>BMI 24.6
>visible lat strirations if I flex
>visibly lean, down to less than a quarter inch of belly fat
abs by 160 boys

I hate myself

>>77042965
dont we all

>>77042965
Me too.

>80g carbs on breakfast
>candies
it's over, ketobros.

i hope my stretched obliques will cease to be stretched once i lose the pot belly in 40lbs.
at least i think they're the obliques.

>>77043036
breakfast candy
the west truly has fallen

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I ate 500kcal of porkchops and went over 200kcal my goal, the entire meal should have been 500.

But I can't say no to mama's cooking

>>77042965
I hate yourself too

>>77043043
Doubt you counted the oil and bullshit she cooked it in.

>>77043042
>west
i'm from the east. a thirdie too.

>>77043052
I asked mine to be cooked in the airfryer, and it was still 500kcal

BROS I've made an important discovery, whenever I get upset or angry I turn to drinking and food
But wtf am I supposed to do?

>>77042903
Seen a lot of success from fasting + lifting + running. Down nearly a full suit size from December. Getting a bike on Friday to help with cross training/cardio once the weather clears up. WAGMI boyos

>>77043074
use the anger to power your lifts/running instead.

>>77043074
Go for a run.

>>77043074
turn to drugs, masturbation and an unhealthy obsession with making your lift PR go up instead

>>77043074
Gain apathy

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>>77042903
To any ex-fat: how did you cope once you realized how long the process would actually take?
I’m currently a landwhale, and even after weeks on a borderline starvation diet, I’ve barely made a dent in the total weight I need to lose. I am losing weight, very fast, but the sheer amount of time it’ll take to undo all the weight I gained when I was a fat piece of shit is depressing to think about. It drains all my motivation. I don’t want to go outside, I don’t want to talk to people, and I don’t want to do anything. I just feel disgusting, the amount of time i lost by being fat and the amount of time i will waste before i can be thin again makes me want to kill myself.

>>77043126
The visual improvements are almost immediate and stack up quickly (obviously depending HOW fat you are)

>>77043126
I just started taking reta and I'm having the time of my life

>supersets of ab wheel rollout and lateral raises
>into incline rows and incline presses
I'm gonna be thrashed from the waist up tomorrow lmao

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what are some good apps for tracking intermitent fasting?

>fasted myself down 10 lbs.
I can go back to eating like I usually do tomorrow night but I don't know if I should continue being weight schizo. I have to lose another 20 just be be a healthy weight. I have to be back at my current weight or less in a couple months from now.

>>77043191
>I have to lose another 20 just be be a healthy weight
You answered your own question, keep the cut going. It doesn't have to be fasting, a normal deficit works too.

>>77043184
I like Zero, it has a very sleek UI and also tracks things like fasting streaks/activity/etc. It has a paid version but I don't see the value-add to it.
>>77043191
Just keep fasting to get down that 20. If you're doing ADF and eating at maintenance on your non-fasting days, and assuming you burn 2500kcals/day, 20lbs will take you ((20*3500)/2500)*2 = 28 fasts, or 56 days, so less than two months. You can make that a bit faster with cardio/eating below maintenance on refeed days.

>>77043191
just do normal weight loss
the issue with fasting is you're going to feel like it's a monumental task every time you have to lose weight instead of just casually dropping 500 calories like its no problem

>>77043211
Food addict take. Just don't eat for a day. It's not that hard.

>>77043216
Eating disorder take. Normal people can lose weight with 2-3 meals per day and basic portion control. You needing to abstain from food entirely like an alcoholic is the addictive behavior, not cutting normally.

>>77043216
If anything fasting is a food addict take. You're looking at food like it's cigarettes that you need to quit cold turkey, when it reality you need to be conditioning yourself to eat food more responsibly so you don't become so reliant on it for everything.
But you do you I guess, see you back in here next year like the rest of the fasters.

>check my micros on my app
>multiple 5000mg sodium days
haha oops

I reached my goal weight in November, I actually want to lose a little more but I just can't seem to dig down below BMI 22.0
I just want visible abs for once in my life

>>77043220
Normal people can't lose weight with 2-3 meals a day. If they could, we wouldn't be relying on big pharma to save us from ourselves. The choice is fasting or the jab.
>>77043226
It's not about quitting cold turkey, it's about being able to easily maximize calorie deficit. If you have additional fat, the only metabolic point (there are of course social and entertainment points) of eating is to get nutrients you can't store and to improve performance in the gym. The things most people fail on is they (a) don't clean up their act on refeed days, (b) relapse into old eating habits, and (c) don't incorporate fasting into their regular routine. (a) and (b) are closely related and any responsible faster should be paying close attention to refeeds for both nutrition and quality. (c) is just a helpful tool in general. If you do one 36 hour fast a week, you've given yourself a lot of wiggle room if you, say, have to take a bunch of hard-drinking clients out that week.

>>77043249
>Normal people can't lose weight with 2-3 meals a day. If they could, we wouldn't be relying on big pharma to save us from ourselves. The choice is fasting or the jab.
I'm down 40 pounds in 3 months through simple IIFYM calorie counting. Skill issue on your part. Thanks for admitting fasting is just as much a fatty crutch as Ozempic though.

>>77043249
Most people don't actually only eat 2-3 meals a day
They lie

>>77043260
IIFYM and calorie counting are for the autistic and those without social lives. I have to go out with clients regularly, and hunching over to track every little thing would make me look like a windowlicker. But if you are touched by the tism brush, more power to you.

>>77043264
>I'm too stupid to count and a raging alcoholic who can't be in public without a beer in both hands, everyone else but me is an addict
lol fat

>>77043245
gl, visible abs isnt until another -10 bmi points

i want to eat an entire frozen pizza, 2 bowls of potato chips, and a bottle of pepsi

>>77043267
I've actually managed to stop drinking at most events--the rise in NA beer has really been the greatest boon for the collective health of American sales reps imaginable. And have you tried counting restaurant food? It's a miserable experience unless you're somewhere that's a chain serving you ultraprocessed slop. Calorie counting is a great idea for people with lots of time on their hands, but it doesn't work for the busy professional.

>>77043274
I def had visible abs starting around the low 20s. They weren't super cut, but you could tell the separate muscles apart.

>>77043284
Again, you just keep repeating over and over how important and smart you are and yet how you lack the ability to do basic math in your head or function without your Emotional Support Can. Why are we supposed to take you seriously as anything but a fat retard?

>>77043287
Okay, let's look an example here. You order a Bison Bolognese at a restaurant. You have some idea of the ingredients (I cook it for myself regularly) but it's going to be very hard, if not impossible, to determine (a) what the actual amount of food you're getting served is (b) the relative amount of component parts, and (c) whether or not the chef has included high-calorie additives. You can guesstimate, sure, but if you just fast for a day you generate a calorie deficit that blows whatever you ate out of the water and you don't have to give a shit. Far easier. Objectively calorie counting can work, it's just not realistic for many/most people.

>>77043294
Everything you say revolves around making your life easier as an addict who can't count or problem solve beyond using fasting as a hammer for all your inadequacies.

Today's score:
>6.45km walked, 115m elevation
>18/16/14/12 ab rollouts
>14/12/12/12 lateral raises
>12/11/10/10 bench presses
>10/10/9/8 rows
>140g protein, 1800kc
>morning weight 176.5 (PR)

>>77043296
I've done the calorie counting shit in the past. And again, it objectively works. But why would you take something that requires far more time and effort to end up with a equivalent-to-worse outcome than the objectively superior alternative? Let's say you fast one day a week. That's equivalent to a 350 kcal deficit every day. As long as you aren't stuffing yourself every day, that gives you the flexibility to have a fun night or two in the week without worrying about it and you won't gain weight. And you can spend the rest of your week thinking about more important things than what mfp says.

>>77043305
>requires far more time and effort
You keep saying this and it really doesn't unless you're a particularly disadvantaged child. It's literally counting to 2000.
>objectively superior alternative
Whatever helps you cope with your binge-purge eating disorder.

>>77043317
Again, what do you do when you eat out? I can certainly count calories when I make something for myself, that's easy. But restaurant meals are going to be inaccurate, and even building in, say, 20+% to account for added butter and oil isn't really going to cut it if you aren't able to weigh the amounts. Your answer may simply be that you don't, but that's not a real option for many people. Fasting means I don't have to give a shit if the chef went overboard on an ingredient because it'll be subsumed by the calorie deficit from that.

>>77043281
I don't like pepsi. They have too much sweetness in the syrup in their shit. I prefer diet pepsi.

after counting calories for a long enough time you pretty much know how much calories something is just by looking at it and how hungry you are later

no other thread on /fit/ has people who actually care about results so I'll ask here, is there a reason not to use kettlebells for an overhead triceps extension? You can get more range of motion at both the top and bottom and it feels like a really natural grip angle, as opposed to holding a dumbell by one of the bells which feels janky (I also don't like goblin squats for the same reason)

>>77043357
Man just lift
Don't overthink it
Just like weight loss

>>77043359
It feels good so I want to keep the modification but I want to make sure I don't do something retarded and snap a tendon or something

>>77043052
Needlessly negative
>>77043071
Based damage minimizet

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>>77043236

>>77043403
>buying dandelion
nigga the dandelions are free, you can pick them, I have 429 dandelions

>>77043417
Ok

16 more hours and I can pig the fuck out and stop being fucking depressed

>>77043442
fastards will talk like this and think they've made any progress with being mentally fat

if food is still an emotional refuge than fasting is just bailing water, you haven't plugged the leak

>>77043449
Yep

>In conclusion, the present results suggest that fasting for weight control purposes is a more potent and consistent predictor of risk for future onset of binge eating and bulimic pathology

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2850570/

>>77042903
If there's one baptism that saves, and it's getting washed with water, was Jesus saved when He was water baptized by John the Baptist?

If Jesus' water baptism wasn't the same as the saving water baptism from after Pentecost, then was Jesus lying to the thief on the cross when He told him "To day shalt thou be with me in paradise"? (since the thief died before Pentecost)

>>77043474
Jesus doesn't need saved because he's God and therefore infallible and perfectly moral by definition, if he had sinned it would retroactively become not a sin

>>77043474
It doesn't matter. Each of the Gospels has, essentially, their own Christology that they're trying to portray. They were only collated later, and additional texts were added to try and reconcile the discrepancies. The whole book is just supposed to make you feel good and promote the message that you can't actually improve yourself. So just have the correct beliefs and wait to die, because heaven will be better.

>>77043449
I'm not fasting to definitively lose weight. I fasted to meet a certain number on a scale for sportsball shit

>>77043126
NGMI mindset
fix it
>>77043236
just drink water negro
that's what I do
>>77043367
if that was going to happen you would feel it
just be careful in the newly unlocked extra range of motion as the tissues aren't used to it

>>77043483
Yeah, that's called losing weight.

Beef, rice and greek yogurt now makes up most of my diet since trying to simplify things. Easy to track, easier to shop, easier everything.

>>77043500
make sure you're hitting your micros, zero veggies seems like a recipe for deficiencies and constipation

Weigh in tomorrow, not sure I am going to be down, but face is definitely starting to feel leaner, having a jawline again is kind of neat.

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>>77043126
Most I've ever had was 120kg, went down to 85 at my lightest. Took me a solid year to get it off. I know it's not much compared to those that were fatter and did weight loss longer, but here's my perspective.
I feel like you're looking at the process wrong. At the start you'll always feel like the task is monumental and overwhelming, I know I felt this way. But the more you lose, even after a month or two, you notice things like clothes fitting you better, walking around doesn't exert you as much or at all, your lifts improve, you don't smell like shit when you sweat, et cetera. Small things like these really pile up and it becomes much less of a "it's gonna take forever until I become thin" and more of a "this weight loss thing feels pretty good, how long can I keep this going"

>>77043126
first stop crash dieting
weight loss should be easy after adjusting the first few weeks. then you just wait, like waiting for a game or movie to come out.

So when I do finally get down to whatever weight I decide to stop at, do I go into like, 10 pound bulk-cut cycles indefinitely?

>>77043521
You slowly gain all the weight back cause once a fatty always a fatty

>>77043126
Think of it like this. You have to accept that time Is already going to pass, regardless of what you do in it. Be it a day, a month, a year time is already accounted for. It never stops moving forward. Next year might as well be tomorrow for how much control we have over it. You will wake up one day and it will have passed. You're going to live that time anyways, no matter how much you want time to stand still, tomorrow comes.

But it is our actions within it that we have control over. You can dedicate yourself in that time and improve, or you can look back when it comes to pass in regret. Because tomorrow is inevitable. Improvement is always a marathon. You take it day by day, step by step. You achieve small, take the little victories, every pound, every extra minute you can run. Then stack those small achievements towards your larger goal.

It wont be done tomorrow, but in that inevitable year from now, you can look back at the mountain of change made by consistent effort. Make peace with the inevitability of time, and recognise your abilities to effect change within it.

>>77043501
I used to eat broccoli but now feel like this bloats me. I might try looking at some other veggies to include, but broccoli used to be the easiest.

>>77043566
beets, brussels and carrots, bake 'em

anyone a diet soda drinker? how safe is that stuff? i wouldnt mind drinking it to deal with sweet cravings instead of having something caloric but don't want to if it's gonna give me stomach cancer or something

>>77043608
I don't drink any regular diet soda's but lately I've been drinking something called Zevia. It's different in the sense that it doesn't use any sugar, instead it uses stevia extract. It comes in a variety of flavors and is usually zero calories I think. Worth checking out.

>>77043608
I drink Fuze and before that I drank Kirkland sugar free iced tea but I think they discontinued it

Guys, am I fucking dying?

I'm a fat fuck who's been eating like shit for the past two years (been eating tons of fast food every couple days).

I've noticed that usually after I ate a big meal I become more "aware" of the left side of my stomach

About 1 or 2 weeks ago I started to occasionally feel pain from the lower left side of my stomach. The pain would come and go and it didn't hurt enough for it to be more than a mild annoyance but even still I'm worried this might be something more serious.

>>77043500
this is the way

Fatty Contest
MoonAndStar
123kg

What are you doing today? I am too tired and laying now. I just did a walk today. Almost done 3 weeks of walking.

>>77043713
I work overnights
I'm at work right now
When I get off I'm gonna shower and sleep cause my weekend starts

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Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 91.7 kg

Overall Progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x7yowJVTg0

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>>77042903
Week 2 of me plateauing at 101kg, give it up for week 2
I just wanna be sub100kg/human again, is that so much to ask

I had a break from dieting since mid november to mid january, and while I ate whatever I wanted for most of the time and gained a bunch of water weight, I must've at least internalized some good habits since after the past two weeks I'm already 2.4 kg lower than my weight in november.
That's the least damage over the holiday season I have ever did to myself.

>>77043209
I use zero but it changed its UI recently and it doesn't track the periods like it used to (with green bars of diferent lengths)

Now it doesn't show it, you have to click on past days and it's just the number.

>>77043074
i'm in the same boat.
just knowing that you eat when you're angry or upset by itself will have an effect.
you can try lifting when you're angry or doing some pullups.
i broke my record of 9 pullups by doing 11 when i was very angry one day.
i've never managed to do more than 9 after that bout of anger. ever.

80.7 kg this morning.

Fatty Contest
pineapplejuice
202

Fatty Contest
handofgob
161lbs
5'0"

>>77044143
L O N D O N

>>77043301
nice

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>>77043357
>overhead triceps extension
standing?
you should be doing those lying on your back and stopping at pic related for maximum triceps activation

>>77043521
you recomp indefinitely.
>eat at tdee
>maximize protein

>>77043639
go see a doctor. we don't know.

>>77044150
Those are awful, you should be doing kickbacks instead
You want to be working against gravity not with it on push exercises

>>77043753
>bro is closing in
>i'm still stuck
it's over

>>77044162
How is that not fully against gravity?

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>>77044162
>push exercises
it's triceps extension, anon.
your arms start over yiur head and back/down and you just extend the elbow.

>lost 160lbs in the last 2 years
>never took a GLP
>everyone assumes I did
Anyone else? I'm glad I'm lifting too so that when I get bigger people can't assume I never had to try.

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>>77044197
>lift weights
>get fit
>never roided
>everyone assumes I did

Nah lol just joking last sentence never happened

I have a migraine.

>>77044217
there are a whole set of drugs specifically for migraine.
go see a doctor.

>>77044223
Do you make appointments with and drive to a doctor to get pharmaceutical drug prescriptions for every mild and temporary malady you encounter?

>>77044235
no, I just shoot the rabid dog

>>77044238
Weird reply but ok

>>77044235
>mild and temporary malady
migraine is not mild not temporary.
unless you meant a bad headache instead of the actual disease.

>>77044244
>not temporary
nor*

>>77044244
It is both of those things. Migraine medication is usually barbitulets, and the side effects are terrible gastrointestinal upset. Maybe you shouldn't be giving recommendations about things you know nothing about.

>>77044197
>Do it the retarded way
>Try to swag on people
Fuck you

Fatty Contest
TimTamSlam
217.4 lbs

Shit got fucked up. February is the month to step my game up though. No more failed days.
Also gonna actively work muscles. Only cardio isn't cutting it.

>>77043608
It's fine, but it will fuck with your sense of thirst. Nothing replaces water and drinking diet soda will trick your body into thinking it's drinking

>>77044339
Its 99.999% water so he would be drinking

>>77044342
Well, I was thinking about the sodium that adds up.

>>77044342
retard

I just had the most nuclear explosive shit of my life, my god i feel good.

>>77044370
No it doesn't

Hey water-fast anon, do you drink any kind of electrolyte mix? What would you recommend?

>>77044370
Sodium in diet sodas? I don't get it
Do they have much, main concern would be caffeine

L>>77044422
He's incorrect. A diet soda has about half as much sodium as it does caffeine. You'd have to drink 10 diet cokes in order to get a fifth of your daily sodium requirement, And at that point you would have drank so much liquid that it would have offset the additional sodium anyway.

fatty contest
fatretard
181.9

>pants feel significantly looser
>shirts feel tighter
Am I being schizo or is this something that can happen?

>>77044448
do you lift? you should.
it can happen if you're lifting

>>77044448
That's not the only thing of yours feeling significantly looser

>>77043500
Beef is too expensive brother

>>77043417
That's a lot of dandelions

got a starbucks for the first time in like a year today but it's okay cause im having rice with chicken and avocado today and nothing else

>>77044466
Ground turkey isnt bad. $10 for 3lbs compared to $16.50 for 3lbs of ground beef

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>>77044638
>got a starbucks for the first time in like a year today
RIP in piece ur wallet, good luck at the welfare office!

>>77043500
This but cottage cheese, chicken breast and buckwheat and eggs and whole milk.

bros I urge you to look into cauliflower rice. shit's good.

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We Making Movements This Year That Were Not Destined To Be Made

>>77044723
Good job anon, I'm proud of you. Is this your first 1 hr run, or are you just getting faster?

>>77044744
This was back in November actually lel.
I never tried longer than 5 miles and then just decided fuck it let's give it a shot one day instead of doing my normal 30-45 minute run.
Ran like 3 circles around my neighborhood and local park paced by my Garmin for an hour and wasn't even tired really. I hit 10K and felt like I could have turned around and done it again.
This year I'm going to try and do 25 minute 5Ks like I was doing early last year, idk what happened but I lost that speed over the course of the year.

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>>77044466
hunt for discounts and stick it in the freezer

>>77044688
>t. poorfag

>>77044707
I dont believe the hype. I've had cauliflower.

>Got food posioning
Bros..... i'm dying......

>>77044852
have you tried living?

>>77042903
If you have the possibility or your gym has it included, try going to the sauna
It's not gonna burn calories but it helps with post workout recovery and bloodflow
Maybe it's placebo but it kinda helps me so far

>>77044163
Fuck no it isn't. I didn't gave up even though I hogged out the hardest out of everyone in this thread. You wont give up either. Get up.

>>77044852
For diarrhea: Pepto bismol/Kaopectate
For nausea: Ginger tea or gingerale/diet gingerale with ACTUAL GINGER like Seagrams
Stay hydrated with lots of fluids. Broth or Gatorade or anything you can keep down.

Rest up, you'll be back on your feet soon. Been there many times. You go this. Feel better.

>>77042903
Fatty Contest
Demoralized
106.4kg
Im not sure why I keep going. Im still eating too much even though I have improved my diet a heap. I think its only the few slip ups I have during the week thats upsetting my entire process. I can do better, I will do better. Praise will come when I am sub onehundred.

>>77044852
that's free weight loss, anon.
congratulations!

>>77044931
>Ginger tea
I have been enjoying ginger tea. Need to try and get it more gingery, but it still has that bite that ginger gives. I also add a squirt of honey at the end which makes it nice. I slice the ginger and boil it in a cup of water for 5 or so minutes. Perhaps just needs longer.

>>77044961
do what i do, cold turkey
limit yourself to one meal per day, no sort or form of candy allowed. first few weeks use zero sugar sodas to keep the sweet cravings away. It will suck the first week or two but youll get used to it and then losing it will be a lot easier. I dropped from 116 to 102 in 6 weeks trough this

god fucking damnit bros... i'm eating so many potato chips and soda and junk food... im starting to look like Senor Cardgage

>>77045070
remove all candys, replace them with sugarfree versions and slowly build them off. Put the sugarfree stuff in hard to reach places, so if you game or netflix you need to put in effort to get the sugarfree soda or candy

>>77045070
>identifies the problem
>doesn't fix it

>>77045042
I think sugar maybe holding me back. I still have 12g of sugar in my morning coffee, and the odd choccy frog or bakery treat. I think I just need to find the discipline to cut these out completely. Thanks

half of /fat/ feels like normal people who gained a bit too much not caring what they ate and can get back to a normal size with basic awareness and moderate exercise and the other half feels like a support group for recovering hard drug addicts and the two groups basically talk past each other

>>77045070
also if you go to work leave your debit card at home, remove your banking apps from your phone

>>77045090
>I still have 12g of sugar in my morning coffee
Go to Costco (or Walmart if you're poor idk) and get the biggest box you can of those little 1g splenda packets. Use those whenever you would usually use sugar.

>>77045090
the one meal per day diet helps fix this for me, it forces you to focus on one meal per day, so no time for candy. Remember your ancestors lived on a diet of oats and milk, you can live with a healthy meal per day. also start cutting down with coffee to once every 2-3 days. you will feel miserable for a long while but the changes will be worth it and leave behind your debit card so you dont purchase things at work or after. Make it as frustrating as humanly possible to buy those treats

>>77045093
>>77045108
lol what is this schizo addict shit
>make sure to leave everything you need to function in society at home so if something goes wrong you just fucking die
If you're so addicted to food you can't be trusted with your own money, you belong in an assisted living facility

>>77045126
its what needed, after a month or two you can take it with you its a way to install discipline emergently, what do you need to pay for at work? withdraw the exact amount of cash the day before

>>77045131
No, it's not what's needed for normal people, you sound like you belong on Ozempic. If you can't be trusted with your own money you also can't be trusted to dress yourself, drive a car, or hold a job in the first place. Learn to function at a basic level, or outsource it to drugs. Your advice is bad bordering on a threat to yourself and others.

>>77045092
The last few posts really echo this sentiment

>>77045149
i carry my debit card with me now, you can function without it. It helps to establish a bit of control. Its very helpfull in the beginning

Protein shake every day to hit protein goals ok? Or just use it on training days?

>>77045183
first of all protein shakes are food. they are not a magic pill. this is important because you need protein on all days, not just training days. so secondly whatever works for you

>>77045183
There's no reason not to, whey is just food. It's just dairy protein without the rest of the dairy. The only reason not to is if you're already hitting your protein goal or if it's weirdly expensive locally.

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How often do you have perfect days? I think I got pretty close today. I also only drank water, and I worked out.

breakfast (3 hours after waking up)
>banana and orange

lunch
>chicken soup with kale and carrots
>pan roasted (olive oil) turkey breast
>green and red leaf lettuce salad (tsp of olive oil)
>slice of rye bread (not that sliced/packaged crap)

snack
>50g of walnuts with a tsp of honey and orange zest

dinner
>cucumber salad (tsp of olive oil, pepper, salt, lemon juice, yogurt)

>>77045163
My day so far. Its filling, but the timing of my meals due to my work hours makes me still hungry. Like, my first meal is at 4:45am and my last meal is at 7:15pm. Its tough, but its what I deal with.
>Oats with protein powder and rasberries
>Tuna Salad Sandwhich on multigrain
>Shredded beef Pita with rice and salad

I’m feeling so defeated man. I feel like shit either doesn’t work for me or it works but I never stick to it. I have so much to lose.

>>77045193
Sounds a lot tastier than my day, but I only had turkey breast, fruits and vegetables in my fridge. I need to buy more stuff, but most days I'm kind of lazy when it comes to cooking.

>>77045216
there's only one path that works and that's the path of the humble calorie deficit

even ozempic basically just forces a calorie deficit, you can do the same thing yourself

>>77045225
>the humble calorie deficit
Which is why I need to get better with my tracking again. When I was eating simple easy to track foods I was losing weight well, now, not tracking im simply maintaining, which is still a win knowing I can at to maintain, but I still want to be losing. I used to eat a lot more which is why I got fat in the first place so happy I am no longer in that mindset.

reminder that if you can't deal with temptation, you can just remove the temptation
it's easier to avoid eating snacks when you don't have them in the house
it's easier to avoid buying snacks when grocery shopping if you're going grocery shopping once a week or less
it's easier to avoid overeating your food when you make your food just delicious enough to taste good when you're hungry but not tasty enough that you'd wanna eat more of it when you're full
if you're the kinda guy with willpower low enough that you'd just order takeout spontaneously than I dunno, threaten to fight the delivery driver or something so you get banned from the apps... okay that one is a stretch
also don't have cheat meals more than once a month or something, and don't dirty IIFYM OMAD - not that the calories won't be the same if you diet harder during the week and overeat on the weekend, or fast during a day and then have a huge meal - but this will just make you think about your upcoming meal constantly and will make it impossible to develop good habits
been there, done that
you're a recovering addict, act like one

>>77045216
>or it works but I never stick to it.
It's definitely this and you know it. I've struggled with this too. I usually do well for a couple of days and on my fourth or fifth day I cave in and eat junk food.
I feel like a lot of fatties claim "it doesn't work" because they do well for a couple of days or even a full week or two, but eventually give in to cravings and binge on 5000 calories of junk food. Even if it's just once a week, it's enough to ruin all progress. Then they quit claiming that dieting doesn't work for them because they remember all the clean days, but unfortunately even just one bad day can erase an entire week's worth of progress.
This addiction truly is one of the hardest ones to permanently cure.

>>77045247
trvke

>>77045092
Yeah because I dont give a fuck about normies with some extra pounds on them
I only care about fellow fats who have suffered with obesity their entire life

>>77045247
>and don't dirty IIFYM OMAD
I've lost 40 pounds doing that without any food noise, sounds like a skill issue on your part

>>77045279
sounds like it was a skill issue for you to be fat in the first place if it was that easy to fix

Saving up to get my own place. Any tips for frugal eating? So far my only lead is focusing on protein foods. All the cheap stuff is carb heavy though from what I can see.

>>77045312
Are you sure food is where you should be cutting spending? What percentage of your spending is food right now, and what else do you spend money on? I'd cut things like subscriptions before eating cheap slop.

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Long way to go, but I'm at the point now where people in my life have made positive comments on the difference.
Most of them have been about me looking happier walking around the office.

How lean should I get before switching from The Big Initial Cut to bulk/cut cycling?

uh, how much cardio to burn 1000 calories? asking for a friend

>>77045335
Maybe 3 hours of cardio

>>77045225
Of all the diets I find calorie deficit the hardest way to diet. It’s easier for me to just not eat at all.

>>77045248
Of course I know that. But I also can’t help but feel like it shouldn’t be this hard. The level of discipline and fortitude to suffer through no sleep and feeling shitty and tired all the time feels absurd. I was a benzo addict when I was young. I also quit smoking and drinking coffee. None of that was as hard as this. Not even close.

>>77045335
a lot, anything over 800-1000kc per day is probably unsustainable

>>77045347
not eating at all is also a calorie deficit, just an extreme form that doesn't teach you how to eat sustainably

>>77045335
Burning 1000kcal is difficult if not impossible unless you're an athlete or in good shape
>3 - 3.5 hours of brisk walking
>1.5 - 2 hours of non-stop running (8mph)
>1 - 2 hours of non-stop jump rope (120+ skips per minute)

Walking is your best bet if you're fat and out of shape, it just takes long.

>>77045348
Cardio calories would be relative to weight as well, yeah?
Like if a 500 pound guy walks 10k steps, he's probably burning way more than the 160 pound guy.

>>77045364
Well yeah, you can compensate a bit by putting a weighted vest on, but correct. That's why a 500lb man who walks 10k steps per day won't be 500lb for long.

>>77045371
Sorry my question was kind of not meant to be fully related to the first guy, I was just asking because I'm at 360ish right now and when I walk around the park with my buddy who is 150, our trackers have wildly different calories burned.

>>77045374
Naturally, imagine your buddy walking around while shoulder pressing 200lb the whole way

>>77045319
I don't have any subscriptions to any services. My current bills are all necessity (car, insurance, phone, rent, one CC)the only thing I can tighten up on now is food budget

>>77045247
The moment I refused to eat the cinnamon rolls my family brought to the house was the moment I started losing weight.

>>77045389
>the only thing I can tighten up on now is food budget
buy bulk raw chicken and rice, add some seasoning so it doesn't taste awful; make sure at least around a third of your diet is a rotation of other shit so your macros/micros stay good enough and at least get a basic bitch multivitamin.

>>77045312
meat + rice or potatoes

>>77045312
Dont listen to retards saying meat
Chickpeas are the goat of low cost bang for your buck macros

>>77045375
That makes sense.
Is that why people keep telling me that my calves will be insane when I'm done?

>>77045417
Great to eat in moderation, but will literally troon u like the onions-filtered bean if eaten in extreme excess.

>>77045430
Nigga shut the fuck up that's such a retarded reason to avoid one of nature's best options.

>>77045417
At that level of quality of life sacrifice he might as well dumpster dive for food to save money

>>77045408
>>77045410
>>77045417
alright sounds easy enough. I'll make this work

>>77045452
It's also not true

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how do people hate veggies when they're so easy to make delicious? gonna have a chicken cheese omelet with a side of baked veg for dinner

is chipotle bowl OMAD valid

>>77045494
the hell is that pink stuff

>>77045506
anon those are beets

>>77045508
looks like meat

>>77045513
you can season and cook them so they're savory if you like and red beet juice is a fun fake blood substitute

but the actual meat of the meal is the dead bird cooked in a bath of the placenta of it's child

(chicken omelet)

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>>77045452
>such a retarded reason to avoid one of nature's best options.
>>77045478
>It's also not true
Picrel. I support hummus and have a half-eaten container in the fridge I'll probably finish within the next week along with a block of tofu and a few kilos of meats/fish/cheese, but you wouldn't catch me using chickpeas as a primary protein source.
>t. understands bioactive foods

>>77045352
Well regular calorie counting deficit is by far the hardest way to diet for me.

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>>77045494
roasted root veg is tasty but prep and cleanup are a hassle and pre-prepped is a waste of money. more of an occasional treat than something to eat every day, especially when i can put away a whole pan in one sitting.
raw and poached just gives me gas

>>77045528
Cheese contains more bioidentical estrogen than either chickpeas or meat retard

Either way there is no evidence that any of them actually raise estrogen in men

>>77045528
>ai-generated answer. please verify critical facts.
Jesus christ why is this general using AI so much

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>>77045540
>prep
I mean chopping veg is a little work but it's not that bad
>cleanup
everything goes in the dishwasher

>>77045494
Tray of poverty tier "food" masquerading as "wow so yummy mmm!" by a stupid vegan Redditor.
Nobody is tricked by your slimy ilk, especially when you pull this stupid "a plate of leaves are actually good if you put a bunch of basedbean oil all over it!" Jerk off.

>>77045564
That looks pretty good, also I can see a bag of chickenbreast strips on the right so he's not even vegan

>>77045564
are you retarded that's half the plate
>>77045556

>>77045564
>"going to have a chicken cheese omelet"
>chicken visible in the picture
>somehow you get vegan from this

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>>77045556
also wash, peel, compost bin and no dishwasher

>>77045602
>peel
ishygddt

i discovered a new pitfall.
masturbation causes hunger.
i was pretty full before cumming and after i was very hungry.

>>77045650
Solution: just edge all day and never actually bust

>>77045660
yeah but i've never read this fact here before.
it should be added to the OP or something.

>>77045330
never ever. you should switch to recomp for life.
eat TDEE but just increase your protein and train really hard.

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>>77045542
>Cheese contains more bioidentical estrogen than either chickpeas or meat retard
The bioavailability is very low compared to chickpeas; I drink around a glass of milk a day plus a few ounces of cheese and this doesn't do much of anything to your hormones. I've tested 700+ test with ~2LH/FSH on both moderate milk and plantslop, stop being a preachy schizo.

>>77045650
eat the cum, problem solved

i dont think id be fat if i had friends

>>77045674
Now ask your AI how bioavailable phytoestrogens are
>preachy schizo
Funny projection, I suppose you're playing a role for entertainment, carry on

I've only had 1300kc today and I'm at 105g of protein what should I eat

>>77045700
you get VERY hungry after cumming.
not even a gang bang amount of cum would be enough to shut the hunger up.
>>77045702
i have friends and i'm fat
>>77045752
some sort of meat.

>>77045247
End of day OMAD is quite literally the biggest cut cheat possible. You can make a 1500 calorie meal that would stuff even the biggest fatass. Getting to 6 pm sucks, but who gives a fuck? I used that one meal as my reward for the day, and holy fuck if hunger isn’t the best spice then I don’t know what is. The flavor just explodes when you wait all day for it

>>77045904
>You can make a 1500 calorie meal that would stuff even the biggest fatass.
I eat 500g of chicken breast and 2kg of broccoli a day and Im still hungry as soon as I finish. It takes all my willpower to make it to the next day without stuffing my face.

>>77045918
>2kg of broccoli a day
Jesus christ

>>77045216
it's easier when you eat more veggies and leans meats and fewer carbs. count your calories and you'll see that there aren't that many calories in a big pile of chicken. it's not that you can't do it, it's that you are eating the wrong things. when you're in a caloric deficit you need to feel full sometimes- and lean meats and veggies are the easiest way to feel full while still losing weight.

>no candy
>no soda
>no fast food

everything is easier if you follow these rules.

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Fatty Contest
Prongs
101.8 kg

My migraine is gone. However the asprin and Tylenol I had to take gave me horrific diarrhea. Hopefully today is better.

I've been walking every morning a few miles in this cold weather (-5f to around 15f) and I've not only noticed it gives me energy after a walk? I feel charged/rejuvenated after it too, but my appetite is also way down, I'm not eating as much as I used too in general since I've started losing weight but it's sort of concerning, is this just a sign fat is being burned?

No other symptoms whatsoever.

today's damage:
>6.45km walked
>four sets of Russian twists
>four high rep sets of kettlebell swings
>four sets of step-ups per side
>1810kc, 150g protein

>>77046068
>no candy
>no soda
>no fast food
NTA but you can eat these things if you're smart about it. For candy I like to eat freeze dried fruit. Only drink diet soda. And for fast food go to Chipotle or Cava.
Eating the normal more unhealthy versions is still ok too if you limit it to smaller portions once or twice a month.

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>>77045528
>>77045542
>>77045547
This guy spams AI answers all across the fitness board. He has some of the most ridiculous opinions and either realizes that AI is a language prediction algorithm, which is designed to generally give you the information that you want to hear and is disingenuously just mass screen-capping or honestly believers that chickpeas will do this and that AI is infallible. He's been called out for not providing literally any sources in every single thread that he spams this crap in.

You ever put your fat self into chatgpt and have it create a lean version of you? Its mind blowing

>>77046186
No

>>77045904
Why do you have your meal in the evening rather than earlier in the day?

>>77046225
It's called delayed gratification. It's the hallmark of binge eating disorder.

>>77046235
Why not delay it until the morning? It will be much better for your sleep.

>>77046252
I don't know what you didn't understand about the post. When you starve yourself all day, it gives you a giant meal to look forward to at the end of the day. If you eat it at the beginning of the day, all you're going to be thinking about is how you can't eat for the rest of the day. This is how eating disorders work.

Fatty Contest
FatWicker
266 lb
6'3"

>>77046170
I like changing my perception of what desserts and snacks are. You cut out sweets long enough and baked sweet potato with some cinnamon on top eventually satisfies the urge as much as a piece of cake ever did

>>77043074
I used to eat as a way to deal with stress, which led to me ballooning. I know this is going to sound like a meme, but I sincerely believe that what allowed me to put an end to it was taking ashwagandha. It reduced by stress levels massively and allowed me to focus on other things. Your situation may not be the same, I have always been very prone to anxiety and ashwagandha helps exactly with that, but if you have to deal constantly with bad mood in one way or another and that causes you to overeat, you should probably look into fixing that first.

>>77045972
Im the guy who buys entirely too much broccoli everywhere I go. I go up to the registers with 12 bags of broccoli and 4kg of chicken breasts and the checkout lady usually asks something like "umm sir, can I ask you something, what do you do with all this broccoli?"
"I eat it?"
"By yourself?"
"Yeah"
Then they just look at me like Im insane.

Never got looks like this when I had a kart full of Oreos and Twinkies.

>>77046379
you could add some peppers or potatoes for variety

>>77046379
based legendary brocc-sumer, scarer of hoes

is there a way to save like a... meal plan, in cronometer? I see you can copy the previous day but I don't actually use it daily, I only go there when I make a change to what I'm eating(I eat the same stuff every day)

>>77046421
Foods > Custom meal

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Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 91.55 kg

Overall Progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhj2PGKO0hs

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I had a couple questions hoping for some insight to help deal with the situation I'm in.

For context I'm pretty big probably close to 300 but haven't weighed myself in a good while. I'd normally eat like one meal a day that was absolute shit and maybe have a snack or two then drink a huge amount of soda for the rest of my calories for years and years. Well for the last month with no exceptions I quit soda and things were going fine but around 5 or 6 days ago I started getting burning sensations in my feet later in the day, my dick would feel numb, my head would become hot or get ice cold sweats and my body would just pretty much be fucked and I'd just deal with it until I sleep hoping I'd feel better. I'm like 98% sure I've got sleep apnea along with these things I've been feeling that I can only assume are some sort of diabetes symptoms or some other health stuff.

I was wondering does anyone have advice for what I could do to help minimize or get rid of these symptoms? Been toughing through it and pretty much what I've read online that could help it is exercise and warm baths. For a week I've been taking Vitamin D supplements daily and Fish Oil supps but only just realized I was taking the wrong amount. I also just added today ALA capsules, Vitamin B complex supps and Magnesium Glycinate in an effort to help.

Feeling a bit better today but wondering does anyone have any advice for what I could do that could help me get some of this pain away so I can be in a better spot? Also I'm pretty much in poverty mode so wondering does anybody have any recommendations for cheap meals that are on the healthier side I could get?

>>77046480
Get your ass to a doctor ASAP before they'll have to cut your legs off.

If you want absolute poverty mode food then you cant go wrong with:
>100g Porridge + 100ml Skimmed Milk for BF
>100g Classic Rice + 200g / single Chicken Breast + 100g Veg/Broccoli for Lunch
> 200g Sweet Potato + 100g / single Fish Fillet for Dinner
> May need to supplement Protein Powder or increase meat portions if needed.

Magnesium is before bed with a glass of warm water to help you fall asleep.
Check if you dont need Vitamin K as well.

But seriously, go to doctor now.

>>77046292
>You cut out sweets long enough and baked sweet potato with some cinnamon on top eventually satisfies the urge as much as a piece of cake ever did
Yams have always been a dessert food. After a while of not eating sweets, food like cakes have become disgusting with how sweet they are. I now treat things like PB&Js, pancakes, and fruit snacks as desserts.

>haven't plateaued once since swapping from meme diets and fasts over to a simple -500 calorie deficit
>even with starting creatine, resistance training, and having a cheat day
>no tiredness, no headaches, no lack of energy in the gym
>still losing 2-3 pounds a week
Yeah this is the fucking way. Should have never bothered with all that other shit.

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Woke up at 5am.
Hit 203/200 goal in pushups before breakfast, 42 mins. No wrist or shoulder pain, been meaning to go for more and felt like I still could. Hit another 53 in 9 mins.

I still want to progress to archer pushups and eventually a one-handed but that's a year-long goal. WAGMI.

>>77046480
Doctor, not 4chan.
>100% you have full blow untreated diabetes.

>>77046620
You added in resistance training on a reason why your weight wouldn't go down? Bruh you burn calories lifting.

Hoglogic is baffling

>>77046480
Diabetes. Go see a Dr. immediately.

starting weight: 118.1 kg 20/8
current weight: 86.4 kg 30/1
goal weight: 70 kg
height: 179 cm

method: rolling 72s with water and coffee, starting on 18/1 i move on to rolling 48s.

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>one month bulking at 2500 calories/d
>gained .7 pounds
how much was I fucking eating before this to get fat holy shit

>>77046700
clean bulking is really difficult

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>>77046685
>Still stalling out at 209
>I'll never hit >200 at this point
>Have had multiple people tell me I don't even look like I weigh 200
>Have been cursed to hover around my goal but never reach it.

One must imagine Sisyphus happy.

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Fatty Contest
The O
184.8

Fatty Contest
GetAggrippa
108.7kg

>tfw been eating 2-3 apples a day and not counting the calories from them
>tfw each one was 160 calories
*WHEEZE*

>>77046883
What kind of apples are you eating lmao they are usually 100 calories or so

>>77046886
Cosmic crisp 140cal/100g the medium ones are 220g

>>77046889
No apple is 140 calories per 100 gram man

>>77046889
100cal/140g*

fatty contest
fatretard
179.7

>>77045918
have you tried eating >1kg of chicken every day?
i tried eating multiple bowls of salads and was full to bursting but was still extremely hungry.
other anons had similar experience.
maximize protein to maximize satiety instead of just filling your stomach with empty foods.

>>77046958
>have you tried eating >1kg of chicken every day?
NTA but yea that's what I eat when I'm not losing weight
not always chicken but meat in general
I fucking love meat I can eat unlimited quantities of it
even chicken breast if it's cooked right

>>77046958
Potatoes are very high satiety as well. Load up on veg and lean meats. Easy peasy

Apples are a great source of fiber if you're on a cut/recomp diet.

I was taking about 190-200g of protein a day on low carb and my shits were literally rancid. Started supplementing fiber directly in my shakes and eating a couple apples a day instead of snacking. The quality of my shits has been utterly immaculate. I hardly wipe, but that has nothing to do with current circumstances.

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damn Eddie really slimmed down...

Day 30/60 of my water fast.
We made it a month and we're half way there bros! I've been feeling like shit the past few days but I realize that's because I was slacking on properly hydrating myself. Been fixing that and now I feel much better.

You know you’re losing weight when sitting down for more than a few minutes begins to hurt

>>77047033
i've always wondered if glutes size affects this or if i'm still too fat to experience this.
i'm at 28 BMI, have fat on my glutes but my glutes aren't small and i can sit just fine.
or does it only affect people with low BMI?

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I fasted for weeks so that I could eat like this
I grinded it out

>>77047125
>eating carbs after a long fast
Ripbozo

>>77047125
You're getting back into bad habits and will just gain everything back and made the fast pointless. Learn to eat while you still have the weight loss from the fast so you don't waste the time spent fasting.

I ate over 3600 calories yesterday. I wasn't even hungry but I couldn't stop myself. Fucking hate this fat, food addicted brain.

>>77047031
Fake

>>77047033
sitting down feels more comfortable now that I can fit in my office chair

>>77047166
Yeah I’ve been thinking he’s just making shit up
But who knows, it could be real - just ignore until he actually posts some pics or something

$580 a year the gym. I tried dumbbells at home but I have 0 space for my height and frame.
Should I pull the trigger for it?

>>77047125
remember to count your calories to stay within your limits.

>>77047188
Only if you're actually going to go.

>>77047188
>I tried dumbbells at home but I have 0 space for my height and frame.
wtf are you doing with dumbbells?
OHP, curls, front raises, side raises and rows are all you need.
you can do them standing or bent over next to your bed with adjustable dumbbells.

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>>77047197
>OHP, curls, front raises, side raises and rows
I'd add something for the lower body to this, goblet squats, dumbell deads, split squat, ect, just do something.

fatty contest
fatretard
179.2

>>77047197
Yeah basically with some flies while on the floor.
I'm 6 foot 5 in a studio apartment, just feels really cramped.

>>77047211
chest is for women. skip it.

>tfw strongfat and bulky enough to impress the former prostitute(?) vs what looked like the current crackhead/lanklet she was with
>I never fucked, despite both of us wanting to, for multiple reasons
>Gonna leave the state on Wednesday, told her but didn't offer my number or a way to keep in touch.

(I hope u enjoyed my blog as much as I enjoyed making it)

Fatty Contest
FootOnToiletTank
309lb

On eating days I'm having around 150g protein and I feel fine. Need to hydrate more consistently on fasting days during my rolling 48s, headaches are an issue. I made some diy electrolyte powder last night in bulk, 1000mg sodium and some potassium and magnesium too per 4g. It's surprisingly not that salty, I used 2/3 sea salt for sodium chloride and 1/3 trisodium citrate dihydrate which is why, I suppose. Going to start with 12g of it a day which is 3000mg sodium, hopefully it'll be okay.

Been walking for now, but I want to get started on resistance training today. I'll do bodyweight stuff and planking for a bit, and then buy some adjustable dumbbells soon.

>>77047188
that seems really expensive for a beginner
is there no other place nearby?

Fatty Contest
GentleBarker
268.8lbs

>>77043126
It is not time wasted becoming healthy, that's a terrible sentiment anon.

>>77047231
Plant Fitness and Crunch at like 15 a month but it's filled with kids and shit bags.
This is the best price but it's also a promotion price only for today. Then it's like 800 a year which is still like the 3rd cheapest in town.
Honestly having room and less people I have to see is what I want. And an excuse to get out is nice as well. But I also love saving and not spending a lot of money.

Also will only dumbbells at home get me big for my height and naturally large frame? I'm still fatty and weak looking.
I can get measurements and pictures later tonight if needed.

>>77043336
The problem is you framed yourself as self important because you have clients when many people have good jobs that don't involve having to eat out every day.
Plus fat when all you have to do is stop eating heavy food at restaurant, salmon/chicken, sub veg etc. You may not be 100% accurate with calorie counting, but you don't have to act like it's impossible.
Again nothing wrong with fasting, you're just being a dick however and anon pointed it out. You're bad at counting.

how viable is starvemaxxing to cut down weight?

>>77043566
Eat kiwi with skin

>>77047263
gyms that expensive usually have trainers and a ton of extra facilities. if you're going to use them then it's worth it, if not then you might as well get a planet fitness membership.

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>>77047125

two weeks into my current diet I have surprisingly few cravings other than some fatty meat
I could murder some kielbasa, or roast pork, or something like that
but no carb cravings which is unusual for me, but also nice

>>77047221
i did enjoy it. but i want it to be more detailed in the future

>>77047278
if you can control yourself when you eat again, it's pretty viable.
if you're going to pig out when you return to eating, it's very shit.
most people can't control themselves when they start eating again.
myself included so i just eat less. my pigging days are fewer and my average calories is still below 1,400 since i started my diet.
i'm a manlet so that's a 400kcals deficit.

>>77047322
The absolute state and absurdity of my life vs what I once envisioned it to be couldn't be painted in starker contrasts even if I'd tried.

>>77046480
The bad news is, you probably have diabetes.
The good news is, you're in the right place. Because the only way to reduce these symptoms is to lose a lot of weight.

>>77047278
it's only good for short term
long-term you still have to learn how to avoid binging, eating garbage, and snacking

>>77047166
>>77047175
What makes you think it's fake? Keep in mind I'm very obese so it's pretty easy for me to lose via fast and walking (though I've been neglecting my walks desu). My scale seems to be broken, but if it's not, then I've lost ~30lbs or so. It really isn't so bad after the first week as long as you stay properly hydrated.

>>77047019
that backwards 力 on his chest looks retarded lol

>>77047311
I do still suffer from the occasional sweets craving, especially chocolates but I worked in a solution. I eat a serving of greek yogurt with 2 scoops of chocolate protein powder mixed in, preferably left overnight to fully hydrate and re-thicken. It tastes good, its 350-400 calories depending on what yogurt I use but it has excellent macros (70 grams of protein with a good yogurt) keeps me fuller for longer and is easy to fit into my diet at breakfast. I also utilize rice cakes for snacks sometimes, at 60 calories a pop one after dinner satisfies my ravenous desire for crunchy shit.

>>77046736
Bro you've been plateauing since fucking July, its clear whatever youre doing isnt working. You're not losing any weight. Eat less and get your head in the damn game.

>>77047491
Just replace chocolate with 80-90% dark chocolate.
You won't want to eat an entire block of it, and it doesn't make you feel sick afterwards.

>>77047444
If you have a TDEE of 2000 you would expect to lose about 4lb/week of water fasting, or 120lb over the space of a month. And that's ignoring the fact that you would probably be dead without medical intervention because of electrolyte and vitamin deficiencies. You're lying.

>>77047597
>120lbs in the space of a month just for water fasting
what the fuck am i reading, are you really calling someone else a liar because you're retarded lmao?

>>77047618
You lose roughly 500g or 1lb per week per 500cal deficit. Do the maths, retard.

>>77047624
literally no one is going to lose 120lbs in a month doing a water fast. you actually are retarded. please look online at literally anyone that actually has done a water fast. you really are out here calling others liars because you're stupid lmao

>>77047597
>>77047624
EVEN THEN, how the FUCK does 4lb/week add up to 120lbs in a month? what the fuck are you smoking?

>>77047637
>>77047642
Yeah my bad niggers, I was saying his weight loss was higher than expected, not lower. I typo'd the zero, I meant 12lb.
My point is that for him to lose 30lb in a month his TDEE would be something like 3500-4000, which is unlikely unless his "walks" are literally 24/7.

>>77047668
with water weight and being obese, you can easily do 30lbs with extended fasting in a month
someone in the other thread literally posted a 30lb weight loss for jan. doing some fasting and eating, and given the sharp decline in the first week compared to the rest, it's easy to assume water weight was lost with it. there's much more to the body than just that, please read more on this stuff. it's also why people gain weight faster and puff up more after a fast, the water is retained.

What would happen if I just took all my nutrients through vitamins and supplements instead of food?

>>77048059
you would probably have to study biochemistry and make sure your body is actually absorbing what you're taking, and in the right amounts

>>77048059
Generally your don't assimilate supplements as well as you do real food, they're good for filling in gaps but not really a replacement for real food in the long term. You'll end up pissing out most of them while still be deficient if you don't eat anything real.

>>77048059
You would probably end up looking like Bryan Johnson.
He eats a lot of regular food too though, and some of his recipes are unironically good.

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>>77048164
I ironically both eat more real food than him and take more supplements than him; his protocol isn't quite full retard, but I don't suffer from being a victim-weight walled twink with Chud lines.

>>77048313
Doesn't he take like 150 pills a day?

I’m never masturbating again

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>>77048325
No, I think you're confusing him with me; his protocol is just a few dozen pills, pretty minimalist now...
>blueprint.bryanjohnson.com/blogs/news/bryan-johnsons-protocol

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I walked for an hour today across three walks despite really shitty weather. Pretty huge cause as a fatfuck I'd always just spend 95+% of the day sitting. Dedicating to doing an hour or more a day and working in more stuff, the future is looking brighter.

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>>77048189
>instead of food