>miracle drug pretty much solved obesity>/fit/ is yet to talk about itWhat are your thoughts and experiences with these drugs?
>>76990706My girlfriend wanted to lose about 10lbs so she got these injections.Lost all her muscleAss looked like an 80 year old's assFace aged like 10 years. Never fully recovered. She looks old nowZero energy Zero sexHad all 8 symptoms of dying. Which makes sense since you are lowering your metabolism Wished he luck and told her I was moving on. I wasn't turned on by her body or her old face and I didn't like being with a zombie. She stopped immediately and tried to get back to normal, but her face never fully looked young again
>>76990706I have a family member who has been on it for over 5 years.Fat as a beachball, T2D, and was a Registered Dietician before she retired.I think it's a scam that merely promotes dependence on another overpriced pharma drug in today's subscription based system.Secondary effects are pretty nasty too in some "patients">Gut motility death>Gut flora death>losses are gained back extremely fast when drug is discontinued, and it does nothing for the ROOT of the causeThis Bint bought all the junk science that was pushed out by the food lobbyists especially the Artificial sweetener shills. I've watched her get fatter and fatter over the last 30 years, even with having "A Master's degree in food science"Tell me, what fucking good is that if your info is corrupted from the source, and even with following RDGs you still are fat as a beachball, and clearly metabolically dysfunctional?When the Covid-SARS supply chain issues really took root in 2021-2022, she couldn't get it anywhere for months, and during that time, she not only gained ~20 pounds, but was constantly afraid that she was going to die because her A1Cs were absurdly out of whack.All this could have been easily avoided by Diet changes, exercise and lifestyle changes.Fucking dumb bitch would become infuriated at me when I'd suggest she just get rid of all the bullshit "DIET" foods, eat real whole foods with no more than a few ingredients, and cut out ALL sugar and high carb foods for a couple months until she fixed her fatty liver and insulin resistance.You'd have thought I'd spat on her, and she immediately went off about "Muh MASTERS in DS" and BLAHBLAHBLAH...IDGAF, she also pushed for my family to exclude me from holidays since 2021,(they did,) since I refused to VA XX.Fuck you Auntie, I hope you ROT from the inside out!(She is.)
>>76990765you are completely lying
>>76990777I wish I was. Oh and she got fatter once she started eating. She got 20lbs overweight instead of ten. Never gained her muscles fully either, she used to have a lot of muscle especially the ass. You could see her ass muscles from the front sticking out sideways. Never got any of it back. But you go ahead and try it. It think it's good for the obese or for someone taking anavar or other steroids that will spare the muscle. But try it bro
>>76990706My fat brother got on zepbound (tirzepatide) and has gone from over 300 lbs to currently ~185 and he’s still losing weight every week
>>76990776that's a very nice schizo diatribe but i'm still taking the miracle life extension drug, no amount of fud will be able to change that
>>76990706>>miracle drug pretty much solved obesityReta is better
>>76990796See? I think land whales like his brother can benefit from this. Big boy weighing 3 bills. Man I would love to be 300lbs with 15% body fat
>>76990801Reta is dogshit compared to tirz in my experience. Overrated trash that makes you crave sweets and increases your heart rate, not much else. Maybe it's better at liver fat reduction, idc about that though.Tirz annihilates hunger, it is king.
>>76990777>WASTEDJust like his pic, [X]There are TONS of people having similar experiences with this "Quick fix" garbage.Like MOST Pharma drugs, they don't even really know HOW these things work, just that they can get a clinical result, but usually the WHY is not fully understood.Don't believe me?Go on Drugs.com or Wikipedo, and pick ANY drug at random that you can think of.95% of the time you will run into the phrases:>While it's not fully understoodor>It is surmised/believed that...or>some obfuscative bullshit couched in terminology that says we don't know why, but it seems to work on most people...When you have hormonal dysregulation, fatty liver, insulin resistance or T2D, you are fighting against a system already flooded with sugar, and insulin which prohibits hormones from functioning,If you are FAT enough to consider shooting yourself up with this shit, you have one or more of the above problems.No way out without fasting, NO Carb/Ketogenic diet and exercise.Sorry, you ate yourself into this, you'll have to eat your way out.The good news is that as soon as you fix the issue and are at a healthy weight, you can go back to a healthy diet that includes everything including bread, starches, even desserts and real sugar in your coffee/teahttps://youtu.be/ZxkNukeCMkYhttps://youtu.be/GpdwtHhqtxshttps://youtu.be/lQDJveuVHMg
>>76990817>he got dogshit fake reta and blames it on the reta not the gook sellerDo you see how it says GLP-1 agonist in both on the picture?Do you know what GLP-1 is?
>>76990823I was in an Eli Lilly retatrutide trial you presumptive faggot.
>>76990799>MOAR Wasted digits>Schizo...the weak refutation when you're a midwit or a shillCool story bro. I hope you enjoy your Gut death, and turbo cancer--Probably oughtta boost up on those Flu shots too.There ain't no such things a "Miracle drugs"You believe in Hanukah Harry too?Fucking Faggot.https://youtu.be/MXtGYwY_D7o
>>76990828>he doesn't know what placebo isboi, thanks for the laugh
>>76990829two more weeks until users the most studied drug class of the past 20 years all start developing catastrophic side effectssure thing schizo
>>76990837>he doesn't know what a head to head trial isuniversal literacy was a mistake. You're supposed to be some peasant tilling a field somewhere. Stfu dumb double digit iq cunt.
>>76990817Yet somehow reta has demonstrably better results, strangeIt's almost like you're talking out of your ass
>>76990842>he trusts when "muh experts" lie to him directly in the face"b-b-but they told me it it was head to head, why would they lie?"Jesus fucking christ dude, just stop
>>76990845Didn't remember asking your cocksucking opinion, retard.
>>76990842also subtheraupetic dosing in head to head trials do exist you know? but why the fuck would I trust a scientist about what kind of experiment he was conducting on me, the fuck
>>76990846>hurrr i got intellectually raped so hard im just gonna pretend i was le trolling the whole time xDD
>>76990847Delicious cope and seethe
>>76990847Big baby got his fee fees hurt, and all that because he realized he was lied to about reta, lmaoI bet you're still a lardass
>>76990706>Miracle drug that solved obesity>Picrel
>>76990851you really aren't mentally equipped to have this discussion. you're making so many retarded presumptions that i'd love to continue dunking on you about but I'm starting to realize it's pointless.Grind you into the humus layer soon, troglodyte.
>>76990853Nobody is trolling, just because you're angry doesn't mean I am trolling. I am just laughing at how retarded you are for believing it was reta that you got and you believing scientists when they lie directly to your face. That's it.
>>76990860damn you're such an intellectual for believing you got reta, wowyou're so smarter than me, good job brother
>>76990706Was on a low dose (0.5mg/week) of ozempic for about 2 years, right before the craze started. Lost 65 pounds, stopped taking it at the beginning of last year due to insurance problems and whatnot. Lost another 45 lbs last year without it, haven’t gained any of it back or had any issues from it. I think i’m lucky.
>>76990817Hey, not attacking you, but you know what annihilates hunger even better?Natural satiety.>>76990838WEAK!Look at ye, a'Flailin' and a'Lashin' out because your "Miracle" is questioned.Sad.> users (OF) the most studied drug class of the past 20 yearsYeah, BULLSHIT!But go on shill.. peddle your wares.>2 moar weeks until there are adverse effectsLOLOLOLOL!!Go GUTSHOT yourself you lazy FATFUCKhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5397288/https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7014862/https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-03412-wINB5 only schizos site non-COI and current research studies
>>76990860It's okay ex-fatty, you were just more prone to feeling defensive and attacked due to your fucked up brainYou will always be fat, inside <3
>>76990706stops working after 2 yearsyou have to be on them and thus pay the kikes good money each month>>76990765G R I M >>76990776>I think it's a scam that merely promotes dependence on another overpriced pharma drug in today's subscription based system.this
>>76990910>>76990860I forgive you ex-fatty, maybe if they gave you reta you wouldn't be this buttblasted
>>76990910>>76990914><100 boi outsources his "thinking" to llmloving every laugh
>>76990765My gf is taking this>not losing muscle because she isn't stupid and is lifting as her doctor recommended>ass and boobs looking fine>face got slimmer and better>normal energy>more sex than before because she got more confidence
>>76990706I think its fine for people who are like 60+ and literally cannot exercise due to their age/size combo, and their metabolism is so low that its just hard for them to lose weight. I think the risk/reward ratio is great for these specific people. But if you're like 30 you shouldn't be taking this stuff. Hate to be cliche but there is no 1:1 substitute for hard work and dedication, there is ALWAYS a trade off.
>>76990875That's how you're supposed to use the drug. Lose weight, get used to what eating normal portions feels like, after dropping the drug keep eating normally.Unfortunately some people want the drug to do everything. My friend won't stop eating unless he vomits. I'm pretty sure he will regain all the lost weight once he stops the drug. These are the retards that complain it doesn't work.
>>76990934Yeah that sounds about rightI'm taking it too and it feels like magic because I dont have the infinite hunger anymore, I can actually plan my meals, eat as much as I plan and not feel like thinking about food 24/7I dont know if it will keep happening when I decide to go off it though
>>76990765I think most of the negative side effects are from people losing weight too quickly. These drugs are almost too effective at reducing appetite to the point where people are basically eating nothing. That allows you to drop weight VERY fast, but you will also lose a ton of muscle and your skin will appear lose and baggy. That is what causes the 'Ozempic face' that we've all seen. People who lose weight at a 'normal pace' (1-2 lbs a week) don't really get this.
>>76990924Mmmmm such a fearful and explosive response from ex-fatty
>>76990934Yeah, i see a lot of people who regain the weight start off on really high doses and lose 70+ pounds in 3-5 months which is just plain unhealthy. >my friend wont stop eating unless he vomits. That sounds more like a neurological or mental disorder, hopefully he can get help for it >>76990940Going off of it is scary because everyone tells you about regaining weight and whatnot, if you can taper the doses down before stopping it will definitely help your body get back to normal without gaining extreme weight back. The food noise being gone is the best part about the drug.
>>76990927She's probably fat as fuck. Mine only needed to lose 10lbs. And my girlfriend was really built. Your girl is really big. I think it's okay lardasses
>>76990706>solved obesitythere is nothing to solvereal food doesn't balloon you up, only jewish goyslop doesif you're obese you are not human
>>76990972She wanted to lose 20lb with it and already lost 15lb in 2 months
>>76990948If you have too much fat on your arms and lose fat, you'll have fat hanging from your armsOzempic face is the exact same phenomena except on the faceI don't think there is any way to avoid it other than surgery, but it's important to understand that it's not really the medication's effect, it's just that the fatass's skin was already stretched from all the fat.
>>76990706These really are the new generation of drugs because they have such consumer product names. Ozempic already sounds a bit off but Mounjaro and Zepbound don't sound like drugs at all.
>>76990999I can't wait until they have combination GLP-1 Agonist and Sildenafil compounded injectionsThey'll call it MANDINGO!
>>76990999unless it sounds like a wizard name, it's not a drug
>>76990979>Only 20lbsShe wishes. More like 20lbs on each limb
>>76990999How fucking nitpicky can you people be. Of all the things you could complain about you choose this? Mounjaro/Ozempic is not the "drug's name", it's the commercial brand of one of the laboratories that produce the drug.
>>76990765this is such a bullshit post lmao
A lot of people mad in this thread. I assume because they believe they "worked" for their weight loss while others took the easy way out of something.My Experience: Became an alcoholic around covid time, didn't work out, or eat well before that but spend basically 3/4 years drinking beer and eating fast food.Ballooned to 130kgs and basically thought it was impossible to lose weight/stop drinking/stop smoking etc.Got on Wengovy and it was the easiest thing ever. I even continued drinking like a total fuckup and was just shedding weight. Eventually when I hit 105kgs I gave up the drink/smoke and at around 100kg I started going to the gym.I'm (maybe) 93kgs now? Look and feel better then I ever have. I was surprised just how easy it was, and how bad my relationship with food was.SIDE EFFECTS:Some nausea after taking it, which I don't get anymoreI stopped taking it maybe 2 months ago. Still eat well, and still go to the gym almost every day. Haven't gained any weight back.TL;DR - Consult your GP, not 4chan.
>>76990776>cut out ALL sugar and high carb foods for a couple months until she fixed her fatty liver and insulin resistance.You do that by cutting out fats, not by cutting out carbs. I guess being retarded runs in the family.
>>76991445Based. I'm about to start it, but I'm starting at 95kg and want to get to ~75kg. Would you recommend hitting the gym since the start to avoid losing muscle? I'm not sure how effective lifting is when you're already at a gigantic caloric deficit.
>>76990706I look like a skinny but the facegains = you get female attn.
>>76991468Anavar 25 mg last 7 weeks
>>76991468Also yes fucking lift and get fckin protein
>>76990706>on tirzepatide for 6 months>245lbs to 185>lost 1pl8 on my squat/deadlift pr, bench and ohp are about the same>had to buy new clothes and weight beltbeen on maintenance for 2 months, beginning on reducing my dose to eventually stop taking it by June. I'm hoping that's enough time to reinforce better eating habits
>>76991433Google "ozempic muscle loss" and "ozempic face". They're real side effects. But most people don't have any muscle to begin with so they don't notice much
Yeah, alright to all of the above BUT can I just use it for a 12 week cut and force high protein intake rather than diet down for a year as a fat wobble slob?
>>76991825guess you're not constantly having to carry around an extra 100lb so your body is like alright lads time to dial back the leg muscle
>>76991937These are not ozempic side effects. They are side effects of being a fatass and losing weight quickly.Ozempic face is when your face's skin stretched to make room for all your fat. If you lose that fat it'll look like shit. Especially if you lose it quickly. No way around that other than surgery. It's the same reason why fatasses get that loose skin on their arms. Muscle loss is inevitable if you're on a huge caloric deficit for a long period of time. Just either do it slowly while lifting or build it back. Again unrelated to ozempic.
>>76992051That's pretty much what I am going to do now and yes you should be able to do it. Just beware that eating a significant amount of protein might be really difficult.
>>76991456And by what mechanism would that happen you cretinous moron?>carbs spike insulin>cutting them out stops insulin spikes...>Losing bodyfat from calorie reduction gets rid of fatty liver...It's not difficult. you're genuinely mentally stunted, probably from b12 defficiency ;)
>>76990706VERY simple but accurate scientific take:>what matters for total weight loss is CICO>macros absurdly determine quality of weight loss, the "O" part of CICO, nutrition and metabolic status, etc>so in order to lose BODY FAT, you need a good dietWhat is a good diet is another topic, my instant input is "do PSMF + IF", google if you don't knowHaving said that>good diet is easier said than done>cravings are real, and most people don’t have the willpower to resist>social life, advertising, etc always tries to sabotage you with hypertasty goyslopNow and only NOW GLP1s enters the picture as the good guy>once you have everything set and going on for your weight loss plan, your GLP1 of choice (Tirzepatide is probably the best) will immensely help you with cravings, hunger etc>It's like a +10 bonus on willpower to follow through with your diet>you STILL have do adhere to your dietBut people are assholes and will try to cheat their way into fitness with GLP1s and nothing else, hence poor results such as >>76990765God bless
>>76992612>>macros absurdly determine quality of weight lossIn simple terms what would this look like? I'd guess lots of protein and equal amounts of fats and carbs? I'm about to get onto the GLP1 train and plan to chug whey like a motherfucker and have it replace entire meals.
>>76992634Keep carbs up, eat enough protein (it doesnt have to be that much)Most muscleloss from weightloss is wrongly interpreted its actually just glycogen loss from reduced intakeYour body really is not stupid enough to lose much muscle when it has bodyfat and carbs to go through
>>76990706fatass sister in law has bene on this for 6 months>now eats at denny's 4 times a week instead of the usual 2 because it's a miracle drug!>now gets doordash at least 4 times weekly because it's a miracle drug!>snacks more because it's a miracle drug!>doesn't exercise or even just walk at all because it's a miracle drug!>gained 25lbs>it's a miracle drug because she should have gained 75
>>76992735isn't this shit supposed to suppress your appetite?
>>76992924You get used to it after a while. It still kinda permanently gives you more resistance to hunger, but if you want to eat you will eat.
I’m on retatrutide and it works. Lost about 13 pounds in the first 3 weeks on it and should get faster as I increase the dose. The only real side effect is the weird skin sensitivity. It’s expensive but worth it, when it gets FDA approved the Jewish pharm companies will charge $1000 a month for this.
Actual retard if you pay pharmacy prices, I get mine from global-peptides.co.uk and pay less than a third of pharmacy prices. They don't ship to the US but I asked them on whatsapp and the guy sent it to me in AZ
>>76992924her willpower is stronger than medical science, she just aims it in the wrong direction.
>>76993273you could have easily lost 13 pounds in 3 weeks simply by not being a gluttonous retard. instead you chose an honor-less weakling's path and got skin disease. and then continue on to call pharma jewish with a straight face? get a grip on yourself man.
>>76993509You gonna cry about it?
>>76993488You're probably still paying 3x what the chinks charge for it
>>76990765If you're hopping on the shot for ten pounds you'll never solve the issue
Ausfag here, tried asking my semi old asian GP for this shit, he refused and instead his advice was>join a basketball team>sign up to social pickleball I might actually (hypothetically) crush his skull with my hands next time I see him.
>>76990706I would be on it if it wasn’t expensive af
>>76990817I've read great things about pairing reta with a stronger ones like cagrilintide.It's a good pair because retas benefit is the metabolism boost.>>76990927That's the way to do it. People forget any weight loss comes with muscle loss. Any bodybuilder will tell you part of cutting is working on keeping your muscle as much as possible. Anyone who thinks glp1s magically make you lost muscle just doesn't want you to make it!
>>76991445I wonder if the glp1 helped with the alcoholism, there's studies that show that these it helps with those kind of behaviors.>>76991468Obviously lift, you will be weaker and won't be able to lift as much or make gains in your lifts, but when your slimming down, the point is to try keeping as much muscle as possible. >>76992493>>76992663Finally, some people who know what they're talking about.>>76994253If you really want it bad enough, do your bloods and get it from the graymarket aka chinx. You can get kits where your glp1 is <$1/mg. Plenty of glp1 forums where users do this.
>>76994389Tirz is $15 a month add $5 for non trash bac water and pins, reta maybe 10 dollars more a month. Buy from china
Lads I've read all this and looks good re. reta for a 12 week cut. One thing I wanna nail down in macros. I get that you should have high protein to combat muscle loss and also a highish carb intake. when it comes to fats, should I try and get any specific types of fats in my diet ? and what % of overall nutrients? also should I take any multivits, if so in what format ?
>>76994712I meant % percentage of overall calories not nutrients fuck
>>76990706I love these drugs. They help an immense amount of people and make /fit/ards seethe, because they're losing the only reason for moral superiority they had. It's showing now that obesity was never a motivation problem. It has always been a problem with neurobiology, hunger/satiety signals and environment. Also, they aren't miracle drugs. You still have to limit your caloric intake, exercise on a regular basis, count calories, make sure you eat enough protein. It's just much easier and possible for many people without suffering.
>>76994733I really AM superior both morally and physically for not needing to inject mystery jewish chemicals just to put the fork down though?
>>76994751You're not. You’re assuming everyone starts from the same biological baseline, which just isn’t true.Some people are born with dysregulated hunger and satiety signaling. Some develop insulin resistance or hormonal issues very early. Some grow up in environments that permanently shape stress, appetite, and metabolism. Often it’s a mix of all three."Putting the fork down" isn't the root cause, it's a visible symptom. GLP-1 drugs don’t remove responsibility; they correct a malfunctioning signal so effort actually works. If discipline were the key variable, long-term obesity wouldn’t track so strongly with biology and environment.Using tools to fix a broken feedback loop isn’t moral failure.
>>76994890>Some people are born with blah blah blahSo, I really AM superior then? :)
>>76994913Your fag ass is destined for rape when you get to heaven and God gives your soul to me. I’ll unwind the hands of time back to make your body into a child again and spend the afterlife torturing you forever.
>>76994918Could have just said "yes" you know :)
>>76993538no, but i am going to enjoy keeping my money and not having my skin fucked up, unlike you. stop taking magic potions then lose your ridiculously small amount of weight and talk about jews and someone might actually be impressed.
>>76990706/fit/ hates GLP1 because it allows obese people who they make fun of to become thin.
>>76990706it fixes being fat, doesn't fix the reason you were fat in the first place, same as fasting. gotta get rid of bad habits and develop good ones to stay healthy long term, or you'll yoyo back and forth
>>76992051That's the rapid fat loss diet and it's pretty much the go to method if you lift weights. Slow and steady is for regular people who don't exercise.I just use 0.5 mg of sema or even better 2 mg of reta and I lose on average at least 1 kg per week with just that alone while maingaining. When I want to speed things up I also add in T3 and clen; might even add in cagrilintide now because it's dirt cheap.For diet I just spam protein shakes with skyr on the days that I don't train and 1-2 meals on days that I do train
>>76995053>doesn't fix the reason you were fat in the first placeMany things in life do not have magic fairytale cures (yet).>gotta get rid of bad habits and develop good ones to stay healthy long termNaturally thin people don't do that either, they are just satiated after half a snickers bar for the rest of the week.>or you'll yoyo back and forthStay on GLP1 for life, bitch.
>>76994913No, I said you're not. You might be lucky in some aspects of life or genetic lottery. That does not make you superior.
/fit/ doesn't want to accept that all forms of hard work are now 100% negated by drugs. Roids = free muscles. Vyvanse/addy = free brainpower. GLP/GIP drugs = free thin body. No effort is needed in anything in life for success. Just enough money to buy the drugs.BTW all of the right wing grifter influencers you follow take all of these drugs. 100% of them. They laugh at you natties when they tell you to wake up at 4am when they wake up and megadose addy and inject 500mg test and stomp you into the ground in every area of life.
>>76995111This website is full of luddites. Being angry about someone taking ozempic is the equivalent of a horse trader being angry at Henry Ford
>>76992053most likely, extremely humbling to stall out on a 275 squat after being able to hit 380 a year ago. i'm looking forward to the fall bulk, but i don't miss wearing 36" and 38" pants either
>>76990706it's good for cheese inhaling retards who suck at math and are going to die at 30cico and lifting is all you need to lose dozens of lbs in a year
>>76992924some people are poor responders to glp, ex was on wegovy for years at the highest dose and didn't really have any results until switching to tirzepatide and titrating up to a mid-high dose. there's some folks out there who are just apex eaters and completely ignore their body's cutoff signals for hunger/fullness. sema/tirz/reta can be a game changer if you commit to a good diet and exercise plan AND stick to them, but the folks who get on a glp thinking that they can continue to slam big macs and walk 50 steps in a day are going to continue to be obese
>>76996303Cry faggot baby>>76996326You too. Stop projecting fatass
>>76995111>he believes in "free" shit in this worldWait until you grow up and realize that nothing is "free". You pay with everything, one way or another.
If you are skeptical of stuff like your pancreas constantly being bombarded by GLP-1 or your gut forgetting how to move properly that’s one thing. Most of the criticism ITT is just assigning regular crash diet side effects onto the drug. If you are 300+ lbs you are going to have loose skin no matter what unless you take 5 years to lose it. Also the lean body mass loss is mostly intramuscular fat and liver inflammation going down.
>>76996341How much you paying for air and sunlight moron
>>76990706I've heard it works, but I'm just being stubborn. Down from 390 to 345 since I started last september, and figure I can maybe hit something closer to normal through my own effort by the end of the year.I think the biggest problem is, unless I learn to change how I eat, and how I look at food in general, I'll just regain the weight before long. So a miracle drug won't address my underlying issues leading to obesity.
>>76997060I found doing something everyday helpseven if it's just a 15m walk rather than an hour of lifting and I write it downfor some reason it seems to keep me on track with watching my calories for the whole day
The only reliable way to lose weight is steady use of tobacco.
>>76996313>sema/tirz/reta can be a game changer>if you commit to a good diet and exercise planLOL this is like all those disclaimers "results may vary" "not a substitute for a healthy lifestyle" etc.
>>76997060>I think the biggest problem is, unless I learn to change how I eat, and how I look at food in general, I'll just regain the weight before long. So a miracle drug won't address my underlying issues leading to obesity.The drug sure makes it easier to relearn though
>>76995057I haven't pinned (yet) need a low enough BF%. I gain 8kg in a bulk then lose it, done this about 4 times now, so I know I can do it and my skin will be elastic enough to not leave me with disgusting loose skin. Once a low enough bf I'm considering jumping on gear , blast and cruise style. don't want to get really into it but I'm mid 30s now and think I've earned it from years of natty lifting thanks for your advice
>>76997044Pricetag of those isn't in any currency, but you still pay for it. With your time, with your energy, with your decisions and life conditions. I have a coworker that lives in city where air pollution is shit. They chose to live there because it's cheaper. She is paying with her health and her families health indirectly.
>>76997177You can use caffeine like nicotine without being fucking disgusting
>>76997177Only 13 year olds think cigarettes are cool
peptides seem to be the future of medicine. it's funny that people are so worried about these weightloss ones but will shove bpc157 up their ass no problem. stuff like Retatrutide will be prescribed in the future if you're so much as 20lbs overweight. if i was 300lbs and struggling to lose weight i would hop on that shit so fast. there is literally no excuse to be fat anymore.
>>76990999they sound like linux distributions
>>76990706I could use advice. I’m a bit stuck, not sure if I’m being a fag or not by even considering this.>lose over 100lbs at age 17It was so easy. I’m 30 now, nothings like it used to be. I’m having such ego problems. I feel like I’ll never let myself live it down if I use it. Like it won’t count.But I know that’s bullshit and all that matters is the end result. No one cares about how you get to the goal as long as you get there, and from a for myself perspective I already did it once naturally.Would it even be possible to say use this stuff to drop down to say 15% body fat stop using it maintain that weight for a while and then without any drugs finish the cut down to 10%? What about using it until I feel like maybe I would be used to eating less without issues like lightheadedness?>healthI feel this is most important more than ego bullshit. Who cares if I used a cheat code to get down to healthier weights so long as I do?How would going on walks and actually doing the work to go along with this drug affect things?Does it have any effect on muscle and strength?>egoIt’s so dumb, see above about goal and having done it already once. The ego is so gay. People are gonna shit talk no matter what you do. When I was 18 I had people claiming I cheated to get in shape when all I did was eat less and walk a lot. I already know of people who will try to say I “used testeronez” to get in shape if they see me leaner.>safetyIs it safe?>mechanismI still don’t quite understand, does it simply suppress appetite or does it do that AND also increase metabolism or just prevent metabolism from slowing? Does it avoid lightheadedness?>sides?Is this even right for me? Maybe I’m just being a bitch and I haven’t even truly tried. But then does it really matter? Doesn’t that just go back to ego? Idk. I used to look down on people who used this shit, maybe that was me coping. It all leads to the same place
>>77000314Also wouldn’t it be reasonable to expect that by spending so long eating a certain amount of food that when I eventually do stop taking it I would have totally new dietary habits formed?
>>76990706Gas kikes and deport browns.
>>76990706All you need:
>>76990765Something of a similar story, loved my wife's big hips and big boobs, she got addicted to ozempic and had massive personality changes and turned into a zombie, I honestly thought it was like demonic possession or somethingI had to threaten her pharmacist to get her off it because she was destroying our family, 6 weeks after I got her off it she was coming back to normal but then was called for a gastric bypass she had been 7 years on a waiting list forThey cut out her stomach, she lost 140lbs and now looks like a ghoul from fallout, she's literally grannymaxxing now and has the face of a 60 year old womanI'm trying to save up to leave her, because I can't look at her dishelleved form anymore without feeling sick, and I hate having sex with her now
>>77000819I’m curious, it seems the aging affect is due to collagen loss combined with the rapid fat loss. Could this be avoided or at least mitigated via quality collagen supplements and a diet with good sources of it? I would wager one would have to be very valiant about that effort.Couldn’t it also be reversed theoretically? I.e. basic fucking skin care regaining a normal amount of face fat?
>>76990859Donuts, oreos, 1000cal starbucks, french fries, etc are vegan.The standard American (obesity) diet is plant based.
>>77000949>Adding slop to solve the issues caused by the slopJust diet down lmao
>>77000949>Could this be avoided or at least mitigated via quality collagen supplements and a diet with good sources of it?No.Source: I crash dieted the old fashioned way (gained loads of weight because hypothyroidism) and ate lots of collagen coincidentally. I still look like I'm 60 now, which is super hard for me because I always looked very. very young. It was part of my character. At least I lost like 120 lbs.
>>76992503>American biochemLmao. Anyway, look at any fruitarian. 100% carb diet, starving spooky skeletons.
>>77000987>The standard American (obesity) diet is plant based.Every trad diet in the world is plant based. No one eats more meat than, say, bread or rice.
>>76991445>lot of people mad in this thread. I assume because they believe they "worked" for their weight loss while others took the easy way out of something.I get mad when people lie about the existence of "miracle drugs" or try to deny the existence of side effects.
mom offered to buy these things for me but she doesnt know that I just need to lift and stop eating delicious things to lose wait, and that I have a natty card.
>>77000314Are you asking us or yourself anon?If you’ve ever been 100lbs over weight you are spiritually and physically a fatty and always will be. You don’t really have a reputation to lose in the eyes of most people.
