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what's the point in working out more than twice per week. isn't hitting the same exercise twice per week enough to stimulate progress? like, just do a full body routine twice per week and you could use all that other energy for something else like not being an autistic neet
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Full body is boring as shit plus doing cardio everyday and seeing cuties at the gym is fun
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>just do a full body routine twice per week

Yeah except as you progress you will find it increasingly difficult to get a good workout on your whole body. Then you split it up into push and pull and then next thing you know you are doing PPL because it just makes sense. Spending an hour in the gym 2 days instead of 2 hours 1 day is just a lot easier to manage for most people.
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>>76939319
english motherfucker
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>>76939328
I think you are the one who needs to work on your english if that post was confusing for you, Ranjesh
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>>76939296
Everything between x1.5 and x2 is the same for frequency with adjusted volume.

There's potentially more gains with x2.33 to x3 but it's tricky because you have to balance injury risk and strength/fatigue recovery. You can put up the same weight with x3 a week easy. But if you're actually trying to add weight and keep it on the bar x3 is going to be a struggle past the beginning year.
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>>76939401
Are we all retarded for fitness studies? We all know there is a natty limit. Heck there is a roid monkey limit too. I've never seen a 600lb pure muscle man lifting. Which means the "rate of growth" depends on where you are in your journey to your natural limit. If 1.5x to 2.33x is the best for gaining, what if I'm at only 25% of my natural limit vs 80%? It all depends. I did the most growth doing ppl 6 days a week at 18 with a crap diet. I did less at 30 with a dialed diet, though I did get stronger (just not larger). And at 34, I'm working out 1-2 times a week with a great diet and look about the same except I'm less toned and weaker (due to a back injury). In other words, studies suck and everyone should ignore them. Work out until you are sore the next day and don't work those muscles again until they're no longer tired, sleep when you're tired, there's your work vs rest intervals.
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I've been progressing at such a crazy pace by doing 2 fbws a week with 1 set to failure + 2 rest pauses for each exercise that I basically annihilated my forearms, wrists and spine
muscles were outpacing my connective tissue hard af even though i was already a well trained individual when I started this
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>>76939296
>what's the point in working out more than twice per week
If I don't do something for two days I forget how.
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>>76939296
Iirc they've shown that gains can be at least maintained on 1 session every 2 weeks
I think that's probably especially true if you're using that time you save to do an athletic sport instead, so you're not just wasting away between sessions, but you're not blunting the gains stimulus either, but idk
I like this article for discussing training frequency for ordinary people
https://www.painscience.com/articles/strength-training-frequency.php
Basically just try it, hard enough for a long enough period of time to really see, and then report your results
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>>76939296
The way I see it, there's the variable trifecta of frequency, volume and intensity. The more you want to increase one variable the more you have to reduce the other two. So the key is to get a balance of all three in a schedule that is actually doable to you.
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>>76939503
It's one of the few things where the studies and actual coaching agree. So don't come at me with this "fuck science" bs when you don't know what the science is or what the reputable coaching recommendations are. Also you're retarded frequency is how often you're hitting a muscle not how many time you work out. PPL is x2 frequency UL is x2 frequency. Fullbody every 3rd day 2.33 fullbody every 4th day is 1.75
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>>76940278
>Iirc they've shown that gains can be at least maintained on 1 session every 2 weeks
That's been my experience. I figure once every ten days is safest. I only train the big lifts though. I've always wondered how guys who do three dozen different exercises maintain when they need a break.
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>>76939296
It really depends what you do all day

If you have a manual work that make you move your body, two full body 1hour sessions are OK to be in good health and and ok-tier fit

If you have a sit-at-desk job and you do 10 steps a day, two full body sessions are not enough to just survive 5 years without losing your low back or knees



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