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fellas, i need a challenge, how can i unironically never fap/watch porn ever again, i know there's anons here who discovered how to go beyond wizard. how to beat the urges?
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>>76962046
once I have started to actually understand what love is, including self love, the urges basically completely vanished and I only "relapse" willingly. It's a choice and not a whim that is hard to resist.

now, how you can change that perspective for yourself, I don't know. Psychedelics did it for me, but I do not recommend that unless you have a good setting, a "professional" trip sitter and have done enough introspection to know who you are
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why do you never want to fap again OP?
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>>76962056
It's partly a religious reason and a personal reason. I really also wanna challenge myself, to really conquer this desire would be fulfilling for me, I do not aim to persuade anons here to do what I wanna do. this is solely to challenge myself and also rid myself of a habit I don't aim to keep.

>>76962050
Thank you for the insight, I will definitely look into learning more about love. Especially self-love as you highlighted. I appreciate your input!


Apologies for the late reply to the both of you, just got out of nightshift.
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>>76962046
Wishing you the best in this journey anon, I'm trying to do something similar myself.

I have used porn as a cheap substitute for too long, so I will try to finally build real, meaningful relationships with other people.

I'm hoping that experiencing physical touch from another human after so long will dissolve my dependence on porn, or at least lessen it. But who knows, can't help but try.
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Porn is literal brainwashing. It’s a disease exploited by degenerates.
On the other hand, fapping is ok. I understand you have religious reasons and I will respect that, but masturbation makes no harm to the body.
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>>76962182
Thanks man, likewise I also wish you the best. Here's hoping 2026 will be a more disciplined year for all of us, it never hurts to try, godspeed anon.


>>76962185
Hard agree on the porn, it's literally poison for the brain. We may differ in our views on masturbation but I appreciate you nonetheless for giving your input!
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>>76962046
Keep fapping, because a man full of semen is an asshole due to the unsatisfied urge

For noporn, set a parental control on all device and the password must be set by another person, of course, 4chan will be blacklisted
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>>76962494
>Keep fapping, because a man full of semen is an asshole due to the unsatisfied urge
no you dumb retard. ejaculating with a lone hand like an incel turns you into a wimpy coward. if you want to ejaculate you do it inside of a woman's vagina. that way you get the energy exchange and you're not left with woman repellent incel energy
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Easypeasy ebook can help. You can find it online for free.

In my experience, it is very psychological. I found that shaming and guilting doesn’t work - it makes breaking the habit/addiction a very negative experience. Instead, focus on the improvements you will experience and be kind to yourself. Also, I externalise the urge which helped a lot. Initially, you go through intense urges to relapse that become more sporadic and easier to resist as time goes on. I personally thought of these as a fungus in my mind that gradually died as I starved it of energy but maybe a different model could work for you. Whenever an urge would arise, I would think ‘this is not me talking, this is the fungus. I don’t actually want to indulge this urge even though I’m being told I do’ and that got me through. The process was not so difficult in the early stages, then very difficult for a while, then fine. Social media/internet is a massive source of temptation so be mindful of your usage.

Other things to think about and environment and lifestyle. If you can adjust your environment to remove any cues to relapse (eg maybe some tissues on your desk), that can help. Also, I found relapsing much harder to resist when I was sad or bored so living a healthy fulfilling life is important. Good food, sleep, exercise and socialising.

Finally, I think that stopping fapping altogether is risky if you’re not having sex. The system needs to be used. If you’re having sex at least once a week, you can nofap. If under that, once per week but noporn is ideal
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>>76962046
step 1. take hand OFF penis

congrats you won
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>>76962046
I think the best cure is to unironically find a girlfriend/get a sex life that you're happy with.

Thing about porn and fapping is that all the times I recall relapsing, I was feeling incredibly lonely and depressed. I would go through the social medias of girls that I had feelings for but were out of my reach/out of my league for whatever reason and watch them having fun, I'd go out and about and see happy couples and feel nothing but so much rage that I honestly thought I'd have a heart attack.

Jerking off to porn helps to bury those feelings for at least a little while but it will never go away until you address the root cause. Trying to go cold turkey without doing that is like trying to quit painkillers while suffering from chronic pain.
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>>76962144
>I can’t fap because of my religion

What religion is this where fapping is prohibited or how is you abstaining even good for your religion?
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>>76962573
it'd take a harem, unironically
avoiding porn while still using internet/imageboards would be a ton of conscious effort for a long time until your brains forgets the stimulus - the question is, is it worth your energy? porn is a bit harmful, but it's not a hard drug and your libido is a natural limiter, maybe just focus on limiting it and use static jpgs / imagination for masturbation, don't be super strict, because it will make the relapse harder and again, it's not like porn is killing you
even if you're in a happy relationship you still get bored of fucking your girl, so you need to resort to either cheating or to masturbation to fill that gap, I think I don't need to explain which option is safer
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>>76962578
>What religion is this where fapping is prohibited
basically every Abrahamic religion says not to jerk off because God really wants you to hate yourself for some reason. I don't really know why he's just kind of a dick.
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>>76962046
>how to beat the urges?
Taper, then it becomes this
>>76962050
>I only "relapse" willingly. It's a choice and not a whim that is hard to resist.
And I don't have the answer.
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>>76962597
Actually I thought about it for a few seconds and remembered the answer, it's still tapering.
You want to be a different person, but you've been a gooner for years. You have to gradually become that different person, there's no magical mantra or reasoning that'll flip the switch and change you overnight.
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>>76962511
See ? You have to fap, asshole



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