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>>76918806Broccoli helps ya poop
>>76918806Okay so why doesn't any of the heart disease or longevity research even done by health insurance show that?
Simple ruleYou can eat it raw from a healthy plant or animal and digest it fully and not die = foodYou need to cook it in any form despite coming from a healthy source =not food
>>76918815Why do we need "research" to determine what is and isn't food? All apex food chain species are carnivores because why wouldn't they be? All species period strive to be carnivores. Herbivore is a suboptimal choice suboptimal species make when they're too small or too large to hunt effectively, nobody is willingly a herbivore. Sorry, nobody except retarded fucking white people.
>>76918827cute bait, almost got me
>>76918820You can eat broccoli raw btw.
>>76918827We don't "need it" but it should at least agree with reality if we're interpreting reality correctly. The fact that it doesn't is the issue. Which means your appraisal of reality is deeply flawed.
>>76918833Explain why an apex species would bother with plants, ever. Plant require more energy and extra organs to digest (like rumen in cows) and they're nutritionally destitute compared to meat and full of defensive toxins. Gorillas spend 90% of their lives eating cause they eat plantshit. Humans would die if they tried subsisting on wild plants, shit you buy at the groceries was crossbred for thousands of years to be kinda sorta edible.
>>76918852Do it and report back. Matter of fact try surviving on it.
>>76918806The left is a piece of a chopped up human or animal body, possibly a pet dog or from an endangered elephant. It's not food.
>>76918890Dogs should be used as food and I'm tired of pretending there's anything wrong with that
>>76918890I want to give vegans my meat if you catch my drify
>>76918806
>>76918862It's less cute when you try again
>>76918806>Steak Tartare>Roasted broccoli Delicious
>>76918820So potatoes arent food?
>>76918827>Why do we need "research" to determine what is and isn't food?kek
>>76918820By that logic most animals meat isn't healthy. Humans have been cooking food for tens of thousands of years; possibly longer. Our immune and digestive systems evolved alongside our tendency to cook things. Eating raw food is for animals. I, being a human, cook my food.
>>76919312Do not reason with ketoschizo
>>76919312Name 5 meat animals that are inedible hard mode: don't name some exotic ass blobfish that lives in 2 places on Earth
>>76919086Yes>>76919312>He never had steak tartare, sushi, sashimi or any non-cooked preserved animal product in his life
>>76919431>He's never eaten a raw slug or snail.
>>76919413>do thing but with my rulesNo thanks fatass
>>76919611I dont hear any examples
>>76918806Friendly reminder that the people who espouse this mindset never post their body.That is all.
>>76919413>What is 2 plus 2? And don't tell me 4
>>76919663>No body posted.>Token vegan mention out of nowhere.Thanks for proving my point. You have a good day now.
>...and the natural lifter telling you to eat beef and eggs
>the Vince spammer>right on schedule
>trust da basedence goy!>*dies*
>mogs half of /fit/ at 82>doesnt even lift>just a sweet ranching lady that knows what food is
>meanwhile vegans have to jump on gear for even mediocre gains that are achievable natty>this is if they have the time to workout if they aren't busy whipping out their iphone to record their dying grandpa for youtube
>dyel who won't post body endlessly spamming other peoples bodies after getting called outOof
>carnivore neurosurgeon who barely has time to work out anymore>inb4 post ur own bodyNah, and I've done it before, you just run away and wait to shitup a new thread Moxyte.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4izuk_3fex8You'll never find carnichads like this. Ever wonder why?
>hes still at it
>being so weak a leaf destroys your body>chadPick one
Does ketosis cause mental illness? Does the lack of energy for the brain simply snap your shit up?Why are all keto people mentally ill
>and here we see the fearful lion, effeminately and unfairly subduing his innocent vegan victim>if the lion had any courage at all, he would be eating leaves and ruminating the fields of grass>but instead he perpetuates toxic carnitivity and probably causes global warming too>quite the antisemitic feline
>Ancient humans often painted their experience onto cave walls>But many must be mistaken, since every single painting depicts hunting animals with weapons>truly the bows, arrows, and spears were for harvesting broccoli>and dont forget our trusty canine companions, domesticated for their abillity to help till the broccoli fields, or find wild patches of non-existant brassicas
>>76919662>Hey dude can you list 5 irrational numb....> WHAT ABOUT 2+2 RIGHTS YOU WHOLEINTEGERPHOBIC SCUM
So is the whole thread just one histrionic schizo or what?
>>76919413>98% of plants and fungi result in poisoning and high likelyhood of death99% of animals are fully edible with just a few exceptionsOnly things I can think of are dart frogs, fugu, and specifically polar bear liver. Meanwhile my local supermarket sells rhubarb which has been documented to kill people in the past, and virtually every single plant in my backyard except for a couple of weeds would make sick, be completely devoid of any energy, and possibly kill me. If I go on a walk, the only naturally occuring food I could eat are the wild turkeys, deer and rabbits.
>>76919729Hit the nail on the head. Never engage with ketoschizo or he'll samefag nonstop for three days.
>Ah yes humans. The homosapien. Perfectly adapted as an apex predator. The human is faster and stronger than any of its prey, even the nimble gazelle can't outsprint him! And with its perfectly sharp teeth, humans are indeed the perfect meat eat-
>>76919753Humans hunt with spears, javelins, bows and other tools. Not sharp pointy teeth. Also a self own because our jaws lock and cant grind transversly like the herbivorous animal in your picture.
>>76918827>nobody is willingly a herbivore. Sorry, nobody except retarded fucking white people.I know this is probably bait, but all this veganism crap comes from india (as comes your dna)
>>76918814Brother, I have ibs, i need no help with that. I shat 6 times yesterday.
>>76919763Take it for a ride horse teeth.
You're more than welcome to attempt to eat like other distantly related apes, but that does entail eating your own shit and also a functioning cecum. At least the former you're quite used to based on these threads we've been having.
>>76919773>Mogs everyone on a diet of fruit and leavesbro we need to go back
>>76919773>not eating shit Missing on all that probiotic my dude
>>76919784You can't synthesize protien from carbs, he can.
>>76919773>>76919784What if we... surgically replace our appendix with a full-size caecum? Could we then grow huge on leaves?
>>76919892Your stomach, liver and kidneys would still be maladapted to plants
>>76919784>Gorillas spend a huge chunk of their day eating, often 6 to 8 hours or even half their day>A large male can eat 18-30 kg (40-55 lbs) of leaves, stems, and shoots daily.Enjoy eating like its a full time job
>>76919892How do you feel about multi pass through digestion?Yes it's exactly what you're thinking.
>>76919882which is why we have to go back
>>76919902>Enjoy eating like its a full time jobisn't that literally the life of literally 99.999% of animals?
>>76919723
the government says I love broccoli and that's why I cook the shit out of it and douse it in various sauces and seasonings the government also says I am a real woman by the way
>>76920078>i eat raw unseasoned fish, country and chicken for all my meals
>>76919312>tens of thousands of yearsLol, try hundreds of thousands of years, likely over a million
>wake up>should i eat soft tasty meat?>no this root will do, dig in bro
>>76919770You are an idiot
>>76918827>fucking white peopleRent free
>>76918806Food, cancer and food, anticancer
Got broccoli soaked in garlic sauce from a Chinese place, it was mid so I seethed and put it in the fridge. The next day after marinating it tasted amazing.
>>76921106Next day Chinese is great
>>76921103>this magical flower cures my cancer praise basedence
>>76919729yep, moxyte can't rest until he's proven that broccoli is the only food humans should eat
>everyone who disagrees with me is some redditor who doesn't even post here anymore
>>76918814green flowers aren't food
>>76923014Anti-planties never post body
>>76918806It should be >Talmud>Not Talmud
Schizo thread
>there are levels of survival we are willing to accept
>>76919413beef, chicken, duck, deer, rabbit. off the top of my head>but i can eat all of thoseorly? so you killed the animal, cut the meat out, and ate it raw?
>the broccoli is bad for you gang are the same as Paltrow fans and crystal healing girlies.Imagine that
>>76923465Are you retarded, pal? Yes, all of these are edible raw.
>>76919753I have fangs you queer. Its not my fault you went to the dental jew and got braces so you could be domesticated cattle like most of population.
Broccoli didnt even exist until about 1500 years ago. It isnt even a real food, it is a human abomination from artificially selected traits in a shitty weed, a weed that even ruminants would not eat.Technically broccoli isn't food for every single species on the planet. At least when you artificially select animals their meat barely changes, maybe you get some extra intramuscular fat and that's it.
>>76924186We selectively bred animals too you know
>>76924936He knows he's just anti-plant and repeating carni-grifter talking points. Imagine knowing factually this wasn't around even 150 years ago and trying to dunk of broccoli lol.
>>76924956No one eats that
>>76924985>Nobody eats the typical factory-farmed cow pumped full of hormones to radically increase fat mass and muscle mass, because that's what people actually like to eatI accept your concession since your reaction is to just straight up lie.
>>76924936And that was addressed. Something like Broccoli turns into even more starch and sugar and less fiber. It's almost a fruit, but with many of the downsides of a vegetable. No animal has evolved to eat this.>>76924956Still better to eat that, closer to our evolutionary past than a bastard mustard plant. Also you can just eat normal grass finished cows free of hormones, Bison or Yaks, but they really aren't very different. The beef I get doesn't even get vaccinated.On the topic, cattle ranchers also warn against feeding cows mustard plants and broccoli, as you will get goiters and growth defects.
>>76925148>Still better to eat thatThen make that argument and substantiate it rather than using a biased argument about how X plants are man made and weren't around X years ago.
>>76924986He's correct. They look like this.And you can just opt out of growth hormone beef, not that it really matters.
>>76925157Just so were clear, you think that what is in your image was around X thousand years ago? Its a yes or no question, dont give me a diatribe.
>>76925150I did, right in the post where I made the claim. You just suffer from poor reading comprehension. A selectively bred cow is just never going to be that different from other cows. A selectively bred plant could go from a benign root or shitty weed to being as starchy as a tuber, or you could select a plant to be higher in oxalates, lectins or goitrogens in the case of broccoli.
>>76925158Livestock, you fucking moron. That's not a new idea.
>>76925164Alright since you won't answer the question and are pivoting I'll just leave you off here. Have a good one man.
>>76925163See, this is the sad part. You didn't actually substantiate it. You gave an anecdote about where you get your beef and how it's not vaccinated. Substantiate means give evidentiary proof for your position, Instead, in the very second sentence, you're just resorted to insults, which is the typical thing that people will do when they can't actually substantiate their positions. Since it's very clear that your position stems from information that you've heard secondhand and you don't actually have primary sources to back up anything you believe, I'm going to hide your posts and replies now since you're going to keep replying with angry rants and I Value my free time too much to read your endless screeds
>>76925158It is 99.999% similar to the flesh of other animals we ate. Broccoli is dissimilar to anything that any animal ate. There were no starchy goitrogenic plants throughout all of history. Not to mention, once again, most animals would not eat the weed it came from either.
>>76925173Not sure why you won't answer yes or no. Didn't read your post
>>76925169Do you want a peer reviewed study that "proves" there's farms with hormone free cows or something? Kek you really are a seething lil sperg. Cattle just isnt that different despite being artificially selected. Broccoli is wildly different from the mustard plant. You can just use your eyeballs, google scholar need not apply.
>>76925175I already said it, yes.
Aurochs were actually more swole than their modern counterparts, so perhaps the gigacow is arguably more evolutionarily consistent.If all of this really gets your gyno in a twist, you could just eat Bison.For vegans? I don't think there are any wild and kind of edible plants that werent selected for massively. I guess start eating dandelions? Maybe find some really fiberous roots from some wild plant? Doesn't sound very good.
>>76918814this but the opposite, since fiber slows down your intestine
>>76925760This is incorrect. Soluble fiber slows down transit time while insoluble fiber accelerates it.
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>>76925816>soluble fiber binds to food and disrupts digestion >insoluble fiber is treated as foreign object and expelled asapTruly vital "nutrients"
>>76926060Goalpost status: Moved
>>76918806continue with your life
>>76923465You can absolutely eat raw beef, deer and rabbit (steak tartare is literally just raw beef, plus if you eat your steak rare its basically still raw aside from the searing) Humans arent meant to eat birds in the first place hence we cant eat them raw.
>>76927933>Humans arent meant to eat birds in the first place hence we cant eat them raw.Be great if you could provide a source for this.
>>76927933We can eat anything raw if it's not infected with shitYou could eat raw chicken and be fine
Any omnivores here?Rise up bros
>>76928128Mogged into oblivion by carnivorous bears
>>76918814>I need to eat a mutated mustard plant in order to pass stool>most effective treatment for constipation is to reduce consumption of similar fibrous garbage
>>76918827We don't. Bio-availability is definitive proof of what a species should eat. For any species the foods to which it has best bio-availability are those it is adapted to eating. People denying this are like human pandas, eating garbage getting sick and going extinct.The purpose of the "studies" is to maintain brainwashing. We wouldn't have veganism or any other modern fad like that without decades of coordinated "research". Veganism is the culmination of all the saturated fat pseudo science started by proctor and gamble.
>>76928136I didnt say he wasn't right. It wasn't the topic of the post chain which is why I replied what I did. Didn't read the rest of your post since its likely just more upset screed. Learn to be less combative and thoroughly read post chains before replying. Not everything requires an insult laden vitriolic and tribal response.
>>76918806>OP>retardPick 2.
>>76918827>All apex food chain species are carnivoresLol have you heard of elephants? They'll fuck up your favourite carnivore.
>>76928137We wouldn't have carnivore either. We would be eating what we've been eating for thousands for years - a mix of both.
>>76928184And elephants arent apex predators you dumb shit kek, and also they're eaten by Lions. Having a giant herbivore that isn't predated on isn't proof they're the top of a food chain either, that not how that works. Jesus Christ this is like fifth grade level shit now, and you still fail.>>76928190And primarily and almost entirely meat until the agricultural revolution, as defined by trophic levels and extensice evidence of hunting local large ruminants and mammoths with tools. Don't bother with your pescitarian cope, we've been through this.Plus Lion packs do eat them.
moxy and the other frail discord vegans getting absolutely bodied itt. They need to regroup, spend a few hours trying to digest precious nutrients from their grainsludge to formulate counter arguments that aren't nonsensical and schizophrenic.
>>76928190mix of what? Meat and ...tubers? Seasonal fruits? Plantfags always struggle to list a single viable source of prehistoric plant-based nutrition
>>76928246It's just one mentally ill attention fag. Slow boards are more vulnerable to special needs individuals spamming one topic. He isn't even making positive claims of his own, just trying to shit on anything that goes against the mainstream nutrition science that told us to eat seed oils and sugar for 50 years.
>>76918827The master species eats both meat and veggies and tames animals you absolute retard
>>76918827I love how you science folks ignore one important fact: humans can do whatever because we're not part of the food chain. Something as soft, squishy, and socially retarded as us should never have evolved, as if evolution is actually a thing, and humans prove that. Enjoy your meat. Enjoy your veggies. Enjoy your grains. As soon as you categorize something as "bad," you have now turned it into poison because your mind has decided it is. The human mind is so powerful that sugar pills can cure disease if the patient believes it. What makes you think anything else in our reality would be essentially different? Quit making everything a waste and/or poison, express some genuine gratitude, and watch how your experience in life changes for the better.
>>76928315You can't be trans herbivore. You will never be a herbivore. You have but one stomach. You have no cecum. You have no enzymes to break down oxalates. You have a small large intestine. You can't digest cellulose. You can't derive B12 from plants. You can regurgitate on demand food to chew it more. You can't grind side to side with your teeth. You (hopefully) don't eat your own shit. Your stomach is acidic specifically for animal meat, about as acidic as a Lion's. Your evolutionary history as homo sapiens is entirely carnivorous, becoming top of every food chain on the planet, creating tools and forming language specifically to hunt large animals as a tribe.
>>76928201So if 20 5'3 indians pack together and kill you that makes them apex?
>>76928337Human's have been cooking food longer than we've been humanWe were cooking our food before we were even Homo Sapiansover a million years of cooking food before we eat it. But you expect us to have the same stomach as an ape that eats raw plantsYour brain needs some carbs
>>76919672Whoops meant to write 28
>>76918806But I can eat the green meat and not get sick.
>>76918806Yesterday, I ate nearly two pounds of vegetables, half a pound of potatoes and about a pound and a half of meat and eggs. Oh and a cup and a half of milk, plus a tablespoon of olive oil for cooking. I'm on the way to doing the same thing today. I'm going to do it again tomorrow, and the next day and the next.
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>>76918806I agree in the sense I could just eat two steaks for dinner, but not an ass ton of broccoli. Personally I dont care though as long as you don't try to moral fag to me. My brother went veggie 4 years ago, and its the worst cant share food with the bitch nigga. He talks about the effects on the environment and how he couldn't hurt animals. Meanwhile him and his pig wife eat gummy candies by the boat load, and fish despite the fact that trawlers wipe out entire marine ecosystems.
>>76931974>its impossible for me to eat a saladCringe
>>76933157you can't eat plants either
>>76933767Weird how you totally missed the point of the post.
>>76928088can humans fly?
>>76933916>still no source
>>76933916
>>76928298>>76928315>veggiesPlease die
>>76928275We developed a sweet thing called fire that can be used to cook fibrous vegetables and break down/boil out the ANTINOOTRIENTS contained within.
>>76935421Not all. A lot of people experience digestive issues or allergies when they consume certain plants. The only animal product with comparable issues is dairy and maybe shellfish. Besides those only a tiny sliver of people have issues with animal products.
>>76937213Crohns disease prevents people from eating red meat. But it's also stupid to look at people who have obvious disorders. If veggies were bad for us then we would have scientific evidence showing that. There is zero evidence that broccoli is bad for, it's almost always associated with improved health.
>>76937240>But it's also stupid to look at people who have obvious disorders.Which is why I mentioned digestive issues and food related allergies. There are quite a few otherwise healthy people who have reactions when eating plants, raw or cooked. There are hardly any such people who get similar reactions from animal products. They're across the board easier to digest.>If veggies were bad for us then we would have scientific evidence showing thatDo you deny the existence of allergies or plant toxins or what?
>Tree consumes sunlight, is the de-facto primary producer of the global food chain>Tree produces nut, the de-facto optimal source of complex fats>Mushroom consumes tree, becomes the de-facto richest source of protein, fiber, and micronutrients available to humans>Mushroom then consumes sunlight to further enrich itself with vitamin D>Human ignores this ultimate food source that's 2 steps away from directly consuming sunlight... because mushrooms are scary and i heard from one guy on FB that his cousin got real sick that one time eating a mushroom that he thought was the one mushroom but it was actually the slightly toxic one that gives you the tummy aches :(
>>76935421Still failing to name any year round plants
>>76923503>broccoli is bad 4u
>>76918827>anectode anectode anecdoteAh, the true 4channer nazicel way
>>76937634>8 day old thread>150 replies>magically gets necro'd at 8 hoursOy vey ketoschizo
