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Thoughts on weight loss medication craze?
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>>76980460
i need to smell the ass of a huge woman like this
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>>76980460
>Anonymous 01/05/26(Mon)13:15:19 No.76980460▶
>Thoughts on weight loss medication craze?
whole shtick hinges on one fucking lie:
>walking is not exercise
if all u had to do is walk daily and eat in moderation there would be little sheckels in ozempic scheme, but no, people are told to zone heart, roon, go to gym - all of which will make losing weight harded via stressors and seemingly insurmountable for lardass hoops and not enough duration of sustained effort

>>76980470
>walking, with good posture - the absolute king of cardiovascular health oriented efforts
>>>76980433
>>>>76980414
>>>try walking mindfully, without slouching forward, without neck craning :D

>h-how can u utter such heresy ?
simple bot, walked yesterday and i am leaner today, it happens every fucking time i take a walk :D
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>>76980460
It's a good thing. Losing weight is being normalized and being fat is being de-normalized
Expect far fewer fat people in the 2030s
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Just like every other drug it treats the symptoms, not the cause. The fat fuck losers that cheat with drugs will always be mentally fat fuck losers that will lose all progress without their meds.
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If it can help the obese reach a relatively normal weight, that's good. Many feel so far gone that they have no reference for what it feels like to walk around as a person sub 200lbs.
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>>76980653
Beat me to it. We truly are we fucked if as a society we decided that injecting drugs is a favorable alternative to eating well and moving more.
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A population of fatties will not lose weight by their own accord. Although there are plenty of resources available for them to learn how to do it themselves (eating healthy and exercising).
I see the merit in increasing accessibility to these medications but I think it's a little weird how you can order this shit to your door step.
Also, a large portion of fatties will lose the weight with medication alone, they will not learn how to sustain their weight without the medication.
Over time, their bodies will deteriorate from the constant drug use. There will be consequences to this. They will see the deleterious effects and hop off the medications, but will gain back the weight because they never learned healthy habits.
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Leftists are in favor of
>Removing personal accountability for actions, see: abortion, soft on crime, softer on criminals mentality, debt forgiveness at the expense of taxpayers, etc, million examples
To make healthy those that would otherwise die early from sloth and gluttony is the ultimate leftist ideal, those of us on the right would prefer their hearts implode quickly and fatly.
If you support this you're a Democrat loser.
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It's not ideal. It's just about the laziest way to handle the fact that someone overeats and underachieves. But, fatties gon' fat, and if this is the way to make there be less fatties in the world, I guess it's okay.
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Big pharma doesn't want you eating less shit, it's obvious they have been trying to find the "fit pill" for a while now. Same deal with anti-depressants
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Losing weight is near impossible once you have been fat for years. I’m down to a normal bmi from years of unhealthy eating, and food still dominates most of thoughts, most of the time, every single day. 3 years into dieting, and I’m finally starting to see actual changes in my thoughts.
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>>76980716
It's not easy, but it's also not "impossible" or even "near impossible."
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>>76980716
>Losing weight is near impossible once you have been fat for years.
Eating less isn't impossible you genetic dead end, it's moderately difficult, and since you can't handle something moderately difficult I believe you should be forced to remain fat as a mentally, physically and spiritually weak individual
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>>76980527
meds.
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>>76980460
GLP1 work extremely well, are healthy af and been on the market since liraglutide was released in 2006.
If you‘re a fatty, take it. If you‘re a skelly, search for other groups to put down to feel better about yourself. I‘d recommend manlets because there are no pills to grow taller after puberty.
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>>76980653
>>76980686
The cause is a hyperactive appetite. GLP1 safely and effectively treats obesity and makes everyone on them turn slim. You don’t like it because it increases competition, simple as.
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>>76980460
how the fuck is weight loss medication real haha nigga just dont eat haha nigga dont touch the fork
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>>76980791
Nah, I'd rather put down a group that is of that group because of their own bad decisions. Manlets didn't make themselves short, but every single fatty out there made themselves a fatty.
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>>76980800
People are fat because they biologically have a high appetite. You don‘t and you muster up exactly zero willpower to stay slim but then go on to put down fat people because that way you can feel better about yourself. GLP1 are taking that away from you. Cope all you want about lifestyle, habits, inner fatness etc. but the end result will be that people on GLP1 will be indistinguishable from naturally thin people and enjoy every benefit.
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>>76980808
>they biologically have a high appetite
Ah, the old "genetics" bullshit. Tell me, where were all these fat ancestors? They also biologically had the same high appetites, didn't they? Gosh, it's a mystery where the fatties of old were. Any help identifying them?
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>>76980460
I'm still trying to succeed without it, but I think if I'm still as big around as I am now come next fall when my annual checkup hits, I'm asking my GP for the help. I'm not even that overweight, maybe just 25lbs away from a good dadbod. I've been stuck here for years and years, though. I'd always lose 20lbs with strict lifestyle and diet changes, good for about 6 months, then stall out when holidays or family vacation hits, and then 6 months later I'm right back where I started. Currently trying to recomp - hopefully gaining some beef helps me lose the pork, and I'm WFH with an easy job that lets me treadmill-vidya for hours a day. So we'll see.

I look forward to my wife getting on it, though. She's never going to be able to diet off the maybe 15, 20 extra lbs that separate her from looking pretty alright to being absolutely fucking gorgeous. She lacks the discipline, motivation, time, energy, know-how, etc to overcome, and she's got woman-brain so it's kind of a lost cause. But some of her friends have had amazing results with it, and I feel like if I can lose my own weight she'll get motivated to make a change. So long as it's safe (and it seems like it is) I don't really care how she loses the weight, so yeah, bring it on as far as I'm concerned.

Full disclosure, I'm full natty, but not for any moral reasons. Looked at supplementing T a few years ago, wasn't low enough for insurance to cover it so I figured that it wasn't time yet. I won't do anything harder than that because of the health risks. I don't give 2 shits about "cheating" with hormones or peptides or whatever - you only go around once, right? But I do have a wife and kids to grow old with and for, so whatever I do has to be demonstrated safe. I think GLP is fine with that in mind - better than fine if it makes me lose the gut and take the strain off my heart.
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>>76980525
it is pretty nice got an earthy funk to it that makes you feel alive highly recommend
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>>76980793
Do you think fatties are the only people who get hungry? The difference between a fatty and a normal person is that the latter doesn't gorge themselves at the first sign of hunger.
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>>76980460
My thoughts are:
1. It inherently ends people from over-purchasing and over-eating. Plus!
2. It's expensive. So this is easily SEGREGATING COMMUNITIES for their incomes and values. I LIKE defined, refined communities! It helps me find friends and avoid criminals!!
3. It's potentially lethal with side-effects. Might take a while, but hey, still worse than "just stop eating, bro?" I don't feel jealousy for that; I have self-control.
4. It brings back thin (see: attractive) women and lets them preach/attention-seek being beautiful, again! Nice!
5. It's making female-hatred for being fat OBVIOUS again! Turns out, "fat-acceptence" is COPING and when women are given the chance to not be fat, they'll TAKE IT!!

Stop giving Coca-Cola and Nestle all your money, fatsos!!
Stop being fat, fatsos!!
There are better ways to get thin and be healthy, but this, at least, makes obesity more obviously a negative on society, so I approve.
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>>76980460
Can't overstate the joy the end of fat acceptance brings me.
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>>76980811
Genetics are the cause, yes.
We didn‘t have fat ancestors because there was literally not enough food to satisfy their constant cravings but now we do. Or do you think people in ancient times had Walmarts?
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>>76980828
I know for a fact that people who were thin their entire lives have the appetite of a chihuahua. They do OMAD naturally and then eat a small meal.
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People who were fat for a period and got skinny through hard work are lesser humans for allowing themselves to even get fat in the first place

"People" who use medication to reverse their fatness are not human at all
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>>76980873
Doesn‘t really matter what you believe because at the end of the day all former fatties are now thin and enjoying all the benefits naturally thin people got to enjoy.
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>>76980876
>thin now erases all negative effects from before
>"if you were obese for 30 years, but you're thin today, then you're 100% fixed!!!"
>all the benefits
Their heart, muscles, intestines, liver, pancreas, brain and basically every organ disagrees with you.
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>>76980876
Fat people are animals. If you fuckers maintained better hygiene then I'd advocate the skinny people eat YOU, it would solve world hunger, give you to the niggers in Africa and they can use all the seasonings blacks love, you'd feed 50 negroid mouths for a month, if they catch disease from your bloated corpse that's a risk I'm willing to take
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>>76980972
GLP1 are so insanely healthy that they can even reverse liver damage that not even lifestyle changes can reverse.
>>76980994
All humans are animals.
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>>76980696
>Rightoid policy creates hordes of amerifatties through deregulation in our food and restrictions to healthcare access
>Rightoids blame "leftists"
Lol. Mind you, you'll find the most fatties in rural, republican voting towns
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>>76980460
People want the easy way out.
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>>76981034
Lifestyle changes are a meme and appetite signals always win. For skellies the easy way out is doing nothing because they don’t experience hunger in the first place.
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>>76981049
It's the only sustainable way to keep fat off and to be healthy.
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>>76981049
>appetite signals always win.
You're literally cattle
>Brain and body say hungry so must eat
What a disgusting person you are, a human with no agency
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>>76980696
Abortion is a Property Rights issue. If it's not your uterus, you don't get to squat in it.
No Trespassing means No Trespassing, you fucking communist.
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>>76981099
>I HAD to have unprotected sex with those men
>That doesn't mean I want the responsibility of a baby!
>Oh thank God, Democrats said I can just kill the baby, I'm gonna vote for them hard af
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>>76981056
GLP1 is sustainable for life. Lifestyle changes verifiably only last until the next stressful life event.
>>76981058
All humans are animals. If you weren‘t, you wouldn‘t be here in the first place.
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>>76981099
Ok but the woman willingly put that squatter in the uterus…
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>>76981114
Castle Doctrine. Don't set foot on my land if you don't want to accept the risk.
>>76981170
>OK but you willingly let that man into your home before he threatened your life
Property owner reserves the right to ask you to leave at any time, for any reason. If you are no longer welcome in my house, that's that.
No Trespassing means NO Trespassing.
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>>76980460
Pic related
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>>76981240
But /fit/izens were the first ones to use it back when it was still a research substance.
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people hate it when you take shortcuts but for me being on glp-1 was much better than diabetes. the only people that are salty are still-fats and people on /fit/.
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>>76980696
go back to pol faggot
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>>76980763
for what bot?
try to formulate argument
>>76980527
>>76980582
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>>76981263
There are three categories of people who hate on GLP1:
-skellies who hate the fact that they can't make fun of and feel superior to fat people anymore
-former fatties who lost weight the hard way and now have to suffer from constant hunger pangs
-fatties who fell for concern trolling from skellies
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>>76981269
bladibla
walk daily with caloric deficit = weight loss
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>>76981279
Then your appetite levels rise again and stress+lack of sleep will make you overeat again.
Your suggestion makes as much sense as me telling you to get off 4chan and work 16 hours a day to quickly become a millionaire. Technically achievable but we both know it's really not.
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>>76980460
It doesn't cure the culture of obesity that causes people to get so disgustingly fat. It's also wasting away everyone's muscle, so when these fatties stop taking the drug and go back to eating 500g of carbs per day they'll inadvertently put themselves in a diabetic coma.

>>76980525
>a huge woman like this
kek that's just the average American woman now
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>>76981293
>It doesn't cure the culture of obesity that causes people to get so disgustingly fat.
It doesn't need to because it cures being fat.
>It's also wasting away everyone's muscle
Not anymore than any other weightloss method.
>so when these fatties stop taking the drug
I've asked you npc this question countless times and you could never come up with an answer. WHY STOP?
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>>76981287
It's almost like your actions result in positive or negative outcomes!
It depends on your actions!
Sometimes, you get lucky! Or unlucky! You don't have much control over those rare events, though!!
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>>76981313
>It's almost like your actions result in positive or negative outcomes!
Humans are not perfect creatures, we are animals. If something doesn't work, repeating it over and over is insanity.
>It depends on your actions!
And fat people have collectively decided that the best course of action that produces results is getting on GLP1.
>Sometimes, you get lucky!
I think we are lucky to live in a time were both obesity and hairloss have effective treatments.
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>>76981297
>WHY STOP?
They can't afford it?
They reach their target goal?
Are you telling me children from Zimbabwe have as much right to this medicine as elderly in Tibet? If a 34-year-old in Hokkaido doesn't have access to "the drug" every single day for the next 50 years, it must be someone else's fault?
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>>76981329
>They can't afford it?
Cheap Chinese peptides exist. The highest dose of tirzepatide is like $50 a month now.
>They reach their target goal?
Use a lower dose to maintain that weight indefinitely.
>Are you telling me children from Zimbabwe have as much right to this medicine as elderly in Tibet?
Sure.
>If a 34-year-old in Hokkaido doesn't have access to "the drug" every single day for the next 50 years, it must be someone else's fault?
The drug will only become more accessible over time.
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>>76981297
>WHY STOP?
Money isn't infinite for the average person, and the average person is only becoming poorer and poorer as the years drag on. All it takes is one genuine recession and then people start neglecting what they think of now as routine maintenance.
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>>76981336
>Money isn't infinite for the average person
GLP1 is only becoming cheaper over time. Chinese peptides basically made it affordable to anyone but people on food stamps.
>and the average person is only becoming poorer and poorer as the years drag on.
Cost of GLP1 < cost of excess food.
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>>76981327
Sooooooo, your comparison of
>calorie deficit = weight loss (self control)
to
>working 16 hours every day will result in you being a millionaire
is totally equivalent?
Because, as you say, both are "technically achievable" but it's "insanity" since it doesn't work............ which "doesn't work" you dismiss as "I don't want to."

You are naive.
I'll end my conversation with you with this closing remark; I approve of Ozempic/GLP1/drug If others can afford it, take it, and stop purchasing tons of food while becoming more physically attractive, then congratulations. But, be careful; the idea it's a cure-all with zero repurcussions is childish. Make sure you define your standards of personal value and self-worth.
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>>76981349
>calorie deficit = weight loss (self control)
>working 16 hours every day will result in you being a millionaire
Both require self control. Both have successful examples in the real world.
>You are naive.
Or I acknowledge the fact that appetite levels can be so high in the majority of the population that they can't be controlled by a limited amount of willpower that is constantly mustered up for other things like work etc.
>But, be careful; the idea it's a cure-all with zero repurcussions is childish.
20 years of clinical use in diabetics who are a high risk population for anything. 40 years of research. All that came out of it was that GLP1 is very, very safe and extremely beneficial to overall health. Whenever you guys can't come up with anything else, you'll refer to alleged "long-term side effects" that will definitely occur in "current date + five more years bro". Just like the Great Reset from the mRNA covid vaccine was supposed to wipe out all the goy in 2021/2022/2023/2024/2025.
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>>76981340
>Guys, my argument hinges on infinite resources
>Guys, my argument states humans will make the best choices because everyone is created equal -- history proves me correct
>You, disagreeing with me, isn't possible
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>>76981360
>Guys, my argument hinges on infinite resources
Literally what are you even talking about?
>Guys, my argument states humans will make the best choices because everyone is created equal -- history proves me correct
Not everyone has to make perfect choices. But most former fat people will choose to stay on affordable GLP1 for life because that drug fucking works.
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>>76981340
You have never lived through an actual recession and it shows. People don't neglect routine maintenance because they've done some kind of flawed cost benefit analysis. They do it because they're irrational and have gotten lost in their own feelings in a time of high stress. You cannot projecting your rational behavior onto the depressed 93 iq fat women.
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>>76981369
>People don't neglect routine maintenance because they've done some kind of flawed cost benefit analysis.
Even completely disregarding cost-benefit analysis, people fucking hate being fat so they'll keep taking GLP1 one way or another.
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>>76980460
It will ultimately be a net good for the world. Sure, there are probably long term side effects we don’t know about yet, but they can’t possibly be worse than the long term side effects of morbid obesity.

Yeah it’s “cheating” but who cares. There will be more attractive women in the world.
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>>76981297
50-75% of people on weight loss drugs quit
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>>76981385
Those statistics are kinda screwed because a huge portion of GLP1 users are using Chinese peptides now which are vastly more affordable than Zepbound and WeGovy.
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>>76981382
Attractive women that will only want chad not you. Weight loss drugs will only raise the standards of women. Being in shape will become an even stricter requirement for them
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>>76981382
>Sure, there are probably long term side effects we don’t know about yet
20 years of clinical use in diabetics. How many more decades do you want to wait before we can claim something as safe? Is 2000 years enough?
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Once fat always fat we can smell the weakness on you, slaves to your base impulses, where's your soul, I can't find it fatty
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>>76981390
Source? From what ive seen the only people taking Chinese peptides like retatrutide are bodybuilders and looksmaxxers.
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>>76981378
>people fucking hate being fat so they'll keep taking GLP1 one way or another.
and people hate having cavities so they'll all have great dental health, right? all they have to do is brush their teeth and floss, right? You give these dumbasses far too much credit. Stop projecting your autism onto them.
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>>76981395
>Once fat always fat we can smell the weakness on you
It's way more likely that you'll target the retard whom you've successfully gaslighted into doing it "the natural way".
>>76981399
It's been shilled so much on tiktok and reddit that both sites had to make rules against promoting it.
>>76981401
Teeth can be replaced although it is expensive without insurance.
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>>76981405
If you look at the r/retatrutide subreddit 90% of the threads are from bodybuilders. Most people are too scared to inject themselves with chemicals from overseas. Bodybuilders already do it, so they dont mind.
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>>76981421
Shillers were on every GLP1 sub like r/mounjaro, r/zepbound etc.
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>>76980460
I've noticed it makes women's boobs disapear. All women with large breasts should be banned from taking ozempic. This old lady at work had the biggest boobs I've ever seen. At least 3x bigger than OP's pic and now theyre gone and ill never forgive the drug companies for what they've done
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>>76980460
Will undoubtedly have severe side effects far down the line, and everyone who abused these injections will claim to be victims.
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>>76981464
>Will undoubtedly have severe side effects far down the line
20 years of clinical use in diabetics. How far are we talking here? Another 20 years? 40? 160?
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>>76980808
The information is out there on how to diet properly to lose weight. Most fatties live in a 1st world country and have easy access to nutritious food. If they wanted to lose weight badly enough they would do it. It will be harder for some than others, but it's possible if they want it badly enough. They don't.

Most people love comfort and are afraid of change. I do not feel bad shaming those people. No matter how much they weigh.
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>>76981481
>If they wanted to lose weight badly enough they would do it.
They are doing it now with the help of GLP1.
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>>76981474
Tobacco has decades of science proving it's good for you. Just look at 1960!
How many years will it take to prove them wrong? 160 years???
Smoking tobacco is the obvious correct choice. Has been for, like, 2000 years.
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>>76981481
One thing ive observed with weight loss drug users is most never actually start eating healthy and exercising. They keep eating the foods they usually eat, just a lot less of it.

Some weight loss drug users will also take steroids to gain muscle while losing weight instead of exercising consistently
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>>76981564
>Tobacco has decades of science proving it's good for you. Just look at 1960!
We've known about tobacco being bad for you for over 50 years now and safety standards have only increased since then. Post-market monitoring systems have been in place for quite some decades now and they detect any safety signal.
>How many years will it take to prove them wrong? 160 years???
It could be 160 years and you still wouldn't be satisfied because you're a fucking faggot who can't accept that meds that help fat people lose weight are actually a good thing. Just World Hypothesis isn't real, obesity is not a moral failing and Jesus won't punish the obese in hell.
>Smoking tobacco is the obvious correct choice. Has been for, like, 2000 years.
And we've since then banned so much stuff due to stringent regulation. Or do you think nothing has changed?
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>>76981581
>One thing ive observed with weight loss drug users is most never actually start eating healthy and exercising.
Eating healthy = eating in a deficit which most GLP1 users do. The twinkie study is a good indicator that even on the worst possible diet your medical values still improve.
>and exercising
Most people don't do that, fat or not.
>They keep eating the foods they usually eat, just a lot less of it.
And that's bad because?
>I-It just is, okay!
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>What person has the healthiest, best body that I could ever want?
>I'll copy their lifestyle!

>Ok! Found 'em!
>...
>... holy shit.
>That's a lot of work.
>And I can't afford that!
>Wait... they already have a salary?
>They only buy $70 cuts of AAA beef from Roppongi? I mean, I understand that's the best cut of beef, so making that choice is obvious, but...
>...SEVENTEEN YEARS!?
>...
>.....

>You know what?
>Eating this granola bar I already bought is easier.
>I'll just do that.
Everyone buys GLP1.
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>>76981582
>Or do you think nothing has changed?
Just like GLP1, right?
We've done the research. It currently says "best choice for fatties."
NOTHING will change. I promise!
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>>76981254
>bu-bu-buh
You use excuses. I put down the fork. We are not the same
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>>76981591
>Just like GLP1, right?
GLP1 have been used in diabetics for 20 years now. Diabetics are a high risk group where side effects can most often be discovered yet GLP1 proved not only effective but also very safe in them.
>We've done the research. It currently says "best choice for fatties."
And safest. And most tolerable. And most effective.
>NOTHING will change. I promise!
According to you everyone was supposed to die from the covid vaccine years ago so that Bill Gates and George Soros could finally realize their dream of sharing the planet with right wing schizos who hate them.
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>>76981587
Holy shit you're retarded.

Healthy =\= deficit. Healthy means eating nutrient dense foods with an appropriate amount of calories for your body/activity levels. Sustained deficits are often only the difference of a few hundred calories. The main point is to give your body nutrients. That is going to help you be healthy in the long run in addition to losing weight.

Eating nothing but Twinkies will cause you to lose weight, but you're going to feel like shit because your body isn't getting anything to repair itself.

People still eating like shit on GL-1's is likely the reason they quit. They don't alter their diets, end up eating a little slop, feel like shit because they're only eating slop. Lose weight. Quit the drug, go back to eating a ton of slop, then regain the weight.
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>>76981602
You don't put down the fork, you don't use it in the first place. You skellies don't experience hunger so you don't have to muster up any willpower whatsoever to stay slim. Yet somehow when fat people have issues staying in a deficit, you claim it is a personal failure.
You guys had your fun of bullying and exploiting fatties for the past 50 years but now GLP1 are here to stay.
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>>76981613
>you don't have to muster up any willpower
You have no clue how foolish you sound you mentally and spiritually fat pig
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>>76981587
I said eating healthier foods such as grilled chicken breast. Simply eating in a deficit isn’t necessarily healthy. It’s only healthy if you are overweight.

Eating junk food is still unhealthy for skinny people.

In my opinion, this kind of shows how much of their health is because of genetics and how much is just laziness.

Fat people genetically have higher appetites and are more likely to become addicted to junk food.

So if weight loss drugs reduced your appetite and cravings for junk food then now what is your excuse for not eating healthy?
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>>76981612
>Healthy =\= deficit.
A calorie deficit induces beneficial biological changes regardless of how "bad" the diet is.
>Healthy means eating nutrient dense foods with an appropriate amount of calories for your body/activity levels.
The most healthy diet, according to science, is the Mediterranian one. And you need to be in a calorie deficit to lose weight.
>Sustained deficits are often only the difference of a few hundred calories.
Sustaining that over years is seemingly impossible though as decades of failed diets indicate.
>The main point is to give your body nutrients.
Supplements exist, you know.
>Lose weight. Quit the drug, go back to eating a ton of slop, then regain the weight.
Or stay on the drug forever and maybe eat some more protein and fiber alongside a multivitamin.
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>>76981613
You mad breh?
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>>76981619
I don't care, I enjoy the sheer seething skellies have because GLP1 exists and formerly fat people are ignoring your desperate pleas. It's like when the school bully loses his victim because the latter won the lottery.
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>>76981621
>Eating junk food is still unhealthy for skinny people.
Skinny people still eat junk food, just less of it. Just like people on GLP1.
>then now what is your excuse for not eating healthy?
You can eat healthy if you want to but it shouldn't be a requirement for people on GLP1 or anyone else for that matter.
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>>76981633
I am really enjoying this, actually.
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>>76981628
>stay on the drug forever
You joke, but people genuinely think like this.
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>>76981639
Yes, those skinny people are still unhealthy if they are eating mostly junk food.

Im not saying exercise is a requirement. This is just something I’ve observed.

A lot of fat people say they cant eat healthy because of excessive cravings and large appetites due to genetics. But when these things are reduced they continue to do so.
So, maybe it was never ‘genetics’ and it was actually just an unwillingness to change
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>>76981646
I don't joke. It's a maintenance drug just like statins, 5ar inhibitors and blood pressure meds.
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>>76981653
>So, maybe it was never ‘genetics’ and it was actually just an unwillingness to change
If it was an unwillingness to change there wouldn't be any demand for GLP1 at all. No one likes being fat.
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>>76981641
That's actually even sadder. Hope you get better
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>>76981670
I am, thanks to GLP1.
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>>76981683
Breh... you shouldn't joke about your mental illness like that
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>>76981660
I mean an unwillingness to do it without drugs. (Eat healthy and exercise)
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>>76981049
>Lifestyle changes are a meme and appetite signals always win.
Appetite signals are themselves affected by your lifestyle. Namely, your diet. 1000 calories of biltong is far more satiating than 1000 calories of potato chips.
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>>76981726
I can still do both while on drugs without experiencing extreme hunger anymore.
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>>76980729
NTA, but I'm tired of listening to people repeat exactly what you just said about food and eating, and then watch those exact individuals struggle in other parts of life that could be blamed on lack of discipline as well, like gambling, alcohol abuse, antisocial behaviours, etc. Through experience one comes to realize that temptations look very different for different people, and every time I see someone respond like you just did it just feels fake and like an emotional backlash against the wokey "it's ok to be weak" mentality.
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>>76981786
You imagine I struggle with things because you do, how embarrassing to publicly admit something so ugly. I don't struggle anon, I excel, in all things, life is easy it you have willpower, and it's hard if you don't, enjoy the hard path while feeling haughty and uppity about it kid
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>>76981806
Well, anon, you clearly struggle with reading comprehension because I've never said you were struggling from any of those things. I was talking about people I've met through my life. About you, I just said your attitude on the topic felt like fake posturing, which your RP response pretty much confirmed.
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>>76981814
>Well, anon, you clearly struggle with reading comprehension because
Lmao you talk like a feminist bro, hope you enjoy cheating the fat off and that chip on your shoulder
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>>76981830
>hope you enjoy cheating the fat off and that chip on your shoulder
Since you're unable to read I think you're confusing me with the other anon, but you can imagine me however wou want if that makes you feel better sweetie
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>>76981779
If you’re eating healthy and exercising and the drugs help you do it then great. Most people dont do either while on weight loss drugs.
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>>76981860
And they don't have to, they still end up losing weight and become much healthier than if they don't take the drug.
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>>76980460
It's a drug that forces a lifestyle change. What's the point? Making the same lifestyle change by choice is free.
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>>76982248
>What's the point? Making the same lifestyle change by choice is free.
The point is that 80% of the population can't do it due to naturally high appetite levels so medication is needed.
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>>76980460
replace the v with g
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>>76982260
>can't
You don't know what that word means you gay loser
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>>76980653
Not really. If you make the initial 100lb's easy to lose with drugs, they will be more likely to implement healthy eating habits and start exercising.
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>>76981806
Lmao. You defiantly struggle with not getting baited on the internet.

You're on 4chan, definitely far from the creme of the crop.
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>Leanne Crow hopped on the ozempic

Don't look up what she looks like now bros, it will make your dick sad.
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>>76980460
Steroids for fat people. We will see the damage done to their organs in the coming years. Some already look withered and show a distinct change in voice.
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>>76980811
Based, quickscoped that faggot
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>>76980460
I look down on them and think they're weak.
I think it should only be used by morbidly obese people and for a finite amount of time.
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This thread was an amazing read. Both to see there are genuinely relateable Anons that have experience and that there really are very shallow Anons who truly believe, not even jokingly, that humans have created a flawless MacGuffin unlike any in history which solves hunger.
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>>76983114
Stop being gay
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>>76982260
>naturally high appetite levels
There is no such thing. I think what's more likely is that they're eating high calorie, low micronutrient dense foods. Potato chips, donuts, bread, candy, etc. Have some steak and eggs and you'll feel full with very little actual food.
>medication is needed
It isn't. The human body does not have such a thing as an "ozempic deficiency". Therefore, ozempic cannot possibly solve the root cause of fatties' problems.
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>>76982324
>they will be more likely to implement healthy eating habits and start exercising
LMAO no they won't.
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>>76980525
Imagine being a lower creature than a slovenly, fat and lazy woman. Pathetic anon.
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>>76982324
It depends on the personality. People prone to learned helplessness will do as you say. Most people aren't as prone to that, so they'll just think "hey I lost 100lbs I'm healthy now" and stop there.
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>>76981655
Except your body adapts to GLP-1s and they stop working inevitably (you can find countless anecdotes describing this). 5ar inhibitors and cialis are examples of actual maintenance drugs in that you can take them forever with the same or improved effect over time
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>>76987716
It doesnt stop working. Who told you that? Lmao
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>>76980831
Claymore was so fucking good
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For me it isn't any different than roiding, in fact if it proves to have fewer side-effects; then it's better than roiding.
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>>76981049
As a lifelong skeltal, I'm starting to agree with this. I eat like crap and I've never been above a BMI of 23 and that's really rare for me to get that fat. I used to think it was a metabolism thing, but I realized I'm just not that hungry. I worked with a tremendous woman for a while and we would all go to lunch and she would just eat like crazy. Appetizers, two meals, dessert. Insane appetite.



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