/fraud/TGIRL EDITIONTREN GIRL THAT ISSIMPLE TRICK: UP YOUR TREN DOSE 2X PER WEEK TO SEE MASSIVE GAINS>Where do I start?old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index>additional info, experiences, advice, Q&A etc.previous >>77045245
I bought two 10ml Test E vials, planning on doing a 250mg per week cycle. However, Im currently on Accutane, taking 40mg ED. Can I just blast test right now or wait for the Accutane treatment to end?
>>77064150you can do both it won't effect each other positively or negatively. TRT dose thougheverbeitasitmay
Anyone ever have success with any AR type stuff? Some people say carnatine can increase androgen sensitivity, others say yeah but only if you pin like 500mg a day.
>>77064155Wouldnt that cause damages to my liver though?>TRT DoseMine is pharmaceutical graude. How about 1ml E4D?
>>77064189Accutane does more damage by itself than Test,
>>77064101up your tren dose twice a week... finally, some good fucking advice! lol
would you?
>>77064460Free? Surefor $3.5k? Hell no.
>>77064473That's the highest quality shit you can ever buy
Why are you ok with being spiritually permadyel and then just dying?
>>77064189woah this anon got pharma grade
Is there being a steroid I can eat before night.out for size muscles? I do not go gym but badmington three times every week. I just need one time
>>77064522Spinach by Popeye
Should I keep unmixed hgh powder in the fridge or room temp?
>>77064522profoundly Indian post
>>77062200You'd be surprised. Recently joined a local online group and most of the people seem to be genuinely retarded and running everything the wrong way. One fag even asked if someone could go pin his asscheeks since he had bought the gear but was afraid to pin it himself lmao. Unsurprisingly, 90% of the members look like shit.
>>77064189Most injectable roids don't damage your liver directly, they just fuck around with how it processes cholesterol which is why they fuck up your lipids. I don't know where this myth that all roids are liver toxic came from but it's really fucking stupid.
Can I continue to blast as long as my bloodwork remains good? Or should I still cruise at a prescribed time?
>>77064893To permablast forever you want full scans not just bloodwork
>>77064941How often?
The first two episodes of Frieren made me cry, is my estorgen too high or low?
>>77064964neither
>>77064978i wont fall for your onions lies
How much Nolvadex should I take for a 1 month, 200mg a week Test E cycle? I keep getting different retarded opinions.Sorry for the newfag tier question bros.
>>770650296 million IU
>>77064599fridge
>>77065213oopsit's for >>77064561
so far every time that i've tried steroids (twice) i just got fatter
>>77064893people do both things. remember there is no healthy answer in this world.>>77064963every 8 weeks would be the ideal world for many>>77064964this shit is relative. do you have any sides (high e2 related)?>>77065029READ THE WIKI
>>77065220too vague
Currently stuck on a 60kg bench plateau, thinking of a test tren cycle to break through?
>>77065222Wiki doesn't have any info on steroids you nigger
>>77064624>>77064624Your liver has to make the enzyme to break the steroid from the ester so there is some strain but probably not as much as people think
>>77065381>r/steroids wiki doesn't have any info on steroidshow did you make it to adulthood being this retarded?
>>77064101Can someone redpill me on peptides? Are there any downsides other then price? The only things keeping me from roiding are the infertility and the ball shrinking(also the heart thing).Would I fuck myself up if I ordered some test peptides and took them for a few months then stopped once I get some nice results?
HCG is some black magic shit bros. We take pregnant womens piss and turn it into an elixir that prevents roids from shrinking the balls and makes you feel extra good and horny on cycle.
>>77064101hello :)
>>77065521>go to mongolian basket weaving forum>muh roids make you infertile >everyone i know who roids has kids>half of those have multiple baby mommasThe roid birth control meme is hilarious because it’s the opposite; its good for gate keeping tho.
>>77065222>do you have any sides (high e2 related)?I don't know. I was already always tired, and had ED before gear.
>>77065521Don't listen to the other anon, gear can make you infertile.>>77065751You're retarded. Not everyone becomes infertile but it's definitely possible. Want me to dig up and post my sperm count on T? Hint: it's 0
>>77064561room temp
>>77065381Stay away from steroids. You need to be at least >60iq
>>77064621>local online groupLol do we have time pretend this is a real story?To answer the other question, the reason there are so many gate keepers is because most people talking about steroids don't take steroids. Gatekeepers like to pretend they roid by slavishly rehashing orthodoxy (for free lol).
>>77064477You're either a boomer or you read too much meso. The purity thing is roiders trying to explain away their side effects when they are taking 10iu a day for 6 months
>>77064621The gatekeeping is done to keep the retards from killing themselves. Go onto reddit and see what the zoomers are doing to themselves. 18 year olds asking about sarms and running cycles.Technically yes, you can just pin test but most of those retard zoomers just do that and don't do anything else which is what leads to premature death. They're poor and don't get ancillaries, bloods, or really anything and then drink and party like an 18 year.I can appreciate the gatekeeping. In my 30s I have the money to support this shit safely.
>>77066254fake but based
>>77064162>inb4 you end up bald but with zero muscle
>>77065521Reta/tirz/sema - very safe and worksTA1/LL37 - likely work for immune functionThe rest with either not work or encourage cancer growth
>>77064189>250mg "blast">but its pharma!you have no fucking idea what you're doing, do you?Why dont you direct your stupid questions to the faggot who told you to run this instead bothering us here?
>>77066395So none of the test increasing ones work? Or the side effects are worse for what you get then just going on test?
I had 3 burgers with fries and 2 chocolate chip cookies why am I still hungry
>>77066668That's like 2k calories, so unless you are a malnourished vietnamese PoW you should still be hungry.
>>77066418correct
>>77066668you not drinking enough water?
>>77066677I meant in a single meal not the whole day anon
>>77066756manlet detected
>>77066418Ill give you the best advice I've ever heard on /fit/.Ahem... "You fuckers will literally do anything, ANYTHING, to get yolked... except for pinning test and going to the gym"
Think im going to fail an employment drug test due to gear - is there any way I can say someone drugged me and especially if it's positive for test, tren and dbol?
>>77066883Depending on the drug test panel number it won't even look for steroids...
Any tips for managing roid acne? Back and chest are a bit gross rn
>>77066969Benzoyl Peroxide, more topical treatments and stronger ones can be prescribed, Accutane if you want to nuke it from orbit (everyone will cry about using Accutane but you want to do it before it gets super super bad)
>>77066883Are you a...>Cop>Fireman>Military>WADA tested Athlete or work for a WADA AgencyEven the 18 panel doesn't do test. https://identifydiagnostics.com/18-panel-drug-test-cup-custom-identify-health/No way the average company is going to pay up for this shit (i'd imagine it ain't cheap on the corporate end to get these tests for their employees). Unless you're that Kratom quitting lawyerfag who's been on here.
>>77064101let me ask u pathethic subhumasn this,where did u get this idea that its desirable to blast massive doses of these substances for months at a time, or longer, and to look like a fucking caricature of a human being?did you ever think about what you were doing or?
>>77067023Yes I look amazing.
>>77067027you look like a joke
>>77067050Say that shit to my face I'd beat your fucking ass.
>>77067051hahahahahahahhahaafucking clownsmuh ill beat ur ass ill beat ur asswhat a fucking pathethic hick brokeep watching foosball and tv and sitcoms bro, did you a lot of good. that's why you're sitting here hooked on some shit that you can never put down cos if you do you'll literally turn into a fucking trannyyou pathethic fucking dumb shithow's it feel when your life is literally over because you blew up your fucking biology?
>>77067053I feel like I could hit a PR right now
>>77064150>guys will accutane kill my liverReminder only a fraction of a percent of the millions who've taken Accutane see even a mild elevation of their liver enzymes100lb teenage girls take accurane at 60mg+ a day for a year and get nothing but the normal sides but every gear abusing retard is too spooked to even use a dose thats half his weight in kg. Fucking lol>>77065029When your shutdown, youre shutdown a full PCT protocol is required. The only thing to be mindful is ester size. If you only ran short esters, say Ace or prop, then you should put 7-10 days after last pin, if Enanth or Cyp, 14-20 days. And if deca or eq prob more like 3-4wks. You can always start earlier, theres no real harm besides the nolva or clomid doing nothing as the Steroids are still suppressing you. But be mindful to have enough pct drugs to run a full course. You also sound clueless as fuck, no reas9n to be this clueless with all the resources available
>>77067071hahahahahahahhahahahahahaha
>>77065958I appreciate you gatekeeping anon. Lol, genuinely.
>>77067070you can never hit that sad manlet in the face harder than life already has. hit your pr, xister
Got prescribed 100mg test and 250iu of hcg a week as a starting dose. Ill probabaly get bumped up to double those amounts. 5'7 175lbs with 14% body fat. How much of a change am I going to experience? My test levels were near the lower end of the spectrum to begin with
>>77065253why did you wait so long before you considered this?
>>77066998Cops are all juiced here in the states, not sure where you live
>>77064162>>77066386I thought it would be obvious I meant in the context of already taking test.
>>77067385my bud buys his gear from a cop lol
>>77067330kill yourself also if you were actually at the low end then you'll notice a lot after like 8 weeks. I went from 290 total t to 760 on 120mg, 155 to 175 and looked way better. Sleep got better and anxiety went down.
PATHETHICK STUPID STUPID FUCKIN GSUBHUMAN TRASHUR ALL FUCKING PATHETHIC PATHETHIC FUCKING MOSS FUCKIN DISGUSTING SUBHUMAN RAT CATTLE
>>77067594What's your bench doe
>>77067595hahahahahhaahahahahahpathethic trash
>>77064101Is it okay to take Tren or Mast without Testosterone? At least temporarily.
>>77067618i once did tren only for 7 months
>>77067618LMFAO PATHETHIC MORON literal SUBHUMAN
What should I buy in Thailand? Two days stop in Bangkok, can pick some pharma-grade shit. Test, var, hcg and pct? Risk of bringing it in checked luggage is still lower than risk of buying indian bathtub crap…
legit hypogonadal. prescribed 160mg/week. still only 350ng/dL. next order arrives soon, so almost three months in now. still feel like shit. wtaf? when will those chinks sell oils again so i can perma blast my way into normalcy. apparently i'm gonna need a gram a fucking week if i want mid range tt. fml
>do more and more research into roids>haven't taken the plunge yet>don't want to go crazy, just get *anything* that will give me noticeably higher gains >but everything that works fucks with your hormones badly and requires a shit load of other stuff to mitigate side effects>if it doesn't, it's a copeso there are no real options except hopping on test, huh?
>>77067696Yeah pretty much.
>>77067696Unless you’re going for weightloss specifically, then you’re better off just running retatrutide
>>77065694>We take pregnant womens piss and turn it into an elixirYeah, and there are people who ask, "why would the elites under jewish influence kill babies for adrenochrome instead of making it in some labs or something?" Many people don't realize that A LOT of medicine and supplements get harvested from either human or animal corpses or some other organic stuff. Why creating long and expensive production lines when living bodies excrete these compounds already? HCG from piss of women and animals. Heparin from pig and cow intestines. Pancreatin from pigs. The list goes on.
>>77066969>>77066983Accutane is the only thing that works for meI'm prone to acne and have it on my shoulders even without roidsWith roids my face gets destroyed without accutane
>>77067594>>77067601BENCHODE MADARCHOD WHY DID YOU REDEEM??????? MISTER GANDU I SAID DO NOT REDEEM!!!!! BETICHOD MADARCHOD MISTER FUCKER!!!!
>>77067696>but everything that works fucks with your hormones badly and requires a shit load of other stuff to mitigate side effectsYeah>there are no real options except hopping on test, huh?What else did you expect? I mean oral steroids and sarms exist, but it's a waste of time mostly. And the sides are the same anyway
>>77067167Mentioning an actual risk isn't gatekeeping. Quit trolling you faggot.
>>77067910IF YOU INJECT EVEN 1MG TESTOSTERONE IT SHUTS DOWN UR NATURAL PRODUCTION FOREVER YOU ARE FUUUUUUUCKED
>>77067912That's not what I said
>>77067912bro you left your cruise control on
>>77066998Wait. Cops and military don't/can't use steroids in the US?
>>77066883>positive for dianabolLolLmao"Well anon, you've been using some Dianabol, right?" Karen from the HR
>>77065955If you don't have any famous sides of high e2, you're fine. Read the estrogen book/guide on the reddit wiki
>>77067618I can't see why leave test out of the party. Use a small dose if you don't like it.
>>77067662I went from 200 to 1000 tt using 100mg week (premium ugl brand). Wtf are you guys injecting?
Ok, preferred spots for edPecsDeltsVGGlutesI HATE QUADS BUT I WANT ALL THAT SPACE BROS
hahahahahahahahahahajus came to fucking laugh at you pathethic literal fucking losersenjoy that shit "life" you think you're living you fucking sad sacks of shit, fucking cartoon characterss, fucking 50 iq literal fucking garbagewhy are you even alive bro? do you realize what you did to yourself?hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahthe funniest shit is, you think you're flexing and you did a goodbro, reality is gonna fucking SMACK you one day and you'r egonan literally cry, and then 80% chane your'e gonna convert to a fucking trannyenjoy
>>77068116No one can use steroids, dummy. They're prohibited everywhere in the world
>>77068120>Well anon, you've been using someThere are a lot of people thinking of le ebil steroids the same as of hard drugs like heroin
>>77068152>edEd implies low dose. Why not subq?What are you even pinning?
>>77068141a prescription from a compounding pharmacy i got through a trt clinic in the us! shit's gotta be better than chinese gutter oil, right?!
>>77068212>imagine doesn't understand what is a medication (steroids). Kys please and never talk to me again
>>77068239Lmao look this retarded, imagine being so fucked that you need 2g of testosterone to reach 500 tt. Don't answer anyone here anymore please. No one cares about your opinion.
>>77068239>TRT CLINIC
>>77068116You can't unless prescribed, but they (DoC not mil) generally check for actual steroid lipids not "Oh your testosterone is really high!" so you can do test without fear.
Does coke count as social /fraud/?
>>77068315I think that can be counted, stimulants in general are great for social frauding if you have problems finding things to talk about, but for some; downers like benzos can be superior for social frauding due to your anxiety blocking you from speaking at all as in my case.
>>77068152Add lats, tris and traps>>77068223Low dose? I’m sometimes running over a ml a day on cycle (bullshit compounds dosed at 100 mg/ml). ED injections are almost mandatory.
>>77066863I go to the gym but I don't know about the pinning test part, I like having big nuts and a working heart.
>>77068353Cardiomegaly comes from people blast and cruising test, tren and dbol for decades sitting at 140kg lean. A few test cycles in a lifetime won't do any harm.
>>77068341 Are triceps and traps painful, anon? I hate pip
Should I start with 250MG a week or 500mg a week of TEST E?I get a lot of mixed answers.>bruuuuh 250mg is TRT>bruuuuh 500mg is overkill>bruuuuh 500mg is too muchWhat should I doooooooooooooooooo
>>77068759500mg a week, do NOT inject once a week do it every other day or every 3 days even if its enanthate. Have AI on hand for estrogen
>>77068781Yeah, Im aware of that, planning on injecting E4D.>500mg a weekEven if Im a "beginner"? I started lifting Dec 2024.>AI on handIs Anastrozol/Arimidex enough? Aromasin is expensive af where I live.
>>77068759250 is not trt. under 200 is. often 150, tops. 500 is a baby blast. do 750, or 720 for easy math. if youve got 200mg/ml, take 1.8ml on monday, and 1.8ml on thursday. take 0.5mg arimidex on pin days
>>77068152>>77068341Agreed on lats, with debeloped lats (which you should absolutely have if youre a body builder) they can readily take as much as the delts, maybe a little less albeit. Tri's are good too, but keep the volume low 1cc at most. Traps are iffy, only did one shot of there and it defintelt hit a nerve as it immidiatelt burned like I never experienced, and its an awkward shot. >>77068315Doesn't coke only last like a half hour? How tf are you going to use that to social max? Have fun with it but its not a low inhib max drug. I dont need that crap, but ive heard pregab is the standard there.>>77068353Like other anon said, the "heart issues" steroid users get is just if your 300lb+ and mostly lean. Muscle tissue requires significantly more oxygen and strain on the heart compared to fat, irs why even turbo fat fucks of 400lb can make it to 60. >muh nuts500iu hcg/wk and stfu>>77068759Newbie cycle should just be Monday Thursday 1cc shot of whatever Test E or Cyp you have access to. Assumed concentration of 200mg-300mg/ml.Anything below 400mg test youre just wasting your time and better off staying natty
I can only fap 3 times a day now. Its over
>>77068152If you are pinning every day then go subq there is no reason to be building up scar tissue in your muscles like that
>>77067800>>77065694In this case, modern HCG is made inside hamster ovaries of all fucking things. No different than vaccines.
>>77068972The point of rotating sites is to minimize scar tissue. If youre hitting a site once a week or even less frequently with a small needle (say 25g or smaller) the scar tissue risk is irrelevant. Subq can work for TRT or pinning low volume like Tren Ace or something but when on blast and you have to inject 5+cc a week, toure going to need proper IM shots.
I dont know it was, but the combo of 20mg SLU, an earlier workout, a full night's rest (7 when I usually get 5), 300mg caffeine, and 50mg Anadrol made this workout fantastic. Has to be one of those too because I haven't taken a rest day in like a month. The 2g of injectables is doing Lil sum too I guess.
>>77069002Its weird how I hear this repeated so often when it makes no sense. 5ccs a week can be done EASILY subq. Inb4 you are going to tell me you have zero bodyfat to pin.
Does anyone inject test C in MCT oil subcutaneous?I recently started and have been injecting subq in the glutes and I get painful lumps at each injection site that hurts when you push it for days. None of the lumps are hot/red btw.
>>77069206So then do it faggot. I don’t like the extra discomfort or unsightly lumps that go along with sub q and my cycles often end up with 1 ml+ daily injections. Of course you can blast injecting sub q, it’s just objectively worse. But if you like it then do it and stop fucking yapping about it
>>77069330Its objectively better though. The only reason to do IM is if you are unwilling to inject daily. Its your pain though have fun lol
>>77068968I can tell my body is getting used to my Tren dosage because I went from actually 1hr+ gooning about 6 times a day versus now I go to bed without even cranking it, then I wake up 3 hours later, crank it, nap another 3 hours, maybe crank it and start my day.
>>77069316I do grape seed oil and I got the lumps pretty consistently for the first month or so and it eventually stopped. It might be that I got better at injecting slowly or my body was having an immune response but now it has decided to quit doing that. I even had red lumps that were warm to the touch but I guess turned out not to be infection or the infection was cleared by my body without intervention I dont know.
>>77069394Did you massage the area? Do you warm the oil at all before injecting?I've got some plain MCT oil that I was going to inject to see if its the oil or something else in there
>>77069438Nah I don't do any of that. Just make sure you are injecting slowly, I think if you burst blood vessels internally you will get a big lump from that too. Otherwise yea the oil might just not agree with you.
How does 20mg tren ace and 50mg sustanon ED sound for a 7 week first cycle? I've never done more than 280mg/wk of test, but I'm already on trt so not worried about a pct. Planning on running this once I get to sub 15% bf and dropping reta from 2.5 to 1mg per week.
>>77069811That's a good tren dose but never touched sust
Are low test+ var cycles still the go-to for first/second blast? 250-ish+ 50 var?
>>77068223>>77068341>>77068963>>77068972>>77069002Thank you bros. Yeah, I REALLY wanted to do only subq, I hate IM. But I didn't get a good experience trying it in the past. Dermatologically and lab numbers wise. I know it's a topic that has been discussed extensively, but that's the way it (not) worked for me. Unfortunately. Subq is so convenient.Anyway, ED is good not only for mega doses, but to keep the levels steady. I like to optimize every retarded aspect of this thing.
>>77069903No, be less of a retard.
>>77070046Elaborate? I’m very low IQ, use shorter words. What’s a typical starter dry cycle these days?
>>77070073I am on 500mg test/wk + 25mg var/day thinking about going to 50mg var but I just don't get the hype of it so far. Maybe I should do it pre workout.
>>77069903first cycle consensus is around 400-500mg testo c/e only. You need to learn how your body responds to testosterone only and need to learn how to manage sides (from the testo/one compound only) from it (e2 etc).Second cycle you add one more only. Some people add oxandrolone (var), some people add nandrolone (deca or npp), etc etc
anyone else sick of faggots treating gear like it's some mythical potion?I used to try and tell people taking gear is like using protein supplements, it's a tool that you'd be stupid not to leverage if you want to get big.Now I just tell people that gear is super dangerous and you could drop dead at any moment. Just another idiot to mog
>>77070103I claim natty and they can't prove I am not.
>>77070132based
What's the crossing line to add insulin when taking HGH? 3, 4, 5, 8, 10, 15 20 iu daily I need to start add insulin to the "protocol" as well?I didn't start anything. Just curious.
>>77070177when blood sugar bad
>>77070177when your IGF-1 no longer responds to increased HGH
Tren paranoia hitting me hard, I know my girl aint finna cheat on me but shieeeet that bitch is bad.
>>77070198like what (in numbers)? >>77070217how does one know that?
>>77070081First I did was like six years ago, pretty sure I did slightly higher than 500, I think 600-ish. Tore my shoulder like a retard benching 2.5 pl8s, pct’d out.Finally fixed it with peptides and can buy var in Thailand for basically fifth the online price, it’s too tempting. But I don’t want to run anywhere close to 500 again, feel like gyno would get me this time. Hence the 250 question
>>77070335I am curious about tren paranoia, is it always specifically about female infidelity or can you get it about other things like do people get tren paranoia about losing their job so they do overtime or something
>>77070415Sure, there's this strong position today that preaches low doses (like 250). You'll never know if you don't try it.
>>77070417I've never had any paranoia on tren, just road rage. Then again my gf is a fat ugly retard so I don't need to worry.
Natty here (for now) Been on 3iu hgh for 6 weeks, igf-1 just came back at about 400, from my 200 baseline level,Z score now 2.4Feels good,Now to add 250mg test c
>>77070631>natty>been on hgh
>>77070742Semantics. I already said I’m going on gear, it’s not like I’m in denial. I just said it as a way to denote that I’m not on AAS in addition.
>>77070579Perfect. Now to clench my butthole smuggling var brazenly through Qatar and I’m good
>>77070631No more raw sex, anon
>>77070773What do you mean?
>>77070782Unless you want kids. HCG makes your lazy swimmers into homing missiles with latest DARPA upgrades.
>>77070813It’s HGH not hcg
>>77070417I am always worried about my job but I don’t care that much, I have only paranoid about her but even then I KNOW it’s just paranoia because she is a NEET and I know how she works, probably a <5% cheat chance. But it’s a voice in my head saying “Oh look she sent you a picture of her and her friend at dinner, who else is there? that’s a big table that sits more than 2, she looks really good I bet she gets hit on everywhere wearing that.” I know it’s unfound paranoia but in my head it makes sense even though I know. Definitely going to have to remind her who owns her pussy when she gets home.
Anyone know a good source for: t3+t4, pregnanalone, Progesterone, DHEA in AU?
>>77064101I really am curious before I start how do you actually keep your estrogen balanced. Because in case I turn out to be a high aromatizer, now I have to take AIs which will nuke it below normal range, no? Seems like you would just be yo-yoing between extremely high and low estrogen all the time, which would fuck you over. At least thats my presumption
>>77071020Over time the levels of testosterone as well as whichever AI you take reach a steady state (assuming consistent dosing regimen and depending on the half lives of the drugs), at which point the E2 levels will reach a steady state as well depending on the levels of AI, test and your baseline aromatase expression, it's basic PKPD
>>77071020Don't overstress it. Ideally get bloods a month in and see if you need an AI.
>>77070862I'm fucking illiterate, muh bad
>>77069362I do inject daily, I never get pip from IM, I would have to do multiple SQ injections due to oil volume and SQ gives me painful lumps that take days to go away. It sucks if you need to pin more than 10 or 15 units a day. I don’t know anyone irl who considers SQ a legitimate option for blasting. It might work if you’re running tiny amounts but good luck if you want to run over a gram or use low concentration oils.Also, in what way is it objectively better? I’m curious about why you think this because bioavailability is actually a bit lower subq. I assume it’s because the absorption is slower which frankly just doesn’t matter, especially if you’re using long esters. The difference between daily IM and daily SQ is essentially nil in terms of blood level stability.
>>77069811The sust won’t even have reached stable blood concentration at 7 weeks. If you’re going to cycle for that brief of an interval go with test p instead.
Just got three vials of Test E. Doing my first injection tomorrow. How much should I do? 125mg or 250mg per week (half monday and half thursday)?Been on gym for one year so I already know how to lift shit
>>77071183250mg every 3.5Days will net you 15 weeks cycle which is probably a good introduction, unless you want to be more cautious and run 250mg/wk if you’re worried about estrogen side effects. How lean are you currently?
>>77071220Im 6'1, 170 lbs 11% BF as of now.
>>77070749It's alright anon. Just goofing off.May God bless you and your cycle
Anyone know what a 'reasonable' tren length is? Love the compound more for being a horny confident bastard than the gains so would like a good duration. Should I really stick to 8 weeks like reddit says?
>>77070911Nah. Nothing is happening. Calm down, just remember that you need to keep it cool. It's the trenbo.If you can't keep calm about these thoughts stop the trenbo and change the ester. People say different things about ace/hex/enanthate. Ymmv
>>77071183>LanderlanIs it good? Based Brazilian bro
>>77071156I'd up my sustanon dose a few weeks before starting the tren and run it a little longer. Probably 12 weeks total. Currently on 35mg sustanon ED.
>>77071241We’ll see, I am on week 10 of Tren E and never really had any other paranoia or schizoisms besides now. I am mentally stronger than Tren.
>>77071357What dose? Also give pic of wife and I'll give an unbiased view of her faithfulness
>>77071357Up your tren dose just to be sure it's not making you paranoid
>>77071237at a gram i'm an insufferable asshole by 10 weeks. at 300mg it's whatever. cant even tell i'm on it, other than good gains. another dude on here's been doing 1.5g for a while now. plenty of others on forums 700+ for years. just take some bp meds, statin, fish oil, tudca, nac, and blast til you're past. reddit is full of nancy boys giving terrible opinions. even ghoul isnt as big of a tard as them, and nobody likes ghoul
>>77071388400mg/wk and no she is too pure to be posted here even censored, but imagine a less whore-y Mia Stark latinx. Same face same body proportions and thiccness.>>77071406Good point, have to rule it out.
>>77071271If you’re dead set on sticking with sust, I’d at least frontload it a bit in addition to running it longer. A lot of guys just double the dose for the first week to get serum levels stable faster. I like the method of just pinning a full mL the first two or three days. Either way, I only suggest this bc the test d in sust takes forever to reach stable levels. Like 10 weeks or something and it’s 50% of the esters
>>77071425Im on 300mg. Taking telmisartan and omega 3 throughout the day. Can't source a statin or a beta blocker. Can definitely feel it though with bad sleep and sweating. But okay i won't stress 300mg for a bit longer, maybe 16 weeks max. Im well used to reddit have faggot homeopathic advice for dosing.
Is it possible to have VISIBLE ABS without flexing if you roid? They're all I want.>just lower your BF broAlready tried that, didnt work.
>>77071710Yes
>>77071710You'd need 1g tren for 4 months but it is possible
Thinking of taking enclomiphene and tadalafil for short stunts to help burn my belly fat and get slightly better lifts before the summer I only want these two because I heard my body can return to baseline fast if I stop taking them
>>77071766Neither of those have anything to do with fat loss, try again
It's time to discuss boofing tren
>>77072025Would be a waste of tren it's not activated via mucus membrane.
>>77072034discussion over then, wanna kik?
I hate fake natties more than commies
>>77072085Why thoughFake natties are based. Based for using roids and based for gatekeeping roids by pretending theyre natty for the nattytards.
>>77072090Because they're lying to my face thinking that I'm a retard who would believe them
>>77072094Do you have proof I am not natty? May I see it?
>>77072094You may not be enough of a retard to believe them, but most normalfags are. Hell, normalfags think Chris Hemsworth is natty, lmao
>>77071020i don't like taking AI. i've found 175mg to be a perfect test dose where i don't need an AI. at 200mg my dick stops working. i plan on experimenting with EQ and raising the test a little. usually i just add in another compound and let them both just do their things. i'm a fake natty and pretty happy with the results from it so far.
>>77071710One thing that helped me was doing weighted dragon flags. I have ankle straps I put weights on. I'm currently doing 30 lbs for 3x12. Works great on a bulk. I have visible abs at some thing like 17-18% body fat. Looking forward to cutting to see them pop.
>>77067696TRT is literally just added test. Yeah it shuts you down but you'll feel better. Just get HCG and pin it 3 times a week.
>>77071710What you need is ozempic, not roids
>>77071766Fuck is cialis going to do for fat loss?
>>77072198retraining my brain to associate boners with food so I only get hungry when I get boners doing the sexual with woman and that never happens so I will never eat
Should I get a P.O. Box
kek
>>77064893> Blood work> No heart imagingOnly is you enjoy lvh
>>77073027Anavar is literally a DHT derivative, if anything it'll cure ED
Can I do creatine only or do I need a tren base?
>>77073751Creatine is okay but really comes into its own with a 800mg tren base
>>77073841>>77073751dont do creatine - thats how terminal cyst acne starts
None of your forced "memes" are funny fucking faggot. Especially not reta butter or terminal acne
>>77073862idk i kinda like the reta butter arc
>>77073862Redpill me on ret butter
>>77073862Terminal acne isnt a meme tho
>>77073872>>77073874lmao the reta butter guy
>>77073922im the tirz margarine guy
Can someone suggest a good video or article on statins for bodybuilders? Last thing I watched was Leo (RIP) saying you can minimize side effects and still get some LDL reduction with just 20 mg rosuvastatin once a week, I am tempted.
>>77064893louie simmons did it for 50 years, so why not you?
>>77064964I am having the opposite issue I CANNOT watch that fucking anime its so god damn boring. I have tried restarting it like 4 times and I can never get more than like 6 episodes in
>>77074318It’s easily my favorite (and therefore the best) anime of at least the past five years, probably longer. It’s so fucking comfy and the whole point is that life is more than just what you do, it’s really about the people that you spend it with. You might just have shit taste but I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that maybe your e2 is low or you’re otherwise just not in a place to take in something like that right now. Give it some time and come back to it.
>>77074156>Rosuvastatin or Pitavasatin new standard or half standard dose>Eztememibe>Bempedoic acidWill run you $20 a month from indian pharma and will keep your LDL sub 70 even with grams of gear
>>77074471>>77074318What would Himmel the Hero do
>>77073914I look like this, should I increase my AI usage?
>>77074545But is there anything to keep your HDL up?
I spent the last 2 years fucking around with test, primo, mast, tren, dbol, anavar, mtren, HCG (1500 IU weekly), HGH (3 IU) rarely dipping below 500mg total with no labs and no extra suppliments. Went and got some done and all that happened is my HDL was a little low and HCT was on the higher end of normal. The dangers of roiding are seemingly overblown. I bet if I were eating fish a few times a week and donating blood every once in awhile my labs would have been pristine.
>>77073751TREN > CREATINE
>>77073862>>77073872>>77073922Yeah, I kinda hate and love that guy.>>77074906Nah, it's a genetic AND AGE related thing, how old are you? Younger the better to not fuck all lipids, hct, etc.
>>77075238ZASED AND TRVE GOD BLESS
>>77072099KekBased
>>77074545Im retarded, please be patient:I didn't understand your post. Do you indicate these three medicines for lowering ldl? Which dosage?
>>77074906Well the dangers are highly affected by the reality that 90% of steroid users are retards who do whatever they get given with no adjuncts, no diet refinement, no PCT and for random periods of time. People on reddit panic if someone takes their HCG a day late but have no clue of the reality. I knew a guy at 17 who used test literally sporadically for random weeks on and off permanently and even interspersed with orals when he ran out of needles. Thats the reality of normie frauding.
>>77075450You probably never used a single steroid in your life. Every steroid user knows how this shit fucks a lot of things in your health. Long term mainly. We just don't care. Everyone here is a zoomer imbecile with this "Steroids aren't so bad" meme.Half of the time the posts related to steroids are about sides.
>>77074731 please, could ai help
>>77075554Isotretinoin. And:No.Aromasin or Arimidex usually don’t help acne. Steroid acne is mainly androgen-driven, not estrogen-driven.
>>77075489Whats a steroid
>>77075568Just for clarification: They may help only if acne is being worsened by high estradiol. But probably isn't the case, as it tend to be androgen-driven.
>>77074783two grams of fish oil every day
>>77073914My face looks like his chest
>>77075489Fucking boomers bro. >you need to do 500 test MINIMUM plus TREN>what do you mean steroids arent that bad for you? They are TERRIBLE FOR YOU BUD!
2.5 day DNP, T3, Clen, Reta, cagri, cut begins today"Metabolism Reset", clearing Visceral fat, and quick debloat to see true leaness. Polypharmacy is goated G
>>77075568IDK if I should up my Tane dose because I am on day 15 of 50mg and I haven’t noticed a difference at all besides the acne turning “dry” but that could also be from the scrub cleanser I use 2x daily.
>>77075851Doing less than 500mg test for a cycle is a waste. Sure you make obscene gains on 200mg if you’re indefinitely cruising but 500mg for 4 months or so is basically the minimum dose to have an effect in that time.
>>77068759TRT is ~100mg/week500mg/week is a dose to prep people for going deeper into steroids since this is the dose where you have to learn about managing estrogen300mg/week is like 80% of the muscle gains of 500mg with 20% of the side effectsFor steroids, dose:gains is logarithmic while dose:side effects is exponential
>>77076271If youre dealing with an actual acne flareup, id recommend just riding out 1mg/kg. Im 190-200lb and have been Riding 80mg for close to 3 months now. Only recently have i seen true reduction and clearing up of the flareup. For most people serious clearing up happens 3-6months. People say to do crazy shit like 100mg/kg cumulative dose, but thats actually just some made up rule of thumb bullshit because dermatologists just wanted a standard protocol, and yeah a cumulative dose that large will nuke the acne on anyone, buts its just unnecessary. Stick the 1mg/kg until your acne clears up, then do half the dose for another month, then id drop the tane. Just maintain a low dose (say 10mg/day) if you're still on cycle or restart a cycle.
Oestradiol after 2 months on 6.25 mg Enclo is 47 pg/mL. Shall I take AI?
>>77076122How do we know how much t3 to take
>>77076503It doesn't work like that.READ THE WIKI, THE ESTRADIOL BOOK.
>>77076373>For steroids, dose:gains is logarithmic while dose:side effects is exponential100% true.
Working my way up to 15mg tirzepatide then I'll stack with semaglutide which I'll build up to 7.4mgAbsolutely dome with food addiction this year, I dont care about any side effects, none of them can be worse than getting obese again and constantly thinking about goyslop
>>77076520why are you trying to push such a high dose? you should be going for minimum effective dosage.
>>770650291 month 200mg a week test e cycle
I want die can I overdose on clenbuterol srsly
>>77076373If you’re having E issues at 500 you need to lose fat before you cycle
>>77067618it will literally give you less gains even if you only take a little bit of test.
Will primo show up on my bloodwork in any way? I don't feel like having. a convo about it with my doc. He knows I'm on "TRT"
>>77075568Isotretinoin WITH STEROIDS? Are you retarded?
>>77077079>t. Female jewish dermatologist
What are the odds that a test only cycle would lead to a permanent LH and FSH shutdown?
>>77077243100000%
>>77077267I meant after the cycle and PCT
>>77077243I would bet fucking tiny amount. The fear is that your balls only come back at 90% capacity or something. Not that you are just permanently castrated from taking some test.
>>77077243zero... people freak out over every little fucking thing
>>77076520Tirz chad here. You definitely don't want high doses of tirzepatide or reta or sema. Always try to milk every gram of it.>>77076524This.>>77077079Who said that you fucking imbecile>>77077243Zero. You are a retarded but your body aren't.
do people still do sarms or did they realise its a meme, cant remember the last time i saw someone shilling them
>>77077243RIP your balls
>>77074783feno
how do I protect myself from frame moggers at ASU if I frequent the frats?
>>77077672a gun
>>77077697I already have that though
Is it normal to only be able to sleep 5 hours on npp?
>>77072090I never get tired of telling people about my "great genes"most people who ask don't even lift.
>>77078337how much are you on? I found myself having sleep issues on just test and adding NPP seemed to make them a little better
>>77076520Like others have said, this is retarded. I'll give you a personal anecdote here. I started with 1mg of Tirz, that didn't do much at all. Maybe blunted hunger a little bit but I was basically the same. On 2.25mg (1mg + 1.25mg), my hunger is massively blunted. I can still out eat it for sure, but it's pretty unpleasant to eat big ass meals because of the gastric emptying effects. I swear my body must be processing my food in my stomach for 24 hours straight, it takes so long to get hungry. I'm doing intermittent fasting and before I could last until 3pm until I got hungry. On 1mg, 4pm. On 2.25mg, I can go as long as I want, mostly because the hunger signal isn't super strong anymore.I got nausea a few hours after I had a big meal a week ago. I have those burp/hiccups from delayed gastric emptying. The drug is on the cusp of causing negative side effects if I take more, and I'm below the usual starting dose.These drugs won't cure your food addiction btw. If you're a fat slob with no self control you will still be a fat slob with no self control, you'll just never be hungry while you're on the drug to stuff food in your face. Eventually you'll come off of it and get obese again.>>77077698Then you're g2g anon. Think about it, it's the perfect counter to a frame mogger. They literally have a wider surface area for you to target.
>>77078430Just 150. Running it on top of Test/EQ. But before I started npp I made sure e2 was dialed in. Thinking I may be unlucky with prolactin or whatever, but no mental sides.
Does 500 mg test e cause water retention even when you keep E2 very much in check?Asking for a friend
>>77078549yeah
Anyone just use oral fin when on cycle?
>>77078644I’d love to orally use Fin while on cycle
Anyone tried low dose turinabol without test? I have sky high SHBG and thought about using maybe 10mg as pwo mainly for lifting and a lot of cardio
>>77078549I'm doing that as my first cycle and I'm already 20 lbs heavier from water retention.
>>77078710Nigger no shot in hell.
>>77066150It's more plates more dates and it's not local looool
400mg test + 200mg primo + 200mg mast for 10 weeksGood stack or am I retarded
>>77078878>10 weekslol lmao
>>77078878Retarded
>>7707888115 weeks or double the dose of mast and primo
>500MG test E>dutateride 1mg+minoxidil 2.5mg+biotin 10mg ED>accutane 40mg ED
>>77078959RATE MY STACK! LFG!
>>7707896940mg ED is low we discussed this earlier in the thread ctrl+f tane
>>77078654What dose?
>>77079141it was a joke about mouth raping the crossdresser fag Finster while im on steroids
Question for my shredded bros. If you pin more than one IM injection at the same, what injection sites do you use? Or do you put it all into the same spot?
>>77079193Daily: SubQEoD: IM rotating musclesE3.5D: Rotating IMonly times I had to use the same muscle is because I wasn’t paying attention and messed up 90 degree insertion it felt more like 45, so I just pulled out went an inch right and go in again. Most muscles can absorb up to 3ml so if you aren’t flooding it no real reason to do multiple spots for one day of injection.
>tfw almost gave in and bought tren again
>mom asked me if any of my supplements increase aggression
>connect to plex server to watch a movie with the gf>VLC auto plays my tranny porn
don't do steroids
>>77079849you sound like my doctorFUCK YOURSELF
>>77079849How will I become stronk then?
>>77079841mpv bros win again
>>77079861You tell your doctor? I though they report you to your insurance company for admitting stuff like that
>>77079830dont say things like that! you'll make trenny cry
>>77079841Kys degenerate
My hrv is 98msI'm on 25mg rad140 12.5 enclo, mk677, cardarine, and like 20mg aminotadalafil, 50mg mirodenafilI weigh 285lbs at 5'9" and my heart pumps like an elite athlete, anyone want to apologize to me?
>>77079967Tubby lmao
>>77080006I prefer elite athlete niggaBring up a picture of Daniel Cormier
>>77080024elite buffet athlete
>>77078959>>7707909040mg accutane ed is low? Wtf are you talking about20mg a day will nuke your skin oil production
>>77080063Ok well tell that to people doing more than that and did not get results until 80mg ED.>t. me
>>77080073You must be a really big and oily mexican gorilla I presume
>>77080171Yes to some of that…
>>77080033Jelly of my mass retention
R8 my stack (20 weeks)>250 mg Test E/week>200 mg Deca/weekI've tested this test/deca ratio before and for me it's ideal to avoid either deca dick or excess dht>Arimidex 1 mg EoD>Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg/dayWhat am I missing?
>>77080542Statin/ezetimibe and telmisartan
>>77080360>mass
>>77080654Gotcha, thank u
>>77080788Muscle cells
I retain mass
>>77080542Why the AI dosage is so high?
>>77081477that is high? lmao
>Wanted to try new protein flavor>Accidently buy Mass GainerFUCK IM CUTTING
On 16 week test e 300mg cycle. Is tamoxifen enough for PCT? 20mg for 2 weeks then 10mgs for another 2 weeks. Or is this overkill and just do 10mg for 4 weeks instead?
>>77081542i'm not that anon, but what are you smoking that's got you thinking 1mg adex isnt high? a lot of people take 0.125mg on pin days. most i usually see is 0.5mg. 1 is absolutely high, and especially so for less than a half a gram of gear
>>77081542Yeah it is. .5mg EOD should be max.
>>77081683sounds like you need to up your tren dose
>>77081764>How about 6 weeks at 10mg?
>>77081766I misread as Aromasin as that is what I take for AI, forgot that dex was in sub mg ranges. >>77081783I was thinking of bringing it down actually...
>>77079967>I'm a fat retard on all the stupid novel busllshit This thread is for straight faggots not gay faggots like you faggot
How many 5-6 week 40mg var cycles can I safely run a year? I did 2 last year. I'm on trt long term 115mg/week, only done one blast in my life (500 test last year) and I don't plan on upping my t dose ever again.
>>77081925>can I safely run a yearnone
>testosterone in semenShould I be drinking cum
>>77081980Your body knows when it is your own so in order to maximize efficiency you have to have someone elses.
>>77081764>Pls respond
