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I was able to make my life a lot better by basically trying to be like a girl. I only fap once a week. I make it a special thing where I light candles for my weekly fap.

Going strictly no fap was just impossible for me. I will basically start fapping in my sleep after a week and a half.

>>76929968
>I light candles
>my weekly fap
Based faggot

>>76929968

Scatter rose petals everywhere aswell

>>76929955
Try it for 2 weeks and see how it goes. If your test boosts to the moon it’ll feel like you’re on gear, but also not an unhinged degenerate like the tren addicts who turn gay on a cycle.

>>76929955
>is it worth it
well, not a single loser around here ever improved his life from this nonsense.
All the no nut november NNNcels went back to gooning to weird porn at 12:00:01am Dec 1

>>76930013
>it’ll feel like you’re on gear
I take shitloads of steroids and it doesnt "feel" like anything, dipshit

>>76930019
Don’t project your complete lack of self-awareness onto the rest of the class, dumbass.

>>76930001
Bubble bath too. One where the penis slowly rises out of the foam for its weekly beardown.

>>76930025
then tell us what being steroids feels like, you dyel nattytranny

>>76930038
Feels like not cumming for two weeks, anon.

woowoo nonsense

>>76929968
This guy wears a cage.
This stuff is a pipeline to orgasm denial fetishism and other weird shit. Why do you think that stuff is everywhere now?

I did it for 2 months when I cut porn out just to kind of reset myself, but now I just fap maybe once a week. I think it's good to do for a while if you've been abusing your dick nonstop.

Every time ive tried nofap I just get insanely horny for like 2 weeks and it derails every part of my life. Now I have a gf tho so its not an option. Basically you can only do nofap as an incel and what are healthy celibate people doing? Cumming.

Rolling for pushups

>>76929955
As a porn addict, I found the only way for me to do nofap is not to do nofap. Basically, if I think of doing this challenge I end up relapsing, but I get pretty long streaks when I'm NOT thinking about it - I just don't jack off because I'm busy with something else.

>>76929968
1. That's gay as fuck.
2. But also based.
3. Use scented candles or essential oils to get rid of cum smell

>>76930076
You are doing nofap because you're not fapping, you're having sex with your gf. The point of nofap isn't to never cum, it's to stop masturbating, because it's disgraceful and you end up cumming multiple times a day in extreme cases (so it's not about cumming in general, just cumming too often).
You aren't supposed to fuck your GF every single day either, that's still gonna have negative effects.
As for inability to not fap on nofap >>76930192

>>76929955
makes me have wet dreams so i keep waking up in the middle of the night and i can't have that

Just stop watching porn and try to interact with women in a platonic way to break the conditioning. Unless you're gay, then all you have to do is go on grindr for an endless buffet of dick and man ass.

>>76929955
>is nofap worth it
no

>am I gonna break my dick?
also no

>>76930013
It's probably just your brain finding things attractive by releasing chemicals because you want to fuck. Are you sick demented fucks literally trying to give people ED?

>>76930204
>You aren't supposed to fuck your GF every single day
Low T take

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>>76929955
I don't know about you, but I can't go two days without cumming, sex or fap. The lust creeps up and consumes 99% of my brain power and I stop functioning and can't focus on anything else.

>>76930199
Oh fuck does cum smell??

>>76930296
>not having sex causes ed

Wrong.

>>76930204
Nah cuz now instead of watching porn twice a day im just getting pussy so im not actually doing it less

>>76930204
>You aren't supposed to fuck your GF every single day either, that's still gonna have negative effects.

Stopped reading right there. If you don't fuck your woman every possible opportunity she will leave for someone else.

>>76929955
I have no negative experience with no fap so far, its has been three weeks. The longest I have gone was three months and it was awesome. But to any anons who want to actually try this path, start with no porn, wack off when you need to but no porn, then you will see what you truly need in life.
>inb4 brown incel cope
You will realize porn makes you a cuck and faggot.

>>76929955
If you actually read some studies, nofap hormonal benefits are l8mited to 6-9day frame.
If you abstain from ejaculating the testosterone will spike after about 6 days and after 9 days will rather sharply drop back to normal.

It is quite obvious a body wants to retain stasis so it will mellow out any hormonal imbalance.

So if you want to reap /fit/ benefits for real from masturbating, do it only once a week on average.

Now we also cannot ignore other factors that come with actually masturbating, like reduction of stress hormones.

And thirdly we must also consider the mental benefits of abstaininh from porn.

So in summary - whole month may be beneficial if you feel adddicted to porn, but overall healthy masturbation should not be limited for more than a week.

>>76929955
Depends on your situation. I generally dont jerk off at all anymore but I do fuck my wife and Im way happier than before. This is a normal feeling btw >>76930299 and youll have to power through it. The poster ist just weak af but I understand that the whole lust conditioning is hard to break

>>76930017
Is it 12:00:01 am or 00:00:01 am?

>>76930380
This, start with no porn, it will change your life for good.

>>76930380
>reddit spacing
>reddit wording
Go back. Also there is a million ways to lower your """""stress hormones"""" without touching your penis like a loser, Mr. Studyface

>>76930390
Like the girl at the coffee shop yyeeeeaaahhhh bbbuddddyyy

>>76930017
Shalom

>>76929955
Currently working on month two of NNN
Benefits are definitely worth it
Look into reversing your (((circumcision))) too

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>>76930017
Not me, fren.
I am no degenerate coomer.

>>76930386
It’s 12:00:01 am, dumbo. If it were 00:00:01 there’s no need to specify am.

>>76930380
this pretty much agrees with my experience. i get a slight boost in energy/am generally less inclined to lethargy that peaks at about 7 days, after that it becomes an ascetic thing, mental masturbation if anything kek

>>76930204
>You aren't supposed to fuck your GF every single day either, that's still gonna have negative effects.
>No, I can't speak from personal experience, but I'm very up-to-date with the literature.
kekekekek

>>76930324
yes anon
everyone around you can tell

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>>76930204
>You aren't supposed to fuck your GF every single day either, that's still gonna have negative effects.
if i wasn't fucking my gf every single day, i assumed that something was seriously wrong with the relationship. on top of that i would sneak off to masturbate later after she was all worn out and passed the fuck out. i don't know if my test levels are higher than normal or if i'm just a depraved sex fiend but i've always been this way. i always assumed it was normal. i think that excessive sex and masturbation is the only reason i didn't lose all my hair decades ago. i like to stay on an even keel.

I've done it a few times but struggle to get beyond 2 weeks.
The horniness makes it really difficult to sleep.
I did feel like it gave me more energy, though and I felt more inclined to speak to random women. I think this is due to the horniness.
The sleeping thing is a big problem for me, though. As I don't sleep well to begin with.

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>>76930013
According to sources I looked at a while ago, test rises until the end of the 6/7th day and then dips back down to normal levels.

So optimally, you would be jerking off once a week towards the end of the week. With peak in test being the fifth and sixth day. This way you are always move upwards and not just stagnating at your lower levels.

>>76930299
>>76930384
Yeah, the lust part is what gets me as well. Issue I personally am having is (long distance to gf) as well as when in person she isn't as into having sex a lot. Beginning of relationship was a lot but has slowly waned. She is a bit aut so maybe overstimulation or something.

>>76929955
Unironically I went from a depressed incel bibeogamer living with my parents fapping everyday

To

>Top 5% salary
>Girl of my dreams (virgin before we met)
>Own property
>Started a family
>Learning keyboard (and genuinely enjoy it more than pozzed bubeogames)
>Competed in striking and currently training to compete in grappling

It's not for everyone, and the new life has its downsides too. But I wanted to seize life instead of rotting and playing bibeo and fapping.

I attribute at least 70% of my success to nofap

>>76929955
Reminder that christian retards have been sexophobic and pushing back humanity advancements for over two thousand years now.

>>76930665
>if i wasn't fucking my gf every single day, i assumed that something was seriously wrong with the relationship.
lel you are "fucking" her, your own words! You are abusing her, "fucker", you said it yourself that you are deeply wrong, don't you read what you write?
>>76931078
Yeah they are so "sex-phobic" that the 2 most Catholic places in the world, Ireland and Quebec, boasted the highest fertility rate of all time with an average of like 10 child per women back when they were religious. Oh but according to RETARDS like you, they probably made those children with their minds or some magic right? That's how a retard like you think right?

>>76931084
Bro pleasures his imaginary gf by candle light. Real women get fucked thats why so many of them are whores

>>76929955
Does masturbation make you feel better or worse (after it's finished)? Are you proud of it? Is it worth your time? Are pornstars available to you sexually? If you had to decide between never masturbating, or never having sex, which would you choose? Are you religious? If so, what does your religion say about this? Do you hide from people when you masturbate? Do you tell people about your masturbation habits (irl)? Do you like jews? Do you think it's good for your mental and sexual health to teach your brain that sexual satisfaction is reached through observation of other people having sex? Does trying nofap come with a significant risk of ruining your life? Is any of the benefits listed in your picture desirable to you?

I don't know what to advise you because I don't know what you desire from life, and I don't know if abstinence will help, but I know it won't hurt your dick.

>>76931078
How's the weather in Tel Aviv, Bergsteinovitz?

>>76931106
Real women? Real women have children after sex, you "fuck" them, you fuck with them you get fucked too, you're basically scamming each others and treating each others as soulless disposables.

What is a women anyway according to you? By the way you're thinking, you've probably fucked trannies too lmao fucking gay ass homo.

Besides helping people who genuinely have a porn addiction, I believe the majority of people who get a benefit from nofap are just people lacking discipline in general. By exercising their willpower, even for something trivial like not masturbating, they get a sense of control that they feel they're lacking. That then gets applied to other areas and that legitimately improves their life. Nofap isn't the goal at the end, it's just a stepping stone for people to take control of their life.

>>76929955
let me summarize no fap threads for you.
-It really works. you just stop fapping for a week and you actually become a gigachad avatar. your musk will make women drool and suck your dick on the spot. other lesser "men" will cry. you can bench a van full of bitches. I ain't making up any of these things bro, trust me.
-it doesn't work, it is stupid. ACTUAL basedcience told me to touch my pepe as much as I can and racemix because that's better for us all and the climate.if you don't start fapping right now you will develop not one, but TWO prostate cancers at the same time. *rubs hands*
any other thing apart from this shit is kicked by both of them at the same time.

>>76929955
I completed NNN.
I think any positives that came from it was negated with being stressed out and tired from class and life.

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>>76929955
>benefits of nofap
>pictures a woman working
LMFAO

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Not jerking off is the best thing you could possibly do, but most people don't have what it takes to do it.

You have to realize that jerking off, as terrible as it is, is a symptom of a bigger problem: you're not living right.
If you were busy all the time, had huge ambitious goals you were working towards, and or have a very active social life, the thought of jerking off wouldn't even come to your mind.
Jerking off becomes a problem to people who haven't got much going on in their lives, and spend too much time in front of a computer alone.

All the benefits and "superpowers" guys talk about are real, but they come mostly when you start living right, when you use your energy towards achieving things in life.
If you get so busy that you're not even thinking or caring about women or sex at all, they will be the ones coming to you.

Most of the arguments against nofap are just loser copes from guys who don't know what to do with their lives.

Every aspect of fapping is bad. It's not just the ejaculation, or only the porn, even if you jerk off to your imagination without spitting the sauce, you're still overstimulating your brain and making yourself lazy, tired and half-retarded.
You're still training yourself to be satisfied with imaginary accomplishment instead of real accomplishment.

I suggest people struggling to quit jerking off and watching porn to get as busy as possible with work, creative projects, socializing, whatever. Even becoming a workaholic is less harmful than jerking off.

>>76929955
The more you ejaculate the lower your prostate cancer chance is.

>>76931625
No, it isn't.

>>76929955
its so easy to scam yall. none of you know what nofap was really about, its crazy

>>76931613
you almost had it, you were so close. let me help you out, people who do nofap are the losers. The people who don't give a shit about your opinions on whether or not I jerk off are the winners in life. I work 40 hours, wife and kids, vacations all year round, etc., i still jerk off on the weekends

>>76929955
depends why you are currently fapping. odds are if you are fapping you are also watching porn growing those brain connections between sexual arousal and pixels. not good. if for the reasons in your pic no. maybe more confidence and less insecurity but from experience this is being so horny you just dont care so idk if it really does that. besides increased testosterone (which i have no way of determining by myself) everything else i have experienced the negative of: less energy, more stress and anxiety, less motivation and willpower, decreased happiness, less productive, and messier mind. if you change nothing besides nofap you will fap again. same thing with youtube, tv, movies, tiktok, music, social media (yes 4chan too) all that stuff that is a distraction should be gotten rid of. you will get SO BORED it will drive you to change or you give up and go back to your old ways. you decide.
if you think it is about the porn its not. most likely there is underlying pain you avoid and address the symptoms with porn. if you are just beating dick in the dark without other stimulation go on an adventure. most homes near me leave their windows unblinded and you can see the whole family eating dinner on nightly runs. a lurking pervert could be what your town needs.

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>>76931655
>I don't care
>that's why I'm in a thread about nofap writing a post telling you I don't care
>gosh, all these people that care about nofap (except me of course) are such losers

>>76930380
>If you abstain from ejaculating the testosterone will spike after about 6 days and after 9 days will rather sharply drop back to normal.
This is the stupidest argument against nofap. The reason why T drops is that YOUR BODY ACTUALLY USES IT instead of being in your blood.
Then, gradually, your baseline T increases week after week. It drops after the 7th day, but then your production slightly increases with each cycle.
Your androgen receptors, the ones that use T, and not jerking off increases their number.

>>76929968
This needs to be on a T-shirt

>>76931671
>this is a stupid argument!
>you can obviously change homeostasis without any sort of invasive procedure to manipulate transcription factors or forcefully cause genetic mutations
>your just a retard anon

>>76931671
The only people that ACTUALLY know what nofap is are only the losers. Go outside and talk to people that live a life, they will ironically think you are some pervert talking about nofap

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>>76931722
There are countless people that know that not jerking off has amazing benefits.
Even before the nofap movement existed many men noticed this (myself included).

>only people that ACTUALLY know what nofap is are only the losers.
Yeah that's your stupid personal opinion. Many successful people attribute their merit to it, regardless if they know about the nofap movement or not.
You're just mad that you lack the discipline to do it, and seeing others share their success makes you angry.

>>76931762
Yea they only did it before day of competition for like a week. Not an entire life you absolute geek

>>76931648
>No, it isn't.
>t. made it up
Actual studies say it is, but I really dgaf if you care you're wrong.

>>76931762
>what is superstitions
>what is placebo
you know athletes sometimes also only carried around the same bag they had since high school to better prepare for competition. i guess we should all carry old equipment around to better improve our health

>>76929968
Now this is autism

>>76931776
>>76931782
Whatever helps you cope.
>>76931781
It has never been proven that not jerking off will cause you cancer, or that jerking off might reduce risk of cancer.
All studies claiming it are worthless association studies that do not prove causality in any way.
Fags like you will believe anything that justifies their bad habits, that's why people keep spouting this unproven bullshit.

If you disagree, prove it. Explain exactly how jerking off prevents cancer. Which mechanism does cause the reduction in cancer risk?
You can't explain it, because it isn't real. At most, you'll post a link that proves nothing and scurry away from the conversation like a cockroach.

>>76929968
>Donna: But, you know, next time, be like a normal person. Go to your room, lock the door, light some candles, put on some Al Green and make an evening of it.
>Eric: Wow, Donna, that was really detailed.
>Eric: it's almost like oh, my god.
>Eric: you do it, too!
>Donna: What? no, no!
>Eric:I noticed the candles getting lower, even though I'd never seen them lit!
>later
>Kelso: So they make an evening of it?
>Eric: Yeah, candles, music. God, girls do everything better.
you took that episode of that 70s show to heart, huh?

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>>76931074
Inspirational story, anon.
I am going to add that the positive effects of nofap are 100% physical and psychosomatic in addition to developing positive skills like willpower.
The (((science))) is wrong; fapping does not prevent cancer.
The (((science))) is wrong again; T levels don't level out after 6-7 days. They keep rising and normalizing until you hit a healed level.
The healing process doesn't take a single week or a single month; it may even take several years to truly heal from the physical damage caused by porn and fap.

As an example, it has been well-studied that pain response after (((circumcision))) is altered for life.
Men who were made circumslaves as infants display lower pain tolerance for the rest of their lives, unless they do something to fix it like martial arts or other physically strenuous activity.

>>76932185
Further, fapping and porn causes direct physical damage, especially to circumslaves.
It causes scarring and highly keratinized benis that is only fixable through reversing circumcision and nofap

if youre able to nofap then you have dpression.

>>76932077
you know what I didnt realize it but I definitely did have that rattling around in my head

>>76932261
brutal blackpill

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>>76929955
Nofap is a meme. For me, anyway. You see, if I dont ejaculate somehow, it just comes out in my sleep via a dream. And Im 47!

>>76929955
2 weeks is the sweet spot for me. Ill usually have a cheeky wank if it gets to 14 days without sex and be fine.

>>76929955
Im a /fraud/ and so I'm horny as fuck all of the time. I just use my wife and sometimes I cage myself. Makes me do all sorts of degenerate shit to her and she loves controlling my ability to nut when she knows I'm flowing with a ton of hormones.

>>76932330
what’s the best cycle for raising libido?

>>76932066
>All studies claiming it are worthless association studies that do not prove causality in any way.
Almost all studies are associative but there isn't an obvious third variable that would cause this result, unlike the bogus studies on salt and blood pressure (People who eat french fries for every meal).

>If you disagree, prove it. Explain exactly how jerking off prevents cancer. Which mechanism does cause the reduction in cancer risk?
Evacuating your prostate removes irritants.

>>76929968
You know what? Fuck it I'm gonns try thst too

You fags will make all the excuses in world to keep watching porn and or touching yourself. More women for me, cuck bitches.

>>76932299
>>76932494
also if someone needs porn to fap? depresssoin

>>76932312
>You see, if I dont ejaculate somehow, it just comes out in my sleep via a dream.
good sign for your health desu

>>76930390
Aha, ok, eat shit.
You seem to know more abour reddit than me.
I use space as I feel like, because I am fucking massive.
>>76931671
Read studies about nofap.
Type into google "no masturbation effects on testosterone " and skip the forums. Read actual studies. There are a few with real people.
They all point to test level raises within a week and then the body returns to normal.
The body doesnt "use up" testosterone, wtf are you talking about

But anyways, you'll just have to live with it.

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>>76929955
Yes, stop gooning

>>76932849
Meanwhile Orthodox Jews will not even shake a woman's hand if they're not related

>>76929968
I bought some video game inspired candles a while ago, maybe I should start doing this.

>russian bots, pajeets, and 2016 election tourists get tricked into getting early onset ED
Lol. Lmao, even.

>>76929955
It could "break it" and ruin your life but that's on you and you only
As you start testing stuff and experimenting with periods of abstinence you may discover a whole new word of sex and desire, and experience the destruction of what you previously loved and used as refuge. That may shock you and disturb you, which could cause erection issues and for you to seethe and mald (if you don't accept change, get better pleasure dispencers, feel betrayed, etc.)
why?
I, for example, discovered I sucked at masturbating, couldn't orgasm but only came all my life and sometimes just happened to reach a shitty orgasm if lucky, I just did shitty stuff, rushed it, didn't concentrate, didn't enjoy the feeling itself but the fantasy around it, didn't explore my body (you don't need toys up the pooper, faggot), I'd started gorilla gripping my shit after a while and didn't know, thought I had PE but I was just a degenerate
Learned that touch pleasure, mind pleasure and horny pleasure are 3 totally separate things and how to handle them.
I learned to differentiate horny from wanting pleasure from wanting to masturbate from wanting sex from wanting porn, etc,
Wanting imagination vs porn vids vs written, vs images vs drawings vs people,
It totally settled all porn that isn't for a fantasy/fetish (which you learn to distance yourself from. so you like the thing for yourself or between the people, not what you see or hear), an "exclusive show" or a thing I wouldn't mind to just participate in is: gay, bad for your mind, cuck trains, glows, it's not actually good or hot, it doesn't make the experience better, it may ruin your orgasm,etc..
So, you know, you may shit your pants and frown a bit if you are a coomer. But at the end you may learn tantric sex and to cum from imagination and shit if you work a bit plus fix your entire sex and solo sex life.
I'll say worth it.

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>>76932868
Meanwhile Orthodox jews literally think its OK to rape prepubescent children.

>>76929968
>light scented candles
>put little roses on the bed
>grab my favorite softcore erotica
>put on Tailor Swift best summer mix
its time boys

>>76932901
Stop watching porn, faggot.

>>76932962
kys faggot

>>76929955
Anyone who says there's tangible benefits to No Nut or Semen Retention are larping faggots.
Doing no goon for over a month completely kills your motility. All the excess sperm gets reabsorbed back into your body. In many case, it can kill sperm count if you don't have a healthy diet.

I do a month of No Nut maybe 3 months out of the year, but not consecutively.
The only reason why I engage in semen retention cycles is because I like the feeling of how my dick getting swole from being backed up.

My honest to God opinion is just nut when you feel your dick aching. Whether that takes two week or three week, or even 2 days, go for it and stop worry about what dick watchers on the Internet think.

Retarded self help that preys on depressed men
If you’re a healthy male it’s natural to spread your seed. Only brainlets let it consume their thought process

>>76933019
And stop watching porn, of course.

>>76933031
What the fuck does this have to do with anything I said?

>>76929968
>like a girl
>masturbating once a week
Lmao women are hornier than us, retard.

>>76929968
this is gayer than getting fucked in the ass on stage of a broadway musical

>>76933068
you just outed yourself as a virgin bro

>>76932743
>reddit spaces
>gets called out
>stops reddit spacing
>still tries a very lame clapback
Spiritual defeat on all levels

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>>76933088
You defeated them and scared them off for now, fren; But, remember (((sandpeople))) always return and often in greater numbers or with more bots.
>Sand people noises

>>76929955
doesn't work for me. I feel more distracted and horny all the time if I don't cum for more than a day.

Instead of nofap, is there a way to reduce libido? I got a new job and simply don't have the time to fuck three times a day like I used to.

>>76929955
>is nofap worth it or am I gonna break my dick?
It lowered my test a ton so I obv did something wrong.

>>76933083
some girls are crazy coomers brah, like massive multiple orgasm goon sessions several times a week. skill issue if you've never been told this

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>>76934471
I would be too if I had no refractory period, able to experience earth-shattering orgasms, and mind-blowing ecstasy over and over and over again just from rubbing my self-lubing groin.

No fap is pretty important if you're in a relationship. My wife gets extremely turned on with how crazy I get after a few of days without intimacy and then she does whatever I want to satisfy me.

>>76930361
Based Cole Robinson disciple

nofap has kinda fucked me up and actually made me afraid to cum. and now i have all this fear and guilt to deal with surround anything sexual

>>76934967
>just from rubbing my self-lubing groin
That's the fun part, girls can fap with pretty much anything, apparently the water stream from the shower head is the best.

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>>76929955
Is nofap worth doing if I won't have sex anyway? I had a 3 months long streak once, but didn't notice any real benefit besides having more energy.

>>76932261
Seems right desu