Why do some women get hit hard by steroid side-effects while others have essentially no side-effects other than getting jacked? Does it depend on what they take? Is it genetic? Some seem to get super manly while not even managing to put on nearly as much muscle as others that look perfectly normal. I guess it could also be dosages, but if that's the case then how do some women or coaches fuck it up so badly?
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>>77025799She looks disgusting
>>77025807>>77025814Fine if you think so but I'm legitimately asking the question. I think she looks great facially.
>>77025857I have horrendous standards but she does look a tad bit too manly. Like crossing the line but not by too much.
>>77025860Well here's someone who (imo) got hit way worse by the side-effects. What causes this disparity?
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>>77025799She weighs maybe 130-140. With extremely favorable downlighting you think she’s turbo jacked. She probably runs light 10-20mg of var and has a locked in diet. In person she will look tiny. But
>>77025799>>77025814>>77025860many better examples
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>>77025907she actually talked about this. iirc she believes she keeps her feminine features because she off-cycles.
>>77025917>>77025907>>77025870>>77025799If you're attracted to that you're unironically gay
>>77025917I hate this swedish bloatface midget
>>77025889Thanks for the breakdown. So it's mostly angles and lighting then? Their results don't look bad despite that, does 10-20mg really do all of that? Why do people take more? Would slow-rolling something light like that provide similar gains for a man without adverse effects in theory?>>77025920Link? Does she talk about what she cycled?
>>77025889That’s what a lot of these people don’t understand. Most of these female bodybuilders aren’t very tall and as a result look really tiny in person. I’ve met several. If you look at the taller ones, like Maria Wattel, or Shawn Tan, they look way more stretched-out and less outright bulky. They’re still big, of course, but you can never trust the camera.
>>77025807I dont understand why people dont get them removedIt literally takes like 5 minutes at a dermatologist
>>77026607No, 30mg of var is a very light dose for guys. You could get away with dose like that on a cruise after you finished a cut just for a veiny look but expecting alot of results in a muscle building phase ain't happening. >inb4 larping accusationsI'm selling to a couple big bootie baddies tonight and have sold var to girls before. They get alot more out of a low dose than men. Sweet spot seems to be 10-20mg for them at least.>>77026806Women in general are extremely good at angles and photos, even the biggest one i've met is maybe 155 tops, but absolutely bone lean at like 7% bf. Thing is she took alot harder anabolics and now sounds like a man. I don't see the appeal.
>>77025857OP's girl looks angelic, facially. Fine, she's muscular, so if you dont like that I get it. But her face is very femine - lean but feminine.Why somne women dont get manly is down to dosages and geentics. The more you take, the greater the chance. But at the end of the day, each body is going to respond differently.I have blasted shit tons of all sorts of gear and never had any sort of gyno symptoms, or boner problems. I also didnt grwo a masaive amount of muscle, but fear I gave myself left ventricle hypertophy (trying to reverse it now). Everyones different and becaue our "doctors" are retarded, its been left to the bros to figure this shit out. And although we hve experience, we completely lack knowledge.The best anyone can do is to shrug and say "genetics." And its true. Imprecise, but true.
>>77027140>left ventricle hypertophy (trying to reverse it now). how?
>>77026826They do look good on very specific spots like cleavage and midriff on certain body types and on certain skin tones so like 1% of the time
>>77025799>Be me>At gym awhile back>New QT starts coming in>Can't be older than 21, has local uni sticker on her canteen>Talk to her, Gymnast>We talk every now and again>Fast forward a year later>Notice her voice is deeper>See her without a hoodie>Now has visibly capped delts>She shreds for a comp>Voice now cracking every few syllables when we talk>Talk to her again about a month later>Now growing visible brown moustache hairs at the corner of her mouth>Face covered in freshly matured white hairs that gleam when the light hits them>Break down and call her out, point out all the effects>She laughs it off, says she has a good coach and she doesn't have that one "major problem" down there>She won't even look my way now but when I overhear her talking her voice is now a full octave deeper than it was a year ago>TRT dad was complaining to me in the locker room about her, that she hasn't gotten above 8th place in any shows and just found a new coach and she was ready to go "hard"FtM troon HRT is only 60mg androgens a week, the basic bitch var starter pack for girls is 10, that's 70, BUT WAIT, var is 4-7x more androgenic than test so these girls, in 8 weeks, could be getting almost a ***year*** of permanent masculinization.Guys I hate fitness culture, but especially mind broken zoom-zooms and the roider epidemic, we gotta put a stop to this somehow. Why the fuck are college age girls and even teenagers doing var/primo cycles? I know most of them were sexually abused, and a lot of trainers like to pick out the broken girls and groom and molest them but come the fuck on.
>>77027668I remember back in the early 2010's it was estimated that 10% of the US had used PEDs at some point. I would guess that it's more like 30% now. Almost every high school growing up had a few kids on something, usually with parental support to go for sportsball scholarships. I'm sure more kids are using now; ALL drugs are seeing more usage now, but I suspect that social media is making the increase look bigger than it is. The real growth in steroid usage is adults and women. TRT is EVERYWHERE, they put you on it first chance they get, it's a lifelong profit channel for pharma and because it comes from the doctor users cope that it is good for them and has no downsides and isn't "cheating". Women are eager to dive into steroid use for a myriad of reasons, not the least of which being their hypercompetitive social media bullshit and need for validation.It's like weed - there's no upside, it's just the beginning of a terrible addiction which will decrease the quality of your life, and it's only a question of how deep you end up diving into it. Users will cope that it's not an addiction and there's no consequence for how *they* use it, to their dying breath. This is why libertarian arguments fall apart - "my body my choice" doesn't work with addictive substances. The brain and its physiology can't make rational decisions about compounds that make it feel good despite damaging the body.Ultimately it's just another tool to sicken and profit off of the underclass. And if it fucks up the gene pool along the way all the better.
>>77027766Nice, checkedYeah I still remember dudes posting moose but also sophie avrebrink and ekaterina kuznetsova and natasha aughey here back in 2013 and thinking "wow these girls are RIPPED without looking like men! They must be working very hard" Then seeing pics of them all just 4 years later and they all have these terrible man faces and are now all essentially demi-men, it's a terrible curse.Hannah Hussein here was sexually abused multiple times growing up and got groomed by a trainer and got fucked up and now can only do OF to make a living but at the very least she's making YT vids about her story and trying to warn girls the fuck off from roids. I think she wants to compete naturally now but she mentions the roid pumps and psychology was very addicting and that'll be a tough line to toe.
>>77027786What I find most shocking is that most people no longer have any idea what a natural fit body even looks like. They truly believe that their favorite instagram model or professional athlete just lifts extra hard or something. More than ignorance, they want to believe the lie. There is no critical part of the brain. It's a big part of how the body dysmorphia takes root in the first place.
>>77027668College girl discusses her clit with you. Complain about her to some old guy lol. There is no hope for the future
Makeup is magic and the smart ones don't use a lot of heavy androgens. Low dose high anabolic roids will blow a chick up no problem. The issues come up if they're lazy or want to go super huge then it's unavoidable. Also the Crossfit culture of constantly overtraining and insisting on not wearing clothes has a big impact
>>77025807>>77026826>>77027293idk i think hers is cute imo
>>77027285off gear. lifting without valsalva. zone 2 cardio. Dosing CoQ10. Dropping bodyweight. Watching Blood Pressure.
>>77028281no, the old guy is a former competitor and now on TRT, huge, laments the zoom-zooms getting fucked up on androgens with me regularly and was naming off the kids and the changes and their shit physiques and she happened to be one of them.
>>77025799Next month, it will be a decade since I've even kissed a foid (and I'm not into men at all).Your pic shouldn't turn me on, but I'm down so bad that it really does.
>>77025924Low T
>>77027140>OP's girl looks angelic, facially. Fine, she's muscular, so if you dont like that I get it. But her face is very femine - lean but feminine.Seriously. It's fine if you don't like the muscles but facially she's a fucking supermodel. Post just her face and people would get mad at you for posting coomerbait.
>>77025799IMO it’s a matter of dosage, amount of time (they’ll masculinize over a long enough time period), and whether they’re bulking and cutting (causing them to permanently lose facial fat)
>>77031661Shes very pretty. Im white, 6'5" blond hair, blue eyes, chad light. Maybe a 7-8 facially. Ive never had a girl who looked close to this good. And Im an old fag.
>>77031702>permanently lose facial fatIs this a real thing? I've never heard of permanently losing any sort of fat anywhere without surgery.
>>77031661Looks like a hideous tranny>>77032007It's over for yoy
>>77025920>she keeps her feminine features???
>>77030954Yes you have. If you had high T you would be attracted to feminine women, you retarded fucking cretin fag.
>>77033106It's not real, but it's a common cope amongst varbies and coaches. It's all bone development. Jordynne Grace is a great example of getting fucked with maxillar/mandibular development, it's like her entire skull is jutting outwards in the way a sheboon's would.
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>>77025799It's genetic, some females have more male-like androgen receptors thus they respond to roids better. Same reason some roidtrannies do not grow as well as others.
>>77025907Protein braps
>>77034125The crazy part is that she looked okay when she was roiding the hardest. Wonder what happened.
>>77037718It caught up with her, that or when the female fat distribution came back, it exagerrated the now-masculinzied features. There's a local varbie I see on dating apps that had that happen, she deflated but her face looks even worse now that she's gained fat mass.
>>77027766>I remember back in the early 2010's it was estimated that 10% of the US had used PEDs at some point. I would guess that it's more like 30% nowHaha, jesus christ I share this board with some legitimate retards
>>77037732>when the female fat distribution came back, it exagerrated the now-masculinzied features.it was probably this one thinking about it. When she looked better she had way more muscle mass but was also way harder. WWE wanted less muscle and more fat and it probably filled out her face in a less than flattering fashion.
>>77025799They all end up looking like disgusting trannies like pic
>>77025807That's a human woman, anonThat's not even what a mole looks like
>>77031661Show some before pictures.
Hypothetically, how much and how long of what would I need to spike my wife's coffee with to get her to lose a few pounds and grow her clit just a teensy bit? She's maybe 15lbs overweight, and she has the smallest clit in the history of all clits.
