why is the captcha so hard

They don't. I hardly ever see DYELs deadlifting. The lat pulldown though. That shit is like light to the flies for DYELs.

>>76929773
before my numbers were big my deadlift max rep was 4pl8 while I could hardly do a 1.5pl8 bench lol, its one of the easiest lifts to progress, but also the easiest one to injure yourself to

>>76929752
it filters dummies like you

>>76929782
True, but you may have long arms that skewed your progression

>>76929740
Plebbit told them to

>>76929740
It's the one lift that it's easy to get a big number on, so it's very appealing to dyels. It's a lot of hard work over a long time to get a good big number on bench or OHP, or even squat.

But any onions who's consistent for 6 months and puts on a belt can pull a pretty big deadlift number. It's appealing to them because it's so easy.

>>76929782
I agree. After I started training properly (ignoring the first year I spent fucking around on some stupid program I made myself, and got no gains) it only took me 6 months to deadlift 4pl8. 1pl8 OHP, 2pl8 bench and 3pl8 squat all took over a year. Like that other post said all you need is 6 months of actually been consistent to get a good deadlift, it's stupid easy.

>>76929790
No long arms here bro, I'm 5'10" with 5'7" wingspan. Deadlift is just easy.

>>76929919
>It's the one lift that it's easy to get a big number on, so it's very appealing to dyels

If you're built for it...
I got to a 235 x 5 bench (medium/close grip) and a 245 x 5 strict Pendlay Row (legitimately strict, clean steady reps, very minimal body swinging) when I still couldn't deadlift more than 300. And my squat was 290 x 2.

Lower body has always been a slow shitty grind for me. Convinced its a movement pattern deficiency issue. Since my hamstrings and quads arent necessarily weak on their own (can do single leg hamstring curls with 80 to 100 pounds for sets of 12 fairly easily and one leg leg press 3 plates also)

>>76929740
Because deadlifts are the path out of DYEL

>>76929947
Yes different people are good at different things. This is hard for autists like >>76929940

>>76929773
In my gym the DYELs love incline barbell bench press

>>76929740
>babbys first ego lift

>>76929740
You ever noticed how the only deadlifters are elite powerlifters and DYELs? That's because everyone in between gets crippled from the lift. All those idiots programming their 4-6 plate dipshit lift who look like an average calisthenics user wind up brokeback mountain in a few years and give up lifting

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>>76930437
even "elite powerlifters" dont look good from deadlifting

it literally gives you the mewtwo build all the ladies want, giant ass/thighs/hips, tiny upper body tiny arms

>>76930449
lul>>76930437

>>76929752
IQ test

>>76929773
Pec deck also

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>>76930437
TRVKE NUKE

It's a stupidly injurious exercise. /fit/ users are very cultish and lemming-like, though, so they'll repeat ad nauseum about how good of a lift it is and they'll minimize the risks

>>76929752
jews and jeets want to control the /fit narrative

>>76929740
1. it's the least technically complex of all the major compounds
2. it is THE heaviest lift and when you're a DYEL escaping skelly jail, that is very compelling
3. it's ridiculously easy to progress in the noobgains phase, basically adding 10-15 lbs. to the bar every workout
4. its set/rep range is generally quite a bit lower and DYELs like that
and, this is important,
5. you can give it 100% without needing a spotter. DYELs don't want to ask for a spot on their 125 lb bench and are ashamed of ditching the weight on their 190 lb squat. no such concerns exist for the deadlift. ironically, this is also why so many DYELs snap their shit up trying to do them; in their mind, the only way they'll fail the lift is if it drops back to the ground

>>76930449
don't forget the fridge-mode core depriving you of any v-taper you may have otherwise had

>>76929947
I'm the same as you. I've always had a naturally strong upper body and progressing on bench, ohp, or any sort of weighted pullup or dip etc was always effortless. Squats and deadlifts were a grind though

Every deadlifter i see is either extremely dyel or extremely strong fat powershitter
The certified dyel exercises are
>ab crunches
>all kind of biceps curls
>pec deck
>lat pulldown

>>76930583
Is there actually any style this guy could adopt to look less ridiculously soi?

>>76930593
lol, glassback faggot, go spam glute bridges or something, faggot

>>76930631
He has to ditch the Ausin Powers glasses and that gay ass quiff hairstyle.

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>>76930593
absolutely true, you should be doing lifts that actually strengthen your back

>>76930774
This is very based but wouldn't it fuck your back up?

>>76930777
In the history of humanity there's never been a single injury due to zercher deadlifts or squat you have
You have to be a special kind of retarded subhuman to hurt yourself doing it
It's also more of a rehab/flexibility exercise than something you should constantly overload and chase PRs on

what makes me cringe is seeing dyel who wear straps, belt, socks, do some 5 minute routine to get into position, do 3 reps of 2.5 pl8 and slam the weight down like they are halfthor.

its the same thing as seeing someone with all the gear for a hobby you like but being terrible at it. i think its more apparent with lifting because there is an objective number (weight)

same reason people love pullups, its one of those lifts where you can be a DYEL and still perform well at it

Now watch all the seethe and cope replies to me :)

>>76930777
yes it will
it's a retarded meme not based, somehow the population of people who do this has a 90% overlap with people who eat a carnivore doet
you can get away with any ridiculous shit for a couple weeks but doing this with any frequency will fuck you up long term and has z-e-r-o benefits

>>76930815
Imagine not only being
>A glassback
>An elbowlet
>A forearmlet
>A corelet
>No spinal flexion
>+30
But all of them at once LMAO

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>>76930815
>doing this with any frequency will fuck you up long term
over 30 btw

>>76930437
You only get crippled if you are retarded, which clearly explains why you are so deathly afraid of deadlifting

>>76930842
Doorbrah is such a public nuisance but what do i know maybe his neighbors like it or he has some cool gymdude neighbor

>>76930815
Yeah it will fuck up your back because you're weak. People lift to improve themselves so they don't remain weak. That's the whole fucking point.

>>76930822
thanks for introducing yourself

>>76930842
also retarded meme exercise made by attention craving tiktok whores (stuck in the body of a >30 year old, SAD) but not as únsafe as >>76930774, just a bit unstable
its the equivalent of a bosu ball squat: sure generally safe but basically useless, just lift normally

>>76930873
no it will fuck up your back because you're lifting heavy loads whilst your vertebrea press down on your discs in an unbalanced position
the question isn't if, but when you will slip a disc
enjoy your wheelchair faggot

>>76930900
>>76930822
>>76930842
>>76930873
by the way I just thought of a funny joke:
seems i really hit a nerve with my reply which is funny because soon enough you won't feel your nerves anymore

>>76930901
Post physique

>>76929740
rippetoe poisoned an entire generation of lifters and the rot is present to this day

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>>76930858
>You only get crippled if you are retarded
No one thinks they are though, and everyone who keeps adding weight to spine lifts is.

Almost no one deadlifts at my faggot gym

No evidence exists that bent back lifts are inherently injurious compared to anything else you do in the gym. Only stuart mcgills dehydrated gorillion rep pig spine experiments and dyel lore similar to how they used to tell people to never squat with your knees over your toes. In reality, for people who are not retarded and can actually observe reality and reflect on it, it is evident that people do bent lifting all the time, that they train themselves up to do tremendous weights in such movements and that they in fact walk around with no more back issues than the average person. Actually people who are not afraid to train bent back movements end up with much less painful and more functional backs.

>>76930903
Post mri of lower back so we can all point and laugh at the micro tears and displacement in your discs before one inevitably slips you future criple fuck

>>76931022
That is not an image file of a recent picture of the current external physical appearance of your body, sir.

>>76931022
Everyone over the age of 25 has visible damage to their lower back if you do an MRI scan
It's just that glass backs will develope painful symptoms sooner than later

>>76931096
it's a weird request to begin with and in essence it's an attempt at a strawman and therefore a concession which i shall take it as
imagine an orthopedic surgeon told this faggot his back is fucked up because he fell for an online meme, his reply would probably be 'show body'
that's the kind of unadjusted socially outlandish behaviour you get when you spend 80% of your waking hours online
>>76931120
>coping so hard he convinced himself his fucked up back is actually normal
audible klok

>tfw afraid of deadlifting over 2pl8s because I dont wanna fuck up my back
Ive been shown multiple times how to do it but I always struggle with my form coming down. It feels like its more difficult for me to get it right cus im tall. Romanians are no problem for me, I struggle with the first and last step the most.

>>76931138
Make an MRI of your back and post results
You won't

>>76929740

>>76931142
unless you want to compete as a powerlifter there's just better options for everything a deadlift does

>back
rows/kelso shrugs
>hamstrings
hamstring curls
>glutes
hip thrusts
>adductors
adductor machine

only thing that's somewhat tough to replicate is the lower back/erector gains you get but you can replicate that by getting on a back extension machine with weight or getting creative with a row machine (TNF made a video on this)

and the key thing to remember is you will be getting better gains faster by taking a maximalist approach via isolation versus needing to build up to a 600+ pound deadlift in order to get similar results

>>76931138
That's an awfully wordy post, i see no physique, where's your physique ? Hello?

This thread got awfully dull. Can we get more pics of soiboys deadlifting please?

OK I agree with everything and I haven't deadlifted in 3 years. But what about squatting? I have gotten serious this year with it and I'm squatting more than 100kg for reps (75kg bw).

Should I just switch to leg press and stay safe? I'm already 33 and being injured or destroying my lower back is the last thing I want

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>>76931282
you got it

>>76929940
> (ignoring the first year I spent fucking around on some stupid program I made myself, and got no gains)
what was the program and what did you change to?

>>76930579
this. I never see the pec dec open. There is always a dyel spawned on the machine every time I look. I never see people do db flys

>>76929752
Tell me you’re brown without telling me you’re brown

>>76930927
You will never post body

>>76931292
You shouldnt do anything, leg press can kill you havent you seen GYM FAIL COMPILATION (DARWIN AWARDS EDITION #363736 THE LAST ONE WILL SHOCK YOU) yet ? Everything is dangerous. At 33 too ? Is this your death wish ? Going outside is dangerous a car could hit you. Why are you even in a house dont you fear being hit by an asteroid ??? Breathing is fatal you could swallow your tongue by mistake. If you stay alive for too long...you DIE. Are you insane. Stop doing. Dont do. Dont.

>>76929782
how do people injure themselves deadlifitng? I have yet to injure myself doing it, I only do rdls though

>>76929947
When I started going, age 28, I could almost immediately RDL 100kg for 12 reps. I got to a 150kg rdl for reps in like a month.
Bench took me 8 months to hit 100kg.

>>76930904
Don't worry, useless pussy weak scaredy cats afraid to deadlift will always be around

It's actually pretty hard to hurt yourself deadlifting
I remember this video of this zoomer who lifted every day for a year. His form was atrocious and he added like 300 lbs to his deadlift. Basically did everything wrong and still didn't get injured.
I have never got injured in years of deadlifting. I don't see any reason why you would, honestly. Unless you think the body just randomly spazzes and injures itself for no reason.

>>76930842
that is clearly a 17 year old

>>76930593
Of all the imaged to turn into AI slop, this is the one that benefits the absolute least

>>76931269
point in case
>>76931282
blam the jeffersons, these faggots always self-insert on every topic related to an exercise and shoehorn jefferson curls into it as being the solution to everything

>>76930633
>glute bridges
This nigga is flat. Go enjoy your accelerated disc degeneration

>>76930952
yeah don't trust the guy who successfully rehabbed the obliterated spine of an elite powerlifter, a guy who has advanced the understanding of the spine, with a long list of high profile clients, trust a random shitposting anonymous trust me bro with zero credibility or facts

>>76931372
simple answer it's genetic attribute of spinal disc shape. unchangeable and inherited from parents. if your discs are more Lima bean shaped you will have more success with extreme compressive loads ie 300+ lb axial loads. if your discs are more oval shaped you will blow your back out deadlifting however you can generate absurd rotational power. think: the ability to kick a human's head clean off their shoulders requires the opposite of withstanding compressive forces

>>76931774
Not how it works retard all top mma and boxing guys deadlift
Crawford deadlifts +200kg for reps at ~70kg bw
I've seen makhachev and jon jones deadlift +4pl8 as well and they could snap your head of your neck socket

>>76931785
>>76931802
My gay phone autocorrected and dropped words to make my post meaningless so I'll try again. A 4 plate deadlift is barely above beginner tier however it's still in the realm of being horrendous for genetic predisposition based on spinal disc shapes. Countless lab research has proven genetic features and predisposition of the spine. A person who generates rotational power and deadlifts heavy may well have a bad back and be on painkillers and hormones to cope. You have no clue what these people put themselves through for money and fame. They may well be in a wheelchair after their career. They are not good examples for a regular person with no aspirations for professional combat sports. Any trainer with any knowledge would tell them their routine will lead to long term problems and that they're consciously making a short term decision.

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>>76929752
It's actually easier than the last one where you had to type shit.
Just don't think too hard on the answer, go with your gut and wing it.
Works every time.

>>76931785
>>76931817
also I just looked up Terrence Crawford's 455lb "deadlift" it was a below knee rack pulls. dropped the weight. yeah I've done 600lbs this way and I can't deadlift whatsoever and deadlifting ruins my back. once again this person may well be slowing destroying their spine and they're not doing a legit competition deadlift nor is it particularly heavy. being heavier bw doesn't change the genetic features of the spine.

>>76931785
just looked up makhachev. pretty impressive grip strength 485lb dead however again he completely drops the weight. also he's a grappler which would be contrary to the point. he would not be a grappler if he had elite rotational power.

>>76929773
>The lat pulldown though. That shit is like light to the flies for DYELs.
Is it because they can't do pullups?

>>76931847
Its a very intuitive lift that you can feel confident doing even if nobody ever told you how to do it. And yeah they cant do pullups. Its also just comfortable in terms of ergonomics. The opposite of something like a bent over row which is super uncomfortable to do just because of the ergonomics of it.

>>76931785
lastly Jon Jones. very strong deadlift but he's not good at kickboxing. his best attribute again is his wrestling moves. in a kickboxing match he'd get btfo by any high tier kickboxer. he clearly does not possess exceptional rotational power.

>>76931840
>>76931857
Both makhachev and jon jones butcher people on the feet, they're not ko artists but do have lots of power.
Pereira is at 5pl8 or more Also

>>76931873
makhachev and Jones are both grapplers/wrestlers. I looked into Pereira he's indeed a kickboxer first and foremost and I see him deadlifting 4 plate at 200lbs. ok whatever. again none of this disproves anything I said. I'm sure you can get away with deadlifting a beginner weight for a little while also likely being on painkillers and peptides for the fame and money of UFC. not applicable to the avg lifter.

>>76931873
Pereira's technique is very stiff and rigid which is what you tend to find from deadlifters who are kickers. he employs low kicks heavily and rigid strikes, not generating any appreciable degree of rotational power like some of the all time great mma kickers. for that matter of all the great mma kickers I'm not sure if a single one has a heavy deadlift or if they do its an outlier as most don't.
here's a breakdown of pereira's technique to anyone interested: https://youtube.com/watch?v=t3elBcUtnJ8

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we are strong

>>76931949
You know how we look at old timey photos of people and laugh at their goofy hair and clothes?
That's all I see when I look at this shit. We'll be remembered as this period where we were all vain and self-obsessed and desperate to prove ourselves to strangers on the internet, and opening OUR FUCKING MOUTHS ALL THE TIME for pictures, fucking screenshots of twitter posts of reddit pictures, fucking autistic people trooning out, (it's a trend, it's fashionable, it won't happen as much in the future I guarantee it) fucking retarded species seriously

>>76931368
Lmfao

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>>76930449
The mewtwo build with a nice big juicy pair of pecs is unironically the ideal male physique.

>>76932221
you can never convince me SS was not a gay psyop to trick straight guys into giving them more fap fuel

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>>76930630
You shitting on curlbros? You're picrel

>>76930787
>socks
You don't wear socks?

>>76932064
>opening OUR FUCKING MOUTHS ALL THE TIME
It's called a fear grimace, it's a sign of low testosterone.

>>76931860

>4pl8
>unironically stronger than 90% of the board

>>76932254
proof that lifting for strength is a meme

>>76932254
stronger at what? bending over? lmfao. deadlift ain't the ultimate test of strength. nearly everything you do in life requiring a lot of strength is from a standing position not bending over like the captain of queers

>>76929773
It's the pec deck at my gym. There are three of them and I always have to wait to use one after I bench. I don't understand the fascination with that exercise.

>>76932272
My friend who is auchwitz mode told me his biggest insecurity is having such a small chest. For lots of other skeletons its the small wrists but apparently chest is a pretty common one.

>>76932272
>not using a pecdec to warm up for bench
NGMI

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>>76932254
>deadlifts 4pl8
>tiny legs
>tiny arms
>tiny chest
>tiny shoulders

wow yippee

all that deadlifting really did him a whole lotta good

>inb4 some people dont lift to look good!!!!

grow up

Its funny how some people are married to an exercise, they get offended and lash out if you insult their beloved exercise

>>76932259
lifting for strength = lifting for size if you are a natty.
Unless you just love doing a fuck ton of volume

>>76929752
this captcha is mad easy, I can solve it and post within like 5 seconds. The old one was a bitch

>>76929740
>who do DYELs love deadlifts so much?
Because it's the only lift they can do more than 1 plate on, lol

>DYELs
>lift
opposed to three sets of shitposting

>>76929752
holy shit. they unfucked the captcha. thank you based gookmoot, I can now post without a 500 hour delay

>>76931895
>Jones is a grappler/wrestler
Jon Jones head kicked Daniel Cormier which led to a finish. He does both.

>>76932269
you realize you stand up during a deadlift too, right? i'd say of all the non-strongman lifts deadlift probably actually is the ultimate test of strength, it activates tons of muscles and picking up something heavy in front of you is definitely a real-life scenario kek

>>76932254
He's wearing a multiply suit AND a belt
His max is 3pl8 sumo

>>76932269
>>76932463
>>76932259
>>76933100
Holy cope. Just admit you're all weaklings. I was expecting a dozen replies of
>I DL more than that
yet all of you are indirectly admitting to just being weaker than that absolute dweeb.
>inb4 some dumbass reply
I do sets of five at that 4pl8. Back in the day that wasn't even that impressive on /fit/. Shame.

>>76929740
>+150lbs dl
>+100lbs bench
I'd bench more but something about deadlifting is just more satisfying.

>>76933116
>I do sets of five at that 4pl8.

who gives a fuck, you're strong at a lift that's good for nothing
>yet all of you are indirectly admitting to just being weaker than that absolute dweeb.
i wouldnt know my deadlift because I don't deadlift because it's a useless lift

>>76931766
I care about real world empirics and what you see in the real world is this >>76931401
Time and time again. Not glassback hysterics.

>>76932626
Everything you believe about training is wrong and dumb.

>>76932269
As if that made any difference
Stupids get these ideas in their head about 'axial load' or 'rotational strength' or whatever
You think by this point in life stupids would realize they're stupid and stop embarrassing themselves like this

>>76933220
you have cognitive bias. places where people go to talk about deadlifting are filled to the brim with folks suffering from back pain invoked by deadlifting. and no it's not people who are too weak and can only diddly 2plate or people lifting too much it's same thing at nearly all weight ranges and skill levels. I've never seen a lift more consistently cause problems across all skill levels and weight classes

>>76932463
He's way bigger than he was. He just has bad genetics

>>76932626
What the other anon said but you're also very small and weak right?

>>76932463
The difference is youre weak AND you look terrible too, so what exactly is your point?

>>76930774
There’s no way this is good form. 100% chance that spine is going to herniate if he keeps that up.

>>76933351
I can only think of a couple social media influencers who have been doing memelifts for a long time. Most of these folks probably snap their shit up and disappear

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I don't understand the point of programming in DL if you are just bodybuilding. People say it's a goated exercise that hits everything but it's not an exercise focused on one particular bodypart, you can't really program it into PPL without doing somthing like Pull(Dead)PushLegsRest which means you are losing 1 day compared to traditional 6 day PPL. It's a horrendously fatiguing lift that made me feel nauseous whenever doing it, was sick if I ate before, was faint if I hadn't ate. Massive risk of snapping your shit up rivaled only by the Barbell Squat.

If you're not competing and/or don't enjoy focusing on deadlift simply don't do it, it isn't worth it.

>>76933375
>you can't really program it into PPL
It's literally legs as much as squat is. But I don't care about "bodybuilding" and idk if it's good for that.

>>76933375
Why are you doing PPL if you aren't a professional bodybuilder? Youre probably one of those skinny ass zoomers doing 30kg lat pulldowns lmao

>>76933256
Back pain is a part of life. Injuries are a part of training. In the long term people who lift end up with less back pain than sedentary dyels. If glassbacks like you were correct, strongmen should end up in wheel chairs at the same rate as pro boxers start slurring their words. The opposite happens.
You are not intelligent. You don't know anything about training. You are reacting from a combination of fear and ingrained prejudices. >>76933351

>>76929740
Why do anything else for legs, dls build grip.

>>76930774
It's interesting that even as more and more people are exposing the lie we've been told about round back lifting, glass backs just grow more hysterical and dumb.

>>76933422
>Back pain is a part of life. Injuries are a part of training.
Not really. The best of both worlds is deadlifting 1-2 plates depending on body size and maintaining. If you keep adding weight you snap, and if you never lift you're fragile.

>>76933422
The difference is that ultra lower rounded back lifting is purposely trying to hurt your back. There are plenty powerlifters who lift with a semi-rounded back but none of them just hunch over like this on purpose even in training

>>76933419
kek bodied

>>76933116
I literally repped 4pl8 1 hour ago, he's still DYEL

>>76933375
I prefer cleans. Squats and deadlifts just make you way too thick in all the wrong places.

>>76929740
because it's that exercise they can put the most plates on the bar, thus feeding their fragile ego and need for external validation. One bad move and you're fucked for life? Who cares, health be damned, I need to post my lift on tiktok!

>>76929752
Test

>>76929752
Brown hands typed this

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>>76929740
Realistically it's a horrendous lift for bodybuilding specifically. Yes it's good for strength and probably the biggest strength test amongst the compounds (ohp is harder though)

>>76933554
>probably the biggest strength test amongst the compounds
Nah that'd be clean-and-jerk

>>76929740
Because higher number better.

>>76929740
>who do DYELs love deadlifts so much?
For me it's the guys that see me doing the leg press at 600 pounds and then come over and try to load as much weight as I do and do half a rep, and considering the leg press is already half of a rep of a squat I am wondering what they think they are doing.

Trust me - there is no bigger indicator of a DYEL than people egolifting on the leg press.

>>76933454
>ultra lower rounded back lifting is purposely trying to hurt your back
According to weak, scared and unintelligent glassbacks
>none of them just hunch over like this on purpose even in training
False

>>76933640
Literally this

>>76933440
No, lifting 1-2 plates is fragile too. What do you think lifting less than most people do on their first day accomplishes exactly? Do you know how strength training works?

>>76933469
What a novel and clever post. Surely a dozen other weak unoriginal dorks didn't post the same thing before you.

>>76929740
Is it *really* a deadlift if it's under lmao4pl8? (Or 3.5 if you're a manlet)

>>76930593
>>76930437
More people get hurt leg pressing than squat and dead combined

Nice cope tho

>>76930774
He will leave a beautiful physique when he dies for israel.

>>76932254
>cheat suit
>cheat belt
>cheat shoes
>cheat form
He probably couldn’t pull 3plate conventional

>>76929773
there's nothing wrong with lat pulldowns. the exercise has been a part of every single successful bodybuilder's routine

>>76930784
how is it possible to be such a social pariah and angryboi that you actually think it's funny or entertaining to post things like this
>creatine causes hair loss
>impossible to get injured flexing spine
>nobody should deadlift

I don't understand
it's like 75% of this board is just self loathing fatties who have never lifted and never will, so they spam misinformation memes "for the lolz" and get into arguments with each other
instead of just, you know, discussing fitness
truly pathetic
I pity you anons

>>76930774
Damn it really is nearly impossible to ACK a strong back isn't it

>>76933375
I disagree with all of this but will just note I can tell by a guy's physique when he doesn't deadlift. The biggest giveaway is a lack of spinal erectors.

>>76933701
Do you have single fact to back that up?

>>76932696
>the old one was a bitch
Especially for phone faggers like me.

>>76933701
>leg press
Wrong
>benchpress
Right

>>76932272
When I was absolute beginner, pecdeck and hexpress helped me to feel my chest activating, which helped me improve my bench form

>>76929740
I've never seen any DYELs at the gym do deadlifts.
This isn't 2009.

>>76930777
Not if you progress at a rate you can recover from, like with any other exercise. The dude in the video has been at it for years.

>>76933971
>>impossible to get injured flexing spine
There's thousands of hours of fail injury videos and not a single one of them is a zercher
And it's not because it's an obscure meme lifts, you can find dozens of people snapping shit doing something like a behind the neck or french press or nordic curls but never a zercher or jefferson
It's the great DYEL filter, it makes you strong and resilient and you also have to be strong and resilient to do it

>>76933701
I'm not advocating either exercise. The reason deadlift is more injurious is specifically because more weight is used than any other lift. You can't dispute this. Heavier weights increase the odds of injury and if you aren't doing deadlift in 1-5rm range you're doing nothing.

>>76933422
You're an idiot. You're not supposed to have back pain from lifting. That's a symptom of spinal damage not growth not gains. Stupidity.

>>76934130
The word you're looking for is "source" or "data." Good lord.

>>76934421
This. I lift at home but went to some gyms while I was travelling and literally everyone was a curlbro. Saw a couple guys doing high rep squats but that's it.

>>76934720
Your reading comprehension is bad.

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>>76935084
>Akshually...
So you have nothing and are a newfag.

>>76929752
Why are browns saying this? Mine are all literally
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WOAH SO HARD WHICH IS IT

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>>76931410
no, this is

>>76930784
>In the history of humanity there's never been a single injury due to zercher deadlifts or squat you have
There's been many many injuries for both and some people have even died while bb squatting

>>76935129
I'm not the guy you were arguing with I was just pointing out your tenuous grasp of English and logic

>>76934524
alright faggot I'll bite

explain to me what a zercher does for me that no other exercise can do

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>>76935488
Reddit brained nigger

>>76935090
No my reading comprehension is perfect. You're an absolute retard.

>>76934524
You know what else filters people? Stabbing themselves in the head with false beliefs of acending. Go on what are you waiting for don't get filtered like those other none knife in the head losers

>>76934080
In what situation do you get to look at another man's spinal erector?

>>76935446
Zercher squat is the safest lift to fail id say even safer than a curl, how much of an uncordinated autist retard are you

>>76929752
Holy iqlet
Go back to your fucking country.

I like the men I fuck to have thick strong spinal erectors to go with their large powerful glutes, that way I know they're built to take a hell of an ass pounding

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behold the immaculate body of the 600lb deadlifter

>>76933677
>t.powershitter
Post beer belly

>>76930858
Top Klok

>>76931292
>I got serious and can squat beginners weight
Lmao
You'll only get hurt squatting or deadlifting if you're repeatedly fucking up

More people get hurt leg pressing than squat and dead combined tho