where do you guys get your drive to stay consistent? as much as its much easier for me to constantly blame things on others, my biggest pitfall is simply not willing to make an effort and just jerk off my life away, i know its not a healthy way of living but i feel like nothing would ever convice me to change, what made you wanna change?
Being forced out of my comfort zone. Humans will almost always take the path of least resistance.I also live in a slightly hostile environment and projecting power is a detterrent to aggression. People will usually take the path of least resistence. Unless you have learned the hard way what weakness will get you in this work and you need to attain strength.Even "christians" distain weakness when the meek supposedly inherit the erf
>>77038954There is a good chance I have some form of OCD mixed with lifelong body dysmorphia (I look good, but never enough). I will drive through a blizzard to get half a decent workout in. I also have a strong desire to sleep with women I find attractive and am too autistic to be entertained by girls I'm not attracted to which means I need to be sure to stay on top of things.
>>77038964unfortunetly iv never had that scenario, im a skinny weak faggot and i guess it makes feel people bad enough to stand up for me if something were to happen, but i spend all my time at home so i wouldnt know>>77038968iv never had experiences with women, and i dont really feel anything about that, i like them, most direct interactions with them have been pretty nice and sweet, but iv never tried to go for a girl, to be honest iv never felt thatttt into women in general, maybe im a faggot i dont know, like i said i spend most of my time at home jerking off or playing video games so i dont have a big enough sample to really base my thoughs on
>>77038997Put yourself out of your comfort zone on purposeUnless you are very lucky life might get hard later and you wont be prepared. Beat the shit out of alloys to make tough steel. Diamonds are formed under oressure as gay and cheesey as that sounds
I just do it man. Your mind has the faculty of telling your body what to do on command. Make use of it. Are you retarded or what?
>>77039017diamonds just kinda exist like that tho but i get your point, i do think im the kinda person that needs something shitty to happen to them to change, not to paint the picture that i live some luxurious life, i just kinda do nothing, i help others when i can and slouch around at home, main thing thats been actively getting me to try and do stuff is my receding hairline, but i feel like it only amplifies the shame of how i look and in tern staying more at home, got a doctors appointment for it tho
>>77039030i kinda am because of that, im not clueless to my problems, i know what they are, i know where their sourced from, but i just dont feel like it, i guess because fundementally, im alive and can do most basic human actions, so in my head i dont see any reason to change even tho theres alot, is it a retartedly convoluted and faggy way of thought? yeahi guess my biggest fear is truly being fundementally weak willed, doomed to either be a cuck or just kill myself, and to escape that thought i go back to jerking off and playing video games
>>77039031I have been there before too. People need challenges, need their brain to process new environments. As anti social as i am i must admit as a person i do need some human interaction outside of the family for oersonal growth and perspective
>>77038954Start logging religiously. Doesn't matter if it's paper, notes app, or some fancy paid app. The only thing that matters is that you track your progress rep by rep. There's nothing more motivating than trying to beat your own records every single day in the gym.
>>77038954Imagine being so privileged you need to find a drive
>>77039118What's your drive? This may seem unrelated but what do you thonk happens when you die and what is the point if existence?
>>77038954dont think about it. just do
>>77038954there is no magical "drive". you just get up and do it or you don't. It doesn't get easier, this is life, time to grow up.
>>77039138>inb4 replying to medo not. abandon the thread, dont cry about everything. just shut the fuck up and get your life in ordergay boy
>>77039127>What's your drive?The state of being. This body ain't going to keep itself in if I don't take care of it. I also like to eat and not be fat. I also like it when people compliment me on my looks. I also like it when other people are intimidated by me. I also like to do extrenious things (including fucking) and not get winded. The list goes on>What's the point of existence?To exist. It ain't that deep unless the second coming of Jesus the Alien happens and he tells us there's a higher calling or whatever
>>77039152>Based hedonist not thinking deeply about lifeWish it could be me but i gave up living for pleasure and i search for purpose inherent to existence.
>>77039163you sound like a faggot. Get a job.
>>77039174I paint walls rn like $500 for a half days work. Almost done being trained as an electrician. What do you do that brings so much purpose to your life? Not op btw
>>77039180I don't whine about motivation on 4chan with a femboy furry image.
>>77039182No u
>>77038954Hello niglets
>>77038997you sound like you have low T desu. Years of jacking off, eating junk, and not exercising will do that to you. go to a doc and get your levels checked.
>>77039195i dont necessarily eat junk i just kinda dont eat anything
>>77039144eh well i made this thread just to see more perspectives and see if i can find one that can make me change, i guess it makes it kinda worthless if i dont find one that does but its like a mild effort
>>77039218You got to fabricate one. Pretend you're low iq and focus on money and things till you die.
>>77038954>what made you wanna change?I just couldn't live with myself the way I was. And thinking of giving up made it difficult to even sleep. So I just kept trying for it until I found something that works. Ever since then I've been on the same track and improving week by week. My advice; just keep trying for whatever you're aim is. Eventually you will find your own way. You got this.
>>77039163Retard take
>>77039246Once you reach the height of pleasure the only way to go is back down. Happiness is a temporary state of mind is is a byproduct of function, purpose, and yes conflict
>>77039266What's hedonism, anon?
>>77038954you clearly don't want to live that way. as if something greater than you is calling for you to live differently.start therenow think about those people that feel and deeply desire to chop their limbs off. it weights on them, hunts them, feels right to do so, wouldn't want to stay as is despite probably knowing they are being insane. Now know whatever you silly mind thinks means nothing and, for fucked up people, is plain wrong and self destructive almost all the time.know that the more you try, the less you get. so stop forcing, overthinking, controlling. Just let go, exist and do. Never "put in efford". Just try to enjoy the things you are doing naturally, while you do them Because you HAVE TO do them anyways if you want to get where you want. So just start, and enjoy it for what it is giving it your allThen, also, know that things become bad the moment they get in the way of what you truly want. There are no bad things. Jerking off is bad the moment is an escapist fantasy that drains your energy and nutrients to give you a small high and keeps you stuck where you are. If you jack it because you don't get sex or you use it to be happy for 3 seconds and never change, it's bad. Stop jacking it until you enjoy the act itself, rather than trying to replace something you don't get.This is also why media consumption is bad for many. Most don't say "I've made a balance in my head and consuming an art piece is worth the time I'll spend. I want to enjoy art". Most just watch/play stuff for fun or to "relax" (doesn't work. they just distract themselves and enjoy sitting and not thinking as much. the movie or series actually gets in the way of that). In reality, they want to have the adventures, friends, achievements, dedication, love, etc. of the characters. So... don't. Live like you want, don't replace it. Don't replace sex. Have sex. Don't replace love. Love and get love.It's not hard. It's real.Go from there and figure things out on your own
>>77038954Everyone is prone to giving you some fake stoicism shit and that's fine if you can use it, but I'm going to give you some old man wisdom. Exercising makes you feel better. As you age, you'll start to notice that jerking off 24/7 doesn't feel as good, eating like shit makes you feel worse, walking feels good, working out feels good, jogging feels good, eating well feels good. That's it.
>>77039118A lot of people in the first world are like that. Nothing wrong with it but it raises a more complex question than what your ancestors had to focus on. >>77038954Willpower runs out. Make it a habit and make it easier to continue than to stop by creating a system. Put a gym bag in front of your bedroom door. Always drink coffee or preworkout before the gym so you have energy. Routines. After enough time those routines become identical to discipline.
>>77039213this will also give you low T.I would recommend getting on a high protein diet, lift some weights, and do some light cardio work. When you look better, you tend to feel better. You're also probably depressed (could be connected to T) which working out helps with but does not cure. Lifting helped with my anxiety and depression a decent amount though it isn't a cure all.
>>77039385>>77038954To get deeper into this, modern society is optimized for retarded existence. Always happy, always fed, always on dopamine. The fact that you have an idea that this isn't good enough is a good start. But it's not enough. Start with one thing at a time. Don't jork it as often. Don't eat as much fast food and soda. Be comfortable with just sitting and thinking without social media or music. You'll have to relearn these things because you've been so accustomed to modern pleasure. It'll be hard. But you know that your current life is not good enough. So go change it. You're gonna relapse, and that's alright. You just need to get back on the wagon after. You build these things a brick at a time, one decision at a time. Starting now.Journal. Not like obsessively but as a way to hold yourself accountable. What worked today. What do you wish you did? What will you do tomorrow. That stuff. It helps calm you down and reorient yourself. This sounds like fag shit, and it is partly. But it helps.So now go and fucking do it. Stop reading about it and go act. Reading on improvement is a procrastination on it's own. Move away from the starting line
>>77038954best thing i did was join a 6 year bachelors and masters program in physics/compsci, gave me something new to wake up to every day and enough independence to pick which problems i could attack and a variety of methods, as well as a coterie of fellow nicebros andor autistic women who liked the same stuff i did and gave me pressure to do better...ofc ik in north america and all it's big debt to go into but not the case where im from thankfully
>>77039295NTA but that sounds more like epicureanism
>>77038954I walk past a cemetery each morning (weather permitting) knowing that everyone there would do anything to be in my position right now. I owe my life to everyone who put me on this planet and blessed me with the gift of life. Might as well make the most of it.
Going to the gym is the only part of my day that really brings me any pleasure beyond pysical/hedonistic type pleasure. So its not hard to "be consistent" at all.
>>77038954You don't need "drive" asshole. Just do it, that's literally all you have to do.
>>77038954I am consistently inconsistent.My motivation rolls between stuffing myself like a fat hog and purging when I've become too disgusted with what I've done.I suspect my brain chemistry is fucked up and I'll need meds to fix it.
>>77038954writing down my lifts and exercise sessions is what helps keep me consistent. if i see that i worked out three times last week then it makes me want to at least that much this week. so when i'm tired and don't want to do it, i can see where that gap would be in my progress in real time if i decide to skip the workout. i can also see my lifts going up over time and proof that its working is the best motivation.
>>77039399You sound like an intelligent individual, so I'd like your take on my issue.>I am CONSTANTLY going to extremes in EVERYTHINGI'm like the incarnation of a 4chan contrarian. I do everything to the extreme. Either I am eating a perfect diet where I will go months without touching anything enjoyable, or I will engage in all-out binging of every decadent thing imaginable.I'm talking months where I eat boiled meat, vegetables, and some fruit exclusively. Followed by months of dietary anarchy. Just yesterday I made an entire cake, 4000 cals, and ate it within 4 hours. Then washed it down with jello, ice cream, and korean BBQ. These past two weeks I've consumed around 8000 calories a day.And now, I am water fasting. I currently weigh 185 lbs. Two months ago I was 140. 8 months ago I was 205. A year ago I was 128 lbs. Before that? 180. This type of extreme behavior has lasted for literal DECADES. I have gained and lost thousands of lbs.And it's not just diet either. I do this with everything. Nofap is another one. I'll either be a complete monk, not even touching my penis to pee for many months/years. Or I'll be gooning to the most fucked up shit imaginable for hours every day. Even at work. I'm either pulling 70+ hour weeks with overtime, or I'm unemployed.You sound like a /fit/ psychologist anon. Can you explain what the fuck is wrong with me?
>>77039589Simple. You're burning out. You have the initial motivation and willpower to get the ball rolling, but you eventually crash and burn and fail in the long term. This is better than never doing anything at all, but it obviously fails long term and the two extremes pose obvious health risks.You need to be consistent at a sustainable medium. Go 50%. What does that look like for you? Figure that out. And stick to it. You'll be bored and want the dopamine of going at 100%. But you know where that ends up.I think you already knew that, though. You probably just wanted someone to tell you that, which is understandable. Now that you've heard it, go fucking chill out. Sustainably. Like I said, willpower is not infinite if you act this way. Find a medium that lets you cruise without becoming a slob or a manic frenzied individual. I can't help you with the actual action, but go research online what works best for you for the health route. You probably already know what works best, just be honest
>>77039606goddamn it.thanks for the advice
>>77039612It's gonna be hard to break your cycle, but your body will thank you a year from now. If you try this and literally cannot do it because of your brain, go talk to an actual doctor who knows what the fuck he's talking about. That's a last resort, but keep it in your mind, because you're describing what looks like a sort of bipolar mentality. Good luck anon.
>>77039589Pursue extreme poise.Imagine the moderation that eludes you as a tightrope walk and get autistic about balancemaxxxing until you can walk it for a thousand miles with a blindfold on and an apple balanced on your head.
