Holy fuck kratom withdrawals are fucking gay.I'm trying to taper from 2 grams per day. Down to around 45 the last couple days. Will cut down today. I have to get off before I go to France in July where its illegal.Taper tricks? Supplements? Sr17018 source? I can't find it at a reasonable price anywhere...
>>77057658Also the gym has kept me going bigly thru this. Keeps me from redosing in the evening.
>>77057658Why would a country test you?
>>77057701It's illegal in France. I cannot purchase it there.
>>77057711Oh ok well then go cold turkey because aside from being a severe alcoholic or heroin junky cold turkey won’t kill anybody it’s all mental.
>>77057913Nigger I have a job. I can't crawl in a cave for a week.
>>77057658Imagine being addicted to gas station pulls... LMAO
>>77057658dude no offensive but i think youre really fucked, if you only have OTC stuff then you just gotta take tudca (for liver protection) and a shit ton of painkillers, might have to mix them even along with melatonin, calm powder "magnesium powder you put in a drink to help you relax with anxiety and sleep better" and caffeine during the day, caffeine pills are dirt cheap. Also magnesium spray or oil on your feet will help with anxiety a lot too along with ashwaganda and L carnitine ace.If you can get prescription stuff at least something like lexapro can help with anxiety but it takes a while to kick in.
>>77058195I'm just tapering off its not that crazy...
>>77058001>in FranceYou can go off sick for years in France on full pay. No one is going to give a shit. They’ll assume you’ve gone skiing or something
>>77058235Jesus dude... reading comprehension. I'm an American planning a vacation to France.
>>77058001A WEEK ? IT ONLY TAKES A WEEK TO DETOX? holy sweet babby jesus christo man the fuck up already and gut it out
>>77058245Not him, but where does your post say you are olanning a vocation there? Every normal person assumes you are going there for work or studies because lowlife junkies normally don't have money for a travel and usually go to the regions where they can take drugs cheap.
>>77058266OP must really enjoy gay sex.
>>77058224>Not that crazy Lol you aren't gonna make it tranny
>>77058248No I would say like 10 days pretty acute then 60-90 days of PAWS. I'm a lawyer i can't have the flu for a week and dissappear. >>77058313Already am>>77058266That's not really the detail that matters here
>>77058322False retard confidence. Once an addict always an addict, pathetic and gay
>>77058245Where did you say that? >>77058322>lawyer >I can’t disappear on my vacationYou’re addicted to trucker pills. No one is going to care about whatever speeding ticket or ambulance chasing “case” you’re on. Why are you doing work stuff anyway?
>>77057658>Pressing the give me free dopamine button on your brain with addictive substances and then suddenly stopping isn't pleasant..
>>77058345Correct, thats why I made a thread asking for mitigation tools. Thanks for joining us.
>>77058417Please explain to me what you think the point of my post was.
>>77058422Ironically to get a hit of sweet sweet dopamine by being a smary cunt and get a (you)
It makes me feel good to know that as low as I've gone I've never been addicted to gas station percs lmao
>>77058562I just can't imagine making a post about being addicted to kratom (lol lmao kek) and then acting like a total bitch faggot in the thread. You just have zero self awareness it's fascinating honestly
>>77058594Or become a lawyer which is the scummiest job going
>>77058615>Shitpost Through the Pain: An Anon's Journey to Wellness
>>77058615Relax pal, don't be so sensitive. >>77058620A little rude. I represent father's in divorce and child custody. Are you saying they shouldn't have advocates?
>>77058629>sorry about your kid bro i didn’t know the judge was such a bitch anyway I was off my face on trucker candies for the hearing and now I’ve got to go to France brb
>>77057658Two grams is like not that much or am I going crazy
>>77058633Kratom isn't inebriating. It's like saying you were fucked up off coffee.
>>77058648Oh kek I meant to say 2 ounces lmao ~60gpd
>>77058266>junkies usually don't have moneyLol clueless sheltered baby boy
Assuming you work monday-friday, taper your dose down during weekdays, then don't take any from after you got off work on Friday until Sunday night (or Monday morning once you can handle the withdrawal well enough to get enough sleep Sunday night). That will help you lower your doses way faster.Get a doctor to give you Zofran and the nausea will be greatly reduced. What other symptoms are you having trouble with?>>77058266>junkies don't have money but they have jobs that send them abroadyou are dumb.
>>77058629Nobodys sensitive but you kratom boy
>>77058747Its really the restless limbs at night that is a killer right now. I have not gone into full withdrawals but I like the idea of whites knuckling on Saturday to reduce dose. I suspect I will have the typical flu like symptoms on the days I dont dose.
>>77058629Kratom addicted divorce lawyer. Fucking grim lmao
>smiling reddit
OP, I withdrew using naltrexone and it kicked me into precipitated withdrawal because I figured just ripping the bandage off would be better than tapering and risking a slip up. Huge mistake. It was the absolute sickest I’ve ever been in my life; the physical sickness/body symptoms were out of this world and the mental effects were debilitating. I lose 15lbs in two days and didn’t sleep for two whole nights. Freezing/sweating, throwing up bright green and yellow, “kicking” (the restless limbs), insane anxiety, and auditory hallucinations. It was absolutely brutal.But I was taking the 7-oh tablets and had done like 250-300mg the day before, so I reckon it was just such an absolute shock to the system which was why it was so bad. If you taper, you will not likely feel anything close to all of that.For everybody acting holier than thou ITT, the reason I started taking it was because it absolutely nuked my baseline general anxiety. It allowed me to function better than ever, but there are no free rides.>>77058679This isn’t true. Once you build up a tolerance what you’re saying is half true, but it also definitely isn’t inebriating or euphoric like I’m assuming other opiates are (because it’s not an opiate). Kratom just made it so I could function without anxiety, but it was also great popping one after getting off work to chill out.Good luck OP. Try to get Zolfran and some klonopin from your general practitioner. They will help you out with comfort meds.
>>77058850Well I guess that's kind of encouraging to go through with my taper so I can avoid absolute hell. So far I am sticking to it and taking it slow. I have time. I can't take any scripts because I am drug tested. And I can't say oh well I needed to get off something I took because it was gray area. I dug myself a huge hole. Even sr17018 might be a dice role because I have no fucking clue what metabolites it produces and if it will show up in my hair. But I would be willing to try it if I could find it...
>>77058629Can't imagine having YOU of all people as a lawyer fucking lol
I was taking up to 60g in a day for like two years. Freaked out in the middle of the night over the summer thinking I was going to die of liver cancer or some shit because no one knows what this will do to your body. I’m still tapering since June kek. Down to 6g a day. It hasn’t been hard. You just have to lower the dose so slowly that discomfort is barely noticeable. Running and lifting also delay withdrawal by hours
>>77059306Just wait to you find out how fucking retarded doctors are.We are all just human dude. When it comes my lawyering I'm clever and motivated and if I fuck up who cares? Its all on the insurance company. (I lied about being a divorce lawyer).
>>77059315Holy shit that's a long taper. The last part is very true tho. I am able to delay my last dose until right before bed by going hard in the gym. My dose schedule rn is basically 8:30 a.m., 12:30 p.m., and 8-9 p.m.I think i found a source for sr17018 tho so I might be able to just hop off. As soon as they get it in stock.The psychological part is the hardest honestly. Sometimes you just want to catch a little buzz, you know?
>>77059345I'll give you a big bag of kratom if you sign on the dotted line without reading this contract
>>77058891>Drug tested>Private practice?except you're with the federal gov, military, or with WADA or some WADA tested sport that is.Unless you REALLY messed up and are on some state bar's compliance/addiction rehab program.
>>77059383>>77059395Noi didn't fuck up. I was addict all my life and pursuing the law gave me the motivation and opportunity to get sober. But due to the disclosures on my character and fitness (DUI, inpatient rehab), I was required to participate in a monitoring program for 3 years as a condition of my admission. I was already sober for three years when the bar made this decision and started monitoring on my own initiative in law school because I knew that is what I needed to do to be admitted.But I did fuck up drinking kratom tea. It escalated and became compulsive and now here we are. I thought it was benign because really inebriate me and it rationalized it as similar to having a cup of coffee. But ultimately I know I am risking a lot and hurting myself by taking it. So that's why I'm getting the hell off it.
>>77059415ok I'll give you a real tip. Hot showers and baths as needed to help with the withdrawal discomfort. Also you probably don't have access to it or can't get it, but if you can, clonidine.
man instead bothering with this "tapering" because wtf anyways kratom doesn't cause withdrawals you stupid pussy but anyways man. buy 2 nutmeg seeds. fresh. then crush them. then before you leave you house to go to the airport mix it with water and chug it.that'll keep you high like half the trip. by the time you sober up, you'll have overcome your withdrawal.thank me later.
>>77059493I don't have clonodine but I do have beta blockers which might help when I get to that point. I think as long as I taper slowly I'll be ok.
>>77059502Kek thanks anon
>>77057658>2 grams >OH NO SORRY I MEANT 60G A DAYbrother how are you even taking a shit? I just quit from 12gpd and I tapered down to 5 over a month before I quit for roughly 2 months now. It was 5 days of sleepless nights and I'll be quite honest with you: do not go to France if you haven't quit. You have to start tapering now because you have no clue how fast you can taper down to 0 and survive the withdrawals you'll have. Quite honestly how do you even enjoy 60gpd? Regardless when you take it again do not go back to 60 (don't use again really). You are essentially taking oxycodone. What the fuck are you doing? I started kratom to teach myself better discipline when it comes to drugs. We drink from a young age with only the satisfaction of drinking a lot so with kratom I tried to have set rules and never go past 10 (it went to 12 turns out I was measuring wrong). Good luck !
Abstinence + time. You're only at 2g/day now? You're nearly fucking there. I'm the guy who answered you in the other thread. Don't fucking take phenibut btw. If you think kratom WDs are bad, you haven't met gabapentinoid WDs, the final raid boss of drug withdrawal. Kratom is uncomfortable and sucks, but phenibut can literally make you seize, and in some cases, get organ failure and death.I played the ring around the rosie game of using phenibut to quit kratom and it fucked my shit up. You'll just end up using the other one when you eventually quit to cope in a never ending cycle. I eventually got my hands on some Ativan, which was a godsend, and made sure as hell not to get hooked on that either, using it as a short term bridge medication to quit everything. Now I'm finally free. Get your hands on a low-dose benzo to use NO LONGER THAN 2-3 WEEKS to help you quit, then throw them out and never look back at drugs ever again. Preferably a mild one like lorazepam. Don't let them give you the hardcore shit like klonipin or xanax. BTW I'm a 32yr oldfag, did you have any uncs like me in law school? I'm applying for medicine soon and idk if it'll be awkward around a bunch of 20yr olds.
>>77059536no nigga NO HES ON 60GPD HE MEANT 2OZ A DAY
>>77059518Yea i know i done goofed. The trip is in July so I'm going to be diligent with my taper, take it slow and be completely off long in advance.How long had you been taking it? When you went off from 2 grams at the end of taper did you have restless limb or were you just having trouble falling asleep? Did you use any supplements?Thats actually the part I am most scared of. Getting down to 1 oz/day is easy so far. But that final stretch is going to be a nightmare.>>77059536I graduated law school at 33. You can still go for it.And you read my fucking mind about the phenibut kek. I think I might try to get gabapentin for the last part of the taper/when I actually go off. If not maybe a 250-500mg phenibut but only as a last resort and not for longer than a week.
>>77059536Oh shit negro >>7705954960g/day is no joke. You'll want to taper that shit starting now if you want to be clean by summer. The good news is that at mega doses like that, you're hyper saturating your opiod receptors, so the initial aggressive cuts should be the most tolerable. You can probably cut 1g/day fairly painlesslessy, then start slowing it down when you get to ~15g or when your body starts fighting back at you.The final cuts always suck the most as your receptors start to free up. When you get to 15g, start cutting 2g every 3 days or so and you should be fine. You'll want to do some heavy cardio for endorphins to occupy your opiod receptors the closer and closer to 0 you get. The most important rule is to hold after every taper. You're working your way down, not up. If you cut by 2g and feel a little off, you take it on the fucking chin until you stabilize. Then once stable, make a smaller cut next time. Never panic and jump back up, and if you absolutely have to, increase only by 50% of your cut. So if you get too excited and drop 10g and start to withdrawal, only increase by 5g to stabilize. You can do this OP. Taper one week at a time, and 0g will come faster than you realize.
>>77059580Thanks for the reassurance about my age anon. And if you go for any gabapentinoid, only use gabapentin itself. I would never use phenibut for quitting drugs, it's the worst bridging medication in the world. Its tolerance curve is so aggressive, that you'll 100% feel none of the 500mg after a few days and will have crept up to 2g+ by 3 weeks. Jumping from gabapentin after 3 weeks should be fine, but even 5 days in a row of phenibut requires a taper, that's how nasty that shit is.Gabapentin is "only" a VGCC inhibitor. Phenibut is a VGCC inhibitor, a GABA-B agonist, partial GABA-A agonist (benzo), dopamine agonist, and has some serotonin activity. It makes you feel like a god, but you're literally red lining every receptor in your brain. Not the best idea when trying to quit something else.
>>77059580I managed to stop drinking 2L of 10% beer daily with kratom in January 2025. I was on 10-12g of kratom everyday from then to early December and tapered to 5g then just quit. I think I was on 5g daily with some days going back a little above if it meant curbing alcohol cravings. I had difficulty falling asleep so I had to take a lot of melatonin and generally woke up 3-4 hours later with no chance of falling back asleep. I did not have anything close to restless limb. It kind of helped me to plateau at 5g for a few extra weeks to quit. I also affirmed quite often and out loud that kratom is bad, useless and that it only hinders me. I named everything about about it: poor memory, poor sleep, inflammation, chronic dependence (I went on vacation and I had to drink everyday to not have withdrawal) and it gives you horrendous shits (no clue how u don't have compacted shit all through ur colon). Good luck again !
>>77058322> like 10 days pretty acute then 60-90 days of PAWStotal bs. I've quit cold turkey twice after being on it for about a year each time and went clean after that for about a year each also and after 7 to 8 days it was over. No "the real withdrawals happen after months actually bro!"
>>77059890>but I DID eat breakfast Not everyone gets PAWS. Some lucky few are able to even just drop months of straight high dose kratom, phenibut, or benzos and literally feel nothing. Congrats on winning that dice roll. That's why the best bet is to taper so most people don't take that chance. Paws is tied to the intensity of acute withdrawal, so avoiding any acute withdrawal is a no brainer
>>77059588Thanks anon. Its easy to be aggressive initially because of how much I was taking. But those last miles scare me. I am continuing with my taper but also looking into sr17018 for hopping off at the end.
>>77059607Yea I'm aware how nasty phenibut is lol. Apparently you can't even get the good shit anymore tho. Some anon said everything sold now is a different isomer
