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Is there a drug or substance to fraud being god-like socially confident and talkative and not introverted during socializing or parties? I hate being quiet and I’ve heard MAOIs will do the job, but their production stopped in 2020.
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Cocaine or so I've heard
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>>76965964
Gas station hotdogs.
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dunot beekom eh vectim of da deemon al-ghul
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>>76965964
Would using these substances to establish a baseline, to understand how socializing without stress works, help you overcoming social anxiety long-term without the use of drugs?

Like, you learn how you are supposed to act when calm and drugged, then you try to apply that sober?

It seems people keep abusing it so I guess not.
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>>76965964
>I’ve heard MAOIs will do the job, but their production stopped in 2020.
[citation needed]
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>>76965964
pop 2 xans and the concept of fear will become completely alien to you
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>>76965964
phenibut
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That’s literally what alcohol does and why alcohol is the most popular drug in the world because it accomplishes this and it’s pretty much impossible to overdose or fuck yourself up with it and it’s cheap as shit.

What do zoomers think alcohol does? Y’all think it just makes you retarded or something? The way you fags don’t drink is the second most annoying thing about zoomies. The most annoying thing is that they think social media is real life though.
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>>76966058
I will fall asleep before he manages to approach someone
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>>76965964
you just posted it
one capsule will get you going, two and you'll pretty much get drunk
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>>76965964
Those pills look like little hot dogs in the thumbnail. Imagine hot dog pills.
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>>76966241
How does pregab compare to xanax?
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>>76966088
>it’s pretty much impossible to overdose or fuck yourself up with it
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>>76966387
What a fucking idiot, right?
Jeez. Hopefully hes trolling.
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>>76965964
Yes, exposure therapy to failure. Force yourself to talk until you’re numb to it
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>>76966359
much less likely to cause blackouts or end up with you doing stupid shit due to the disinhibition unless you go waaay overboard with the dose (>450 mg with no tolerance)
you do "feel" it way more though, as in you're actually aware that you're under the influence of the drug, unlike benzos with which people start thinking they're sober and act out without noticing
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>>76965964
Obviously alcohol and cocaine

BUT if you're looking for something both legal and non-destructive then might I recommend getting a prescription for Bupropion. Closest thing there is to legal extended-release cocaine. Also it sends your sex drive into the fucking stratosphere.
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>>76966512
>Also it sends your sex drive into the fucking stratosphere

Tell that to my wife
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>>76966034
Anecdotally no, this doesnt work. What happened for me is I felt more relaxed and normal on alcohol but it never really got easier off alcohol. This is because you rely on alcohol as a crutch and also relying on alcohol to socialise results in you using alcohol a lot. Alcohol causes brain damage in consistent high amounts, even amounts you might consider socially acceptable like 30 pints of alcohol a week. Yorue something like 10x more likely to get brain damage than someone who doesnt drink at those levels.

The damage to your GABA system from long term drinking will make you more anxious sober and then the addiction to alcohol is likely settling in at this point, making it harder to resist drinking and youll find yourself in mental battles after work, in the evening, when youre shopping, to buy some alcohol. It ends up being easier to buy alcohol and drink it than to tell your brain to suck a fat one and to stop thinking about booze. Drinking booze ends up becoming the only way to make your brain shutup in signalling it wants alcohol. Alcohol becomes more important than most other things in your life, and it all starts from feeling compelled to drink it anytime you have to be social

I'd avoid it as a social crutch. Only drink for pleasure, never go down the path of self medication or its over
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>>76966621
This nigga nose. Benzos and other things are as bad or worse
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>>76966623
benzos will fuck you up mentally, are heavily addictive, and can make you do stupid shit impulsively
alcohol does the same (though it's less addictive, I suppose) but it also fucks up all of your organs in the long term
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>>76966631
I only eve rused benzos on comedowns and never got addicted. I think I did like 50 of them over the course of a year or two. So like 1 every week or two. Its strange how I never felt compelled to do them socially. Probably a good thing I didnt because it could have been game over for me. I got heavily addicted to alcohol however.
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>>76966633
yeah, the context in which you use substances matters
if you start using them as a crutch in social situations, you become dependent on them and feel compelled to take them whenever you feel like you need to let loose and make socializing easier, but this becomes a slippery slope
if you use them for comedowns exclusively, this association does not form (unless you're running stims every day with benzos for the comedown)
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>>76966631
I mixed the benos with booze and other things for years.
Being hopeless is actually kinda addicting and freeing in a way because you just live how you feel each day though it catches up.
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>>76965964
benzos

>>76966058
this guy gets it, although i'd just go with 1
you dont need more than that to get mentally lubricated
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>>76966666
BEZOS
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>>76966623
>>76966631
Benzos are one of the few drugs that can kill you in withdrawals.
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Cocaine
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>>76965964
Microdose alcohol.
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>>76966666
>quints recognized
i wouldn't fuck with xans tho
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>>76965964
for me, i would take two shots of vodka before a social event (when socially acceptable to have drinks) and that would counterbalance my autism enough to be normal for the evening. some people can do the same with weed but i don't fuck with it anymore
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>>76966088
pretty funny that this wasn't the first reply. I'm glad zoomers don't drink though it's degenerate.
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>>76965964

Well a couple things brother. If you dont have ADD then taking dextro amphetamines will make your more social and talkative. Though if youre anxious person high doses or repeat use can lead to increases anxiety, but essentially all it is, is dopamine. People who take a test on adderall didnt do better, but if you ask them after they think they did, it just gives you a more positive outlook, so say studying on adderall now you have a positive correlation and rememeber things better. It could work for social situations.

Another thing though I would not recommend it for the cost, physical toll and mental toll, but Trendalone. I had a friend who took it, he ended up inventing a second personality called Trent, cause he was suddenly so massive and confident. It made him super social, hyper sexual, and filled with rage, but he Def thought he was god.

Lastly though not sustainable for work, is alcohol. They have conducted studies to show baseline sociability, and how each shot of alcohol increases sociability 5% all the way to a 70 to 75% threshold before negative returns, though that would be a lot of alcohol over the night at 14 shots.

It depends on what youre trying to accomplish OP. But if youre just trying to get laid and meet people, house parties, bars, and festivals are great places to do that. I have fucked a lot of women in my day, and I couldnt have cold approached 90% of them or sealed the deal without liquor.
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>>76966733
Yes and alcohol
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>>76965964
Coke. It's a cheat code for social success.
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>>76965964
5-HTP
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>>76966666
>satan recommends benzos
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>>76965970
I can confirm this

I'm so socially recluse I once worked with this girl for more than a year and when I was about to walk out the door on my last day there she stopped me and said "I don't even know what your voice sounds like" but the handful of times I've done coke I've been told "you're actually charismatic when you want to be" or something similar
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>>76965964
Phenibut
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>>76966814
Nah everyone wants you to stfu
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>>76966666
You're right, Satan. Checked quints.
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>>76966334
Microdosing weiners.
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>>76966387
>>76966408
He probably meant that you can't easily die from it. Like, sure, you can have deadly doses of alcohol in your blood, but you will probably puke earlier than it happens. Most deaths from alcohol come from secondary causes or years of abuse
But you can surely die if you pour some wine into your ass
>>76966088
Alcohol also makes you smell, it fucks up all your emotions and feelings and it's really unreliable. But I can confirm, I'm the most confident when drunk. But I hate everything else about it. And I wouldn't choose it as a "social booster". No one likes drunkards. Plus you can't use it for some job related stuff or something like that, you know. Imagine coming to an interview while drunk. Yyyyeah
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Which answers are serious? I am interested in this.
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>>76965964
what peptide will make my wife love me again
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>>76965964
Climbing kites caffeine+THC seltzers
The green ones
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>>76966058
>Taking xan ever
That shit fucks your brain up so bad
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>>76966512
>Bupropion
my ex was on it. made her saliva taste like metal when we made out.. also she said she thought she was going crazy on it and hopped of. I did it for about a month when I was in college.. I feel like it made a difference. I felt more confident in approaching women.
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You have to force yourself to do it. There's no other way
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>>76965964
(former) longtime druggie here
>alcohol & benzos
i think enough has been said about these. one additional caveat i would make about benzos is that your body can become very dependent on them very quickly. i was taking the equivalent to ~1.5-3 mg alprazolam (xanax) for a couple of weeks, decided i should ease up so figured a 2 or 3 day taper would be fine given i hadn't taken it long, and had a seizure midway through. stay away from that shit
>ketamine
low dose ket made me sociable in a very 'natural' way, i.e., i was genuinely interested in what people were saying and actively enjoyed/sought out interactions
>adderall/vyvanse
these will make you a better talker and a better listener, for as long as they last. many people become extremely irritable and pissy when adderall wears off. vyvanse is subtler+smoother on the comedown but is an all-day thing.
>gabapentin
kind of shit, makes you feel stupid/spacey but does temper anxiety. never tried pregabalin
>coke
coke kind of seemed to affect me less than other people, for me it was really just a pick-me-up midway through a night of boozing. it has one tremendous advantage over pretty much every other stim in that it's short-acting
>lsd microdosing
meme, predominately placebo
>>76966512
atomoxetine > bupropion for sociability imo

p.s. if you sense that your anxiety has a major physical component, consider propranolol or clonidine. the former is a blood pressure medication prescribed off-label for anxiety, the latter is BP as well and is also used for ADHD
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>>76969520
pregabalin
phenibut (do not use more than once per week ideally)
amphetamine
cocaine (most dangerous even with single doses)
i've also had luck with piracetam making me quite talkative, though using it every day for too long (several weeks) makes me a bit irritable too
do not touch benzos
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>>76970177
>>76969520
>>76969812
OP said himself
its MAOIs drugs
any most imporantly
adderall
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MDMA will make you feel very social and friendly. It's number one for it with no competition. Go to a place where it's acceptable and you'll have a blast talking to anyone and everyone. It's easily the best drug for socializing, but you can't do it frequently without frying your serotonin system. Current harm reduction guidelines are to do it only once ever 2-3 months. Take magnesium glycinate and keep your dose reasonable when you do it, otherwise you'll be gurning like crazy and look tweaked out.

Cocaine is also great for socializing, but not nearly as good as MDMA, though you can use it more frequently without fucking yourself up. Just don't do it too frequently or you'll become dependent, and fuck up your heart. Also try to be cognizant of the other person's interest levels. Cocaine makes you want to talk talk talk and makes you feel more interesting than you are, but a boring person on cocaine is still a boring person.

>>76966034
It can. MDMA and coke got me to talk to a ton of people and that made me realize that in social settings, most people are excited when you talk to them. Internalizing that knowledge has gotten rid of all the nervousness I used to have approaching people and now I have no problems talking to people while sober.

The key is that you still absolutely have to go out to social events sober and talk to people with 0 drugs or alcohol in your system. If you drink or do drugs every time you socialize, you'll never learn that socialization is actually easy. Instead you'll learn that drugs making socializing easy and that will make you rely on them as a crutch.
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>>76970192
>MDMA
how did you get street drugs? whats the usual price for it
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>>76970192
That shit makes my anxiety way worse. 2cb is cool though.
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>>76970195
2c-b fucks

>>76970194
everything is cheap and high quality on the darknet
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>>76970233
totally scam they never send the package.
or will be checked at custom
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How are you all so fucking young? The answer is cocaine as FPBP said. Bit of coke and a few drinks and you will feel like there is no girl in the world you can't charm, and it will pay off I promise. Just don't go overboard with either and you'll be fine. You can also usually drink a whole bunch more on coke without getting blind but be careful as it will multiply the comedown.
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>>76970389
Coke is the most stepped on drug. A lot of people like to think they know what fresh come chipped off a block looks like but they just cut it and harden it back up


When it's good it's good.
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>>76965964
Adderall
>>76966088
Alcohol turns you into a fat pathetic idiot
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>>76970347
You’re an idiot. I’ve used the dark web for like 15 years and never been scammed never had a package intercepted.
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>>76970389
good luck finding shit that isn’t 75% vitamin b12 powder and fentanyl
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About 6th time I'm seeing this thread in the catalog, maybe moreth, and every single time I think at first that the pills are little sausages/wursts
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I was prescribed pregabalin for years before I knew it had any abuse potential. I got a little enjoyment out of it but it was very mild and it certainly didn't disinhibit me enough to make me talk to women, even at doses like 1000mg.
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>>76965964
I love feelings when taking 2-3g of mushrooms for social settings. Other people give positive feedback on interactions with me while I’m on it
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>>76966034
>Would using these substances to establish a baseline, to understand how socializing without stress works, help you overcoming social anxiety long-term without the use of drugs?
Your reasoning is correct, but the choice of methods not.
Psychotherapists prescribe a range of drugs, but all are sterile versions of real hard drugs.the point it that you want a controlled dose and actually retain clear head.
Hard drugs give you a high that removes your ability to really learn from that experience. And no you are not unique, it wont work differently for you.
Case 1: man uses cocaine, all friends comment that he does not act or look much different than normal, maybe more energetic. Man swears that cocaine makes him feel much different and confident.
Case 2: man uses alcohol to loosen up. Reliance on alcohol over time builds up and man still cannot be extroverted when sober.
>Like, you learn how you are supposed to act when calm and drugged, then you try to apply that sober?
Again - this is how antidepressant therapies work.
>It seems people keep abusing it so I guess not.
You are correct. Self medication usually lacks extreme discipline it actually requires.

The right method - stop trying to be extroverted in all fields. You should chose some aspect, e.g. smalltalk, and try it out on many subjects. Fail often if needed.
Then e.g. try showing off physique, then arranging a meeting etc. Building up smaller blocks that make up a whole, is how you genuinely can learn social skillls.
With drugs you likely will just act just as stupid as before, only lack the ability to comprehend that you are annoying. Fyi most people have very high tolerance to stupidity, so noone would comment and you'd not receive any feedback

My advice is to join improv or drama - lets you perform a range of emotions and situations on stage. 2 years doing improv imho saved me 10 years random socialisation. I bacame MUCH more confident talking to anyone, from women to influential people.
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>>76965964
Beta blockers. Easy to get.
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The answer is coke. Maybe adderall/meth if you keep amounts low or else you'll be too obviously stimed. I genuinely think doing coke and mdma once or twice is constructive for most young insecure/anxious guys. You realize how much is just in your own head and life can be so much easier.

>>76970398
I've had plenty custom seized and even had police involvement. Bongland though and they love to go hard on crimes like internet drugs and soft on raping children.
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>>76970398
be realistic lmao
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uppers like amph to be extroverted and downers like clonazepam to calm down. Doing both at the same time would accomplish your goal.
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>>76965964
200mg modafinil and low dose edible
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time and practice
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>>76965964
Phenibut

Works amazing.
Just don't take it daily and dont drink with it.

Basically all the drunk social confidence without being drunk. Like cocaine light.
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>>76970889
ah i dont know how it is over there, im american and ive never had an issue ever. the rule here is you order domestic, never international and you're good.
>>76972041
do not take phenibut. crazy addictive and it's a trash drug with horrible horrible withdrawals.
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>>76970392
>>76970410
Just wash your coke, use a testing kit, and buy from a good source. I've sent coke off for lab analysis several times and never gotten anything less than 80% pure. Once got some that was 96% pure. I've never gotten any that tested positive for fent, either. Have narcan on hand just in case but in my experience the risk is overblown.

I believe that the statistics on how impure coke is are skewed negatively due to selection bias.
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>>76972063
>>76972063
>statistics
Done coke many years in different states. Rich whites had good coke in boulder, mexican gangbangers had good coke. All the rest was shit. Blacks will lose half their profit if they dont cut or cook. Chollos slowly cut it each time u get back but so will any many dealers and anyone who is getting addicted.

Never had fent in coke, myself. Seems like the opposite of what a customer who likes come would want. But i hate fent. Poison getting people life sentences.


Anothrr thing. Everyone in the south said black tar in the mid west was so much better. Not the case i think. Any experience here?



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