>Spend 10 years eating clean, lifting 4x a week, dump thousands of dollars into grass fed pasture raised cage free whatever the fuck, count your calories, bulk / cut, mentally torture yourself and look small for half a decade>or do a medium cycle and get the same results in a few monthsLife does not care if you cheat. The results speak for themselves.
>>76994109I'm "natty" on literally over 100 supplements and larger than Clav plus bro to the left of him, a little smaller than bro on the right. You probably need to re-define /fit/ memes for...>our foul year of the molecule skill issues ack-chilly (((8104/4)))
>>76994109See you in 10 years.... oh wait!
>>76994109You shorten your life and harm your body when you do gear.If you're not competing it makes 0 sense to do gear lmao. I've lifted natural consistently for like 6 years and people can tell I lift. I've even mogged roid users (but they obviously didn't know what they were doing).I don't even look that far off from the left or right, I enjoy eating too much to ever look like the dude in the mid.
>>76994111>I'm "natty" on literally over 100 supplements and larger than Clav plus bro to the left of him
yet women will fawn over toned kpop twinks
>>76994111I'm bigger than anyone in this picture and I can now do whatever maintaining my mass and just reaping the benefits of my accomplished hard work without the exogenous drugs's side effects. Also clav's chest and midsection are dreadful.
>>76994109Guy in the middle has horrible inserts yet looks like the most obvious roider kek, better luck next life I guess
>>76994139>without the exogenous drugs's side effectsIf you say fuck the androgen receptor and fuck the GH/IGF-1 axis, most of the other weird muscle-building shit nobody ever heard has closer to 0 sides.
i'm 185cm 107.5kg natty with a visible 4-packi'm good lil bruh
>>76994146The three of them manage to have horrid midsections in their own separate way. Left is extremely wide and does not allow him to bank on his broad shoulders that much. Middle is jarringly underdevelopped. Right is fridgemode.>>76994154Whatever, I got my body anyway without it so might as well keep it that way
>>76994139>Also clav's nipples and midsection are dreadful.fixed
>>76994160>claims, being the most generous with bodyfat estimations that let’s you see a 4pack, atleast 25 ffmiI don’t believe you yet
>>76994109>destroying your hormonal axis and hypertrophying your heart for life so you can look good for 5 years maxbig brain move
>>76994202Zyzz is the reason this board blew upNewfags will never understand
>>76994207misc dying is the reason this board blew up
>>76994109Left ultramogs other two.
why do retards like op pretend roids is a magic drug win button? Wow more organ inflammation thats going to be fun in a few years. Having to do TRT feeling worse more inflammation then sedentary fat ass grandpa in a decade or 2 wow just hop on gear bruh its magic.
>>76994109The biggest thing to me is not only do roid users all seem to deflate to their pre-lifting levels if they get to a crisis point and have to give up, but they're also literal slaves to pharma for TRT for the rest of their life having an absolute physiological need for that exogenous testosterone. Even if you think you'll look good and want to gymcel max, besides any other side effects, is it worth the shrunken balls, infertility, permanent cystic acne infection, and neuropathy and sprains/injuries?What gets me too is what an oldfag in the other anti-roiding thread said.>"Back in the early 2010s, fraud was a couple of guys bellyaching about whether to start TRT for clinically low test, or guys wanting to jump to 500mg test for a "blast", now every guy in there is running 500mg to cruise and hitting 1000mg or over for blasts and tren is actually used, not just a meme".None of this faustian bargain chinese bathtub chem meme shit will end well, and we're already seeing high schoolers and especially mentally ill zoomette roiders start to eat shit by falling for memes and social contagion.
They aren't even 180lbs, let alone 200+ (what a man should weigh)
>>76994243>but they're also literal slaves to pharma for TRT for the rest of their life having an absolute physiological need for that exogenous testosterone.weird cope, do you call people you see on the street "literal slaves to grocery stores for food for the rest of their life having an absolute physiological need for that exogenous sustenance"?
>>76994252That is the most intellectually destitute analogy I've ever heard.80$ gets me a week of nutritious food that aids in my gains, keeps me immaculately healthy, and I can get walking any store. After destroying the body God gave you for instagram likes and chubby sluts, you have to go and beg a doctor every year for a script renewal and go through laborious hormonal panels and justifications just to get a simulacrum of your basic essence of manhood back, and God forbid anything like the adderall supply crisis from 2023 hits and your ass is grass, laid out and ineffectual while I'll be fucking your (admittedly obese) wife.
i bet those guys have wild gay sex with each other
Dude on the right has the worst face but best frame by a long shot
The millenial entire existence has known nothing but equality and equity shoved down their throat at every turn."Play by the rules!""Dont compete, everyone gets a trophy!"And then hear comes a roider making 10 years worth of gains in 12 weeks. The roider is the antithesis to the zoomer. Someone who doesn't play by the rules and is better off for it (inb4 zoomers cope and say a single cycle of 500mg test destroys your organs lmao retards). You losers don't know how to handle it. "How could he do this!? Doesn't he know about fairness!! It's unfair!!!" HahahahaThe best part is that it's always genetic trash that hate roids. You were delt a shit hand in life and there's literally a remedy for your situation but your fucktarded sense of pride (and I really mean absolutely fucktarded. like how the fuck does a genetic deadend incel even get a sense of pride? My guess: it's from being terminally online and completely withdrawn from the real world. They never face adversity and never get taken down by a peg because they literally never interact with other humans in person. Anyways...) your fucktarded sense of pride has you thinking you don't need roids. "I can do this on my own". Lmao, no you can't. You losers NEVER post body with timestamp. You're all genetic trash. Like, imagine being some 5’6 genetic hating the one thing that could save youHonestly it's because you're all scared to pin. That's really the bottom line. Little beta nerds too scared to jam a needle into your leg. It's why oral SARMS are so popular with you little pussies.Stay natty. No one cares, just stop making these obvious cope threads
>>76994281No I'm 6'5" with an amazing frame, great rib cage, and hit 4pl squat for reps within a year and a half of training.I just don't want to fry my balls or see retards trying bathtub chems and get fucked up for life and kill themselves out of desperation.
>>76994281You're an incel because you're a piece of shit, not your physique. Literally just got home from hanging out with some friends and one of them is a dyel skinnyfat manlet who's rotating like 5 hot chicks just because he's charismatic. But you want a magic pill so you cope it's because your pec tit isn't large enough and then you can just inject some magic juice.
>>76994111post body (you won't)
Why would I roid when I can look like this natty in just under 3yrs of natty lifting? Which is more than enough to attract women.Am 28 now and life just began, I’m nowhere near close my natty limit and still have room to grow, my diet and training is far from minmaxxed or perfect, I don’t have plans to compete and dealing with sides from roids is annoying.These dudes are living on borrowed time, they might mog me now but it’s unsure they’ll make it to mid 30s or even 40 with all the shit they’re taking, if I started roiding now I’d do an actual cycle and not pin my ass 2-3x a week to look natty like gayvicular.
>>76994281He's... he's right. I hate hearing it so much, but this guy is right.Fitness was supposed to be the moment where I turn my shitty life around. I was dedicated and almost never missed a day, but things went wrong, failed bulks, lost progress and had to start over multiple times due to injuries, disasters, etc.... and time didn't wait, it kept moving. 15 years have gone by now and I'm still DYEL, and now I've started balding. I knew this all deep down, but I was too stubborn: "I want to see what I could achieve naturally if I just did things the 'right way' this time," or, "if I do roids I'm going to age worse and lose what little hair I have left!"But... the painful reality is that I've already run out of time; if we are sticking to "natural", nature has clearly already declared that my life is over. I had my shot and I missed. It's 15 fucking years later. I look at myself in the mirror: balding, aging. I look around me: teenage chads and stacys everywhere who hadn't even hit puberty yet when I first started lifting, are now joining gym and MOGGING me within a few years of starting, even some younger femoids are lifting more than me. I'll admit, I have lost it and had public meltdowns. They laughed. They don't know the reason for my meltdown, they don't know what I've been through, they don't know what it's like to struggle and sacrifice over a lifetime and still fail, they don't care, there's no participation trophy, all that matters is the winner, whether or not he 'tried really hard' doesn't matter to them. Hard work isn't respected, only results are. There's only one way to achieve the result that properly represents my years of dedication, and it's not going to be natty. Maybe then I'll finally earn the virgin teen >gf I deserve. I struggled with utmost dedication and made so many sacrifices, and I did NOT do all of that for 15 straight years just to end up becoming a cringey lolcow living out a constant humiliation ritual.
>>76994281Most of the people "hating" on him just feel bad for what's going to happen to him or hate what he promotes.We've seen stories like his dozens of times, and we already know how it ends. People who take these drugs he's taking age extremely fast and die an early death.We've seen plenty of bodybuilders in recent times that are like 26yo but look like they're in their forties. A lot of them die around age 30 from the roids and other drugs. It's been like this for a while.The "hate" mostly comes from the fact he's promoting that lifestyle to other people, and hundreds of thousands will unwittingly follow in his footsteps and ruin their lives.And what did he get for all his "cheating"? Sex? There are fat, short and bald passport bros getting more sex than him in 3rd world countries with less than 1/10th of the effort.A girlfriend? There are fat neckbeard nerds with girlfriends. Look at Boogie2988.Clavicular is the epitome of "putting pussy on a pedestal" to the point he's basically killing himself for it. Of course we "hate" on him for promoting this to other young people.
>>76994109>take roids >do shitty routine >get fit >stop taking roids >still with the same routine >get fat and all your muscle is lost >you lost your balls >forced to take roids
>>76994366There's something poetically perfectly symbolically "gymcel" about this picture. It's all in the way it crops off with just a little bit of weak chin and somewhat puffy face visible, despite having a decent enough lean physique. Just imagine if it were cropped off with even the tiniest hint of a strong chad chin, how drastically different an impression it would make just from that alone. Worse yet, imagine how normal and DYEL that frame will look as soon as he puts his shirt on, you wouldn't know he lifts if you saw him in public, so despite his dedication the women's judgment will be based on his genetic facial characteristics alone. This photo unintentionally emphasizes the blackpilled reality for all gymcels, that there is no gym for your face or frame. Many such cases.
>>76994375I’ve seen your posts in a few threads, you fell for the squatz n oatz plus gomad ss meme, all you had to do was get lean, brah. And maybe leave the ego at the door and actually follow a bodybuilding program with lots of isolation and techniques that build an aesthetic physique instead of worrying about ur gay squat numbers. If you actually lifted for 15 years you probably have a lot of muscle under that fat but just like 99% of /fit/ you refuse to cut because it’s a “waste of time” or “victim weight”, you fell for the psyops.You will go thru whole 2026 again perma bulking with a bloated inflamed face and gut and wonder why the chicks don’t even look at you, because bulking and eating like a pig while going to the gym isn’t hard, cutting and maintaining 10% bf actually is.
>>76994382he's gay. it's not so much about getting women but in competing against other men. he's obsessed with measuring himself up to other men because he is ashamed of himself. basically like when a man stops enjoying sex with a woman and he needs to be cuckolded, the sex is no longer about the women it's how he measures up to the other man. clav is basically a walking cuck and doing his best to "mog" other men because that's what gets him off. he's a faggot and hasn't realized it yet.
>>76994391Kek, that’s just a bad angle but those fags in OP’s pic are 24/7 looksmaxxing and trying to take pictures at perfect angles to the point you never catch a flaw on their face or jawline, it’s fucking cringe and gay.>look DYEL in a shirtYe, go look at gayvicular pics wearing polo shirts, you can barely tell he has ever touched a single weight in his life while pinning the whole pharmacy into his ass every week.
>>76994164Did you get 'right' and 'left' mixed up again?
>>76994375>>76994404I'd be curious what you actually got your lifts to. There's no way you got to a 4 plate squat and are crying like this. You probably got to sub 3 plate and still looked small and are whining about it 10 years later>>76994411What size is that shirt. Be honest
>>76994404>>76994429N-no... the past 15 years may have been failures, but 2026 will be the year. It HAS to be. I've been slow-bulking for a couple of years now. I can't go another year at 25%(?) body fat, especially now that that I started balding and getting a few grey hairs in my genetically inferior pubebeard. It's just too many looksmin at once. My buttsquat and deadlift got to 335lb/475 lb 1RM respectively before I broke my back and had to start over and then finally admitted to myself that buttsquats and barbell deadlifts were stupid memes the entire time and quit them for alternatives instead. I'm going to try doing a natural cut soon one last time, if it doesn't work out then I need to jump onto steroids until I die because I am suddenly aging rapidly and realizing that I don't have time to start over again anymore. If I gymcel hard enough maybe I can finally attract the perfect pure virgin teen wife from a rich family who will pay for my TRT and hair transplants.
>>76994448>perfect pure virgin teen wife from a rich familyI found two of these and fumbled them both. Anyways you sound like a killer I'm sure you won't have that problem. Just keep doing your butt squats and adjust your diet
>>76994109>spend 10 years lifting (which you should've learned to enjoy by this point), eating food that actually makes you feel good and taking care of your sleep - because those 10 years are going to pass anyway >or, get this, you pay a subscription fee on using your perfectly healthy ballsYou put yourself in the same category as cancer patients and trannies. The odd ones out here are the cancer patients because they're the only ones who aren't mentally ill.And those 10 years? It's not like nothing happens and suddenly you have a peak natty bod. You get there gradually. Lean maxxing is 80% of the game, men always overestimate how much muscle women like.
>>76994429It’s like medium to large, it’s a football shirt, if you wanna look like you lift in a shirt just buy ones that accentuate ur bicep line, even pro bb look like they don’t lift in large baggy shirts
>>76994448Nigga being lean is 90% of the game, this is why we say lean is law, taking roids will turn you into an even greater bloatmaxxed ogre which isn’t attractive to most girls also the biggest blackpill is that the gym alone isn’t enough to make it, having a good job and actually talking to women is prob 10x better than gymceiling
>>76994475>taking roids will turn you into an even greater bloatmaxxed ogreI'm literally getting outlifted by teen chads and even some powerlifter femoids now. If I do this naturally, it's going to take half a year to lean out, and then another full year to regain enough strength to outlift femoids and not be humiliatingly emasculated anymore. I'm suddenly aging rapidly and balding and running out of time, I need to lose weight to lean out and get stronger all at once immediately and lose my virginity to a virgin teen wife QUICKLY before I go completely bald. But I'm told if I roid or do TRT I'll age and bald even faster? It's over.
>>76994109I'm natty and would bet any money I can 1v3 this shit
>>76994448Just hop on retatrutide
>>76994506If I was you I’d just kill my self
>>76994610I can't give myself permission to die until I get to single digit bf%, so that I can die aesthetically.
>>76994109This is the gayest picture I have seen this year
>>76994465the only time when to give up hope is when you die.you said its the last time you attempt a natty cut? then put 105 % of your effort into it and make it count.Godspeed friend
>>76994109>ditching a healthy lifestyle for a literal drug addictionthis is gay and degenerate and you should all fuck offat least zyzz had the decency to die
>>76994281post physique
>>76994109Teenagers in 2025.
>>76994109>Life does not care if you cheat. The results speak for themselves.sure, but your peers will have their own judgements. so anyone who is actually into fitness will, subconsciously or consciously, separate others into their appropriate categories. if you actually believe the life doesn't care aspect then ideally you wouldn't care what others think anyway. it shouldn't bother you that there are people who look at you with an asterisked view
>>76994111Ah it's the fisetin schizo.
>>76994411lol I knew you looked merdestinosomething about that lizard skin that screams calango
>>76994121go on booktok and see what women actually lust for
Crazy how nearly everyone in this thread has a superior physique to these three and apparently many other roiders but no one has posted their body
>>76995537nice try, /r/lgbtia++bbq
>>76994391you're an idiot
>>769941093 fags, heh
>>76994109This feels extremely homosexual for some reason
>>76994109they all look terrible
>>76994113>If you're not competing it makes 0 sense to do gear lmaowhat is this retarded meme everyone here keeps repeating?You have to roid for years before you even have a chance at competing.That goes for most pro sports too.You dont wake up one day and say "well now that I'm in the NFL or a pro bodybuilder I better start roiding"
>>76995698yeah I think the fact they're all posing like this in the bathroom of one guy's apartment kinda let the cat out of the bag
>>76994366Looking good bro.
>>76994983I'm pretty sure he's also Jewish
>>76995846just a few hot dudes taking their shirts off to mire each other in the mirror nothing gay about that
>>76995859It's actually the opposite you dumb fuck. You have to first be genetically gifted to even stand a chance making it onto the varsity team as a freshmen in highschool. Those are the only athletes that have even a sliver of a chance to make it to college ball. Then on top of those genetic gifts you have to be physically gifted enough in your sport to even make a name for yourself in college ball. Only THEN is it a good idea to start roiding as everyone is at that level.If you pop your wad and immediately get on roids in highschool you ain't making shit because that only proves you weren't genetically gifted at birth nor have the mechanics for the sport in general right off the bat.
>>76994983>>76996183>da j000z are trying to replace my favorite tranny poison hair drug with some immunomodulatory strawberry extracts, help!
>>76994111>supplements and protein powder>nattyHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I feel good. I don't care about how I look.
>>76994281Yes I am scared, not of the needle but of having to take test for the rest of my fucking life.
they still get ugly girls with those physiques.what is the point if you are just going to fuck ugly white bitches?i have never seen clavicular with an attractive girl. it's always some mid white bitch that he pretends is attractivehe calls sydney sweeney when all the girls he gets are mid
>>76996222he calls sydney sweeney mid when*
>>76996193>have to first be genetically gifted to even stand a chance making it onto the varsity team as a freshmen in highschool.lol holy shit.anyone who was active as a child and could catch a ball could make a high school varsity team.You are a complete dyel loser who probably thinks doing a single push up or pull up is an feat of strength because you spend your whole life sitting a dark room playing video games and jacking off to weird cartoons for 18 hours a day since age 8Pathetic
>>76996210Thanks for the confirmation
>>76996217>he breathes air, eats food & drinks liquids>produces literal test with his nuts>still calls himself "natty">ack-chilly 1000*2 & 26
>>76996222oh my goddddddd
>>76994411nice, saved to my motivation folder. if i ever think i look like shit i can just look at your undefined arms and nonexistent delts
>>76994475Roids on a cut will not bloat you if you eat healthy.
gemmy thread
>bumping from 10kys sharty
>balding>infertile>12 year oldRoidtrannies sure are delusional
The only people who post threads like this are children who haven't experienced gains so they're in a perpetual state of deciding who to follow for the best advice
>>76994109I'm mogged by these 3 men, yet somehow I know I get more pussy than them...
>>76999049>yet somehow I know I get more pussy than them...no you don't lmao clav is 20 and has slept with over a hundred women
>>76999053Rookie numbers. By 18 I was at 1,000.
