this is derek lunsford, the BEST bodybuilder in the world right now confirmed by the IFBP, say something nice about him
>>77096510Is that Douchette?
>>77096510He wouldn't get top 5 at the olympia 25 years ago
>>77096560Not even 8 years agoPeople blame the waist, synthol and other site ehancements, insulin, training methods, diet, manletism, excess tan.... But i also think it's major lighting skill issueThe lighting during jays stomp image was phenomenal, recent olympias all look like they've been filmed on an Oppo by some indian in his cousins weddingAnd the absurd screens with all the visual pollution on it, just make it a black screen or dark blue curtains bro
>>77096560They used to mark these kinds of physiques down so much. Markus Ruhl was considered a joke because he traded so much definition and aesthetics for size. Then everyone started coming in with Palumboism, so they just made that the standard
>>77096565>>77096568You guys are both somewhat right, but I also think it's something to do with the fact that social media get the bodybuilders to think their prep is going great, as well as the new talent pool shifting towards classic physique
>>77096510Literally deserved last place and to have his pro card revoked
>>77096510>mr.olympia>not a single striation on his entire bodybodybuilding is so fucking cooked
>>77096560>>77096565>>77096568>>77096653*objectively mogs your "goat"*
>>77096510lumpsford
>>77096510this guy looks like if doucette and lavrone had offspring together
>>77096510Synthol should just mean a disqualification. Look at this shit, it’s awful. Why is he so smooth? Compare this to Dorian
I only respect CBum and Ramon Dino.
>>77096510>IFBPWhat the fuck is that?
>>77096662Dorian is the most overrated bodybuilder in history. Arnold is probably next. Considering his pathetic back thickness and legs thinner than a bikini models, it makes me wonder how many Jew dicks he sucked to win Mr. Olympia 6 times. That nigga should have lost to Kevin Levron, he should have lost to Flex Wheeler, and of course, he should have lost to Nasser.
>>77096983why's Dorian overrated?
>>77096568>Markus Ruhl was considered a joke because he traded so much definition and aesthetics for sizeno he just had wrong parents
>>77096987NTA but, I like Dorian. I think his training methods are the most correct and respect what he was able to do and how hard he pushed. However, I thought his mid section got way too big. IMO Lee Haney was the last truly aesthetic Mr. O, then post Dorian the size, including mid section, went out of control.
holy mogpeople cant accept that derek is winning because he really is good
>>77096510that's a piece of fried chicken you photoshopped a head onto
>>77098049Shawn Rhodens won with a fairly aesthetic look, perfect proportions aside from his upper arms, razor sharp condition that probably killed him
>>77098810I just want to know how Dorian kept his hair that big despite being that low BF and that shredded. Finasteride didn't exist until the late 90's and IDK when topical Minoxidil was commonplace.
>>77096565I'll fight him for any money he's on steroids shouldn't matter he's a straight up queer drop discord
>>77098810Left is an incel right has chad gaze
>>77096662>no back definition>no striationsGetthefuckouttahe'
>>77096662>>77098982To hammer the point home, Ronnie had better definition in 98 with front facing flashes
>>77098988Shit, forgot the pic
>>77096510Extremely disgusting.
>>77098810One of these guys looks like a coping manlet. The other looks like a Greek statue.
>>77098810>go from 1g/week to 2g per week>double the HGH dose>inject synthol>get biggerNot really a mystery. Looks at those strange bulges on Derek's lats. Oil injection sites.Though your pic of Yates is the 1992 Yates. He got much bigger when he upped the dose and trained harder. And then he got a bicep injury which forever made is front doubles extremely weak. Yates in 92 still looks much more aesthetically pleasing that Derek. Let's face it, the synthol injections in the lats just look weird. The oversized abductors make the legs look disgusting. The X-frame pose is also anti-aesthetic because it makes the legs look even more tumorous. The old rule was that your calves needed to be as wide as the thighs. Steve Reeves himself recommended that one tries to make sure the calves, neck, and arms have the same measurements for the purpose of aesthetics as well. Derek seems to have been slacking with those calves. What are those? 14" calves below 30" legs with 22" arms and a 14" neck? What an embarrassment. If he has 22" arms he should be shooting for at least 20" calves and a 20" neck. And all these guys are skipping their necks too. Just doesn't look right at all. Bodybuilding is dead. Has been so since 1993. Size at all cost destroying both the appeal of the "sport" and the health of the contestants. >>77098982Can't have striations when you're injecting oil. And then they do that weird lean back thing which gives bad angles in an attempt to look as wide as possible in the shoulders.
>>77098996The coping manlet? That would be yates (5'9"), derek is the actual greek statue, that shape is godly, pure natural talent, and you can see the confidence in his face
>>77099035I agree that Ronnie and Phil are far superior to today's bodybuilders, but stop glazing Dorian. Dorian had a thick waist, a pitifully flat back, and embarrassing legs. Needless to say, his biceps had become a glaring flaw ever since he injured them. He can't even make the top 10 when he competes in open competitions these days. He should probably compete in the Classic Physique division.
Seriously, why is Dorian so overrated? He was already getting mogged by Ronnie back in 1997.
>>77096510He looks like shit even by modern bodybuilding standards.
>>77099070Then why does he keep winning? You're just a hater
>>77098856It's genetic.
>>77099080Because modern bodybuilding is dead.
>>77099113I accept your concession
>>77099080probably got the tightest hole
>>77099035>Looks at those strange bulges on Derek's lats. Oil injection sites.thats the serratus you dumb faggot
>>77099116You can accept my cock with your ass.
>>77096842There's rumours he uses PMMA like Rich Piana.
*blocks your path*
>>77099083>the manlet in the background
>>77096662Lunsford is legitimately like 5'2, he's shorter than Shawn Ray. Him next to prime Yates would look comical
>>77100059This nigga has nothing but height, he sucks, shouldn't have won even once, at least Derek and hadi have a freak factor
>>77096662>mogsNo. Look how much water Derek is holding in his lower back and then look at Yates. If they weren’t next to each other on stage, you’d be blown away by Derek’s relative lack of conditioning. Insulin and gh makes them look this way.
>>77102086Next to each other Derek would look 8 weeks out, Dorian had a freak factor like nobody else, he even made Kevin Levrone look unconditioned. His muscles were like genuine rocks
>>77099124That's not the Serratus. The Serratus anterior is on the ribcage close to the pecs. I'm talking about the obvious swelling from oil injection
>>77099055Dorian has better legs than any modern competitor due to the fact that he didn't overdevelop the adductors. All the modern guys have shit legs because of this. Quad and Hamstring size peaked in the 80's. Everything that comes after is entirely adductor and glutes which just looks like shit. Hell, even Tom Platz's legs look like shit since deep squating overdevelops the adductors.Physiques have generally been getting worse as size everywhere at all costs became the name of the game. Dorian in '92 is probably the last time anyone who ever was a Mr. Olympia was anything close to aesthetic. Even with a wider waist Yates is still much closer to any aesthetic ideals than himself by '94 and any body builder after. '92 is peak aesthetics for Yates. '92 is the last time anyone paid attention to aesthetics. Balancing proportions is an art that was tossed out entirely. This is why modern bodybuilding is shit. Going for a narrow waist misses the point as well as it doesn't matter if you have a narrow waist when you have disgusting tumor thighs and underdeveloped calves. Chicken drumsticks are a terrible goal physique. Every bodybuilder after 1992 with few exceptions like Shawn Ray are absolutely terrible bodybuilders because they abandoned balanced proportions for size. >RonnieLooked way better in '91 before he bloated up in size. Started out as a good bodybuilder then turned out to be one or the worst as he abandoned anything resembling aesthetics entirely for size. >PhilBig gigantic gut. When pictures are picked to hide it, it's not so bad. But he still has the gut. Also has the problem of abandoning anything resembling aesthetics for size. >g-glazing DorianYou're a retard and this phrase proves it.
>>77102192Everyone looks soft next to Dorian, and after Phil Heath the competitors started resembling Michelin Man with marshmallow inflated balloon muscles. The worst is now with Derek Lunsford, not only is he bloated but he also has no definition to speak of compared to Phil. It's only getting worse. The guy is Mr Olympia without arm separation, it's honestly retarded.
>>77102225Pretty much every winner post-Ronnie/Jay has been lackluster, even Phil imo. The physiques in the Open division have just continued to go downhill since the late 2000s, and those were largely a downgrade from the 80s and 90s, too. In terms of actual physique quality, Flex Lewis has more claim to being the true Mr. Olympia than any of the Open clowns who’ve won it over the past decade and a half. Add to that the many guys who always brought a good look to the stage and were nevertheless overlooked while bubble gut monsters somehow got top placings. It’s pathetic.
>>77102322True. I think the moment supplement companies and protein companies started getting mainstream, bodybuilding lost its charm. I honestly don't think normies can differentiate between a quality and a michelin man physique, they just see size and whatever their brain registers in the first 2 seconds. After that there is no deeper sense of beauty or aesthetics.
>>77096565>>77096510>>77096662jesus his arms really do fucking suck don't they bros
>>77096510He is sort of cute haha
>>77102322>even Phil imophil mocks jay 100%>Flex Lewis has more claim to being the true Mr. Olympia than any of the Open clowns who’ve won it over the past decade and a halfHe would get mogged on stage, all the ""uncrowned mr olympia"" talks stop when you see them on stage next to the actual mr olympia
>>77102722>deeper sense of beauty or aestheticsits not a fucking beauty contest, despite what all the shovelfaced idiots keep saying, thats why "aesthetic physiques" dont win because the judges aren't homos deciding who would they like to rail them the most, theyre looking for the best muscle development and conditioning, not caring how """pretty""" it is, its bodyBUILDING not bodydecoratingthe fact that a twink like frank zane was ever mr.o is the real travesty
>>77102722Yes, people talk out “enshittificafion” all the time these days when it comes to financiers ruining things, but they overlook the inevitable enshittificafion by normies as something gets popular.>>77103424>phil mocks jayAt least Jay, despite having a blocky physique and thick waist, never came in smooth with a bubble gut, something philsulin could not manage,>He would get mogged on stageSmaller guys have won before or at least been competitive, and without favoritism. See Zane, Dickerson, Bannout, Ray, Gaspari, Dexter, Darrem, etc. Flex had better conditioning than all the open guys during his era.>>77103473You don’t get it. They are supposed to be judged not just on mass but on conditioning, symmetry, muscularity, and proportion as well. The physique is supposed to flow from classical ideals, and can be either on the more slender side or the Herculean. It’s not gay, it’s a sense of aesthetics. That judges have forgotten or ignored this in favor of rewarding bloated, smooth, preggo hogs like derek is the real travesty.
>>77103825>but on conditioningthat gets judged alright, hadi is not any less conditioned than dorian>symmetryonly that faggot dorian won with a torn bicep>muscularitysynonym for mass, and that gets judged obviously>proportion gay, two guys with the exact same physique, except one has bigger quads, youre gonna give it to the guy with smaller quads because "proportions"? Fucking stupid, not a beauty contest>Dickerson, BannoutThese guys mogged everyone in their respective years and zane should have never won
>>77104031>HadiPlease. Gtfo of here with that oil-in-delts-and-tris Persian. Sorry, no way he beats Dorian on conditioning, for that alone. Guy doesn’t even have definition in his triceps that I have as a natural.>dorian won with a torn bicepIt’s about the total package. He was still better than anyone else that day, and you can win by such a large margin on the other factors it can overcome an injury, which btw was not that bad-looking. Your argument would’ve been better if you’d used 1997 Dorian.>synonym for massNo, it’s not. You don’t know what you’re talking about. I’ve seen guys with massive backs lose to smaller guys who had better overall back development.>not a beauty contestIt kinda is. It’s a contest of aesthetics based on a Greco-Roman ideal. Sorry, Hadi and his big ugly legs aren’t beating peak Shawn Ray or Levrone.>zane should have never wonProof you don’t know shit about bodybuilding. Zane was the best on that stage all three years; again, it’s not just about the lineup callouts. Zane’s best poses were better than everyone else’s best poses, and he didn’t sacrifice too much to anyone else. Whether that comes down to genetics or skill is always the debate. Of course, you can look at 1982 to see when he got beaten fair and square by someone who was better that day.
>>77104370>It kinda is. It’s a contest of aesthetics based on a Greco-Roman ideal. Sorry, Hadi and his big ugly legs aren’t beating peak Shawn Ray or Levrone.it literally isnt thats why dorian beat flex and why ronnie beat everyone, the reality is staring you in the face and you dont like it, go jack off to gay porn and leave the sport alone
>>77096510I'd destroy him in 15sec https://discord.gg/pNthNvtVC
>>77105770you’re confusing the spirit of the sport with the breakdown in standards that’s been occurring since the 2000s. Also, Dorian didn’t win just because he was the biggest or freakiest, you’d have to be stupid to believe that.>go jack off to gay pornAh, the perennial cop out of the raging poster lol.
