bmi is accurateif the bmi chart puts you in "overweight" or "obese", you need to lose weightyou are not a special snowflake
>>76991408>t. dyelIf youve been lifting for a couple years and havent just fucked around you'll very likely be in the overweight category.
>>76991415thismy ffmi is 24 but im tall (193cm) and 31 non ffmi so its not as impressive. my end goal is easily visible abs while being obesetip if you want to also do this, look up the heaviest muscle groups (legs, back) and hit them 4x weekly
Real, im so glad im bmi 17
>>76991408>you need to lose weight if you're 5'11" 180 lbsi don't believe you :^)
are you sure this is accurate? I'm 5'8" 160lbs and I know I have an unc belly and would consider myself a fatass
>>76991415>>76991424this you? >>76983436you WILL look the best at the top end of healthy and bottom end of overweight category, that is peak natty. any higher is just fat fuck copers and roiders.
>>76991408Then explain...>Body mass index, waist circumference and the association with all-cause and cause-specific mortality: a 7.2-year follow-up cohort study in Shanghai, China>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s12889-025-25147-0
>>76991442Muscley fat men are the hottest kind of men, especially if hairy
>>76991415Being in the overweight category, even if it's muscle, puts extra stress on the organs. That's the real reason roided bodybuilders die younger. It's not the steroids themselves, its that the steroids allow them to get into the morbidly obese BMI category which dramatically shortens their lifespan, due to the chronic stress all that mass is placing on their organism.There's a reason that the long lived people tend to be small.BMI is law.
>>76991415>>76991424fatties
>>76991453>There's a reason that the long lived people tend to be small.see >>76991447that study literally found the lowest mortality in the middle of the "overweight" category.
>>76991415This kind of guy is ubiquitous across lifting forums and has been for more than two decades. You are not 20lbs from stage Arnold, you fucking fatty.
>>76991408bmi 45 reporting in
>>76991554wow you must have a crazy squat
I am 181kg tall, what would be my ideal weight?
>>76991564something like 240cm
>>76991447>>76991463>Shanghai, China
>>76991408Yeah I'll never get to 170. Wrestled in high school at 189. Graduated basic training at 220 and the lightest I ever got in Afghanistan was 195. Guess it's over for me bros.
Im 5'9 and i cannot get below 180, what do
I thought BMI didn't account for muscle, which is dense and heavy as fuck
>>76991408>trvth nvkeHave you guys noticed how everyone who says this is a fucking idiot?
>>76991458Boy you should really commit suicideDo you even lift at all, or do you just come on here to try to demoralize guys who do?t. not fat
>>76991538You're pretty stupid and I'm guessing don't liftA 6ft guy at 190 is 'overweight.' That's a fairly average gymbro at like 15% bodyfat.
>>76991463Chinese studies are psyops to harm the west.
>>76991718there's no easy shortcut to weight loss
>>76991408Google "prime Mariusz Pudzianowski", see the images.The dude in the picture has a visible six-pack while being around 32 BMI at a time. 5 times world strongest man. I dare you to call a guy with that physique "obese".BMI is inacurate and obsolete for people that have more muscle mass than the average 9-5 sedentary cubicle drone
>>76991934nta, yes he is per definition obese (bmi >= 30).mass is still mass, its not healthy to weigh this much, regardless if its muscle or fat.this guy is an oddity too, most overweight people are lardasses, its clear as day with how theyre not vascular at all
>>76991586thats nice and all but your still fat
>>76991453Steroid users die because of their heart enlarging eventually leading to heart failure.
>>76991408>>76991458>>76991538>>76991453Just another skinnyfat DYEL Pajeet post. Move along people.
>>76991426Hi there twinky.
>>76991408>bmi is accurateThen why was it changed so hard in 1998, creating the obesity epidemic out of thin air overnight?
>>76991408my favorite is how anyone in the obese BMI just dies at like age 65 independent of bodyfat.pretty cool to know just walking and staying skinny will keep you alive.>victim weighti have guns, if it's worth fighting for i'll just shoot the dude and lmao death by cop afterwords.the cops are mexicans here and will just shoot me anyways so might as well carry a gun.
>>76991408>170 cm>54 kg is okI'm calling this bullshit.
>>76991408What's the highest recorded bmi anyone has ever achieved?
>>76991945>not vascularThem niggas be missing all those veins and arteries and shit.
>>76991408My first goal was overweight @ single digit bf%The second goal was obese at single digit bodyfatI did bothYou'll never make it if you're afraid of some nerdy fuckwad telling you you're overweight
>>76991408Literally not designed or meant for individuals. It's more obsolete than daylight savings time and even more retarded that we ever used it in the first place. The only time in my life I was in the "healthy," BMI range, my family thought I had become anorexic. Friends joked and said I was a holohoax actor.
>>76991408obese definitely but overweight can have some exceptional cases with high muscle mass
>>76992138Cause there are too many fatasses
>>76991782Kek I am 6'1 190. And I am a not lean gym rat. My waist is probably 34.5 inches. This is not cool or impressive
>>76992733I'm 23lbs heavier at the same height with a smaller waist, kek.>>76991576>>76991815>Muh Anti-Chink BiasYou can read a Chink study on Burger data that also deboonks BMI...>The association of body roundness index and body mass index with frailty and all-cause mortality: a study from the population aged 40 and above in the United States>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s12944-025-02450-8Or even a Burger study saying BMI basically = BS and just measure bodyfat...>Body Mass Index vs Body Fat Percentage as a Predictor of Mortality in Adults Aged 20-49 Years>https://www.annfammed.org/content/early/2025/06/23/afm.240330.abstract>>76991453BMI is "law" like wearing Hijabs in Iran; might still be on the books but nobody gives a crap anymore.
>>76991447>study excluded thousands of people from the initial sampling because they already had cardiovascular problemsSampling bias. They tossed out all the fatties who had already fucked themselves at the start.Additionally, the raw numbers of the study show that less people in the healthy weight category died than in the overweight category. It's not until after "adjustment for potential confounders" (the adjustments themselves not published) that they "found" that overweight people supposedly die less than healthy people, even though the raw numbers show otherwise. In other words, they fucked with the models until it showed them what they wanted even though the actual results they collected don't support their conclusion.Further, mortality is not the only consideration when it comes to health. The study also found overweight people are more likely to develop chronic disease. Even if being overweight didn't reduce your life expectancy, it reduces your quality of life.
>>76992951Post physique then>he will never post physique because he is not 10lbs and 1 inch off from Arnold in competition
>>76991408Good goy,Your next booster is scheduled for tomorrow
>>76991408I would like to see an example of healthy BMI. Why don't you start by>post bodylet me guess, you won't because reasons
>>76991453>leaves out roids enlarge the heart and starts to effect it negatively ESL-kun I...
>>76992260ive watched some my 600 pound life and many times they are over 100 bmi i've seen some niggas at like 120, shits fucking nuts there was one nigga that put on 270 pounds in 3 months
>>76991408>6'0">healthy BMI @ 140lbslol, lmao even. is that chart even real or just ragebait?
>>76991934see>>76991538
>>76991408>5'6>1 off from severely obese>120 is still a healthy weight and not underweightWtf, I would be near a skeleton if I was that tiny.My cal intake would be around 1.2k.Eating soup alone 3 times a day would make fat.
>>76993667Almoat like bmi is bs an doesnt acount for muscle mass
>>76993671Does it account for bone mass and organ weight?
>>76993677Yeah
>>76993677How often do you increase your organ and bone mass?
5'9 181
>>76992733Good for you. I suggest you lift weights for a while before commenting on here
Most lifters are terribly underweight and understrong. That's a far bigger problem than overweight. Overweight means nothing, just overfat. And frankly if you are lifting hard and eating a decent diet, even if you are carrying fat it's probably not a big deal for your health.
>>76993819Post physique>you wont because you are no better or unnotably so
>>76993825I'm not going to because that's irrelevant. The purpose of 'post physique' isn't just to win arguments, newfag. It's to evaluate someone's advice.
>>76994400Thank you for telling the board I was correct. Post something useful and not a catty, anonymous potshot, faggot
>>76993822Go back to the Starting Strength forums Mark
>>76995108Ok fine fuckhead. I will post pic and you post pic. Happy?
>>76991408No, BMI was made for solely white men in mind. It doesn't work on the likes of black people and us Indians.
>>76995231I already stated my near negligible stats. I clearly work out but i am not impressive beyond normal people standards. You on the other hand, needed to be a gigantic homo and do some faggot anime "heh, do you think that's anything?" to an already forthcoming and earnest post while having nothing to back it up. you are a fat retard and should kill yourself
I have a 28.5” waist at 185lbs. How does one explain that?
>>76995280Look retardI said average 6ft gymbro at 190 is not 'fat' even though they have a fat BMIYou replied 'Yeah well I'M that size and I'M fat'Ok? So? You don't even lift so why interject? I'm talking about gym bros at 15% bodyfat. Just like I said
>>76993519>guy put an entire me on in 3 monthsWtf how? That's 90 pounds a month, was he eating children or something?
>>76993822This.All men should be AT LEAST 200lbs.
i was bmi 34 and im 27 now, working to get to 22 hope in the next 2-4 months, diet and lifts and cardio alternating daily, pic is me from 2018 im doing it all over again for like 10 times but i hope i keep the weight off this time
>>76991408If I was at the top range of healthy for my height, I'd be 6% bodyfat lmao
>>76991777yep, patricians say trvke
ITT: seething fattiesCan you do 5 clean pullies? No? Then you are just fat
>>76996842I could do 6 as a literal hamplanet powershitter and can do 15 jacked and lean but "overweight" so I think your pullup test is only marginally more accurate than BMI.
The "overweight" band is negotiable for men if you're capable of being brutally honest with yourself, but the "obese" line is just factual. Your health is compromised in some manner if you're above that line.
>>76991415Your heart and joints doesn't care if it's muscle or fat, flesh is flesh.
>>76993520I was 6'1" 148lbs in my freshman year of college. I ran cross country.
>>76991408>the man who invented the BMI chart is wrongWhen will you brownies learn?
>>76991408I love these threads
>>76997408300 posts of cope for being fatter than they realise.
>>76991408>chart stops at 6'5WHAT AM Ior is any weight ok with 6'9?awesome
>>76997467Genuinely do you even work out? Will you post physique?
>>76996287Nice progress. Ht/wt?
>>76997583Of course he won't lmao, he made a bait thread with 80+ responses.
>>76991408The best part is that basically every single instance of the chart being wrong, it's because it underestimates how fat the cow in consideration actually is.
>>76991408Watch any NFL game. Lots of guys at running back, linebacker, quarterback, receiver, etc., who are 6 foot to 6 foot 1 and 210-230 lbs. The BMI chart would define them as obese, while all of them are below 10% body fat.
>>76991408>mrw i'm 0.1 BMI away from being overweight
>>76992138BMI is epidemiologically defined via all cause mortality and hazard ratios. Normal, aka healthiest is a dynamic range. If the population's mass distribution (more fat, less muscle) causes moderate BMIs to become unhealthy, the cutoff shifts.
>>76998762bmi is a fucking meme for women, it says 25 is healthy for a womeme, but really they shouldn't be higher than 22 its gross.
>>7699876517 BMI women have the lowest rate of C-sections
>>76998762>BMI is epidemiologically defined via all cause mortality and hazard ratiosUh...>British Journal of Sports Medicine, Volume 59, Issue 5>Cardiorespiratory fitness, body mass index and mortality: a systematic review and meta-analysis >https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/59/5/339.abstract>Results 20 articles were included in the analysis resulting in a total of 398 716 observations. Compared with the reference group, overweight-fit (CVD HR (95% CI): 1.50 (0.82–2.76), all-cause HR: 0.96 (0.61–1.50)) and obese-fit (CVD: 1.62 (0.87–3.01), all-cause: 1.11 (0.88–1.40)) did not have a statistically different risk of mortality.Seems to line up with those Chinks who said 27ish BMI was optimal, eh?
>>76998477first pic top left i was 79 kg, 171 cm, 5'7bottom pic right pic is 64 kgmy max weight was 96 kg, no pic included there
>>76998912>overweight-fit>obese-fit>fit defined as upper range of cardiorespiratory fitness, determined by VO2 maxall those statements and paper are saying is that athletes with very high muscle mass (overweight) and low bodyfat percentage are closer to athletes of normal weight with low bodyfat percentage. there is nothing surprising here, and you need to understand what epidemiology (entire population) means.
>>76998752Wow, it’s almost as if professional athletes full of cutting edge steroids and with millions of dollars of doctors and analysts behind them are slightly different to some fat wagie who thinks they’re strong
>>76998931>you need to understand what epidemiology (entire population) means>analysis resulting in a total of 398,716 observations>statistically insignificant decrease in all-cause mortality among overweight-fit groupI care about finding the optimal biomarker statistic, not the risk of some random hamplanet or twink ACKing.
>>7699156477cm
>>76999042normal BMI, high fitness. this has been known for centuries
Im barely not underweight
>>76999048>normal BMIexcept literature literally saying overweight with low fat instead, kek.
>>76999057>i don't know what a confidence interval isfucking idiot lmao
>>76999073>i don't know what a confidence interval is>fucking idiot lmaolel see>>76999042>statistically insignificant decrease in all-cause mortality among overweight-fit groupBut yeah we went through some more recent literature on this last time...>Body mass index, waist circumference and the association with all-cause and cause-specific mortality: a 7.2-year follow-up cohort study in Shanghai, China>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s12889-025-25147-0>The association between body mass index, waist circumference and waist-to-hip-ratio with all-cause mortality in older adults: A systematic review>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2405457725001421>Body Mass Index vs Body Fat Percentage as a Predictor of Mortality in Adults Aged 20-49 Years>https://www.annfammed.org/content/early/2025/06/23/afm.240330.abstractThe takeaway from all these is that "healthy" BMI is some B.S. and you should be a little overweight with low bodyfat if you really want to mortality-risk-min.
