Can anyone explain this proud to be natty shit?It's fucking retarded. I can see why you'd want to avoid gear for health reasons or just not wanting to deal with the fuss. But we literally have recreated 1:1 testosterone that you can just inject at any time for minimal cost. It would be like not using protein supplements because they're "not natural". Like who cares if it's natural?? I'm lifting to get big not to be one with nature.
>>76943418If you get too strong roided, you have a high level of test with barely any of it being produced naturally and will never be able to go back to natural and have any semblance of an impressive physique or strength. It will age you fast, ruin your joint health, you can't do most good drugs or much alcohol while using, probably are getting some shitty steroids that kill you. It takes some people a lifetime to get shitty progress, maybe focus on form and gain some weight first.
>>76943418If you want to ignore health and having to take it forever unless you want your small balls to fail to get you back where you started, and I don't think you should, then at least you aren't competing with pro bodybuilders and strongmen at the same game. If I roided and I looked like shit and couldn't lift much, what's my excuse then huh.
>>76943443yeah no, this is wrong. I did a few blasts, put on an insane amount of mass. Came off no PCT, kept 70-80% of it. Got my wife pregnant, back on gear and bigger than ever. >>76943452what are you even saying?? gear just makes you build muscle faster. it's not some cursed object. literal pajeet thought
>>76943418Because I don't need to cheat in life
>>76943418It's not like taking a protein shake, how retarded can you be? Protein is not a hormone that your body produces. It is a nutrient.When you take exogenous hormones, your body stops producing them on its own, and unless you quit after the first cycle, you are permanently damaged. It's not complicated.The worst part is, it's always done to paper over some mental health issue for people who are truly weak.> i don't feel sexy enough> bigger guys make me feel bad / I only feel confident when comparing myself to smaller guys> the number won't go up anymore and I'm not motivated if it doesn't go upPathetic. Sub-human thinking. For a functional, complete human being, fitness is just one aspect of being. There is so much more beyond it, and so many greater challenges to overcome. While you look in your little mirror, they look down from atop the mountain.
every roider at my gym either just looks fat from the extra water or wholy unimpressive for someone on the level they're at, i'd rather not trade a potential decade of misery and heart issues for a couple extra inches on the arms
>>76943457Heart definitely bigger than ever. Stack that shite champ!
>>76943459permanently damaged?? you kids need to stop watching after school specials. google any Mr Olympia and notice they all have kids they conceived while being a pro. insecurity is pure copium. otherwise why lift at all? anyone who lifts is lifting for the same reason people take gear.
>>76943457I enjoy drinking a lot so steroids could never be for me, also should be noted that ibuprofen+roids destroys your liver which lowers immune system function.
>>76943460All the guys I see roiding at my gym have huge upper bodies, underdeveloped legs and rarely if ever bench press and if they do it are low weights. If they go heavier they probably immediately injure their wrists, shoulders or something else. If you do this for looks and not for a sport idk what you're doing with your life. Bodybuilding is a mental illness those trophies and a few 1000 bucks isn't worth your health.
okay so it's pure cope. no more responses needed
It's a mogging thing. If we get similar results but you tried harder I won. My genetics are better.
>>76943463Coming off and / or taking hcg while on definitely helps. Or it might not. Most of them die young due to heart complications, sometimes liver as well. Cancers are also more frequent.
>>76943473Dude because they're fucking 350 pounds, doing 100x the amount of gear needed to just get normal big. Being 200 at like 10% bf is tight, being 260 at 8%bf is suicidal
>>76943463never mind the DHT byproduct which is what makes you age so fast and nukes your hairlinetell the class about how all the damage magically gets undone. I'll wait,
>>76943457>what are you even saying?? gear just makes you build muscle faster. it's not some cursed object. literal pajeet thoughtYou have that thing where test has made you super confident about the first thing you think of every minute, so shut up dumbass.I don't need gear to look good and be in the 99th percentile of lifting. If I did take it I could have detached a tendon and I'd definitely be worried about my heart and testicles.
>>76943418Natural is one less chore and factor to worry about all the time. It's not actually difficult to get impressively big, it's difficult to stumble on effective techniques, diet, programming, rehab, equipment, etc. The difference between effective and mediocre is night and day, and there's kind of a compounding effect.
>>76943418The proud to be natty shit is corny. If you're natty be natty and don't walk around with this massive chip on your shoulder expecting validation for not being on roids. But that also goes the other way if you're gonna pin just pin and be done with it don't expect people to validate what you're doing. You're injecting exogenous testosterone which will inhibit your body's natural testosterone production and will have effects on your body.> Inb4 you can take other substances to counteract those side effects.More money and even more drugs that have their own side effects just to be big. I hope you're making enough money to sustain that lifestyle otherwise > pic related
I lift because I like lifting, getting big is just a nice cherry on top. roidfags only care about getting big which is some sort of mental illness I reckon, no different than being a tranny
>>76943418>explainReal bodybuilding is about looking good, being healthy, and enhancing your fulfillment in life. Steroids eventually negate all three of those things. On a more practical level, today’s drugs are not the pure pharmaceuticals that Arnold was taking in the 70s. Pretty much everything out there is black market lab and you never know what you’re really getting. The stories of guys developing horrible abscesses and infections from injecting contaminated stuff are way too common. If you think you need to take drugs to be happy, you need to reexamine your life. Caveat: I get it if you’re competing in nod/ifbb, steroids are a requirement for that.
