What's the point of multivitamins when beef liver exists? Just put a few small pieces in your meal and your set for the week.
>your setyou're set*
>>77047656Cuz I don’t always have access to beef liver, nor do I always want to eat it, you fucking retard
>>77047656no. I don't think I will.
I heard you have to marinate it in milk for a few hours before frying it with onions. Does it taste like milk steak?
>>77047683tastes like dog nipples
>>77047683Marinating in milk is for americans who are eating shitty feedlot liver, I am not american so I can get fresh liver, it has an underlying sweet flavour because of its glycogen content, it is a very strong contendor for nicest food in the world, no bitterness, it is like heaven.
>>77047686>contendorcontender*
>>77047656Another pathetic attempt to promote keto. What is their end goal?
>>77047656>what is the point of a cheaper, easier to consume, tasteless, more nutrient dense option?
>>77047656My roommates have banned it from the house because it smells bad, I can only cook it when they are out of town.
>>77047683>I heard you have to marinate it in milk for a few hoursI have never done this.Onions do go good with it though.
>>77047686Even shitty American feedlot liver still tastes pretty damn good, imo.
>>77047711You let your roommates tell you what you can eat?What a fucking cuck. That's fucking pathetic.
>>77047735it's called common curtesy. Just like you don't microwave fish at the office.>brown people wouldn't get it, it's a civilized society thing
>>77047735With the way the housing market is, there's going to be a lot more 'cucks' in the future
>>77047656>why dont people throw a few chunks of this disgusting trash instead of just taking a pill that is also 10x cheaperShit I dont know...Reminder, people with acrually medical deficiencies in whatever vitamin are mineral are just given a supplement of the given nutrient, not told to eat more broccoli or whatever the fuck lmfao
Why is everyone in this thread a big pharma shill? Multivitamins don't even work.
>>77047802Most people are dumb as fuck, it's astounding when you realise this.
>>77047656
>>77047820Enjoy your hypervitaminosis from trying to convert your vitamins with liver.Common side effects of hypervitaminosis:HairlossOh my sides
had 130g of beef liver with a pint of haagen dasz for breakfast
>>77047802You think "big pharma" sells the $10 multivitamins on Walmart? At least the retards hallucinating big pharmacy hiding the cure for cancer have some reasoning of "sell treatment not a cure" but here's its uh... >vitamin sont work cuz it ain't natural and shitLook into how the "Goiter" belt of the northern US was resolved...
“Vitamin A affects the differentiation of skin cells, the production of steroids, and resistance to infection and inflammation. The great increase in formation of the sex steroids at puberty increases the need for vitamin A, and makes its regulatory actions more important. Thyroid's important functions for the skin are the production of steroids and preventing their imbalance, and maintaining the immune function and production of sebum. Other nutritional deficiencies, especially the balance between vitamin E and unsaturated fats, affect the functions of vitamin A and thyroid, so it's important to include foods like liver, eggs, oysters, fruits, and milk in the diet.” - Dr Ray Peat PhD“Vitamin A's effect on the skin opposes that of estrogen. There are several mechanisms that could account for this. Vitamin A is used in the formation of steroids, and since the skin is a major site of steroid metabolism, vitamin A might help to maintain the level of the anti-catabolic steroids. A deficiency of vitamin A causes excessive release of the lysosomal enzymes, acid hydrolases, resulting in tissue catabolism. Also, vitamin A is necessary for the proper differentiation of cells in skin and other membranes. A deficiency tends to cause an increased rate of cell division, with the production of abnormal cells, and a substitution of keratinized cells for other types. Estrogen also promotes keratinization and speeds cell division. A deficiency of vitamin A can cause leukoplakia in the mouth and on the cervix of the uterus; although this is considered "pre-cancerous," I have found it to be very easily reversible, as I have discussed elsewhere. I suspect that the intracellular fibre, keratin, is produced when a cell can't afford to do anything more complex. Adequate vitamin A speeds protein synthesis, and allows it to be used more efficiently.” -Ray Peat
>>77047831>You think "big pharma" sells the $10 multivitamins on Walmart? Yeah, pfizer, bayer, nestle, procter and gamble literally own all the supplements you see at Walmart
>>77047683Because beef liver tastes like shit. >>77047656I wanted to do a liver and onions recipe so I did this recipe> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/calfs-liver-with-bacon-caramelized-onions-and-sherry-3645187.ampLiterally a 10/10 recipe. You light the shit on fire. So fucking cool.I went to eat it and it was the most disgusting thing I have ever put in my mouth. I wanted to like it so bad too. I used veal liver.
>>77047831>do you think pharmaceutical companies sell pharmaceuticsYes.
>>77047856>you light it on fire>it was disgustingSounds like you overcooked it, retard. Learn to cook.
>>77047853OK, and how much of their revenue do you think comes from these? Do you really think its as high that theyd pay shills to advertise these $10 supplements? Do you think liver or these pills has higher margins btw... lmfao
>>77047872>how much of their revenue do you think comes from these?Billions.>Do you think liver or these pills has higher margins These pills.
>>77047872It's a long game, sell people your low cost products that don't do anything, they get sick, sell them your high cost products.
>>77047872Liver is cheap tho
>>77047802Multivitamins usually fall under the "wellness supplement" industry which are not big Pharma. Which is a hundred times more corrupt due to lack of regulation, but also has nothing to do with the quality of a product. You would have to be an idiot to question the validity of a fucking multivitamin.
>>77047802>Multivitamins don't even work.Yeah they do and you cannot prove otherwise.
>>77047989>>77047998>Yeah they do and you cannot prove otherwise.>You would have to be an idiot to question the validity of a fucking multivitamin.Wrong.https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2793446>The largest trial, COSMOS (Cocoa Supplement and Multivitamin Outcomes Study; n=21442), also found no effect of multivitamin supplementation on all-cause mortality>Pooled analyses of 4 studies demonstrated no association between multivitamin use and cardiovascular disease mortality or cancer mortality>multivitamin supplementation was not associated with an effect for most outcomes
What's the point of multivitamins in general when you can get every nutrient your body needs from food.Some people do need extra supplementation tho like if you're anemic you might want to take a sup to be sure instead of eating a shit ton of iron and vit c rich food. But in most cases, if you just eat a variety of different organic things you don't need meds at all at it's not even expensive.The funniest one is vitamin d supplementation. Like literally just go out you fat fuck. The sun is free.
>>77048016??????What do you think the purpose of multi-vitamins is? They are micronutrients that can be used to prevent nutrient deficiencies. I don't think anyone has ever claimed taking a vitamin will prevent you from getting heart disease or cancer.
>>77048020>Like literally just go out you fat fuck.It's winter
>>77048026Thanks for reminding me that the sun literally turns off every winter, I almost forgot.
>>77048020>What's the point of multivitamins in general when you can get every nutrient your body needs from food.They are a very cheap insurance option. >if you just eat a variety of different organic thingsEating "organic foods" don't magically fulfill dietary needs. I don't think there is any evidence that organic foods are noticeably more nutrient dense. >The funniest one is vitamin d supplementation. Like literally just go out you fat fuck. The sun is free.Some people live in climates where that isn't realistic, work night shifts, or have absorption issues. Most store brand multi's are pennies per pill and guarantee you're going to be getting every single nutrient you need in less than a few seconds. The upside is so good I don't understand how anyone could not recommend it unless they have some sort of pride issue where they HAVE to get all their nutrition from food to prove how healthy they eat or something.
>ctrl+f>marinate>recipe>cook
>>77048036Yes. It's cloudy literally 6 days a week and even if it isn't it's so cold all my skin is covered
>>77048025You should look up what "all-cause mortality" means. All-cause mortality includes people dying of nutrient deficiencies, like an old lady with osteoporosis due to calcium and vitamin D deficiency who dies of a hip fracture.
>>77048037>guarantee you're going to be getting every single nutrient you need[citation required]Eat a multivitamin and 2000 calories of white sugar every day and see how long you have before malnutrition hits.
>>77047700>eating literally any meat is ketoKill yourself Indian vegan shill
>>77048096>macros and micros are the same thing I get all my protein from vitamin pillsKill yourself you mouth breathing retard monkey nigger
Eating raw liver is normal and human.
>>77048100Yes, anon, "nutrients" includes macronutrients and micronutrients. Thanks for agreeing with me that multivitamins do not give you "every single nutrient you need in less than a few seconds."
>>77048104Where do you buy liver that's safe to eat raw? Do you freeze it first to nuke pathogens like sashimi tuna?
>>77047872did you learn addition in school yet? those 10 dollars add up pretty quick when you sell 100s of millions of them.
>>77048113Yeah retard and you think these pharma companies aren't selling millions of actual drugs for $100‐1000$ a bottle. Fuck you disgust me with youre retardation. >hundreds of millions of multivitamins bro!Christ hang yourself >>77048096We had the one doctor, who did the "twinkie diet" living off twinkies and other crap from gas stations with a multivitamin and protein powder to lose weight and every blood markers improved. Ur liver and avocado larp are doing jack shit if youre a fat retard, which you are of course. Yes the multivitamin works...
>>77047656>Over 100% of daily dietary cholesterol Have fun with your clogged arteries
>>77048110I buy all my meat from a local farmer after it gets processed by a local, family-run slaughterhouse. Would highly recommend. Much cheaper and tastier than the grocery store. Also I get free dog bones for my dog. Definitely worth googling + calling around to find a similar set-up in your area.
>>77048124>big companies aren't allowed to have multiple streams of revenue>source: me, and I'm the mayor of Stupidsville
>>77048135You really don't get it huh? The point is these vitamins make a fraction of the revenue of these companies. Theyre not paying people to shill it. When's rhe last time you saw a multivitamin ad? What did you even think we were arguing. Le 90iq retard...
>>77048124>every blood markers improvedOh really? What were his iron levels? What about his vitamin B12, folate, vitamin D, calcium, magnesium, phosphorus, zinc, copper and selenium?I looked up that professor and he was an inactive skinnyfat guy. His only metrics were his weight (he lost 27 pounds) and his "good and bad cholesterol" along with his triglycerides. With only these points of data, we actually have no idea what his nutrition status was. Also, I'm not a skinnyfat professor, and I would quickly become malnourished if I tried that diet, because I exercise intensely multiple days a week. So I need micronutrients like the ones found in beef liver, and the protein and fat found in red meat and dairy.
>>77048144>When's rhe last time you saw a multivitamin ad?I don't watch ads. I don't watch TV, and I have AdBlock on my browser.
>>77048161>needHow about you post body instead ketoschizo
>>77048037>Most store brand multi's are pennies per pill and guarantee you're going to be getting every single nutrient you need in less than a few seconds.you don't know how shit most multivitamins are. they aren't even fucking regulated in most places, including the US. they almost always contain the cheapest possible formulations of every nutrient in them. companies aren't asking "what's the best way we can deliver these nutrients", they're asking "what's the absolute cheapest way we can claim this pill contains 100% DV of these nutrients" with no care whatsoever for absorption and actual effect on the end user>>77048025there's at least a handful of vitamins that have a causal effect on heart disease if you're deficient in them. they're vitamins, they're essential micronutrients and by definition of "vitamin" their deficiency is directly linked to a disease. you'd imagine that if your centrum pill did jack shit, a study of 20,000 people would show some kind of effect whatsoever on all-cause mortality. and we haven't even begun to talk about minerals.>>77048144>When's rhe last time you saw a multivitamin ad?really? you can go to literally any TV channel old people watch and find a centrum silver commercial in <1 hr. flintstones vitamins were shilled every other commercial break on cartoon network growing up. if it's not a multi it's an ad for something by the same companies you'll find in the same aisle
>>77048213>you don't know how shit most multivitamins are. they aren't even fucking regulated in most places, including the US.I'm aware, thats why it's a scam to buy expensive brands from grifters. You should only buy the store brand.>the cheapest possible formulations of every nutrient in themLike what? Vitamins are vitamins. Give an example, I don't see anyone dying or having any harmful effects from cheap multivitamins. >there's at least a handful of vitamins that have a causal effect on heart disease if you're deficient in them.Nowhere in that study did they check to see if the participants were deficient. Taking supplements when you're not deficient isn't going to really do anything. >they're vitamins, they're essential micronutrients and by definition of "vitamin" their deficiency is directly linked to a disease. you'd imagine that if your centrum pill did jack shit, a study of 20,000 people would show some kind of effect whatsoever on all-cause mortality. and we haven't even begun to talk about minerals.Again, the point of a multivitamin to remove deficiencies. Why are you jumping through so many hoops for things that could have multiple confounders? Especially when we straight up have evidence that multivitamins literally have been shown to increase blood concentrations with their respective vitamin. >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29470410/>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6930747/>https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/nutrition/articles/10.3389/fnut.2021.610382/fullNot to mention things like pre-natal supplements which are recommended because they obviously work. We also wouldn't have any vegans that last longer than a year because they would die from lack of B12.
>>77048070Where does it say in the study it was testing supplement usage on people with deficiencies? If the old lady already is getting her calcium from food and is meeting the RDA, then a supplement isn't going to do jack shit.
>>77047826>If you have too many nutrients your hair will fall outPeople actually believe this LOL
>>77048036It's been proven that it's literally impossible at certain latitudes to get enough vitamin D during the winter, even if you sun-tanned for an hour in the middle of the day (which you won't because it's fucking cold). The sun is simply at too low of an angle for enough UVB light to get through. And where I live, it's cloudy like 95% of the time during the winter anyway. Therefore, I cannot get enough vitamin D between November and March. Our ancestors would have been getting vitamin D during the winter from food sources like fish and brain, because they also would've been bundled up due to the cold.
>>77048052Unironically this. Cooked liver is inedible compared to raw. I guess I get it hough if all you have access to is shitty feedlot liver, because that's poisonous raw.
>>77048570>Changes like severe dryness, hair loss, or rashes are common with Vitamin A overdose.You're just a fucking stupid person is all.
>>77048036consider how the angle of incidence of the sun's rays impacts how much atmosphere it has to travel through
>>77047656>What's the point of multivitaminsSo urologists can treat kidney stones
>>77048600>I go on the internet and spread lies for freeShow me one verifiable case of vitamin A overdose. And try not referencing that outlier case of polar bear livers which has already been debunked (that was cadmuim poisoning - and even if it wasn't, the levels of vitamin A in polar bear liver are way higher than anything you will get from beef liver). Getting too many nutrients is a meme. If your body senses that you have too much of some nutrient, the food that contains that nutrient will start to taste bad as your body naturally downregulates its own consumption.And I've quite literally NEVER heard this claim that too many nutrients causes hair loss before. Again, you won't provide a source because it's complete bullshit. Show me any verifiable case of liver consumption causing hair loss. If you're going to spread lies, at least make them plausible.
>>77048617Nta but getting too many water soluble vitamins is indeed a meme since your liver and kidneys purpose is literally to flush them out, having too many fat soluble ones or minerals can be bad
>>77048464>Like what? Vitamins are vitamins. Give an example, I don't see anyone dying or having any harmful effects from cheap multivitamins.it's not harm, it's ineffectiveness. as an example, magnesium oxide vs. magnesium glycinate. glycinate (and other organic forms like citrate and taurate) have 4-5x the absorption rate of oxide. guess which one they put in multis. another example, zinc picolinate vs zinc oxide/citrate/gluconate. of these, oxide has the worst absorption. what's more (since you pointed out blood concentrations), even though all 4 of these have been shown to increase serum concentration, picolinate is the ONLY one that has been shown to actually increase zinc concentration in red blood cells, body tissue, and urine (post-acute). turns out serum concentration isn't everything that matters after all! gl finding zinc picolinate in your store brand multi>Nowhere in that study did they check to see if the participants were deficient. Taking supplements when you're not deficient isn't going to really do anything.are you suggesting a study with 10k non-vitamin taking participants (plus meta-analyses of additional studies) possibly had no vitamin- or mineral-deficient subjects? even though 1 in 3 americans are deficient in vitamin D, to name one? jarvis, analyze the probability of this scenario>Why are you jumping through so many hoops for things that could have multiple confounders?nigger you're literally what-ifing statistical impossibilities and citing studies that directly contradict things you're saying. go ctrl+F "cancer" and "cardiovascular" in the first abstract. read the second study, wholly paid for and supplied by the synthetic supplement manufacturer btw, and how they used serum concentration as their primary endpoint, and the fact that they found the natural vitamin B actually had meaningfully better functional results but this was swept under the rug. i'm hitting the post length limit explaining your retardation to you, DO YOU SEE?
>>77048464Bottled vitamin D cholecalciferol is a potent raticide/rodenticide
>>77047702>liver is tastelessLarper detected. You've never eaten liver
>>77047656i don't eat meat
>>77047831>Look into how the "Goiter" belt of the northern US was resolvedif they do so with iodine, why aren't they adding all kinds of other beneficial minerals and multivitamins to salt?
>>77047660nah nah he means put some liver in your meals and in your current set
They only had 300g servings this morning at the supermarket, is it too much to eat for dinner after leg day today? Don't wanna eat half and have the rest sit there for days
>>77049374You know you can freeze it like any other meat right
>>77049108this guy is right, liver isn't tasteless, it tastes like shit
>>77047872Liver is dirt cheap in my country, its an organ meat and specifically the one that filters out toxic shit so everyone avoids it.Supplement pills have higher margins, you are stupid and unaware how BIG the big pharma industry is, sorry bro.
>>77047869Nigger learn what flambaying is
>>77048808from merck veterinary manual>Toxic doses of cholecalciferol are much lower than reported acute lethal doses (13 mg/kg) and LD50 (88 mg/kg)so using the lower toxic dose, and 1 IU = 0.025 µg is if I didn't fuck up, 520,000 IU/kg
>>77048703Nice effort posting, thanks
>>77049416Im sure Albania is wonderful country, indeed.
>>77048652Cool, provide any evidence that eating too much liver leads to negative health outcomes
>>77048703Statistically, the probability of a group of 10,000 non-supplement-taking participants having zero vitamin or mineral deficiencies is essentially zero.The following analysis explains why this scenario is considered a mathematical and biological impossibility based on public health data.1. Mathematical ImpossibilityIf we use your "1 in 3" figure for Vitamin D deficiency alone (33%), the math is as follows:The probability of one person not being deficient is \(0.67\).The probability of 10,000 people all not being deficient is \(0.67^{10,000}\).Result: A number so small it has over 1,700 zeros after the decimal point.2. High Prevalence in Non-Supplement UsersReal-world data shows that those who do not take vitamins are at the highest risk for deficiencies:Supplement vs. Non-Supplement: Research indicates that roughly 40% of non-supplement users are deficient in at least one vitamin, compared to only 14% of regular multivitamin users.Vitamin D Reality: While many sources cite 33% as a baseline, some CDC analyses and National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) data suggest that up to 95% of Americans do not get enough Vitamin D from food alone.
>no k2>no d3>lacks some of b vitamins>not vit c>probably not enough a, eits ok for most of b vitamins and some minerals
>>77049749>probably not enough almao
>>77049769oh yeah i forgot who gives a shitnobody gets enough micros from a diet
>>77049108I can tell you're american because you have the reading comprehension of a toddler. Try again, slowly.
>>77049804I'm sorry you're so upset, but the response was perfectly in line with what you said.
>>77049749>no d3If your skin color matches (or is lighter than) the weather, you should be getting enough d3.What do you think of egg nutrition?
>>77049861Pretty sure he means the vitamins and not the liver, dummy
>>77050016Pretty sure you missed the joke
beef liver is good however it is not a multi replacement and has too much vitamin a and copper to be consumed daily like a multi
>>77048703>magnesium oxide vs. magnesium glycinate. glycinate (and other organic forms like citrate and taurate) have 4-5x the absorption rate of oxide. guess which one they put in multis.You make a good point, but considering the RDA and absorption rates of oxide, you would still fall into the "adequate" category from just taking a cheap multi with a low zinc/magnesium diet. I feel like you're nitpicking on a few micronutrients when you should be looking at the entire package. >are you suggesting a study with 10k non-vitamin taking participants (plus meta-analyses of additional studies) possibly had no vitamin- or mineral-deficient subjects? even though 1 in 3 americans are deficient in vitamin D, to name one? jarvis, analyze the probability of this scenarioTo the point where we would expect heart disease and cancer rates to go up noticeably? Yes. More important symptoms to check for would be things like fatigue and immune response but most importantly specific symptoms related to individual micronutrient deficiency. It's just a strange thing to focus on as nobody takes a multivitamin for the goal of preventing heart disease. >go ctrl+F "cancer" and "cardiovascular"I have never claimed it prevented cancer. I don't care if the abstract includes that. I am pointing to the data in the study showing improved rates of nutrient deficiencies among populations that include a multivitamin in their diet. And even if you don't accept serum blood levels improving, we can look at symptoms for specific micronutrient deficiencies improving with supplementation. Such as reduced fractures with vitamin D/K, reduced anemia from iron, reduced infections, improved cognition. The second two studies I posted directly test for improvements in these symptoms. Literally proving they are having a direct impact. Here are more. >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11110875/>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29370120/>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37375594/
>>77048617>If your body senses that you have too much of some nutrient, the food that contains that nutrient will start to taste bad as your body naturally downregulates its own consumption.As someone who eats nutrient-rich foods like beef organs and eggs, and who pays attention to how I feel when I eat, this is 100% true. The most clearly obvious example of this is "the egg wall," which anyone who actually belongs on /fit/ should know well.
>>77049421I'm not the one overcooking my liver like a retard, retard.
>>77049416>specifically the one that filters out toxic shitHow long did it take for you to get a medical degree in your country lmao. Every organ in your body "filters out toxic shit," from your brain to your heart to your lungs to your liver to your kidneys to your intestines to your muscles and bones, and all the other organs I didn't mention. Also, obviously, organs don't store toxins, they transform and excrete them. Otherwise every "toxin" you'd ever be exposed to would quickly cause cancer, like asbestos, which can't be transformed or excreted.
>>77047831Dumb schitzos want to go back to the middle ages and die of an infected toe nail. Let them. All this anti pharma nonsense is damaging and i guess steroids aren't big pharma
>>77047826>hypervitaminosissays a fella that has chronic lack of all vitamins, lol
>>77049421>flambaying
>>77050428Steroids are mom and pop pharma. Bathtub chemicals, support local business!
>>77050308>Also, obviously, organs don't store toxins, they transform and excrete themTotally. That's why a smoker's lungs and an alcoholic's liver are perfectly identical to a normal persons right
>>77051387>Eating liver is the same as smokingThis must be natural selection at work
>>77051466>Things nobody said.Terrible attempt at a straw man.
>>77047656Doesn't your liver filter toxins? >cows>pesticidesFoie gras tastes like shit, the more I eat food that tastes like shit the shittier I will become.
>>77051387I'm a dooctor and smokers and alcholics are actually healtyhy the :"normal people"
>>77051515Where did you heg your degree from ? Medical University of Karachi ?
>>77051515>I'm a dooctor>healtyhy the :"normal people"
>>77051387Smokers' lungs are indistingusihable from non-smokers'. The ones you mean have been colored for, and I shit you not, "educational purposes".
>>77051517>>77051519Whatevz, I;m still a dooctor just doinga home studies on alhocol and it's cogntive effects - Ph.d
>>77051521Lol OK bro
>>77048124https://www.360researchreports.com/market-reports/vitamin-supplements-market-203875The vitamin supplement market is a $69,911,000,000 USD industry, globally. 3.8 billion vitamin supplement bottles sold in 2023 alone. Are you really trying to argue that this isn't a major income source for these companies?
>>77051523>>77051515Mike?
>>77051544>>77051544Most of the vitamin industry is actually selling "natural" bullshit to retards like you. Theres no approval or checks required to sell a supplement. And yes even then, the actual drugs of a pharma companies matter 1000x more to the company. That's why even drugs that only affect a few thousand elderly white goyim get ads and not fucking vitamin C pills lmfaoTaken ur ivermecrtin, Nebraska retard?
I see all this talk about "beef" liver, but how about "chicken" liver?I have a tub of that for, like, $2.Just as good?
>>77051387Maybe you shouldn't eat the beef liver of cows who chain smoke and binge drink, then, retard. I'm obviously talking about the normal function of healthy organs, not the dysfunction of diseased organs.
>>77052663Cows live healthier lives in the US than chickens do. They eat better and live in better conditions for most of their lives. So, since the liver is the vitamin storage organ, their livers will be more nutrient dense. Either way, though, beef or chicken liver are good to eat, and I would highly recommend.
>>77052684>I would highly recommend.Thanks for the positive feedback!I was actually eating a "5oz chicken liver + coleslaw" 2 egg omelette when I typed that, which I just finished and am sipping on my fresh not-from-concentrate orange juice, too.It motivates me to cook up the rest of my chicken liver tub before next weekend (and buy some more)~
>>77052684I'd be interested on the evidence for this. It sounds very interesting.
>>77047656Is beef liver that much better nutrition wise than lamb?
>>77052858Not even comparable
>>77052771The evidence about which part? How animals are raised? Conventional chickens in the US are born and raised in factory farms. Conventional cows live most of their lives outside on pasture and then go to CAFOs to get fattened up for a few months before slaughter. This is common knowledge, but you could also easily look this up.
>>77053030So can you provide some reputable sources detailing this
>>77047820sonot only does beef liver miss half of all Minerals / Vitaminsbut you also have to worry about Hypervitaminosis A>Vitamin A tolerable upper intake level is 3000 μg/day>16899UI =~ 5500μgso 100g liver is already way too muchKEK
>>77053138In practice, that doesn't happen. I've eaten 12 ounces of beef liver at once and nothing happened to me. I've done this multiple days in a row. Mechanistic speculation is not the same as in practice effect.
>>77053162>12 ounces = 340ghad to fucking look up your imaginary units>I've done this multiple days in a row. vitamin absorption is vastly different from individual to individualyou can get lucky... or you don'tand going over the limit once is a nothingburger anywaybut OPs intention is to eat liver daily/weekly, which would absolutely lead to a hypervitaminosis>Mechanistic speculation is not the same as in practice effect.there's nothing mechanistic nor speculative about max of 3000 μg/daythat value is based on clinically observed cases of hypervitaminosis A
>>77053065I'm honestly not sure why you're asking me for "reputable sources" to explain how modern farming works instead of just looking it up yourself. I don't know what "details" you're looking for. Why don't you try starting with Google or ChatGPT or Wikipedia?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poultry_farminghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_cattle
>>77053297>but OPs intention is to eat liver daily/weekly, which would absolutely lead to a hypervitaminosisHow many people every year in the US suffer from clinical hypervitaminosis due to weekly beef liver consumption?
>>77047683you can do it in water too, it's just to get some of the blood flavor out if you're not keen on that. i think the milk helps when you fry it, too, since older recipes for pan fried fish tend to have you dip them in milk or cream
>>77053645Come to my clinic and we'll use you as a test subject
>>77047656I bet this shit is real good for you but something about eating organs just grosses me out
>>77053765Liver tastes meh but goat brain is yummy.
the only time i had liver (and heart) was when i first started deer hunting and decided to save them from the first deer i shotidk anything about anatomy so i just sliced them up and stir fried them heart was fine but the liver sucked because there was some membrane i ddint know about that you were supposed to remove kek
>>77053890I prefer pig rectum
>>77050428I don't think it's that hard to dig the toe nail out with a pick and then dip it in alcohol and flush vigorously with boiled water. The only people dying to that were retards. The only people who need to go to a primary care doctor for something like that today are also retards.
>>77051524Yeah, keep falling for the advertising, I'm sure your mega dangerous tobacco will surely make you blind or turn your feet green... any day now.
>>77053632I accept your concession since you're using Wikipedia as a source that you consider "reputable"
>>77054240>>77051524
>>77053632>Asks for reputable sources.>Go ask the large language model that told people to put Elmer's glue on pizza.>Also, here's a source that's literally not allowed to be used in any academic studies or literary discussion.
>>77054403>>77054408quit whining nigger, you can literally find the sources to all the information in the wikipedia article in the wikipedia article. if you were interested in sources you'd have found about 100 by now. if you need them spoonfed to you go ask chatgpt to provide sources for the posts claim and any counterevidence and weigh it yourself. you're literally asking another human to do what has already been optimized for you by thousands of humans and machines
>>77054428Sorry you're so upset. Anyone who makes a claim owes evidence and you should be ready to submit primary sources if you expect anyone to take what you say seriously. Since you can't do the absolute minimum for a constructive discussion around scientific and nutritional matters, you're dismissed. I didn't even read your post.
>>77054431>claim to be interested in sources>be actually not interested in sources whatsoeveram i the only person with a dick and balls in this thread?
>>77054450Didn't read this either. Going to hide your replies and posts now, since you're just going to continue to respond angrily with no actual sources to back up your claim.
>>77047656Sounds good. Where do you get your and how much do I need daily?
>>77054454the only claim i made was >you can literally find the sources to all the information in the wikipedia article in the wikipedia article.the sources for this claim have already been posted. gz go verify?
>>77054431>constructive discussionYou are autistically refusing to discuss anything, making this conversation unconstructive.>scientific and nutritional mattersThe lifecycle of an average chicken and cow in the US is not a scientific or a nutritional matter. You don't even know what we're talking about anymore. What is motivating you to constantly refresh this thread and immediately reply with arbitrary goofiness?
>>77050297>>77048617Samefag
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>>77055265Nice inspect element
>>77055271Lol faggotNot once on this site have I ever been correctly accused of samefagging
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>>77048132>Much cheaper and tastier than the grocery storeI keep hearing these claims but every time I see local farmers selling stuff, it's overpriced and no better.
>>77056824Where, at a farmer's market? I call a farmer and a slaughterhouse directly on the phone. They sell direct to consumer. That's very different than the average farmer's market, which, I agree, is usually more expensive and not that much better quality than what you find at a good grocery store.
>>77057664When I asked farmers if I can buy directly from them, they just refer me to their overpriced farmer markets or say they don't offer this at all. I guess I need to try some more.
