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Honest thoughts on smoking and drugs? Are there any benefits or is it just a humiliation ritual and useless cope?
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>>77004575
Taking a shitload of acid and doing an insane work out is one of my favourite things to do, I dont take any other drugs.
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Weed is one of those things I miss dearly, but I really don't think anything positive comes from it.
Man do I feel good with just a little weed in me though.
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>>77004575
Tobacco curbs my fat fuck impulses, but thats it. Dont start. I prefer zyns tho, tobacco tastes and feels like shit
>t. Heavy smoker for 16 years and regretting it hard
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Any shortcut to dopamine is bad for you
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>>77005520
No. It isn’t.
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>>77005309
And then everyone stood up and clapped
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>>77004575
If you're a normie just go be a slave and that'll be your best life

If you're a hyper autist or something then go ahead be a wizard
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>>77004575
I'm on the fence I feel like I got into nicotine in my mid 20s and it hit me hard. It was the fuse to pushing myself into lots of fun but self indulging behaviors. I been smoking cigarettes this week. I'm not intending on continuing but damn it's hard to not attribute goodness to nicotine when it's been there with you through lots of bullshit
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>>77005576
Also to add, I used to vape until I felt numb. Didn't touch a cigarette until this 2 weekend ago a goth girl shared one with me at a show. I've gone through 2 packs of the girly types. Then most recently I found a pack in death valley
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>>77005580
Good.
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Bad for your health and brain
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>>77005604
Idk I feel like I have done mental disorder sometimes I get fucking emotionally irregularities. I also been abusing nitrous like a dumb duck
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>started smoking when I was 18
>switched to vaping at around 20
>switched to snus at 23
>just quit nicotine two weeks ago at 27
>cravings are endless
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>>77004575
Weed is for people who train hard. It helps with recovery. Don't bother with it if you're a pussy.
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Sorry buck, buck I exude Clint Eastwood energy. It's worth the mung cancer
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>>77005520
Are you implying that masturbating in public isnt good for you? Cause i dont give a shit
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>>77005313
This, it’s great going for a run or a swim after a joint, but if I buy an oz I’ll have a joint every day until it’s gone the want to buy more, so just don’t buy it any more. Was a very regular smoker of weed for about 15 years but it’s just pointless after you have been smoking a few years without taking breaks.
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>>77005767
Keep going anon!

I just quit a few months ago. From what I remember the cravings got better after 2 weeks.

This helped me prepare for what I was in for when I quit:
https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/
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>>77005837
Same identical shit! I swear I just have an addictive personality when it comes to weed.
Alcohol doesn't click but weed does.
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>>77005576
>hard to not attribute goodness to nicotine
It requires your brain to work like this. Be strong, be smart, be free.
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>>77005767
>>77005923
>2 weeks
More like two months. Probably three before the thought of nicotine never occurred to me at least once every few days.
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>>77005837
>>77006348
Same. I don't really understand the "addictiveness" of weed. I realize that it doesn't cause withdrawals but its got to be more "chemically addictive" than people think it is. I dont believe its strictly psychological.

Because if I have weed in my house I am getting high you better fucking believe it. Even if I know I will just be a little bit retarded and eat too much and that its pretty pointless. I am subconsciously being compelled to do it in a way that is stronger than something purely psychological if that makes sense.
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I was addicted to meth. Or I still am because addiction is for life.

It’s better not to know. The anti drug commercials are actually right about meth, once is enough to change your life and not in a good way.
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>>77004575
I was one of the biggest smokers here but it stinks too much and worse it rapes you're respiratory system. I would smoke joints while long distance running bro. Never got called sexy doing it just got the cops called on me once "there's a guy smoking in the road!" Just vape and do edibles. THC double edge sword PED it makes rooning forever easy but on edibles you'll sometimes have to suddenly lay down in the grass for a while because you feel like you might pass out but overall it's a PED
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>>77005571
Hyper autists should fuck hookers, men shouldn't be allowed to get no action
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drugs are fun if you have self control, I get proper drunk and I smoke weed only a few times a year, and always without becoming a mess.
Smoking cigarettes is stupid because you are compelled to do it all the time and it gives you nothing in return, lame as fuck. Cigars/pipes always seemed more interesting to me, but I don't like the taste of tobacco anyway.
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>>77005767
Smoking is a reasonable coping mechanism for stress. If you're not constantly stressed, then don't.
Adderall can be useful if you have some task to channel it into, but you'll feel useless when you're not on it. Don't recommend.
Acid is often praised, but it permanently alters your brain. Wouldn't recommend unless you hate yourself.
Anything else has no tangible lasting benefits. You'll just get addicted for a rush that'll never be as good as it was.
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>>77006495
You smoker fags with your “muh stress cope”. You’re stressed because you’re addicted to nicotine.

If you really want the benefits of smoking (nicotine is a nootropic) then chew some nicotine gum instead of being a trashy idiot smoking cigarettes.
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>>77004575
>smoking
terrible
>drugs
could help, depending on the drug obviously

All the "straight edge" posters here that listen to kpop and take testosterone and HGH will say that those aren't drugs.

I'm old now so I don't fuck with anything other than THC edibles. I used to drink and do/did most drugs, nothing too crazy relatively speaking.

Nothing beats taking some edibles before a run and before going to the gym and getting both that runner's high and the THC high.
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>>77006511
I can tell you're just irritated at the smell of smoke and have no experience with it.
Anyone here for advice on smoking, obviously ignore the angry autist who has never smoked.
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>>77006513
driving on a tiny amount of weed is more sketchy than driving hammered drunk to me. Weed will make me "zone out" and shit. Even super drunk I can turn the music off and focus on driving and its fine.
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>>77004575
It's like fast food. It can make your life better, if you're able to keep it in moderation.
I have tried a bunch of stuff, once or twice or three times throughout my life, when offered.
My life is better for having done it. I have fond memories of some of those times. It lead to some of the cooler experiences I've had.
So a life with sparse, appropriate drug use is probably better than a life with complete abstinence. But that is certainly the second best option.
My rule generally would be never buy anything for yourself. Just take when offered. Don't be a mooching cheapskate. I just mean don't buy it for your own personal use. If you have to kick in or whatever then fine. But once you start buying it for yourself, to use alone, then you're running head first into trouble.
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>>77006456
America is determined to deny hyper autists pussy. They can't get laid. So pay for it? No way!
Why not? Uhh I guess because America caters to the whims of women and women find the idea of nerds getting laid too icky to tolerate?
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>>77006549
Oh no I don't drive high, I don't even go cycling high.
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>>77005520
this.
short-term dopamine fixes are equivalent to eating a pile of sugar. feels good briefly but will absolutely ruin you in the long term.
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>>77006548
I used to smoke and it was a retarded thing to do, and still is.
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https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/76968406
How many times are you going to make this same exact thread?
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>>77005520
>exercising it bad for you.
>eating a banana is bad for you.
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>>77006670
No one using the term "you smoker fags" has ever smoked. Come off your bs already, you're only making yourself look retarded.
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>>77004575
I smoke cigars because I like the taste. However oddly enough the best conversations of my life have happened when smoking so.
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>>77005309
dude as someone whos done acid and shrooms I dont think you were actually working out during a trip
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>>77004575
Caffeine is as severe a drug you can run without any drawbacks, and even that must be done in moderation. Everything else is just trading health for temporary feels.
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>>77005767
I smoked 2 packs a day when I finished highschool.
Swapped to vaping and got to 4ml of 20mg/ml juice, so about 4 packs a day equivalent.
Worked my way back down to 2mg/ml juice or whatever the lowest was, then just quit after a week of that.
I honestly don't remember the cravings, but I know they weren't too bad for me. I'm an ascetic, hesychast, runner, meditation, vegan WFPB autist who has infinite willpower though so your mileage may vary.
Good luck stuff is poison.

I used to hit the vape three times anytime I did basically anything. Was big into WoW pvp at the time, so like every kill, fight, or arena I'd rip the vape three times. When I got through the nicotine withdrawal WoW (arguably a worse addiction than tobacco) had no zest. So a cool side effect.



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