I'm on day 16, when will I start seeing the benefits of semen retention?

>>77090699
It is dishonest and intellectually lazy for you people to come here and say "X raises Cortisol" or "X decreases protein synthesis" without ever quantifying it. You don't ever say (and don't seem to know) by how much these things are raised or lowered.

ive done nofap for months and all that happens is i get pissed off and horny, a week or two max is probably best otherwise you're just torturing yourself

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>>77090699
>you raise your Prolactin, Serotonin and Cortisol, which are a killer for a man
for like 15mins
>you deplete vitamins and minerals
you lose like 0.10 zinc when you nut
>you lose motivation and drive as sexual energy to procreate is the strongest in every organism
buddy youre on 4chan you should not procreate
>you get relaxed, unfocused and lazy since you already did your job as a manle(that's why jews used to broadcast porn on the radios during wars in Middle East, look it up)
lol you just nut and move on with your day its not that deep
>you drop your Testosterone levels slightly
oh no your test was 500 now its 495

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>>77090731
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>>77090742
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>>77090699
>>you raise your Prolactin, Serotonin and Cortisol, which are a killer for a man
You god damn genuine fucking retard. I don't even know where to begin.

First, cortisol is a fucking STEROID you stupid faggot. It's meant to rise quickly and sharply, which causes a cascade of reactions that lead to metabolic adaptation and tissue development. It's THE signal for your body to improve for the next challenge that causes its release. Cortisol is only a problem when it's elevated over a long period of time, for instance when one is a complete cuck, like yourself. And, guess what, the only way to solve that problem is with CORTISOL, since it's high cortisol release and clearance that brings about changes in the nervous system that regulate cortisol better.

Second, cortisol increases BEFORE ejaculation because it plays a role in increasing blood flow and penile sensitivity, which is why stress leads to premature ejaculation. It's not a product of ejaculation itself.

Third, serotonin receptors are key regulators of the nervous system. What matters is how the RECEPTORS respond to serotonin, which is affected by a bunch of shit. There's like a dozen and a half of them, each with different effects and functions. You don't want to mess with serotonin by lowering it, or increasing it, serotonin is just the key, it doesn't change anything about the contents of the chest it opens. The receptors are what matters and if anything is wrong with them, lowering serotonin will always, always, ALWAYS make it worse, just as much as raising it. You fucking goddamn retard.

All of this is really basic textbook stuff too. If only you could be bothered to pick up a book and read it, instead of wasting everyone's time and braincells with your mental diarrhoea.

>>77090780
Sure thing jew

>>77090699
funny how they made his chest look worse than it actually would have if he got that fat. they added fat and subtracted muscle.

>>77090699
>Semen retention is completely explainable.
Then why doesn't this ever show in a single study? Every time they study this, you get a meaninglessly small spike in test which then goes back to normal levels and nothing else happens (except now you're stressed and fidgeting because you are way too horny and no man before modern times ever lived like this except pedophile monks)

>>77091174
>study
If you believe studies then you're fucking retarded.

>>77090731
I always feel compelled to run and lift hard out of shame after fapping to the most degen thing I can imagine.

>>77090699
Once again Amerimutt prude chrsitcuck retards don't understand this thread. Classic.

>>77090699
how come regular sex-havers dont have all these problems only porn addicted incels do?
>Nofap gives makes you super confident and able to talk to women
And yet regular sex-havers talk to women all the time. That's how they get sex.

>>77091271
Because sex is a much different thing than masturbation

>>77091199
if you believe some literally who on 4chan you're fucking retarded.

>>77091282
You can't disprove anything from OP at all.

>>77091275
lol goal posts moved

>>77091284
Not at all. Sex is much different than masturbation. What don't you fucking understand you low IQ brown cretin?

>>77091283
just have sex with gf a couple of times a day and will disprove everything in the OP
oh wait, you're all incels lol

>>77091286
You said "frequent ejaculation" causes this list of problems.
I said normal people ejaculate frequently and now you're saying no its frequent ejaculation from masterbation as if your dick knows the difference.
Well anyway and at least you admit this whole semen retention/nofap thing is just shit incel losers think will cure their personality disorders

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>>77090699
>don't have sex too often or you will lose you VRIL

>>77091283
you're a retard faggot

You can't disprove the statement above at all.

>>77091416
You're just addicted. You're lashing out like a fucking junkie.

Make good friends, lift weights, read books, forward your career prospects, talk to girls

Jerking off (or a lack thereof) aren't going to fix you

>>77090717
You should’ve been able to levitate and move small objects with your mind at day 12ish. You’re either fapping in your sleep or your dick and balls are not working quite right

You can tell it works by how irrationally angry the touching their dick addicted shills and Jews get at the very prospect of you not touching your dick lol

>>77091452
>irrationally angry
laughing at a bunch of losers who think retaining semen for 1234567 days will give them the power to look a girl in the eye and say hi is not anger.
Especially when you realize that most people can already do this and dont do nofap incel shit.
You're fucked in the head and need professional help, not retarded incel memes.
But I guess its easier to not jack off than put in the actual work to overcome your mental problems.
You've got people here doing no nut november for a decade now and each year they brag about le epic discipline and call everyone else jewish porn shills and then on Dec 1 at 12:00:01am they go back to gooning to weird cartoons and say "well better luck next year"
lmao

tdlr: not a single incel ever fixed their personality disorder or became socially normal from nofap shit

>>77091435
>Make good friends
Friends are overrated

>>77091480
I feel ashamed whenever i fapped and i feel i'm losing in a spiritual way, when i retain i even bench more.

>>77091480
You need to calm down.

>>77091489
>I feel ashamed whenever i fapped and i feel i'm losing in a spiritual way,
nobody said anything is wrong about nofap for religious or moral reasons. Just stop pretending it will make you stop being an incel loser with no friends or social skills
>when i retain i even bench more.
lmao no you dont

I have a gf now but I used to be a little bit into nofap about five years ago when I was a young adult. I do think there is some (small) utility in it. Especially if you're addicted to pornography. Also, in general, it does the mind and body well to abstain from vices and build discipline in all aspects of life. It also wouldn't be great for your sex life if you're wacking off three times before you see a girl.

The problem with it is that people want the truly hard things to come easy. "If I stop wacking off I will become chad" is what they tell themselves. Actually becoming the person you want to be is actually extremely difficult and requires hard work. Increasing your confidence requires hard work. Increasing your athleticism requires hard work. Pretty much anything worth having requires hard work, and so people are desperate for an easy workaround that "the mainstream doesn't know about." Hard work is scary.

It is the same reason why people believe a lot of bullshit. Instead of learning comparable company analysis, precedent transaction analysis, enterprise value, equity value, free cash flow, capital structure, cost and return on invested capital, mergers and acquisitions, accretion and dilution analysis, etc they just want to invest in a shitcoin.

Instead of learning enzyme kinetics, metabolism, glycolysis, citric acid cycle, oxidative phosphorylation, electron transport chain, fatty acid metabolism, etc they just want to say science is fake and gay.

People are intimidated to confront the fact that they need a lot of work and want to find the easy way out

>>77091489
>Friends are overrated
4chan is literally a friend simulator for lonely and angry people

>>77091494
>I cant refute what he said so I'll use a strawman
how jewish
Just like nofap. It keeps you from getting real help because one day weeks or months from now you will suddenly wake up and be able to interact with people. But that day never comes. You'll blame it on a single relapse because you jizzed in your sleep and had to start the calendar over.
And the years go by,

>>77091507
Friend will just betray you in the end
>inb4 find better friends
I had a good friend spawn randomly in my life 3 years ago (anti-vaxx, christian, etc) but still i prefer to be alone

>>77091500
>lmao no you dont
Try benching a night after a fap session. I feel higher test when i retain and go lift. I think even athletes stop fapping before a competition or something

>>77091503
>The problem with it is that people want the truly hard things to come easy.
That's what "redpilling" means.
They think there's a secret trick to quickly getting jacked so they want "redpills" on grocery items, supplements, cold showers etc that will give them abs without doing anything.
These losers should be going to therapy to fix their social anxiety or whatever is wrong with them, but that takes hard work so they say therapy is jewish so lets do this nofap redpill instead where I literally dont have do anything at all

>>77091489
> when i retain i even bench more
Post bench

>>77091503
i agree, but also in a sense certain abstinence of a long term habit can make a profound difference.
see fasting. fasting is in a sense as easy as nofap. all you do is just abstain from one thing and you'll see some pretty crazy results.

i've only done sr once, and it was for 90 days and my energy levels were through the fucking roof by the end of the first month. it was actually uncomfortable. i didn't really see any improvements socially or cognitive. i was working out hard 6 days a week, playing drums 2-6 hours a day, eating clean (just meat and veggies), and still felt wound up by the end of it. i quit because it was too much. i should try it again though.

>>77091517
>I feel higher test when i retain and go lift.
No you dont. High test doesnt "feel" like anything and I've injected up 2 grams a week.
Anyway how long have you been doing nofap and how many girls have you looked in the eye and said hello to since you started?
Or are you still marking days off on the calendar waiting for the day that will happen?

>>77091422
Addicted to fucking what?

>>77090699
>lose motivation
I only lose the motivation to FUCK specifically. If I'm for instance working out id rather be focused on working out rather than distracted thinking about pussy

>>77091503
more or less agreed but i think it can be boiled down to a more simpler truth - the benefits people experience from nofap are primarily due to abstaining from porn and not orgasm, which in its current form is a dopamine minigun against the brain. porn sites are designed to be as overwhelming as possible with the thumbnails all stacked up, skipping through on mouse hover etc, algos self-tuning using your last watched videos and so on. then there's opening multiple tabs and switching between them, skipping around the video to specific parts, basically everything that nukes your impulse control, attention span, the way you view women or sex in general. i bet if alcohol addiction wasn't as popular as it is with countless rehab centers everywhere, there would be weird online communities talking about how not drinking makes them feel superhuman.
i had a problem with porn and nofap just made me really tense and anxious all the time. turns out it's much more effective and healthier to wank every 9-10 days instead of every day and to just switch to erotically suggestive still images or imagination instead of oiled anal videos with zoomins on the penetration etc

>>77091531
nofappers think anyone who doesnt nofap is a porn addict, They also think its impossible to jack off every now and then without looking at or gooing to porn.
Like you cant just jack off the shower every now and before you go to work. You either a nofapper or a jewish porn addict.
Very odd people.
And before the nofap incels scream this isnt the case, you people literal say this in every nofap thread.

>>77090699
Every single day the most stupid fucking shit posted by closet homosexuals obsessed with cum.

>>77091452
I did nofap for two years due to my church telling me lust was sinful outside of marriage, and i unironically wanted to kill myself during that time. It quickly got better when i got normal about sex and jerking off, and i dont want others to be misled into that line of thinking that i suffered from

The best benefit of no fap isn't physical, it's psychological. It's to break the mental aspect of the addiction to pleasure / fapping.
As such, you have to approach it from an angle of "I want control over my body" instead of "heh only X more days until I can give in and COOOOM I CAN'T WAIT TO COOOOM".
It's a similar reason fasting is good for you (fasting has many other physical health benefits I could write entire posts on).
By truly gaining control over your libido, you also severely limit the control women have over you, the benefit of which can not be understated in today's world. Fapping may alleviate the physical desire for them, but does little for the deeper yearning, that's something you have to make conscious strides towards handling (in healthy ways, trauma will get you there quickly but good luck with that)

>>77091539
eggsactly.
But trying to cure a porn addiction with nofap is guaranteed failure.
If you get the urge to look at porn, you just rub one out and it goes away.
Porn addiction and nofap are just the 2 sides of the same incel coim.

>>77091518
absolutely. manosphere's version of being a busy idiot
>>77091556
see >>77091551

>>77091551
That line of thinking was due to a mismatch between the internal and external.
Internal wanted fap, external wanted no fap.
You "solved" the issue by bringing your internal into lines with the external, i.e. fapping is okay.
It would have been equally fixable by tuning your internal into the external. I truly have no desire to fap these days, it has nothing to do with "it's a sin oh no".
I'm not saying everyone should, I'll leave that to others / not the right post for it, but everyone can if they actually desire to.

>>77090699
abstaining from ejaculation lets your body make magic brain serum. look at the biochemistry of it- i am 100$ serious. i plan to produce the magic brain serum this month (and next month) because i'm working on some heavy shit and need that mental edge and because it's lent and it pleases the LORD. that (planned) lapse with the missionary thread on /gif/ last night quite was intentional. there were no kidney stones in teh goop. i'm good to go. also the glowniggers who watch you masturbate at cu-ck-old faggots.

>>77091556
>By truly gaining control over your libido, you also severely limit the control women have over you,
Women dont have any control over you because incels dont interact with women.
This is just incel cope. If a man lets women "have control over you" then you're just a bitch and it has nothing to do with nofap.
Sounds like you're literally shitting down your libido because you know no woman will ever touch you and that fact feels less painful if you're never horny.
>"I want control over my body"
And you will still be never able to have a conversation with a stranger without the anxiety making you quickly end the interaction and run away.

>>77091529
>how many girls have you looked in the eye and said hello to since you started?
I'm not a sub5 so i talked to more than 20 women in the last 4-6 months for sure, and i went on a date (walk with dogs) with 2. I surely had the opportunity to even hook up with a few of them but I didn't. Also lately for some reason women at the gym hold eye contact with me and they won't let go, they are WAY more horny than usual. And also i treat women as normal human beings and i'm not weird around them, I even helped a milf today who needed help adjusting the leg press seat (she asked me to)

>Anyway how long have you been doing nofap
So from June 2025 I lasted until late Oct25 so it was like 120 days or something and relapsed, then i had 2-3 week streaks after it until 2026.

In mid Jan this year i somehow got addicted again and i was horny 24/7 so i was fapping every other day until early feb but now i'm back on the streak. I also fell for the use it or lose it meme. But overall from my own expirience i'm basically non-functional when i fap and i feel like a beta, even the people around me feel my energy when i'm in a fapped state

And one last thing, i have two close friend, one retains forever (he is doing it since 2022 without relapsing yet) and my other friend is a gooner who retains every month for a week, and I can feel a shift to his energy when he retains. When he goons you can feel he moves like a zombie i can't explain it

>High test doesnt "feel" like anything and I've injected up 2 grams a week.
Wdym? Weren't you more horny? Stronger in the gym?

>>77091521
i only do 2pl8 but im only 75kg


But anyway no fap works (for me) and (you) should just try for a week.

>>77091575
Not certain if you're telling me to see the post because it agreed with me or disagreed with me; I could read it either way.
He did it for 2 years in an internally oppressive environment and wanted to kill himself. No surprise things got better when the self raised mental shackles fell.
"I want self control" != "It's a sin I can't help it but I want to aaaa"

>>77091529
If I go trvcel for a week I started taking to girls and approaching them.
I don’t do this if I am fappedout.

>>77091585
>couldn't do nofap for decades, can barely last 4 months
ain't taking advice from a weak nigga

>>77091578
I've had multiple relationships where the women approached me first, you're assuming a lot of me.
I just got tired of expending so much energy on it.

For the women part, I meant control in the sense of "body automatically gets aroused when sight of attractive woman in tight fitting gym clothes comes into sight" more so than not being able to withstand their requests or whatever.
Your entire post is just setting up a strawman to attack. Enjoy your empty victory against the incels in your head and the need to feel superior to them.

>>77090699
There's no point to this. You're preaching to people who are addicted to staring at shadows in a cave. They'll only resent you for it.
You also forgot to mention:
>tanks dopamine, which is a limited renewable resource.
>reduces androgen receptor density

>>77091585
> I can feel a shift to his energy when he retains
fucking gay sounding, you all have a problem with porn and not jacking off ffs
>>77091595
yes, not blasting your brains with videos of women getting railed by other men every day makes a less weird, normal person. who knew?

>>77090778
>>77090782
>>77091452
>jews are afraid of us ! they want to keep us addicted to porn because we are easier to control that way and cant start a revolution, MOOOM GET ME SOME CHICKEN NUGGIES IM ON DAY 98 OF SEMEN RETENTION IM GONA BECOME SUPER SAIYAN IN TWO DAYS !!
dont get me wrong, porn is a nasty thing, it can be problematic because too much of anything is bad but you guys are fucking retards who think not touching your dick is going to magically fix all your problems, you think you will become more attractive to women just because you stopped masturbating

>>77091612
A drug addict no longer consuming drugs may not solve all of his problems, but it will solve some and lead to natural changes in mindset that will solve others.
People need to remember fapping is kind of like alcohol. Some can engage with it just fine, others are completely consumed by it.

>>77090699
>When you ejaculate too frequently
Stopped right there.
Until you're shooting dust there's no such thing.

>>77091174
>pedophile monks
qrd?

>>77091544
>Very odd people.
They're projecting, that's basically all it is.

>>77091646
Several years ago the Catholic Church came under media attack for its poor handling of a child abuse case and the media whipped the public into a frenzy over "muh catholic pedos" because of their jewish hatred of the church. Ironically actual third party surveys / investigations show that catholic priests have a much lower rate than protestant priests, rabbis, red cross workers, and public school teachers; basically every other group part of the study.
This anon is merely backdating the meme for whatever reason.

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Probably a schizo take here.

NoFap is controlled opposition created by Israeli intelligence to stop you from discovering the true problem:
>Porn
It's not jacking off your little wiener till it feels like it's going to fall off, it's watching porn. Porn is the problem.

You won't jack off multiple times a day without porn, it's just too difficult. I would go from 6-8 times per day to 1 time every 3 days after getting off of porn.

I think that if you genuinely quit porn but continued masturbating, your life would improve without the incredible difficulty of both quitting porn AND masturbation if you're a porn-addict.

>>77091622
i get that, but these retards believe that mossad is trying to put an end to this whole semen retention cult bullshit because they're scared of a man that does not watch porn or masturbate, like what the actual fuck are these guys smoking lmao cus i want some of that good shit too haha

>>77090699
The way nofap cultists have to exaggerate everything about the way people supposedly masturbate is always comical.

>>77091622
>People need to remember fapping is kind of like alcohol.
Delusional on an astronomical scale. Keep running away from your actual issues.

>>77091660
Most people watch some random video on the homepage of pornhub for 15 minutes every few days when they want to fap

Never forget when in 2023 missiles breached the iron dome and telaviv got bombed, all porn threads in /gif/ and other porn boards became inactive for hours, but dumbfuck up here wants to make think jews don't care if you masturbate and you're imagining things.

/pol/ has always been right about them.

>>77091332
Sexual satiety reduces androgen receptors sensitivity.

>>77091748
>Keep running away from your actual issues.
That's what you say to the alcoholics too lmao

>>77091765
Wait, so what is mossad or the jews are trying to accomplish by posting porn on boards dedicated to porn where people go to watch porn ?

>>77091815
Normalizing porn use / addiction, especially for the 4chan audience, given how downstream many aspects of modern politics seems to be from this place. I'm not saying politicians get their cues here, but maybe people who do have their ear do, or at least this place has an outsize effect on the zeitgeist. They can at least tweak the recommendation algorithms for other places; they have to keep a steady posting rate here.

>>77091765
yep and all racial ragebait threads stopped

>>77091991
Normalize porn use in boards dedicated to porn ? Its already normal to see porn on a porn website, so wtf are they trying to normalise ? Its like saying jews are selling shoes in a shoe shop. Well no shit lol

>>77090740
This is the most jewish, whiney bitch post I have read.
congratulations

>>77091599
>weak nigga
weak nigger

>>77090780
>one is a complete cuck
oh the irony

>>77091765
I 'member

>>77091480
>laughing
seething"
Where are the caps of kikes saying nofap is antisemitic?

>>77091765
>with your own hands take your own device, navigate to 4chan with own fingers and then to nsfw boards where porn is being posted because, well thats what nsfw boards are for, then with your own hand stroke your own little dick till you ejecalute
>fucking jews got me again ! they fucking made made masturbate to porn again ! fucking hitler was right about them !

>>77092671
masturbation is not run by the jews, porn is

>>77091544
>nofappers think anyone who doesnt nofap is a porn addict,
Most young people are, it's very easy to become one, and it doesn't even occur to them until they have problems, there's tons of evidence we see in nofap threads. I don't see you preaching moderation, just seething that, what, some people have longer streaks? I doubt it.
>Like you cant just jack off the shower every now and before you go to work. You either a nofapper or a jewish porn addict.
>And before the nofap incels scream this isnt the case
It isn't, you made that up.
"Every now and then in the show" and "every single day to porn" are very different.

>>77092677
>masturbation is not run by the jews
It almost is because of porn.

>>77091517
>I had a good friend spawn randomly in my life 3 years ago (anti-vaxx, christian, etc) but still i prefer to be alone
Gee, I wonder why it's not surprising that by rejecting science you also believe in this nofap superpowers BS.

>>77091452
Lol retard. Not letting your dicklet spurt isn't going to get you pussy or give you super powers.

Its crazy the amount of the hate SR and no fap gets.
The simple fact is, you are not going to make it if you are spilling your seed.
And you are not going to make it if you are looking at porn.

>>77092958
yeah totally, but the reason isn't some woo woo bullshit or broscience
it's simply that porn and wanking are a waste of time and shit habits that detract from progress
all of no fap has this weird gnostic-like bullshit around it that is disingenuous, probably because lots of retards need a higher purpose other than simply 'thing bad, don't do thing'

>>77092970
exactly, that's why some watered down version of christianity is built into the 12-step alcoholism program via "acknowledging a higher power" which helps embed it as a personality trait rather than just not doing something. this is the same reason why straight edge people are cringe

>>77092970
it's just as disingenuous to boil the whole thing down to a simple wasting of time. You can jerk off and finish in like 5 minutes, it's not just about that and you know it.

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>>77092958
>Its crazy the amount of the hate SR and no fap gets.
There is no hate. I personally don't care either way. The problem is that

>you raise your Prolactin, Serotonin and Cortisol, which are a killer for a man
This is clueless nonsense. This kind of shit has been researched for over 70 years and countless BRUTAL experiments have been done with guinea pigs, rats, different types of monkeys, changing the hormones, removing their testicles and reimplanting them at later stages, removing testicles DURING ejaculation (yes, really). All the relevant observations about hormonal development in males, changes that occur at various stages in life, before, during and after copulation, have been corroborated in humans with genetic dysfunctions that mirror the results from all these experiments. This is the kind of shit first-year students of endocrinology learn, it's extremely basic knowledge that cortisol is an adaptive steroid regulator, and any male NEEDS it to be a male. Basing a semen retention ideology on the idea that coritsol shouldn't be raised means it goes straight into the trash, because you don't know shit.

>you deplete vitamins and minerals
Fucking nonsense. If you have adequate intake of all the nutrients involved in spermatogenesis, the body knows perfectly well how to regulate it. Imagine significantly depleting vital nutrients through ejaculation in the wild, kek. Our ancestors wouldn't have survived for us to be here shitposting about it.

>you lose motivation and drive as sexual energy to procreate is the strongest in every organism
"sexual energy to procreate", sounds like hippie bullshit. There is only one form of energy, ATP.

>you get relaxed, unfocused and lazy
>you drop your Testosterone levels slightly
Yeah duh, this is the refractory period and only exists to inhibit further ejaculation. Other than that, it just passes and does nothing at all.

I hate no hate for the ideology, but at least base it on sensible ideas.

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>>77090699

Would you want to lose blood every day and force your body to use resources to make more?

Ofc not, and the same principle applies here, but to a greater extent as it takes more energy. Literally the energy used to make another life.

It's very telling and honestly pretty shocking how hard semen retention is shilled against.

>>77091766
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17268169/

Truth nuke for any goobers on here who NEED SOMETHING TO BE PROVEN BY LE SCIENCE before they even dare think about trying it out for themselves

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>>77093634
>for non-autistic people

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>>77093672
here's one about quitting porn

>>77093672
>>77093677
imagine actually, voluntarily, mentally castrating yourself by relying on AI to read research for you

yikes

>>77093715
sorry boomer, i don't care about pretentious writing
>Recently we showed that 24 h after copulation to satiety, there is a reduction in androgen receptor density (ARd) in the medial preoptic area (MPOA) and in the ventromedial hypothalamic nucleus (VMH), but not in the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BST).

>>77093825
Like I said, you are mentally castrating yourself by relying on AI. Take the effort to actually read this shit anon, try to understand the how and why behind what is written. Even try to understand the motivations of the writers, their research backgrounds, etc. These are important skills.

>medial preoptic area (MPOA)
So, the pituitary is a major hormone gland that regulates metabolism, tissue maintenance, sex hormones. Located just above the pituitary is the hypothalamus, which is the part of the brain that interacts with this gland, it's like the link between the nervous system and the endocrine system. The hypothalamus is very sexually dimorphic, meaning that its anatomy and function is very different between males and females. For instance, you can transplant female sex organs to a male, but they still can't ovulate. You can transplant female sex organs and a pituitary to a male, but they still won't be able to ovulate. Not until you also transplant a female hypothalamus are males able to ovulate (at least in species where these experiments were done). Even in the hypothalamus itself, the MPOA is like a checkerboard of different parts that are very sexually dimorphic. Both males and females use androgens as well as estrogens in this brain area for a variety of purposes. Males rely exclusively on estrogens in certain areas for masculine traits, females rely exclusively on androgens in certain area for feminine traits.

So, a reduction in androgen receptor density in the MPOA is about as meaningful as saying "one of the organs in my torso hurts" when seeing a doctor. Lungs? Stomach? Liver? Fuck knows what it means.

>ventromedial hypothalamic nucleus (VMH)
This is a metabolic regulator. It signals to terminate sexual activity in response to orgasm in men/women, it has no known significant effect on HPG axis signalling in humans. So yes, successful copulation prompts the brain to send the same type of signals you feel after a full meal.

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>>77090699
>dont bust for literally 24 hours
>lucid dreams return, dreams so good i am phazed at waking up often
>shizophrenic hyper realistic lucid dreams return immediatly as well
Its not all nightmares but when they occur they take me a while to get a hold of myself. Anybody else here in touch with something they dont understand

>>77093825
>>77093905
So, you could have genuinely learned something about how this shit works, if you'd taken the effort to read. If you don't understand something, you read something more basic to learn how it works before continuing.

Instead, you use AI to summarize something you don't understand, and you gain no insight about any of this, because you care more about "being right" than actually learning basic shit about endocrinology that's widely available online.

What tangible benefit do you possibly get from this?

>>77093916
Yes, I see the same pattern. Dreams are more vivid and I tend to remember them better. I also tend to turn more in my sleep which can lower the quality due to poor posture, unfortunately.

>>77093672
>you must be autistic to read a study.
Truly, gen z is doomed.

>>77093905
>>77093921
again, i FULL STOP at pretentious language, if you want people to read your shit, make it readable
this fucking idea that we have to sit through shit writing just because you refuse to learn how to make it engaging is a dead meme

learn to write shit people actually want to read and stop blaming readers for not wanting to read your drivel

>>77093921
absolute unc crashout
dont you have your fat ugly wife to post on /gif/ or something lolz

>>77093959
boomers need to die out already
>back in my day we worked 40 hours a week, quit complaining
>back in my day we read boring ass books and shit
genz (me) is simply tired of pretending that a pile of shit isn't a pile of shit just because an older person said it's not

no, Shakespeare isn't good and our generation will be glad to memoryhole ALL of his works

>>77093942
>pretentious language
This is completely your projection.

The point of academic writing is that you want to be clear and to the point. You have something to say, you want your reader to ONLY be focused on the content of your text. You DON'T want them to be focused on the content of your own goals, emotions, personal quirks. You want that in 10 years, 100 years, 1000 years, someone can pick up the text and extract the observations you've made.

If you are genuinely curious about a subject, you want to share any observations and insights clearly with others, and you want to be able to learn about other people's ideas as clearly as possible.

Anyone is free to interpret the text however they want, and they are able to because you don't colour the text with your own intentions and emotions.

As a writer, you barely even need to learn how to do this anyway, because eventually you get so tired of arguing about irrelevant bullshit, that you end up writing in this style anyhow, because that's the only way to really stick to the point: provide a clear and unambiguous description. If you are curious about a topic, this way of writing IS the most engaging, because you yourself want to learn about the topic, not the contents of the writer's emotions.

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>>77093926
Yo the sleep wrestling is real. I wake up weeeell rested with less hours but fuck me i do throw hands with the bed sheets. Did it get better in terms of all in all life quality when you had a gf ?

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>>77090699
Nofap to self improvement is like giving 50c to a homeless and counting it as your good deed for the day.
I.e. it's almost meaningless and you do it because it's the easiest thing to do and requires basically no self sacrifice.

>>77093983
>As a writer, you barely even need to learn how to do this anyway
this is the excuse that people who are bad at writing use to justify their refusal to learn how to be engaging in their writing

you absolutely need to learn what it takes to make your writing engaging, learn where readers fall off, and make adjustments
people doing YouTube don't even question it
you don't blame the fucking viewers for falling off and say they just have a "low attention span"
you adjust
you rewrite
you redo
you perfect

this shits an art form, you can't just use some sort of trick to be good at writing, you have to do it thousands and thousands of times
if all you do is technical writing and you don't care about it's readability, don't be surprised when people can't or don't care to read it

>>77091283
That which can be claimed without evidence, can be disregarded without evidence

>>77092663
>>77090782
you samefagged just to say nothing. take your L and eat shit

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>>77090699
>you drop your Testosterone levels slightly

Even worse, your brain stops being responsive to testosterone because the androgen receptor density drops

What good is testosterone mr anderson if you don't have any receptors

>>77094080
>amygdala showing a massive drop

no wonder all you gooners are afraid of ordering food on the phone

>>77091509
>how jewish
>just like nofap
You're a moron, jews want you jacking off. That's why they produce all of the porn.

>>77090699
It's probably the best to practice it until you find a gf and then only have sex with her. If you don't find one you start getting these insights about life and its nature and it slowly makes you schizophrenic.

>>77091765
This. Also remember one of the main things they do in their terrorization of a population is to take over tv stations and blast hard core porn.

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>>77094305
While that is fact there is one consideration to make and im not making excuses here im saying due to this variable its far too easy to fall into this trap eithout even noticing as such. Id say a huge problem is the fact that good faith chicks are no longer in high enough quantities to have the learning curve be easy enough to switch focus upon realization of what kinda habit that is. Like going hunting but theres 200 other dudes in your spot and one deer. Idk i might be wrong ive been out the loop out of the game for too long, what do you thinj

>>77094276
right.
And for those of you who noticed that, they want you being a nofap incel instead actually fixing your shitty life problems.

>>77091762
lol i dont believe anyone does this

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i'm just about one month into nofap noporn no nothing, gonna keep it going into lent
also not gonna visit 4chins or any social media once
witness me brothers

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I can't focus if i haven't cum in 2-3 days, all i think about is fucking. Could maybe help if you are low T stinky neet with nothing important to do tho.

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>>77094854
Nofap is easier is you have a fulfilling life because your attention is preoccupied with your job, relationships, family, hobbies

You're telling on yourself there fella

>>77090699
So the men historically having the most sex would have been in far worse shape than the men historically having the least sex? This makes sense to you why?

1 out of every 200 men alive today is a direct male-line descendant from Genghis Khan, which means he was ejaculating in women all the time. He was in such bad shape and so unmotivated that he completely dominated all of what is now China, Russia, Northern India, and the Middle East? That makes sense, if you're a total retard.

>>77094913
If he retained he would have conquered the whole world

>>77090699
You can literally see the sleeves of his latex fat suit, you absolute gorilla retard.

>>77094897
Sex Is not even remotely the same process as masturbation

>>77094913
You're stupid as fuck. No wonder you're a porn addict.

>>77094276
>You're a moron, jews want you jacking off. That's why they produce all of the porn.
you semen retainers need to step your game up because youre losing this battle against the jews very bad, they're still ruling the world meanwhile your little ridicilous semen retention boy scout club is getting ridiculed on 4chan

>>77094913
>jerking off to chinese cartoons is the same as impregnating tens of thousands of females

i won't be responding further than this, you are simply too retarded.

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>>77094913
In what ways are you like Genghis Khan

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>why am I always tired
>maybe I need to increase caffeine to 600 mg and take 3 zyns per day
>does anyone know a good moda source i just gooned for 3 hours and have no energy or motivation
>why is my sleep so shit better have a goon sesh

>>77090699
>you deplete vitamins and minerals
just slurp it up to not lose nutrients and keep your vrill