As someone who has lifted for 11 years now, don't expect to look like Jeff Seid, or David laid or any super asthetically pleasing guy if you didn't have naturally wide shoulders, dominant lats and a small waist. People who have genetically small or average shoulders or blocky waists will never look like them. So if you don't already look the best among your friends group or class or whatever before you started lifting and you did it because you looked like one of the worst then you're probably going to look average after working out consistently for at least a couple of years. This is the harsh reality for the average guy.
>>77003607Yes never skip genetics day. But doesn't Steve Reeves wide shoulder shrugs naturally widen clavicles?
Thank god i have a good frame
>>77003607Don't lift because you expect to look like a god. Do it because it's healthy and will make you the best version of yourself. Does anything think it's better to be soft and doughy just because you can't look like Jeff Seid?
>>77003679Most young guys start lifting to get women and think they'll end up looking like an aesthetic demi-god. In reality the most will see that things things don't go their own way and will either give up or turn into powershitting hogs with diabetes and hearth disease.
>>77003679>Most young guys start lifting to get women and think they'll end up looking like an aesthetic demi-god.Most guys are also lazy bastards. 99% of men, can have demi-god level aesthetics in 5 years.
Bodybuilding is the most criminal psyop of the century. What a scam it turned out to be. I wish I never started my career as a gymcel. Biggest mistake of my life.
>>77004052>doing with their livesLike shit posting on a mongolian basket weaving forum?
>>77003607>as someone who has lifted for 11 yearsI'd be surprised if you have ever bought a gym membership in your life. Post body with timestamp or just rope.The first ever Mr. Olympia was born with average genetic and now he's remembered as one of the greatest of all time.>>77003671There are no bad frames, only under-muscled frames.>>77003700>>77004034>>77004052Samefag
>>77004111Have you ever played a sport,
>>77004101but I work out for free (job benefit), I spend no extra money on any supplements or anything, just 1.5h every other day (including commute). never had an injury, look and feel much better than if I didn't work out.bodybuilding is fantastic if you're not a retard
>>77004101My mind and body are way healthier since i stopped sitting behind a screen all day. Stop coping.
>>77004132No, I was fat and played video games.
>>77004178Dont think getying really into lifting is any more of a psyop than gaming all day. Actually if one of them is a jewish trick id argue that it's gaming.
>>77004233Of you saw a picture of me as a kid and now you would not be able to say i have gifted genetics but put in hard work.Skill issue. Good luck.
This board confuses me sometimes. I just want to improve and get stronger, idc how I look.
>>77004270Maybe you do have abnormally bad genetics. Technically possible.
>>77004088Larry Scott is a great example of saomeone who does not have a great frame. He has narrow clavicles. What he DID have was a great propensity to build mass. So he built his shoulders to appear wider by building up the mass of the entire shoulder girdle. Heavy pushing and pulling. Your goal, if aesthetics are your dream, is to become as fucking massive and musclar as possible, then diet down to leanness. You should NOT desire to stay lean and just try to build up certain parts. That just wont work for most people. I was recently listening to a podcast and they were saying it is much easier to make a massiver mound of muscle into a competive open class bodybuilder than it is to diet down a bikini competitotr who has almost no muscle mass into a competitive bikini class competitor.The more muscle you have, the better it will look at X% of leanness.
