how do you work out your shoulders with a home gym, or even no weights? i never found i made any gains doing ohp's, side lateral raises, front raises and a bunch of other stuff that was supposed to do shoulders with dumbbells.
>>76932019>foot on railing shoulder pushups get a gym membership>2-4x heavy/hypertrophy deltsGet form that doesnt cause impingement so you can hammer it all the time. Way more important than lifting yourself into injury every session.
no weights? pike pushup progression into handstand pushup progression
Push against a door frame. Like this children's "trick" (if it can even be called that) but for gains. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ3A_-rq8b0
This guy also probably has some tips for shoulders. Maybe you can find the entire tape. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqn6bDA0B9k
>>76932070>pike pushup progressionthis?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj3esh9ZZhUlooks good, will add it to my routine.
>>76932052>foot on railing shoulder pushupsdid you mean pike progression?
>>76932084how tf ... hold on lemme try.if this gives me shoulder gains i will eat my hat.
>>76932121yes. that's the best shoulder push you're going to get with no weights
>>76932142what about with weights? i never found i got anything from ohp's etc, where am i going wrong? i see other gains but not shoulders
>>76932128Probably similar but you can just put your feet on a ledge to lower resistance and actually hit shoulders for calisthenics, similar to dips being superior to even clap pushups. Pullups better than any calisthenics row variation. Calisthenics aren't heavy at all, the lifts people progress at most are pullups/dips/abs/pistol squats/shoulder pushups if they can do any given workout starting out. Also most of the progression(at a specific lift rarely hypertrophy(pullups are the exception) or freeweight strength with calisthenics) is from the ability to hammer out sets all the time. Calisthenics objectively suck if you have access to weights unless you're adding some dips/pullups or whatever for a specific movement. Out of any kind of weightlifting not using the barbell is gonna leave too much on the table imo. Dips and pullups are sick though.
>>76932155not sure sorry, maybe someone else will have answers
>>76932155Try elbows in, no triceps prison reps and don't lose brace. I like doing highish incline for delts by keeping the pocket a little higher than normal benching.
>>76932158>Dips and pullups are sick though.gotta get a home system sorted for these, i have no good door frames to do pull ups on.recommendations?>>76932174>no triceps prison repsu w0t m8?
>>76932178I use the deck or railing for dips. Use 2 chairs back part inside you aren't putting up 400lbs total no offense it's fine until you get a gym membership. >>76932178Yeah shits sick I even do narrow mp for mid delts, develop the pocket.
>>76932196>pockets>prison repsi don't wanna do jail time boss, i'm not cut out for that world.seriously though please explain what you mean, i do not know all the lingo :(
>>76932208Do like 80% elbows in and angled grip. Even on bench you can do a faux neutral grip with thumbless and rotated. Typically start inside then barely move out then work on it, wide grip is more mid delts and pec minor depending on if upright presses vs flat bench. Try some suoer narrow no incline mp like a front raise for full shoulder hypertrophy shits not easy.
>>76932222>pocketFocusing one muscle in a certain rom/angle say chest based bench>prison repsSame thing, they lift all day in prison every day so you have to get good at not getting injured.
>>76932019>home gymYour options>frontAll presses>SideBTNPDumbbell press with the correct formLateral raisesUpright rows (use dumbbells neutral to avoid potential tendon injuries or biceps tears)>rearAll rows and pull ups variationsBent over raisesWide grip rowsBand pull aparts>no weightsPushupsHandstand pushupsChin upsUpside down iron cross.
>>76932222>>76932225danke schoen, and checked!
>>76932231Gvt is unironically best for shoulders
>>76932019I like hitting the cables plus shoulder pushes/pulls(high incline/wide pullups), dbs are like presses compared to cables on raises shits sick.
>>76932019You're not lifting very hard. Some people just can't do it.
>>76932019maybe try lifting actual weights
