Why do people still give a shit about Flat Bench Press when Incline is the one that actually matters?Your chest will look like bitchtits, if you don't focus on Incline. Upper Chest is what gives you that nice meaty look in tanktops. All you get from flat is bitchtits.
>>77010393The real redpill is dumbbell vs barbell bench press. The dumbbell fixes imbalances, the barbell just gives you shoulder injuries in exchange for a bigger number.
Agreed but most people are better off doing inclined bench on the smith machine with 'partial' ROM to really target the pec shelf.Most people doing DB inclined bench rarely use enough weight to be relevant, and they go through such large ROM that they take the tension off the pec. Unironically this exercise is 8/10 or higher difficulty to do correctly.
You should have the bench at 30 degrees, not 45Also don't arch your back
>>77010393Nobody cares about your incline numberEveryone cares about flat bench, it’s a benchmark for a reasonBench press is still the king
It's fun, it still develops your chest, and I'm not a looksmaxxing pansy. Are those reasons good enough for you
>>77010461Nobody cares about your bench number besides fellow gay faggots at the gym either. Incline works. Flat is fucking useless.
>>77010464Post your incline weight ;)
>>77010469I don't have to do anything. Certainly nothing to prove to some random nigger on 4chan.
>>77010473What’s your incline though bro? It’s the one that matters
>>77010393I autistically spammed incline db bench for months and then i gave flat a chance. It totally mogged my whole chest. Incline is based too and you should do both
>>77010457I tell youre mom to bend over 30 degrees and she arches her back. She loves it
>>77010393The real redpill is full body workouts and real sports instead of focusing solely on pecs to make it look like you have tits like a woman, all to impress the faggot judges in a bodybuilding competition.>"I don't do bodybuildi--"Then you over inflate your tits for nothing lmao. The /fit/ tranny pipeline is real.
>>77010393You can do both, you jackass. I do flat BB bench on Monday for strength and incline DB bench on Friday for size.
>>77010393You can prefer incline over flat, but db incline is absolute cancer. It is by far the worst db press to set up, unless you're doing bitch weight like OP. I just do barbell.
>>77010393Not to mention you need to ask a bro to put his nuts in your face to do it safelyPeople will always care about flat bench as long as it's used in competitions. And it's the kind of exercise that is well known to normies. Iconic if you will. But there are better chest builders
>>77011156DB Incline is the best Chest exercise. There is something wrong with you.
>>77010461If you can incline alot you can do even more when you decide to max Flat. Incline improves your flat while flat will not improve your incline. Kinda like how doing Squats only will improve your deadlift but deadlifts only won't improve your squat
>>77010393I use the incline when the flat benches are all occupied.
>>77010461>caring about big numbers and not aestheticsreminder that unless you are getting paid a living wage as an influencer or winning prize money in a strongman competition: lifting for max numbers while looking like bastion booger is a literal waste of energy and ultimately equates to you just being a fat retard
>>77010393>do flat barbell bench once a week>do DB incline three times a weekProblem?
>>77010469>>77010490got his bitch ass
>>77011280see >>77011271You're both low IQ. And that's very good. You make it easier for everyone else.
>>77010461It's literally not a benchmark for a reason. It's a "benchmark" because when we were retarded in highschool it was the big barbell lift because no one wanted to squat or deadlift, and because everyone wants a big chest. Unless youre a powerlifter there's no reason to give a shit or do flat bench.
>>77010393Chest may be my best bodypart. Flat bench has developed and hypertrophied my pecs evenly, including upper pecs. I dont do inclies, just flat. 1 RM PR in competition was 375. The other day I hit a smooth and easy 315 x 5. I dont have good arms, but have a good chest. Flat bench is all you need
Will focusing on incline still make my flat stronger?
>>77012124getting stronger will make you stronger, yes.
>>77012124Focusing on flat bp will make your flat bp stronger.Op is a dyel, that’s why he is afraid to reveal his incline weight
>>77010393Incline doesn't strengthen mid and lower chest as good as flat does. You need to do both versions for balanced chest development.
>>77011489You got completely outed for being a retarded dyel. Stop posting you shameless faggot.
>>77010393What does it mean if my flat bench is significantly worse than my incline?
>>77012335>>77012149100lbs DBs for 5 sets of 8-12Now stop spamming you mentally ill pajeet.
>>77012445>100lbs DBs for 5 sets of 8-12Ahahha kekkarroo even worse than i expected Every incline, dumbbell presser is a dyel that failed bench
>>77012469The only thing you ever lift is your skinnyfat ass to eat more curry and stink up every place you're in.
>>77012530lmao ur so mad
>>77010426zoomers go quiet when they read thisthey know it's true
>>77012535I've been here longer than you, you low IQ reddit tourist.
>>77012537>insta replystop crying baby
>>77012537you’ve been here for so long and still lift such pathetic weights? LmaaaoooTalking about a self-own100lbs fucking dumbbells kekkaroo
>>77012544>8 repslol
>>77012544>>77012549You don't know anything about actual training. And you're probably obese thinking you're a powerlifter. I won't even bother wasting any more of my time on genetic trash like you.
>>77012549Lol indeedImaging being on this board for YEARS and still db pressing 100lbs x 8, not even close to 3pl bench equivalent Either extremely shitty genetics or dicking around in gym
>>77010393Whats Dr Mike Israetel take on this?
>>77012553>everyone stronger than me is fatMust be number one cope these days
>>77012553should have played sports in your youth and as an adultstay small, champ
TIL incline pressing the 100s for reps is weak. fascinating stuff
>>77012594Depends; are you in high school or have you been TRAINING for 15 years?
>>77012594It’s equal significantly below 3pl flat bench and the dude spent years on this board and lifting just to still do sub-advanced lifts kek
>>77012599>>77012605if he can actually incline press the hundreds for 5x12 he can almost certainly bench 3pl8, or could with like 3 weeks of focusing on flat bench
>>77012608>5x12he can't
>>77012143Will improving my squat make my bench higher? Stronger makes you stronger, smart ass.
>>77012673it do tho
>>77010393Should you use different types of bench press?
>>77010431>muh enough weightwhy are powertards like thisyou replace barbells with dumbbells exactly so you're not egolifting and eventually snapping your shithypertrophy is low weight high volume, nobody gives a shit about your 50kg db incline press, may as well go back to barbells at this point
>>77012581>long rant tiptoeing around the subject to stretch out the runtime but you listen anyway because of his soothing voice
>>77010426/fit/ hates dumbbells because it's easy to injure yourself if you don't know how to lift properlybarbell is stable enough to be semi-retard proof and machines are literally designed from the ground up to be retard proof>>77010457try using dumbbells on the 60 degree incline with a huge back arch and tucked shoulder bladesthat shit absolutely slams my upper chest30 and 45 degrees is admittedly much better for full pec activation, but 60 degrees with a big arch is absolutely god tier for hitting the upper pec
>>77013147Yeah, just waste your time mate. Incline and Flies are better than Flat Bench, which is useless for the looks.
>>77012741>why are powertards like thisThey don't know how to do anything but strength train, so they're rightfully recognizing that a weight is bitch tier for anyone who has been strength training for any extended period of time.Just think of it like this. Someone who lifts like a bodybuilder can bias the barbell bench press in such a way that his pecs get 55-60% of the load whereas the typical powershitter is going to have a relatively balanced 33:33:33 ratio for his pecs, triceps, and delts when benching. This means a bodybuilder benching 225lbs would get a decent 125-135lbs of resistance directly on his pecs, but a powershitter would only be getting a measly 75lbs. The powershitter would need to be benching somewhere between 375lbs and 410lbs if he wanted to match the bodybuilder's 125-135lbs of resistance on his pecs. Both sides of the shit flinging are usually ignorant of this sort of thing, but only one side is focused on the amount of weight being lifted.
>>77013151Because he's a FAGGOT with nothing better to do
>>77013161You watch those nature documentaries on the cable? You see the one about lions? You got this lion. He's the king of the jungle, huge mane out to here. He's laying under a tree, in the middle of Africa. He's so big, it's so hot. He doesn't want to move. Now the little lions come, they start messing with him. Biting his tail, biting his ears. He doesn't do anything. The lioness, she starts messing with him. Coming over, making trouble. Still nothing. Now the other animals, they notice this. They start to move in. The jackals; hyenas. They're barking at him, laughing at him. They nip his toes, and eat the food that's in his domain. They do this, then they get closer and closer, bolder and bolder. Till one day, that lion gets up and tears the shit out of everybody. Runs like the wind, eats everything in his path. Cause every once in a while, the lion has to show the jackals, who he is.
>>77013178All I got from your story is that I want to pin down a 400lb lioness and pound that pussy into submission, I don't really care about whatever else you wrote.
>>77010461post bitch tits or gtfokek
I just hit dips. Fuck bench altogether.
ohp > bp
>>77010393Incline is gay. OHP and decline.>>77010426Also this.
>>77015192>>77015201>>77015254
>>77010426Dumbbells are the best. I haven't benched with a bar in years
>>77013178Lee Priest's powerlifting days were wild
>>77015192I want to do this but can't even do a single dip how do I get started? t. dyel who doesn't own a bench at home but has dip bars
>>77016427just do negatives until you can do a full dip
>>77010426>>77010393Kek post s/b/d 1 rep maxes lmaooooYou want to recruit as much pec as possible I'm not saying at an advanced body building level that you should ignore incline, but until you have a certain amount of pectoral built, flat will always be the superior movement, yes barbellOnly retards injure themselves barbell benching like you had pain forever and never adjusted form? Like what???
>>77016466that's easy! ty friend will do. doms city is in my future
>>77010393I like reverse grip barbell flat and then db incline
>>77010967bro are you the bizzaro version of me? I do incline dumbell press monday and flat barbell press friday
>>77010393Mentzer spoke of this
>>77010393>swapped from flat barbell to incline dumbbell for a few weeks>decided to do some flat bench because the dumbbell benches always taken by curlbros>struggle to keep the bar from traveling over my head as my muscles are now used to incline>it was so bad I thought the bench was tilted down towards my head
bp bros use the safeties if you got themdon't ACK!! yourself
>>77010426the problem with dumbbells is at some point you'll need a spotter to get them up
>>77017560This and after 50kg dumbbells the next weight is 55kg, so you have to overload by 10kg when increasing weight. Some shittier gyms don't even have 55kgs and jump straight to 60Meanwhile with barbell you can overload however small you want, especially with microplates
>>77012581>biiiiig super mega stretch>ultra maximum range of motion >slooooow controlled eccentric >presses baby weights 15 rir with a massive arch>physique is shit
>>77013159One in ten male powershitters can bench press 410. Probably not even that, honestly
>>77017588>microplatesGod you guys are nerdy. Your strength fluctuates randomly more than microplates weigh, just do another rep for pete's sake.
>>77011708>Unless youre a powerlifterapplies for the other lifts too, but /fit/ is stuck in the SS era
>>77011208Like he said, it's cumbersome to setup and the risk of injury is higher, though with barbells it's also harder to fail safely. Flat is definitely a safer exercise
>>77019758>with barbells it's also harder to fail safelyWhat? Just have safeties. With them the only way you can hurt yourself is if you're doing suicide grip and it falls down fast.Flat bench with safeties is as safe as machines
>>77010426I felt the same way until I started needing to press 100+ lb in each hand. It's such a fucking pain setting DBs up for bench that way, barbell is a dream by comparison.
>>77013134>/fit/ hates dumbbells because it's easy to injure yourself if you don't know how to lift properlyIs it really? I've heard about a ton of injuries and shoulder issues from bar, but never heard anything about injuries from DB
>>77019943How many people even db press any serious weight?(140lbs+)
>>77019624I was for a time. It's a good noob program to run for maybe 6 months to year but then you need to move on, many never move on.
>>77019956Why do you care about what "serious weight" is? If the weight puts a proper load on the muscle to achieve an effective set, then it's as serious as it needs to be. Who cares about people with fragile ego's like you?
>>77019975Because strength = size, simple as. And if you’re doing a dyel weight you aren’t gonna injure yourself.This dude >>77012445 apparently trains for many years and still does pathetic 100lbs dbs, of course you aren’t gonna injure yourself with that
>>77019984There are other exercises besides Incline you low IQ nigger. And not everyone wants to have big boobs for their boyfriend.
>>77020060>but i actually don’t wanna be strong and big!!!Kek thermonuclear cope
