>>77029207
yes

>>77029207
>Grey market GLP-1s
why though??

official wegovy is only like 150€/month by now
and most european health insurances cover it anyway
just find a willing doctor

>Is that really all it takes to be cured from food addiction?
yes
except
>Almost sounds too good to be true
it is

because you're only "temporarily" cured
many people gain weight again once they stop taking
side effects are also non-negligible (albeit usually not severe)

you actually have to change your diet as well

I'm on 10mg of tirzepatide and barely feel anything. (Before you ask, it's official pharma so I know its a real product)

If 15mg is still not doing shit should I get some retatrutide and stack both or go above 15mg of tirz?

its really hard to order it from china. They don't even have websites you have to order from social media shit and you have to use crypto which is its own can of worms.

>>77029246
How old is it? The shit degrades really fast even in your fridge. You might be holding it too long before injecting it and that ruins the effectiveness

>>77029207
Yes.
Just go to meso and buy from the Chinese direct and not some faggot reseller. You'll save immense amounts of money.
>>77029235
If you're a yank it's 1k and American insurance won't cover it for weight loss.

>>77029207
>Is that really all it takes to be cured from food addiction?
Yea
You start to hate food
It's really that simple
I'm talking from experience
Did 9 weeks of tirzepatide and got tired of not wanting to eat at all. Lost, like, 13 kg (not just fat, at the end I was barely eating and started to lose muscle as well)

>>77029316
>If you're a yank it's 1k
kek
that's actually so much more expensive, that it'd almost make sense to move...
>and American insurance won't cover it for weight loss.
do they collude with snack & fast food companies?

if you're obese, taking GLP-1 for weight loss has a pretty well researched risk-benefits balance for patients and cost-savings balance for insurers
and it's very positive, so there is little reason not to take / prescribe it
so it doesn't make sense that they don't pay for it

>>77029235
And where do you live exactly, big boy?

>>77029306
Its mounjaro, the pens are delivered cold and I use them within 21 days (official guidance is they last 30 days at room temp) so that's definitely not the issue

I'm thinking of trying 7.4mg of semaglutide instead since it was recently approved in the UK (can get it from an official source instead of having to deal with vials and crap)


>>77029329
Lol I wish this was my experience. I'm not giving up though I'll keep increasing dose until it helps me lose weight

I get the worst of both worlds with GLPs where eating protein feels impossible but I could still eat potato chips all day if I allowed myself

>>77029347
have you considered eating less?

>>77029207
what idd this cost u i got my shit from biolabs when i used it in october and it was like over 200 bucks
but it worked, it got me igoing in the right direction and it's what i need at the time. i used it for one month and changed everything, never looked back

>>77029316
Is there an American source there that ships to Canada?

>>77029316
Lilly Direct has Zepbound (Tirzepatide) for 299 a month without insurance
It’s expensive but not that expensive

>>77029823
it becomes reasonable when fat people actually track their food purchases

>>77029235
>>Grey market GLP-1s
>why though??>official wegovy is only >like 150€/month by now
>and most european health insurances >cover it anyway
>just find a willing doctor
Or hear me out, you live in an european shithole pretending to be a western country l, where doctors milk you or want you fuck off, so you pay the equivalent of fifty (50) dollars per month, get the same exact substance from a recommended shop, microdose it so it lasts you 2 months and still get results
.t did exactly that for like 8 months and never felt better, finally started losing weight in a normal pace like a normal person despite hormonal issues and was pre-diabetic before i started. Obviously ymmv, i got lucky by being sensitive enough to glp-1

>>77029368
Protein shakes and other protein liquids helped in my case

>>77029306
>The shit degrades really fast even in your fridge
False. I'm currently using months old tirz vials and it works just as well as when I first bought it. It should remain effective until exp date or longer as long as you keep it between 2 and 8 celsius.

If your dose is no longer effective you should bump it. I bumped from 2.5 to 4 after 2 months, then 4, now 5, and I'm still losing weight.

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>take retarduride
>doesn't make me less retarded
wtf

>>77029899
bro it makes you MORE retarded.
>oh no

>>77029899
It should actually do that if you have blood sugar issues, because high blood sugar destroys your brain

>>77029332
>kek
>that's actually so much more expensive, that it'd almost make sense to move...
>do they collude with snack & fast food companies?
American insurance is privatized which means that price variation is all over the place, all risk pools are smaller, and collective bargaining is nonexistent.

This incentivizes them to pay out for as few things as possible.

They also use slimy contracting language to deny claims or make it look like they cover more than they do. I went to a shrink that said they took my insurance and billed me appropriately, only for it turn out that my insurance was "approving" my claims by making me pay for all of them on their own website rather than on the doctor's website. Now I owe them $4,000.

There's a reason why everyone laughed and looked the other way when Luigi blew that healthcare CEO's head off. Everyone has a story of themselves or a relative getting turned down for an important or life-saving procedure by an American healthcare provider, even if they don't know it yet. The only thing keeping people from dying en-masse in the US is the fact that it's illegal to turn someone away from the ER if they can't pay for a procedure.

You'll end up in crushing debt for life obviously, but at least you'll be alive.

>>77029911
You guys really need to vote a socialist into office for at least 2 terms so you can establish a proper public health system. I'm brazilian and even we have pretty good public system, my mom had a kidney transplant through it many years ago and she's doing great. I cut my hand badly not long ago and got treated without spending a cent.
When you don't have greedy middlemen leeching off the system it's amazing what you can do with little money.

>>77029911
>American insurance is privatized
>incentivizes them to pay out for as few things as possible
it's not like someone is stopping you from making a private non-profit insurance though

>>77029870
>hormonal issue
Stop lying to yourself. Your problem is lack of willpower, not a hormonal issue.

where can i buy any of this

>nebulous chinese knock off market

Enjoy your pancreitis OP

>>77030035
>it's not like someone is stopping you from making a private non-profit insurance though
The startup capital needed for that would be immense, and nobody would be willing to fund it except maybe as a tax deductible donation. It's doable in theory but nobody with the funds needed to pull it off are interested.

Closest thing to it is Mark Cuban with CostPlus Drugs, which is pretty based of him honestly.

>>77029615
There's a Chinese source with a Canadian warehouse. Their minimum order quantity for reta is high but it gets you a 2-3 year supply. Entry price for tirz is low. Look for the source thread with the most replies
>>77030191
A resource is listed within the first 10 posts. If you can't even take the time to read or use google gray might not be for you. Please use the peptide calculator and recheck at least 5 times

i bought 10 15mg vials of tirz from a sketchy chinese vendor i found on a forum. hopefully i dont get aids

>>77030767
>gets you a 2-3 year supply

Wouldn't it expire before then?

>>77030885
No. Just keep unreconstituted vials in the freezer in an insulated thermos. Different storage methods have benn tested by multiple pep discords,.Might lose 5% potency after 3 years.

>>77029207
>gives you uncontrollable diarrhea
i think i'll just fast

>>77029235
>many people gain weight again once they stop taking
DON'T STOP TAKING IT THEN! KEEP TAKING IT FOREVER LIKE ALL OTHER MEDICATIONS!

>>77031578
>DON'T STOP TAKING IT THEN
that's a stupid idea
a) needlessly expensive
b) not tested for indefinite use

and most likely the risk profile shifts

just because some medication is safe or worth it to take for a year
doesn't mean it's good for the rest of your life
and currently there is no reasonable data for this

also it's really easy to just change your habits in the time you're taking it
if you can't manage
you likely deserve what's coming for you anyway, so might just take it

>>77029823
$299 is about what I pay for about six months of reta.

>>77031706
Semaglutide has been tested long term, what's the issue?

>its really easy to just change your habits

Not for some of us. I'll take high dose of GLP1s for life no matter any risks. And if they dont work I'll actually start abusing shit like meth, adderall and opiates for appetite suppression. My eating addiction is atrocious and I'm fast tracked to obesity if I dont get control.

I got prescribed Ozempic and lost 27lbs my first month but it was from being nausious 24/7 and barely eating during that time. I didn't do any cardio though, I did weight training 2 days a week but they weren't very productive work outs.


The most weight I've ever lost not using a GLP-1 was 25lbs in 1 month but I was doing cardio every day and weight training 3x a week and watching what I ate.

So what this made me realize was if I really wanted to, I could lose almost the same amount of weight without the GLP-1.

Anyways my doctor took me off Ozempic because my weight loss was stalling and my A1C was gradually getting higher which was not good.

He put me on Mounjaro (tirzepatide) and I've been on that for a few months. I'll be honest, half the time I do not feel any of the side effects (i.e., nauseous, no appetite) but occasionally I'll take a shot and I do feel it.

I get prescribed a box of 4 pens for each month but I'm really bad at taking the shot because, like I said, there will be weeks I won't even feel the effects of it working.

I know the protocol is to up the dose but that's not something I want to do. At this point I don't take my shots anymore UNLESS I fall off my diet hard and need help getting back on it.

For example, after Thanksgiving, I fell off my diet, gained about 8lbs from Thanksgiving to New Years. I decided I wanted to get back on track so I took a shot of my Mounjaro and so far I've transitioned well into my diet and I don't feel like I need the Mounjaro anymore. It did its job by allowing me to get through the first week of dieting which for me is the hardest because my cravings and sugar withdrawals are something I have a hard time fighting.

So while I still get prescribed Mounjaro and I still pick it up every month, I do not use it like it should be used. I only use it as a "kickstart" or a way to get back on my diet if I fall off it.

>>77031706
2 more weeks until the devastating side effects of a drug class in use since 2005 will precipitously appear

>>77033625
It'll happen at the same time as the Great Reset from the covid vaccine and then we GLP1 chads will have the last laugh because minus times minus equals plus.

>>77031146
Never happened to me and I've been taking it for 3 months.

>>77032609
>25lbs in 1 month
How the fuck is that even possible

>>77034117
he probably weighed 500lbs to begin with. I lost 60 pounds over a year on tirz. Started weight was 235lbs.

>>77029947
we need a national socialist but thats gonna take a while

>>77034117
I was 325lbs when I lost the 25lbs in 1 month through just diet and exercise alone

I was 354lbs when I lost the 27lbs in 1 month on Ozempic

So actually, me losing 25lbs in 1 month without Ozempic was more impressive than losing 27lbs in 1 month at 354lbs on Ozempic.

Being on a GLP-1 is exactly like what being on a keto diet (one that doesn't contain a bunch of keto junk food) feels like. You don't really have an appetite, you don't have any cravings at all, you might not even feel like eating because the food you're able to eat on a REAL keto diet is not very exciting.


That's what it feels like to be on a GLP-1, except you can eat the bullshit foods you want and you don't get the food noise and cravings that come from eating bullshit foods like pizza and ice cream.

I've dropped around 30kg in 5 months from Reta + Intermittent fasting. It's not magic, since you still have to take care to not eat like garbage and actually have nutritious meals, but it definitely helps stave off cravings and hunger. I started slowly with 0.5mg-1mg weekly and increased my dose to 1mg every month or when I started to feel my cravings come back.
Mentally it's taken a lot of stress off my mind, since I don't have the urge to eat besides my usual meals or if I do, I don't really crave any calorie dense foods like before.
My advice would be to mix it with a good diet and exercise routine to not lose as much muscle mass and actually make your weight loss quicker.
I'm also dosing GHK-CU + BPC since I've read it helps with skin elasticity, and I want to minimize the amount of loose skin once I reach my goal.
>But it only works temporarily
Same as every other weight loss method. There's no way to lose weight and return to your pre weight-loss habits without gaining weight again. But that doesn't mean you have to take GLPs forever. I can't vouch for this personally, but my plan is to reduce my doses to the point where I can maintain my weight with bi-weekly or monthly doses only, and then try to go without it for more extended periods of time. Not a bad idea to keep a vial or two at hand just in case. It definitely keeps way longer that what pharma says it does based on a few studies I've seen.
If you're struggling with weight-loss I definitely think people should give it a try.

I'll chicken out and take reta 0.5mg - 1mg at a relatively normal 18% fat physique because I'm a fucking idiot that can't do a proper cut
I stay indefinitely at ~18% no problem, but 1 or 2 weeks after I start a cut I give in to the unbearable urge to eat anything all the time

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>>77029207
>order some vial from china
>inject yourself

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>>77029207
Yes, its incredibly cheap

>>77029235
we don't do that here in germany

Damn, even if you buy from domestic resellers (for convenience/quality guarantee/whatever), it's STILL cheaper than pharma (unless you have some discount promo code but those are usually one-time).

>>77029235
>you actually have to change your diet as well
not shit retard
Because of how glp1s work, you're forced to eat a better diet basically. I literally cannot stand eating more than 2 muffins anymore and its been months since I've been on tirz. It literally completely changed my preferences for food

anyone have a half decent eu reta source? fucking polish keep ripping me off

>>77030042
Not sure what is the point of this original comment. I have a literal muh thyroid problem and other resulting organ issues that needs to be medicated so they dont get worse. I wasnt referring to the capability of losing weight in a certain timespan if i try, but the quality of it and overall wellbeing during the process and there is a huge difference with and without glp-1.

I've been on semaglutide for months now, I'm on 2.4mg now. It doesn't do shit besides make me constipated and gassy.
I can eat whatever I want, I don't feel "full" after a normal meal like everyone else apparently. It's so fucking annoying, I hate my life.

>>77038828
try tirze

>>77038833
Tirzepatide is only available as Mounjaro in my shitty country and it's fucking expensive, I mean like 550 usd for a single month

>>77038836
check glp1 forum vendors - I personally use ERP they ship globally but they use bitcoin for payment, not sure if they take other options

>>77038848
I would try but I don't really want to get in trouble with customs

>>77038865
kek how does it feel living in fear all your life

>take the lowest dose of tirzepatide for two weeks
>resting heart rate shoots up 15-20 bpm
>apparently this takes six months to even start fixing itself

Thanks, I hate it

>>77029207
Easier to just stop eating plants

>>77029207
No such thing as too good to be true. Sometimes things are just outright good or bad. That's the reason why we no longer live in shitty ass caves.