Look I just really like roiding but I will NOT pin daily

>>76933714
OP is a brown tranny.

>>76933760
Not true I am a greek god shaped in the image of Jesus Christ.

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Should I just start TRT?

33 y/o, 6’1, ~200 lbs
2 kids, and I feel like I never have energy and every trip to the gym is a chore. Would TRT give me more energy?

I also don’t want to lose my hair though

Pic related is me.

>>76934143
Do you do cardio? I would say to get your cardio conditioning good and see how that affects your energy levels through the day. Also eat some oats in the morning and avoid anything high glycemic index.

Your body composition looks good and I doubt you even have low T. But if you are doing cardio and eating right then definitely go get a blood test and see if test levels are a problem

>>76934153
I don’t do specific cardio sessions at the gym. Partially due to time constraints

I take my dog and kids for a walk every day but that definitely isn’t very intense.

I have probably 2 good steam showers a week, 20 mins or so which gets my heart rate way up but I doubt it’s anywhere as good as real cardio.

Oh boy I can’t wait to see my blood pressure readings on Dbol this weekend!

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ending my cycle in 2 weeks and can't wait to debloat my face

Do you get lots of attention from girls on roids?

>>76934958
Not more than I usually got.

>>76934958
I do, bitches love the veins for some reason

>>76934958
Night and day difference, it’s not just girls but everyone in general; everyone treats you great, free food at local places, comments all the time, catcalling. It gets even better when single digits.

Never going back, permablasting this shit

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>>76933748
EOD is worth it. Changed my life with E2 problems, and that was caused by pinning twice a week. I strongly recommend as much as possible and using Test C instead of E because of the slightly longer half life.

>>76934143
Honestly great natty physique but just having consistent hormones alone is well worth it even if your T is decent. People think 800ng/dL natty is the same as enhanced... not even close. Way higher free T (more important than total) and super stable regardless of shit sleep or stress. That shit drops hard when natty unlike enhanced. I'd do it... best decision of my life.

>>76934958
Yes. I fuck very hot girls now, but I am also 6'4, rich, own a super car, and am a tech CEO lol. But the physique and confidence were the final piece I needed to fuck and get attention from 10/10 women desu. Even men just respect me more... it's one of the biggest life hacks ever. You don't even need to look jacked, just bigger and leaner really makes you look way more masculine and put together.

>>76935057
Another win for EQ!

>>76934958
Maybe. I've certainly had more comments and gotten laid more. I'm also 10 years older since the last time I dated and less of a dork.

>>76935096
Primo does this for me granted I am hoping my supply I bought before the shortage holds me off a couple more months lol

>>76935088
I hate needles very much just the initial stab and slow push until I feel it hit the muscle inside and then the rest of the needle to the base then applying pressure to the plunger while not slipping the syringe sideways or having the hear my dog bark outside my bathroom door while he is soooo lonely while I spend 10 minutes alone doing my draw and routine.

>>76935119
How do you pin? I sit on the toilet in the morning of my pins (EOD) and use a 27G 1/2" needle and stab it in quick to my VGs. It makes pinning pretty damn smooth and I don't feel shit. I don't like needles either but this has made pinning much easier over 20 months or so I've been doing it. Pinning more often also means less oil each pin too. The 27G 1/2" made it so much easier even if I gotta put more pressure on the plunger to have it go in.

new to lifting weights, just benched 1pl8 for the first time. should i try trenbolone?

>>76935122
25g 1” into Lats 1.5ml any size bigger is worse to stab anything smaller sucks to push the plunger.

>>76933714
I think I'm falling to the blast and cruise rhetoric, I just want to be back to pinning already and I've only been doing PCT for 1.5 months. Only upside of being off the stuff is work isn't as boring, no idea if other guys get this, but being on gear at work makes the days feel significantly longer.

>>76934143
Get your test levels checked, I was feeling like shit starting around 32 and it turns out my natty level was 279 ng/dl. Waking up was hard, being productive was hard, existing was hard, body felt like shit, etc. TRT fixed it all.

>>76935131
Give VGs and a 27G needle a try... if you're pushing 1.5mls, then you can still do twice a week or whatever you're doing, but I promise EOD is a massive game changer for E2 and the amount of oil I was pushing. I used to dread twice a week pins because the oil amount made pinning suck and uncomfortable... now I do 0.8ml each time no problem and don't mind it really at all.

>>76934143
Fwiw higher end trt dosages and beyond make me lethargic. I don't think testosterone automatically means energy. Androgens tax the system, even within natural physiological limits. I'm skeptical of any non-placebo energy benefit unless you are actually hypogonadal.

>>76935146
Next cruise I promise I will try but I just don’t give a shit to try new spots after figuring out Lats are amazing.

>>76934143
Get blood tests. <$100 and you'll know if you need it.

>>76935134
B&C is the end result for everyone. You're just coming to the correct conclusion. Embrace it.

>>76935134
There's literally no reason to pct, you can just pin 100mg test if you want natty test levels

>>76934187
Run you fucking goon. Walking does jack shit. You can afford a 10 minute run session on a treadmill 5 days a week. Set it at 7mph and go.

>>76935561
Running on a treadmill is the dumbest thing ever. Just go run outside. Forces you to keep running. Oh shit I just ran 4 miles away from my house? Gotta turn around and run back. Treadmill is boring and easy to hop off.

The only running you should be doing is running more steroids.

What drugs do i need to keep my balls working and not get tits?

>>76935437
BBC is the end result for my wife.
>>76935584
LITERALLY THIS
>>76935590
hcg hgh

>>76935599
How much hcg and do i pin it with my test?

>>76935602
Aromatose Inihibitor for no titties.
hCG for balls or just cruise at a TRT dose for a while.

>>76935166
No, its because your aromatizing at a higher trt dose and refuse to use AI. High estrogen fucks you. Don’t listen to boomers, elevated estrogen aint it.
>>76935128
For all of the memes I see about tren, almost nobody I know uses it. Everybody ive given a bottle of ace to says it drives them crazy, makes me feel normal lmao.
>>76935114
I have like fucking 40 bottles of primo 200 and i’m hating my life for buying it. Much prefer mast prop.

>>76935673
I think Tren makes those predisposed to schizo disorders fall into them further, but those of us who already are deep into the diagnosed mental abyss just come out as better than we are sober. Because I am in love with Tren.

Anybody tried test phenylpropionate? How does it compare to test prop or ace?

Anyone ever run tesamorelin? I'm planning to do my first real hard cut from April to June. 200 test, retatrutide, and winny for the last 2-3 weeks. Apparently the tesa burns visceral fat which would be good for ab definition

>>76935860
All of those growth hormone releasing agents are trash, especially if you're already on gear. Pay for growth hormone or just let the reta do the fat burning for you.

>>76933714
What markets do you guys like that shop to US? My last distributor for test stopped shipping to my state

>>76936914
if only there was an electronic roid website that listed shops and reviews and ranked them

>>76935860
Burning visceral fat is good, but walk me through how (in your mind) burning fat that is definitionally deep to the muscles will enhance ab definition?
Also, just pin gh. It’s cheaper than running these stupid gh releasing hormones and even has the added bonus of actually working

>>76935860

You can get quality GH for under $0.65 per IU. Run that instead of a secretouge.

>>76936969
If only there were a place where you could find out about people doing steroid source talk online.

>>76935860
i have been taking the shit for months and can't say I have noticed it doing anything at all.

What can I do while injured to keep my gains going/static on cycle?

Best acne treatment besides accutane?
When I first started I only got a few on my chest now it has spread to my face too so I can't just ignore it anymore.

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Hey, I'm starting somatropin here, 1iu daily to start. Any tips on how to tell if I should increase? 5'11" 180lbs
Also, can I use the same needle to inject on days I inject cypionate and reta? Or should I just do different plunger/needle?

>>76937320
idk im probably getting on the Tane Train though

>>76937037
Seriously, growth is so cheap now. Even running body builder 20iu ed doses costs like 390 a month.
>>76937320
You should dial in your ai, and increase dosing frequency. I have almost zero acne running 4 compounds because of ED dosing.
>>76937372
No, it's extremely harsh on your liver IMO, only do it if you need, and you probably don't. I found it harsher on me than running multiple orals and tren at the same time.

>>76937420
If I run more Asin then my skin gets dry and rash on my neck/pits… i’d rather my liver suffer some accutane.

>>76935642
hold up what?

You can regain your balls size while still taking exogenous test? I though even the low TRT dose boomers use causes atrophy

>>76935570
I do both. I prefer outdoor running but the weather is ass right now and I don't want to ruin my good shoes in shit.

>>76935673
>>76935688
I really wanna try tren purely for the mental effects I see some people report. I am normally not an aggressive person whatsoever so I really don't think I'd get rage from it, and honestly if I do I imagine it'll just get me to... Normal person levels of aggression at best. Everyone I talk to tells me it makes them a cocky confident megalomaniac, and honestly my best progress in life as a whole has been when I was in a delusional state. Really wanna take tren just to induce megalomania.
>>76937320
Accutane with azithromycin (pulse) for the first few weeks is the gold standard, but if you're truly opposed to it, azithromycin pulse therapy on its own is pretty effective. Better than doxycycline imo and I've used both. But it'll come back.

>>76937457
Steroids aren't all completely 100% suppressive, it's a range. Your balls are gonna still function just at a dramatically reduced rate, and it's dosage AND compound specific.

>>76937543
lol I have this same feeling too. I want to induce megalomania.

But it is also kind of dangerous. I think I would have to completely quit drinking because the combination of being on tren and being drunk is just a felony waiting to happen.

>>76937552
I get that but im pretty sure test is suppressive enough that you are balls are never gonna grow while you are on it. I read a study that showed that if you give someone TRT below their natural test levels, they actually lose strength and muscle mass.

So even less test than you would naturally make is STILL suppressive.

What do you think of my first cycle.

Current:
HGH 4IU/day
cjc (no DAC) + ipamorelin 200mcg ea. 2X daily

Week 1 - 3:
hcg 500 IU EOD
exemestane 6.25 - 25mg/day
HGH 6IU/day
cjc (no DAC) + ipamorelin 200mcg ea. 2X daily

Week 4 - 8:
hcg 1000 IU EOD
exemestane 6.25 - 25mg/day
HGH 8IU/day
cjc (no DAC) + ipamorelin 200mcg ea. 2X daily
anadrol sublingual 12.5mg 2X daily

Week 9 - 12:
hmg 75IU EOD
enclomiphene 25mg/day
nolva/exemestane as needed
HGH 4IU/day
cjc (no DAC) + ipamorelin 200mcg ea. 2X daily

>>76937543
I am a ticking timebomb on Tren I am always one little thing away from punching my desk or a wall. But i just clench my fist and after a second or two it dissipates. Feel great though and coom hard.

Why are my muscles impossibly sore? Am I possibly going too hard on AI? What could even cause this? I’m not training any harder in this blast than any other. But I’m in fucking agony. And it’s the muscle (mostly back and legs) not soft tissue.

Also what in the fuck is this captcha

>>76934958
Girls no, guys yes.

>>76937571
>meme cycle from leddit
here nigger, 500 test 3iu hgh ed and 300 iu hcg 3x week.

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>>76937571

I am having sex tomorrow but have to pin also… thoughts?

>>76938213
What does that have to do with anything. I pin EOD and have sex all the time.

>>76938220
Idk I just wanted to subtly let you guys know I have sex.

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>>76938224
Fair enough. Take Cialis EOD it's great for pumps and also for sex.

>>76938226
My Dbol and Viagra comes tomorrow so I will give a nice test run of it.

>>76937919
>>76937976
Yeah but reddit is anti-secretagogue and anadrol is the least zoomer steroid there is

Does anyone else have issues with extreme insomnia? Started 250mg test every 3 days, 250iu hcg eod about 2 months ago, taking .5mg arimidex once a week. E2 levels are steady in the 1/20 - 1/25 ratio with my test levels, not really experiences any other negative side effects. Im getting absolutely fucking murdered with insomnia though. I cannot fall asleep, ill be up for 24+ hours regularly and when I finally do crash its a very shitty sleep with me waking up every hour or so, and only getting like 4 hours of sleep total. I feel physically drained but I just cannot get tired enough to sleep. I have massive bags forming under my eyes and I know theres no fucking way that this can be healthy for me. Ive tried taking melatonin even, double and even tripling the dose and not getting any effect.

What is this bullshit and how do I fix it?

>>76933714
So how hard is it to bring test from Thailand? I have a stopover in fucking Qatar on the way back, will arabs rape me at the customs?

>>76937919
why would i do 500 test a week? That seems like a lot

>>76938740
I don't roid and just coincidentally reading this but I got the same when I was really pushing myself in the gym. I looked into it and it seems to be related to cortisol levels. It went away when I cut my sessions shorter and stopped the most fatiguing lifts. I don't know what test does to cortisol levels

>>76939042
I have insame isomnia off cycle like to the point where I was prescribed hardcore blood pressure medication to knock me out. Now on cycle I sleep like a baby without anything.

>>76938232
OK SO APPARENTLY POST OFFICE IS FUCKING FAGGOTS AND WONT DELIVER IT UNTIL MONDAY PROBABLY
COOL COOL COOL

>>76939011
top kek

How much of the strength gains will I keep from tren or orals once I stop them?
If I lose all of them what's the point in taking them? Or are there people who take tren without stopping?

>>76939816
I plan on taking Tren until I die. Orals I will stick with cycles because I know they disappear as soon as you stop taking them after a few days.

>>76935119
oh my god dude use different pins. i've been buying the cheapest slin pins i could find, but recently started at a clinic as well so i could have a scrip. the kit they sent is godly compared to what i've been doing. there's almost zero pressure applied to the surface of my skin, whereas the cheap ones i'd have a big divot from pushing the pin on it before it would actually pierce the skin. then it'd have that sharp pain with it, too. the new needles are like... a slight poke, and absolutely nothing as you push in for muscle. so fucking smooth. and being the leur lock they sent 21g and 25g. drawing even cold from the garage mct in seconds. 25 seems too big to me still, but it's so buttery smooth i havent bothered to look at alternatives. i'll post again with brand info

>>76934958
Selfworth, social skills and status are all more important. Roiding isnt a shortcut to chaddom

>>76939881
I will probably jump to 27 gauge next time I buy, I just don't expect things to go smooth with holidays currently. Next purchase I will try new things.

What are your thoughts on adding between 30mg - 100mg of nandrolone per week to 120mgTest 30mgPrimo per week?

>>76939929
tiny ass doses do 200 test 100 primo 100 nand
it wont kill you that is still very little you can cruise on it forever

>>76940021
>cruise on it forever
You really mean this? cos im tryna do trt+ not blast and cruise.

>>76940064
yea just do bloodwork once or twice a year
take p5p for the nand just in case
doubt you need AI with that low test dose and you got primo too so e2 should be good

>>76940064
not him but thats a pretty big ass load of androgens to cruise on. 200 test alone will probably put you at like 1200 ng/dl test level. Cruising at that level is probably fine, but throwing 100 primo and 100 deca on top... I would feel fine doing that for a long time but if we are talking about a decade of it I would bet its pretty unacceptably bad for your heart.

Recently my sleep has been getting a lot worse. I used to never wake up at night, but now every night at 3 am I wake up. I used to get around 7 hours of sleep without an alarm and could fall back asleep on the weekends if I tried for another 2 hours.

Now on top of the waking up in the night I'm lucky if I get 6 hours of sleep. The only thing that has changed medication wise was I started taking tesa, which should help with sleep if anything. I've been on enclo 12.5mg for about a year now. Any chance that is fucking with me or for some reason my estrogen is going crazy? I have switched my diet from a deficit to maintenance, can that boost my estrogen? I've had an uptick in acne too.

I'm running a test 500 / deca 300 cycle but I think my deca is phony (different labs). How can I check the deca?
Should I run 1-2 weeks with higher dose of deca and no test to see if I get deca dick?
Any other ideas?

I want to start but have a high LDL (162). Am fit otherwise and all other bloods are fine.

Bad idea?

>>76933714
Red pill me on Cagrilintide.
I'm using reta but about to roll back to tirz because of the increased RHR.

>>76940654
Start what? TRT, blasting?
You can start low dose trt like 100mg but you really need to do some cardio and try that number lower.

>>76940064
The max cruise amount for any sort of androgen should be 200mg TOTAL. Nothing more.
100mg test, 50mg primo, 50mg nand.

Run bloods quarterly to make sure your lipids don't go to shit. Oh and make your doc do an EKG to check for LVH.

>>76940696
TRT.

Bro, cardio doesn’t lower LDL.

>>76940700
It is 400 total actually

>>76940542
Send to janoshik, only way to know. Also don't run high test and nandrolone.
>>76940654
Your diet is too shit to consider gear, and probably why you want to hop on gear in the first place. Chicken broccoli and rice for a few months then check again if you still feel the need for gear.

>>76940728
My diets pretty fine. I’m like 5’10 165lbs, leanish 15% bf. I think it might be genetic or high saturated fat? I do also eat eggs every day.

>>76940692
It's a strange one, so many anecdotes of zero effectiveness. Even when titrating up to 2MG fairly quickly. For me on the other hand .25MG hit like a truck and I was needing to spit food out mid chew. This was stacked with 15 tirz. So you almost have to try it yourself and see if you are a responder. If a responder it could be good or bad, if you're trying to quickly drop fat and on a PSMF type diet, perfect. If you need to get in 200 grams of protein AND 200 grams of carbs, you may be unable to force it down. Eventually the fatigue of the combined high dose of triz and cagri was too much and I switched to reta/cagri

This entire thread

>>lgbt

>>76936996
Long story but I have a genetic high concentration
of visceral fat in the abdomen
>>76936189
>>76937037
>>76937077
Noted. Do I have to do a deep dive on GH, or can I just run on the low side and forget about it?

>>76940732
do cardio, if that's too hard for you then dont fw gear

>>76939929
Baby doses

>>76940654
Do you fast or have you been losing weight? That can increase LDL temporarily.

>>76933714
/faggot/ general.

>>76940728
>Also don't run high test and nandrolone.
Why?

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>>76937334
I am interested, can anyone answer?

>>76940700
thanks for this advice.

>>76939520
why are you kek'ing? Im serious

>>76940703
> Things you're speaking about out your ass.
Yes it does you dumb nigger and I can see the difference now that I do cardio 5 days a week.

>>76941872
Anon said it best earlier about you cardio faggots. The only running you should be doing is more gear.

>>76942001
Seriously hope you fags don’t skip your cardio

>>76942041
I jerk off a lot and get my blood flowing does that count?

I wanna get into HcG Would it be safe to do HcG recreative? it seems fun to do Anyone doing it just for fun? What are the side effects you felt and if you quit using it you felt a bad change in you?

>>76942129
back to calcutta you stinky fucking jeet, how dare you disgrace my native tongue with your broken piss poor street shitting attempt to speak english. what a fucking abomination you are, isnt there a pile of COW SHIT that needs eaten up? get to work caste slave

>>76939922
hey apologies for the delay. so it wasn't even the gauge so much for me? i use 27g when i'm pushing large volume, but even that one hurts more than the 25g the clinic sent. i recall seeing manufacturers having different ways of cutting the tips to reduce burrs, and coating them in something to make them glide smoother. might be that? i dunno. anyway, the nice ones i have are bd precision glide

>>76942236
Appreciate it, I will get a cart going and place the order soon. I have tried like 3 brands and the higher gauge felt better but idk if I have thick skin it just always is a pain to get that initial poke out of the way. Cheers anon and merry christmasu!

>>76942129
"recreational" use would be good for experiencing a better orgasm, but the problem would be increased estrogen and the side effects that come with it
>>76942150
types much more like a brazillian than jeet but hey I feel ya

>>76942150

Topkek why americans gets so offended with foreigners trying to talk in their language? We get fun when foreigner try our language.

>>76940728
Seriously what is wrong with running 500 test e 300 nandrolone?

>>76942333
lol hcg doesn't change how orgasms feel I am pretty sure you are getting this information from menopausal women who have zero estrogen or some shit.

I started 400mg test c/wk 2 months ago. Holy fuck my cock will not go down. I have that "tingly" feeling you get when you don't fuck for a week on a daily basis. I have fucked 3 massage parlor girls since Thursday and my wallet cannot withstand my need to fuck mercilessly. Tinder dates happen too, but not fast enough. I'm so fucking horny now. I also masturbate once or twice a day. I'm losing my mind.

I also take maca, l arginine, zinc, fish oil, vitamin b/d/k, and a multi on top of it. I think it's too much. I literally start shaking if I don't cum after 24 hours. Beyond that I start having panic attacks and pacing. It's also interfering with me at work.

>>76942497
The internet used to be fucking amazing before third world poorfags got it. fuck every person who does not share my background

>>76942539
Nothing as long as prolactin and e2 are in check :)

>>76940183
Asking about this again in case any of you have some wisdom to share here. The shit ass sleep and feeling tired every day is getting old bros...

>>76942649
sleep just gets worse as you get older in general. You should get a blood test and start systematically trying to eliminate factors. Look into "sleep hygine" and there are a lot of sleep supplements and shit out there. For me THC gummies make me sleep like a rock but I think studies show they aren't that good. Everyone says magnesium glycenate is good. I havent noticed that it did anything for me.

>>76942649
Vitamin d and cut out caffeine.

>>76942649
your brain is overactive
take something to slow your brain activity at night
not to sound like a faggot but maybe ask a licensed doctor for a prescription

>>76942655
>>76942666
>>76942667
Thanks bros. I would have thought age would mess with my sleep slower over time than this. The descent to the most absolute shit sleep of my life has been pretty sudden. I do take magnesium and glycine but I don't feel like the effect is major. I did do a comprehensive blood panel, all my vitamins and minerals are in the green. My D3 is 89 ng/ml but my cortisol was a bit high at 22 mcg/dl.

I'm going to try cutting out caffeine for sure, mind you I wasn't drinking any past noon. Melatonin does help me fall asleep a little faster and stay asleep more consistently but I was trying to avoid relying on something for sleep. Worst case it is a good idea to talk to a doctor though. It's super easy to get a prescription for a sleep med.

Before I start any sleep med I'll probably try cycling the enclo to see if that does anything too.

>>76940732
>My diets pretty fine
Your LDL is 162 and you're natty. It's not fine. My lipids are better on a gram+. Eat healthy for a few months and check again. Healthy being low fat, high (soluble) fiber. Basically, chicken breast broccoli (and other fibrous veg) and rice. You should not consider steroids until you're healthy in most every other aspect of your life.

>>76942599
Stop the maca and l arginine for one. No health benefits of either if you're under 40 and don't suffer from erectile dysfunction. What's your age? Also you might want to find a long term relationship with someone that can keep up. Those women exist for sure.

>>76942698
if you see a doctor go for benzos over ambein. lesser of two evils. anything else is snake oil. start low dose and dont be a retard by taking them during the day just to veg out.
any purists wanna cry about me promoting rx shit well FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
ha ha just kidding

>>76940848
As long as you keep it under 8 iu or so daily you’ll be fine. I run like 5 iu on cruise and 8+ on blasts (with low dose reta). Been doing it for years, perfect blood sugar

>>76942765
>benzos over ambien
ambien falls in the benzodiazepine class of drugs though, is this a bot post?

>>76942819
Not him but nobody considers ambien to be a benzo faggot I don’t care if it technically is, it doesn’t act in the same way as other benzos. Xanax, klonopin, Valium etc all more pre less feel exactly the same and give you and alcohol-like effect on anxiety. Ambien doesn’t really feel good like that it just makes you fall asleep and can give some minor visual hallucinations which no benzos do (unless you’re ODing or something)

That being said I disagree with the post. Ambien is way better than relying on benzos that you can get terribly addicted to. I have casually used ambien for years and never really felt addicted to it. Maybe dependent to get to sleep but not addicted in the same way a benzo addict is who fiends for his drug and shit

Also you are a tremendous faggot for taking this tone when you clearly are just googling shit and don’t know anything

>>76942842
rohypnol is also a benzo but you wouldnt know anything about that would you, rapebait fagboy.

>>76942001
The irony is I have labs showing a lipid improvement from cardio while on cycle. So fuck off with your advice which will kill someone.

>>76942332
fo sho! hope it works out. quick check... the syringe isnsome leur lock twist on thing, then i have 21g for drawing, and 25g for pinning. i think they're both one inch, and entirely too long for me, but, whatever.

>>76942497
right? only place i've ever had problems with the locals while trying to speak their language is paris, a but even other french people dont like parisians. bunch of a-holes haha

>>76942938
>t. DYEL never-gainsed