride. i've heard var is hair-safe but also a dht-derivative so dut won't counteract it so i'm confused.

>>76928573
>Why are you sore? Review medical injection protocol and hygiene and pin ventrogluteal muscle. Wipe the vial and you skin with alcohol.
if you're responding to >>76928554 which is me, then I do that. I don't get sore at the injection site except from carnitine. test makes my muscles weak and achy.

>>76910643
>old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index
this was clearly written by someone with no medical knowledge or even real experience presenting information which gives people a false sense of knowledge and control, leading them to make incredibly risky decisions.

if you aren't getting second and third opinions from licensed physicians on a safe (safest) approach to this, you're an idiot.

if you aren't traveling to a country where this is legal so you can have a physician prescribe and monitor this, you're an idiot.

if you can't afford that, you shouldn't be doing it at all. just stay natty. this shit can permanently fuck you up or kill you.

>>76929194
Yeh brah n sqwatz r bad 4ur nes

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>>76929194
>my hecking science and my hecking doctors

faggot doctors don't know shit. Doctors have to ask roiders about what best practices are, not the other way around. The risk averse never make it in any endeavor.

>>76929209
retard thought process

https://youtu.be/0T-v9sZXQdM?t=48

>>76929249
Doctors were giving 100% terrible and wrong advice on sneed oils and the food pyramid that fucked up the health of the country. Doctors were performing lobotomies on people in your parents lifetime. Doctors are fucking retarded faggots and I would choose to listen to any well reasoned 4chan post or comment from a jacked gym bro over the opinion of a doctor.

You are mentally a woman and thats why you can't do anything but suck the dick of state approved authority figures. kys

>>76929258
all that gear and you're still an insecure bitch

My Doctor asks me for roid and cycle reccs because my biceps and bloodwork are bigger/better than his.

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Why has /fraud/ become so filled with nattys larping? No legit frauder, especially one that comes to an obscure and niche forum like this, would ever recommend PCTing lmfao.

>>76929777
I don’t know but I fully agree. The only reason I’m not permablasting right now is that I’ve changed my definition of what counts as permablasting

>>76929777
because they all died

>>76929777
Idk if 250mg twice a week is better than just doing 500mg once a week and im too afraid to ask…

>>76911111
get and still no answer

>>76929863
You should pin as often as you reasonably can. I pin every morning. It takes me about the same amount of time as brushing my teeth

>>76929867
That means pinning 84 times over a period of 12 weeks. Doesn't that cause injury and tissue scarring over time due to so many needle holes?

>>76929911
diabetics do it so can I. If you are doing 500 test a week thats easily done with a 29g insulin needle its going to come to something like 40 insulin units.

>>76929911
27G or smaller and rotate sites and you'll be fine. Pinning EOD changed my life with E2 and everything.

>men will do anything but therapy

>>76929867
Well I guess I am thinking about it like regular drugs, like say taking 1g of Coke in 1 line will fuck you up at a 10 for a little while and redose in a week to a 10, versus say 170mg lines will fuck you up at a 3 for a while then you can re-up to a 3 every day for a week. Do I get more out of a 500mg Test injection once a week versus a 250mg twice a week? Like is the higher peak worth the valleys when a more level average peak with the 250mg better overtime?

>>76930200
steady levels are better bro

>>76929209
this is correct

>>76930217
Ok just wanted to clarify because I was getting reddit responses when looking it up across multiple sites saying "AH GEEZ BRO 250MG IS KIND OF HIGH YOU WANT TO DO AT MOST 100MG A WEEK"

>>76930241
yeah redditfags have no balls. If you want to optimize longevity then titrate down to lowest effective dose like 120ish. If you want to optimize being a yolked brickhouse then go up as high as you can without getting sides and nuking your BP or cholesterol.

>>76930277
BP is being controlled, wish it was better but I don't care enough to care more, cholesterol is a nothingburger happenstance. Hopefully I have a heart attack and can yell nigger as I fade to black.

>>76929777
Because frauding is actually really simple and straightforward. You pin your test, whatever compound for e2 control, gh. That's basically your gym bro cycle. Do you want to be edgy? add tren, ment, dhb, superdrol but you don't need that shit.
Nattycucks just think 200mg test will turn them into superman.Or are afraid of pinnin so they take meme orals and sarms.

>>76929911
Kek. I remember when I thought pinning 7 times a week was a lot. Usually around 17 pins a week for me right now.

>>76930312
Why does everyone think dhb is some super strong compound. I’ve ran it like five times and it’s about as anabolic as test but super dry. It’s like primo or mast but it actually adds decent mass. It’s nothing like tren or superdrol sides wise.

>>76930500
dhb melts your kidneys.

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Am I balding or is this normal?

>>76930757
nigga i natty and am worse than that

Clen is doing jackshit

Day 7 3rd Tren pin updates:
Haven’t really gotten a full workout in yet due to being sick and being overworked at my job, I am sore. Definitely feel great though mentally and physically muscles are popping and I have been easily doing lower weight workouts. I also look great. 500 test 200 tren DBOL SOON I GOT TRACKING! Asin been doing once a week but once the dbol comes I will bump that up.

if I take 200mg of test can I cut super fucking hard and not lose muscle? Or does it take way more roids than that? I could add in some deca but thats all I have is test and deca and don't feel like buying more shit just for cutting

>>76931874
Yes. Just don't fast more than 36 hours and only eat protein for a bit and you won't lost muscle. I've been on a recomp on 300mg test and 150mg primo for a few months, and occasionally, I just dont eat for 24-36 hours, then only eat 1000 calories of all protein for the next following days.

I have lost no muscle and just shred wait, no reta or anything needed. You do piss out glycogen pretty quickly, but carb up and drink water on a refeed and the size will come back without the fat.

This was me a few days ago >>76925734

>go to target to buy shit for Christmas
>walking out of the store
>see fat mexican bitch walking in front of me
>she just discards her shopping basket instead of putting it in the bay
>I tell her to get back over here and put her shit up
>she starts taking it and then says “you don’t work here” then stops
>I call her fat and lazy
>she is visibly about to cry
>get in my car and my face is purple because of rage

Yep it’s time to take an AI. If it had been a dude I would have almost for sure fought him

>>76932059
hell yeah looking good. Glad to know what I am planning can work I plan to be looking like your cousin after this cut.

>>76931874
Unless you're huge huge or getting to stage lean you shouldn't be losing muscle on any kind of cut where you get enough protein. Psmf and Lyle McDonald's RFL both work with very little to no muscle loss and psmf is literally like a ~600kcal diet

>>76932257
I like roid rage stories because it reminds me to try and be calm every time I am about to chimp out and break something.

>>76932257
>>76932673
Never had roid rage, if anything test keeps me relaxed and calm. Even on a blast, you niggers doing something wrong

>>76932684
Ok but I am on tren and I want to fucking break my phone from stupid fucking nigger fat bitches being FAGGOT RETARDS and my already-broken phone keyboard texting people (BY ITSELF) I haven't spoken to in months RANDOM STRINGS OF LETTERS LIKE XYCCMMCMACMMACM.

>>76932684
It’s usually e2 levels.

I’m taking HCG for the first time and I’m pretty sure it makes you aromatize a lot more and that’s why I’m raging.

>>76932690
Maybe get a new phone? Also, I never got rage from anything including tren but I'm a mature mid 40's dude. Probably would have been wild in my 20's (was already crazy back then).

>>76933089
How about about you fucking kill yourself.

>>76932863
HCG will make you produce E2 directly (outside of aromatization), which can complicate your AI schedule. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

>>76932690
I feel you, I'm normally very calm and controlled but tren makes me want to break things and kick my wife out. I can't use it unless I'm looking for a divorce.

>>76930556
Lol. Lmao even. Go back to reading your rabbit studies natty.

>>76932690
I hope you’re on more than 400 mg tren because up until that dose I’m more chill than usual.